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Òåìà: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
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Öåëü ýòîãî òîïèêà îòâåòèòü íà íàèáîëåå ÷àñòî ñïðàøèâàåìû âîïðîñû î ëó÷øèõ ïåäàëÿõ íà ðûíêå. Ðàññìàòðèâàþòñÿ òîëüêî top of the line (ëó÷øèå èç âûïóñêàåìûõ ïåäàëåé) ìîäåëè îò íàèáîëåå èçâåñòíûõ ôèðì. Ïåäàëè ïðåäñòàâëåíû äëÿ îáîçðåíèÿ: Axis AL-2 Longboard Double Pedal Yamaha DFP-9310 Double Pedal Pearl P-2002C PowerShifter Eliminator Double Pedal Tama Iron Cobra Twin Pedal  êàæäîé êàòåãîðèè ïðèñóæäàþòñÿ áàëëû ñîîòâåòñòâåííî îöåíêå, â êîíöå âûäàíà ñðåäíÿÿ îöåíêà êàæäîé ïåäàëè. (Êàæäûé äîëæåí ñäåëàòü ñâîè âûâîäû, â çàâèñèìîñòè îò ñâîèõ íóæä, ïîñêîëüêó âñ¸ âûñêàçàííîå íèæå - ëèøü óñðåäíåííûå äàííûå, ñäåëàííûå ïóòåì ñðàâíåíèÿ ïîëîæèòåëüíûõ èëè íåãàòèâíûõ âûñêàçûâàíèÿõ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé). Íà÷íåì: Pearl Eliminator – ñàìàÿ íåäîðîãàÿ ($249-$529) – 5 áàëëîâ Yamaha 9310 – óìåðåííàÿ ($269 -$550) – 4 áàëëà Iron Cobra – ñðåäíÿÿ ($299-$489) – 3 áàëëà DW 9002 – âûøå ñðåäíåé ($479-$799) – 2 áàëëà Axis – î÷åíü äîðîãàÿ. ($519-$739) – 1 áàëë (Ïåðâàÿ öåíà – ìèíèìàëüíàÿ ñóììà, çà êîòîðóþ ïåäàëü ìîæíî êóïèòü. ( ÑØÀ. Íå èìååòñÿ ââèäó Ebay, íà íîâûå ìîäåëè òàì öåíà íå îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò ñðåäíåé) Âòîðàÿ – öåíà, ïðåäëîæåííàÿ èçãîòîâèòåëåì (list price).) Ãàðàíòèÿ: DW 9002 – ëó÷øàÿ, 5 ëåò, íåîãðàíè÷åííàÿ – “5” Pearl Eliminator – 3 ãîäà – “4” Axis – 2 ãîäà – “2” Yamaha 9310 – 2 ãîäà – “2” Iron Cobra – 1 ãîä – “1” Âîçìîæíîñòü èñïîëüçîâàòü ëåâóþ ïåäàëü êàê îòäåëüíóþ, ïîëíîöåííóþ ïåäàëü. Axis – äà – “5” Yamaha 9310 – äà – “5” Iron Cobra – íåò – “1” DW 9002 – íåò – “1” Pearl Eliminator – íåò – “1” ×åõîë, èä¸ò ëè áåñïëàòíî ñ ïåäàëüþ: DW 9002 – æåñòêèé, öåíîé $70 – “5” Iron Cobra – æåñòêèé – “5” Pearl Eliminator – õîðîøèé, ìÿãêèé – “4” Yamaha 9310 – íèæå ñðåäíåãî êà÷åñòâà, ïåäàëü íàäî ðàçáèðàòü – “2” Axis – íå èìååò – “1” Âîçìîæíîñòè íàñòðîåê: Pearl Eliminator – 4 interchangeable cams, íåîãðàíè÷åííàÿ íàñòðîéêà – “5” DW 9002 – íåîãðàíè÷åííàÿ íàñòðîéêà – “4” Yamaha 9310 – íåîãðàíè÷åííàÿ íàñòðîéêà – “4” Axis – íåîãðàíè÷åííàÿ íàñòðîéêà – “4” Iron Cobra – îãðàíè÷åííàÿ íàñòðîéêà – “2” Àêêñåññóàðû â êîìïëåêòå: Pearl Eliminator – 4 interchangeable cams – “5” Yamaha 9310 –interchangeable straps, êëþ÷ – “3” Iron Cobra – êëþ÷ – “2” DW 9002 – êëþ÷è – “1” Axis – íå èìååò – “1” Êà÷åñòâî è äîëãîâå÷íîñòü: DW 9002 – ñàìîå ëó÷øåå êà÷åñòâî, ëó÷øèå ïîäøèïíèêè, äîëãîâå÷íà – “5” Iron Cobra – îòëè÷íîå êà÷åñòâî âñåõ äåòàëåé – “4” Axis – õîðîøèå ìàòåðèàëû ïëàòôîðìû, íî ïðóæèíû è ìåëêèå äåòàëè âûõîäÿò èç ñòðîÿ èíîãäà ÷åðåç 2-3 íåäåëè, îòëè÷íîå ñîåäèíåíèå ïåäàëè ñ ïÿòêîé – “4” Yamaha 9310 – îòëè÷íîå êà÷åñòâî âñåõ äåòàëåé – “4” Pearl Eliminator – î÷åíü õîðîøåå êà÷åñòâî – “4” Ïëþñû, ïðèñóùèå êîíêðåòíî ðàññìàòðèâàåìûì ìîäåëÿì: Axis: 1. Ëó÷øàÿ ïåäàëü äëÿ áîëüøîãî ðàçìåðà íîãè (longboard). – “1” 2. Ñàìàÿ áûñòðàÿ. – “1” Iron Cobra: 1. Î÷åíü êðåïêàÿ êîíñòðóêöèÿ. – “1” 2. Î÷åíü ìîùíàÿ. Îñîáåííî õîðîøà äëÿ metal/punk//rock/black/heavy/death ãäå öåíèòñÿ ìîùíîñòü. – “1” 3. Ñàìàÿ ïîïóëÿðíàÿ. – “1” (Ñòàòèñòèêà òàêîâà: 158 îòçûâîâ îò âëàäåëüöåâ Cobra íà îäíîì èç ñàéòîâ, ãäå ÷àñòü ýòîé èíôîðìàöèè ïî÷åðïíóòà, è òàêæå: Pearl – 66 îòçûâîâ, DW9002 – 66 îòçûâîâ, Yamaha 9310 – 16 îòçûâîâ, Axis longboard – 17 îòçûâîâ. Pearl Eliminator ïëþñû: 1. 4 ñìåííûõ cams. – “1” 2. Ðåçèíîâûå âñòàâêè â ïëàòôîðìó, êîòîðûå âñòàâëÿþòñÿ â îòâåðñòèÿ â ïîñëåäíåé (êîëè÷åñòâî ïî æåëàíèþ), òàêèì îáðàçîì ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ ñòåïåíü ñöåïëåíèÿ íîãè ñ ïëàòôîðìîé. – “1” 3. Ïëàòôîðìà äâèãàåòñÿ âïåð¸ä è íàçàä, ïîçâîëÿþùàÿ ðåãóëèðîâàòü ñèëó è velocity óäàðà. – “1” Yamaha 9310: 1. Êðåïëåíèå, ñîåäèíÿþùåå ïåäàëü ñ áàðàáàíîì ïîçâîëÿåò îïåðèðîâàòü îäíîé ðóêîé. (Íåçàìåíèìî äëÿ Rick Allen, áàðàáàùèêà Def Leppard  ) – “1”2. Ïîçâîëÿåò ëåãêî êîíòðîëèðîâàòü ãðîìêîñòü, òî åñòü ýòî - äèíàìè÷íàÿ ïåäàëü, ïîçâîëÿþùàÿ èãðàòü ðàçíóþ ìóçûêó (ñ ðàçíîé ãðîìêîñòüþ). – “1” DW9002: 1. Âîçìîæíîñòü ìåíÿòü âûñîòó ïÿòêè ïåäàëè. – “1” 2. Áåçóïðå÷íîå êà÷åñòâî. Ëó÷øåå â êàòåãîðèè. – :1” Ìèíóñû ðàññìàòðèâàåìûõ ìîäåëåé: (Áàëëû âû÷èòàþòñÿ). Axis: 1. Ñàìàÿ ñëàáàÿ ïåäàëü ïî ìîùíîñòè óäàðà. “-1” (Ìèíóñ îäèí) 2. Íå ñàìàÿ íàä¸æíàÿ. “-1”(Ìèíóñ îäèí) 3. Íåîïðàâäàííî äîðîãàÿ. “-1”(Ìèíóñ îäèí) Iron Cobra: 1. Íå ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ âûñîòà ïëàòôîðìû. “-1”(Ìèíóñ îäèí) DW9002: 1. Íåò îñîáûõ ìèíóñîâ. “0”(Ìèíóñ îäèí) Yamaha 9310: 1. Ëåâàÿ ïåäàëü èíîãäà óäàðÿåò ïëàòôîðìó (ñêîðåå áîëò íà íåé) è òðåáóåòñÿ ðåãóëèðîâàòü âûñîòó (áëàãî ýòà ôóíêöèÿ åñòü) “-1”(Ìèíóñ îäèí) Pearl Eliminator: 1. Íåêîòîðûì òðóäíî ïðèâûêíóòü ê ýòîé ïåäàëè “-1”(Ìèíóñ îäèí) Èòàê, ðåçóëüòàòû òàêîâû íà ñåãîäíÿøíèé ìîìåíò: 1. Pearl Eliminator – 30 áàëëîâ. 2. Yamaha 9310 – 25 áàëëîâ 3. DW 9002 – 23 áàëëà 4. Iron Cobra – 21 áàëë 5. Axis – 17 áàëëîâ Âîò òàêèå íåîáû÷íûå ðåçóëüòàòû. Êîìó åñòü ÷òî äîáàâèòü (èëè ïîïðàâèòü, òîëüêî áóäüòå îñòîðîæíûì, è ïåðåä òåì êàê çàãàæèâàòü òîïèê äîáàâëåíèÿ òèïà “à âñ¸ ýòî åðóíäà, ó ìåíÿ ïåäàëü òàêàÿ-òî, è îíà ñàìàÿ ëó÷øàÿ” èìåéòå ââèäó, ÷òî ïåðåä òåì, êàê ñäåëàòü ýòîò òîïèê, ÿ èññëåäîâàë îêîëî 400 îòçûâîâ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé â Àìåðèêå, è òàêæå äðóãèå ðåñóðñû). P.S. Âñ¸ ýòî îñíîâûâàåòñÿ íà èññëåäîâàíèè àìåðèêàíñêèõ ôîðóìîâ è ñàéòîâ, è ÿ ÷òî òî ìîã ïðîïóñòèòü è îøèáèòüñÿ â ÷åì òî. Âñå ïîçèòèâíûå èçìåíåíèÿ èëè èñïðàâëåíÿ îøèáîê (åñëè åñòü êàêèå) î÷åíü ïðèâåòñòâóþòñÿ â íàäåæäå âûÿñíèòü âñå âîïðîñû î ïåäàëÿõ, êîòîðûå âûçûâàþò íàèáîëüøèé èíòåðåñ è íàêîíåö-òî çàêðûòü ýòó òåìó, ïîìåñòèâ å¸ â FAQ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
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èçâèíè êîíåøíî, íî ýòî ãàâíî research... ãäå èñòî÷íîê? îò êóäà èíôà? â Ïåðëå ìîæíî òîæå ðåãóëèðîâàòü "âûñîòó ïÿòêè ïåäàëè"; ÷åõîë ê Ïåðëó èä¸ò òâ¸ðäûé ïëàñòèê à íà í¸ì íàòÿíóò áðåçåíò - î÷åíü ïðî÷íûé, äåðæèò ôîðìó è ëýãêèé... à ê Êîáðå äà¸íñÿ öàðàïàþ÷èéñÿ ãðîá (ïî òÿæåñòè). òåìó íå â ôàê à íà ôèã! è ýòî ÿ òîëüêî ïðî ñâîþ ïåäàëü ãîâîðþ. òû íå îáèæàéñÿ, ÿ ïîíèìàþ ÷òî õîòåë ñäåëàòü êàê ëóòüøå.. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
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íó áëèí...Ìèøà...ñêàçàëè æ...ìîã äîïóñòèòü îøèáêè ..ïðîñòî ãîâîðè ÷òî íå òàê...ñàì òî ñìîã áû? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
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Lenkoff, ÷òî ñìîã? ïåðåâåñòè ïîñò ñ Àíãëèéñêîãî íà Ðóññêèé? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
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íå ãîíè, î÷åíü ïîçíîâàòåëüíî, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå äëÿ ìåíÿ, ÿ âîò ðàíüøå ϸðë âñåðü¸ç íå ðàññìàòðèâàë, èíåðåñíû áûëè öîáðà è ÄÂ, íî òåïåðü çàäóìàþñü åñëè áóäó âûáèðàòü êàðäàí |
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ß òåáå êàê ðóññêèé ðóññêîìó ñêàæó: Ìîæåøü ñäåëàòü ëó÷øå, ñäåëàé. Íå ìîæåøü? Òàê ìîæåò è íå íàäî ïèñüêàìè-òî ìåðÿòüñÿ! ß âîí íå óìåþ íè÷åãî êðîìå Øèçãàðû èãðàòü, òàê ÿ è íå âû¸ïûâàþñÿ. ׸ êðèòèêîâàòü? Ïîìîãàòü äðóã-äðóãó íàäî! Îøèáñÿ îí? Îáúÿñíè, ïîäñêàæè! Òå ïî âûåæûâàòüñÿ îõîòà. Åçæàé â Èçðàèëü íà ÏÌÆ è èäè â àðìèþ, òàì òåáå íàéäåòñÿ íà êîãî ïîâû¸æèâàòüñÿ. P.S. Íà ñàéòå Ïåðëà, êñòàòè íåò íè÷åî îá ðåãóëèðîâêå âûñîòû ïÿòêè. |
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Misha, òû ñëþíÿìè íå áðþçæè êàê îáû÷íî, à ðåàëüíî ïîñìîòðè íà ôàêòû, åñëè åñòü îøèáêà ïðî Pearl, ïðèáàâèì îäèí áàëë, íåò ïðîáëåì. Èñòî÷íèê, äëÿ òåõ, êòî áåãëî ïî àíãëèéñêè ÷èòàåò, ìîæíî íàéòè íà (îñíîâíîé): http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ (íàáåðè ïðîäóêò â search, è ïî÷èòàé reviews) Äðóãèå ðåñóðñû: http://pearldrummersforum.com/ http://www.tigerbill.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi ×èòàéòå. P.S. Misha, äîñòà¸ò èíîãäà òâîé þíîøåñêèé ìàêñèìàëèçì. À? Øîêèðîâàòü òóò ïîâåäåíèåì è èñêëþ÷èòåëüíîñòüþ íèêîãî âðîäå íå íàäî. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
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Åðêåð!×å òàì ìîé ïåðâûé ïîñò ïðî ÄÂ9002...íå ðàçáåðàåöî âïðàâäó ÷òîëå? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
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Òèãðàí...÷óòîê àøèïà÷êà...ðàçáèðàåöî áåñ ïåçäû | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
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Lenkoff, ðå÷ü, åñëè òû çàìåòèøü èä¸ò î DW 9002 (9000) ìîäåëè, íå î 5000 (5002) òî åñòü òóò ðàññìàòðèâàþòñÿ ëó÷øèå ìîäåëè îò ïåðå÷èñëåííûõ ôèðì. Ìîæíî ñäåëàòü òîïèê î ñðåäíèõ è íåäîðîãèõ ìîäåëÿõ â òîì æå äóõå, åñëè ýòî ëþäè íàéäóò ïîëåçíûì. Ýòî è åñòü öåëü - èçáàâèòüñÿ îò âîïðîñîâ íîâè÷êîâ, ñàìîìó ðàçîáðàòüñÿ â âîïðîñàõ (Áàáóøêà ïðàâèëüíî çàìåòèë ÷òî Ïåðë - ñîîòíîøåíèå öåíû, êà÷åñòâà, íàñòðîåê è óíèêàëüíûõ ôóíêöèé, è ÷åõîë, êîòîðûé íå óïîìèíàåòñÿ íà ñàéòàõ, êîòîðûå åãî ïðîäàþò, òàê ÷òî, ýòî îòêðûòèå). Ïðè÷èíà, ïî êîòîðîé ÿ ÷èòàë âñå ýòî îòçûâû, òà, ÷òî ÿ äóìàë î ñìåíå ìîåãî êàðäàíà 9310 íà DW 9002, íå áåññìûñëåííàÿ ïåðåáðàíêà ñ ïóáåòàðíûì Misheé. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:28 |
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>> Yamaha 9310: >> 1. Ëåâàÿ ïåäàëü èíîãäà óäàðÿåò ïëàòôîðìó (ñêîðåå áîëò íà íåé) è òðåáóåòñÿ ðåãóëèðîâàòü âûñîòó (áëàãî ýòà ôóíêöèÿ åñòü) “-1”(Ìèíóñ îäèí) òàêàÿ æå ïðîáëåìà åñòü è ó ïðàâîé ïåäàëè. êðîìå òîãî, åñëè ïåðåáîùèòü ñ íàñòðîéêîé, òî ïðè îáðàòíîì äâèæåíèè êîëîòóøêè ñàìà ïåäàëü ìîæåò óäàðÿòüñÿ îá îñü, âûçûâàÿ ïðè ýòîì ëÿçã è íåïðèÿòíûå îùóùåíèÿ â íîãå. íåïðèÿòíûå îùóùåíèÿ âûðàæàþòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî êîãäà èãðàåøü áûñòðî ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî ïåäàëü èäåò ââåðõ, à íîãà óæå äàâèò â íèç è ïîëó÷àþòñÿ ìîùíûå ïåðåãðóçû â öåïè, äà è íîãå íåóäîáíî. íå ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî èìåëîñü â âèäó â ïóíêòå ÷åõîë, ìîë ïåäàëü íàäî ðàçáèðàòü. ÿ áû ýòî íàîáîðîò â ïëþñ ïîñòàâèë, ÷òî ïåäàëü ðàçáèðàåòñÿ. äðóãîå äåëî ÷òî ñàì ÷åõîë ãàëèìûé... |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:31 |
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ÿ íå ãîâîðèë ÷òî ìîãó ëóòüøå, íå ãîâîðèë ÷òî ¨ðêåð íå êîðîëü! íå ïëåâàëñÿ... ïðî Èçðàèëü âîîáùå ãîí ãàâíî è ïðîâîêàöèÿ... ìåíÿ ìîæíî íåíàâèäåòü! ìíå îò ýòîãî íå áîëüíî, è äàæå íå íåïðèÿòíî (à íàâåðíîå çðÿ). ¨ðêåð, òàê ññûëêè íå äàþò... èñòî÷íèê òâîé ñ http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ âîîáùå ïîëíûé áðåä, èçâèíè åñëè îáèæàþ... ñîâñåì íå õîòåë. ß ïîíèìàþ ÷òî òû õî÷åø êàê ëóòüøå, ïðîñòî íå íàäî ïèñàòü î òîì â ÷¸ì ïîëíîñòüþ íå ðàçîáðàëñÿ... íó íå çíàþ êàê åù¸ òåáå îáúÿñíèòü. Èçâèíè åñëè îáèäåë... ÿ äåéñòâèòåëüíî íå õîòåë... ïðè ÷¸ì ñäåñü ìàêñèìàëèçì? ÷åãî ÿ òóò ìàêñèìàëèçèðîâàë? â ÷¸ì ýòî ïðîÿâèëîñü â êîíêðåòíîì ïîñòå? |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:32 |
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ÄÀ áëèí ÿ íå ïðî 5000! ß ïðî òî ÷òî 9000 íà ÄÂÅ ÏÅÄÀËÈ ðàçáèðàåöà ïîËÞÁÎÌÓ! Âòîðàÿ ïîëó÷àåöà single...ñ îäíîé íîæêîé...íà òàêè ðàíüøå èãðàë ×åìáåðñ(5000)...ïî÷åìó òî èìåííî íà âòîðûõ ïåäàëÿõ îò êàðäàíà! íå òàê òû ìåíÿ ïîíÿë! |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:34 |
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"ïåðåáðàíêà ñ ïóáåòàðíûì Misheé." õàì òû ¨ðêåð... ïðîñòî õàì... à çðÿ òû óï¸ðñÿ... åñëè çàãëÿíèø íà ññûêó êàòîðóþ ÿ äàë, òî ìíîãîå óçíàåø... ìåíÿ íå âîëíóåò ìîÿ ïîïóëÿðíîñòü íà ôîðóìå! íà ýòîì òåìó "îá î ìíå" ìîæíî çàêðûòü. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:37 |
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àõ Éîðêåð, àõ íåãîäÿé! äöàòü ëåò èãðàåøü íà áàðàáàíàõ, à òàê è íå ðàáîçðàëñÿ ô ïåäàëÿõ
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Things you own, own you
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:38 |
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Premier Zildjian
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Ìîíñòð, ÷åõîë èç äðÿííîé òêàíè, è íàäî îòâèí÷èâàòü ïëàòôîðìû, ÷òîáû òóäà ïåäàëü óëîæèòü. Ñïåöèàëüíûì êëþ÷îì, êîòîðûé â êîìïëåêòå (êñòàòè åù¸ îäèí ïëþñ). Ìíå äëÿ 9310 ïðèøëîñü êóïèòü ÷åõîë çà 50 áàêîâ, ÷òîáû êîìôîðòíî å¸ íîñèòü. Ëåíêîô, ïîñìîòðè âíèìàòåëüíî, ÿ íå óâåðåí, íî ÿ ìîãó îøèáèòüñÿ. Ïîïðàâüòå, ïåðåäåëàåì score, äëÿ ýòîãî òîïèê è åñòü òóò. 
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
- John Fowles. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:42 |
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Premier Zildjian
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Íå áóäó ñïîðèòü íè ñ êåì, ñ÷èòàéòå,÷òî ÿ òåìó íà÷àë. À âû å¸ ðàçâèâàéòå. Misha, âñ¸ íîðìàëüíî, èçâèíè åñëè çàäåë, íî ÿ æå äëÿ òåáÿ (è ïîäîáíûõ íàïèñàë â ïåðâîì ïîñòå: >è ïåðåä òåì êàê çàãàæèâàòü òîïèê äîáàâëåíèÿ òèïà..... À òû íå óäåðæàëñÿ. P.S. Ññûëêó ïî÷èòàþ. Íî ýòî îäíî ìíåíèå. Òîëüêî ïðî êîáðó ÿ ïðî÷èòàë îêîëî 160 ìíåíèé. |
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
- John Fowles. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:43 |
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Ìîñêâà Gretsch Ludwig Istanbul Agop 
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Äîáàâëþ, ÷òî èç àêñåññóàðîâú ó 9002 åùå èìååòñÿ Nylon Straps, Standard DW Drum Keys - 2 øò., 9000 Bass Drum Pedal Key with 3/16” hex, 5mm hex and Standard Key à òàêæå Hex Keys. P.S. Éîðêåðú êàðîëü |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:44 |
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ýé âû, äåçåðòèðû, íàõ, ÷î âàì íå ñïèöî-òî? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:45 |
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Ìîñêâà Gretsch Ludwig Istanbul Agop
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à..çàáûë.. Ìèøî - Öàðü! |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:47 |
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Î, Ïàøêî èâèëñÿ! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:49 |
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Premier Zildjian
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Âîò Doggy ïîçèòèâíî îòíåññÿ ê âîïðîñó, ñïàñèáî. Çíà÷èò-ñÿ èñò÷î ê DW íàäî äîáàâèòü î÷êîâ, à ÿ íà íå¸ è íàöåëèëñÿ  Ñïàñèáî. |
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
- John Fowles. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:54 |
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à åùå DVD ñ íåé èäåò:) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:56 |
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Moscow
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¨ðêåð, ÿ ñêëîíåí äóìàòü, òû çà Ôåððåðà õîäèë ãîëîñîâàòü íà âûáîðû ìýðà!?... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 10:59 |
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Lenkoff, çàâòðà ïåðåäåëàåì âñ¸ íåìíîãî, äîæä¸ìñÿ óòî÷íåíèé, ìíåíèé, è âûâåäåì ñðåäíèå ðåçóëüòàòû. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:00 |
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¨ðêåð, òàì íå ìíåíèå, òàì ôàêòû... âñ¸ â êàðòèíêàõ... âîò åñëè áóäåò âðåìÿ, ïî æåëàíèþ, ïåðåâåäè òó ñòàòüþ. ß íå â êîåì ñëó÷àå íå ïûòàëñÿ "çàãàæèâàòü òîïèê" ÿ íàïèñàë ñâî¸ ìíåíèå î í¸ì, à ïàòîì äîáàâèë êó÷ó èçâåñòíûõ ìíå ôàêòîâ... âñ¸ îê, çàìÿëè.  Ïåðëîâàêîì ÷åõëå íå ÷åãî îòêðó÷èâàòü íå íàäî... òàì íà ëèïó÷êàõ âñ¸. Ñòàøåê Êåëëåð, íå ÷åãî ñòðàøíîãî è òåáÿ âûëå÷àò... â ìåñòî òîãî ÷òî-á òóïî ïîääåðæèâàòü Êîðîëÿ èñïîëüçóé ñâîþ ãîëîâó. Òî ÷òî òû íàïèñàë ìíå ðàííåå âîîáùå áðåä òàê êàê ÿ ñäåëàë òî ÷òî òû ñêàçàë ÷òî ÿ íå ñäåëàë à èìåííî " Îáúÿñíè, ïîäñêàæè!" åñëè-á ìíå áûëî áû îõîòà ïîâûåçæàòü, òî ÿ áû íå ïèñàë êðèòèêó â ñòîðîíó âåñüìà ïîïóëÿðíîé ïåðñîíû íà ýòîì ñàéòå. Íà ÏÌÆ ìíå íå íàäî, ÿ ãðàæäàíèí òîé ñòðàíû... ê ÷åìó ýòî âîîáùå áûëî? "Òå ïî âûåæûâàòüñÿ îõîòà.?" âñåì êòî ëîæèòñÿ ñïàòü, ñïîêîéíîãî ñíà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:00 |
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Mike, òåìà íå îá ýòîì. Èçâèíè. Ñîçäàé òîïèê, åñëè òåáÿ ýòî âîëíóåò. | |
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:03 |
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äàâàé êîëèñü, çà êîãî ãîëîñîâàë, íèãðèòÿíèí! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:05 |
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Premier Zildjian
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Mike, ÿ ÷¸ðíûì òîëüêî â Ðîññèè áûë
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
- John Fowles. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:07 |
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ÿ è ãîâîðþ, åñëè Áëóìáåðê ñòîðîííèê Áóøà è ãååâ, à Ôåððåð çà ÷èðíîêîæåõ è ëàòèíîñîô, òî òû êàê ïðâåëüíûé ìóæûê ãîëîñîâàë çà Ôåððåðà. Èëè ÿ îøûïñÿ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:19 |
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Premier Zildjian
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Çàãàäèëè òåìó âñå òàêè.
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
- John Fowles. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:20 |
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îíà èçíà÷àëüíî áàëà îáðå÷åíà íà ýòî. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:22 |
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Mike, çàòî òåïåðü åñëè ïèîíýðû áóäóò ñïðàøèâàòü, ìû èç èëè ñþäà íàïðàâèì, èëè â âîåíòîðã. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:26 |
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íå, òîëüêî ê Æåíüêå. òàì ìàïèêñîô ñâåæûõ ìíîãî ïîäâåçëè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:28 |
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>Âîçìîæíîñòü èñïîëüçîâàòü ëåâóþ ïåäàëü êàê îòäåëüíóþ, ïîëíîöåííóþ ïåäàëü. >!!!!!DW 9002 – íåò – “1”!!!!! ×òî çà áðåä?! Ëåâóþ ïåäàëü ìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü îòäåëüíî! |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:31 |
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à ìîæíî è íå èñïîëüçîâàòü. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:35 |
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Èòîãî - ìåíÿåì äàííûå î DW 9002, (ïðèíîøó èçâèíåíèÿ çà íåòî÷íîñòü): >Âîçìîæíîñòü èñïîëüçîâàòü ëåâóþ ïåäàëü êàê îòäåëüíóþ, ïîëíîöåííóþ ïåäàëü. DW 9002 – ÄÀ – “5” Axis – äà – “5” Yamaha 9310 – äà – “5” Iron Cobra – íåò – “1” Pearl Eliminator – íåò – “1” Ïëþñ ïÿòü áàëëîâ. Âîò ÷òî ïîëó÷èëîñü: íà ñåãîäíÿøíèé ìîìåíò ðåçóëüòàòû òàêîâû (ñîîòâåñòâåííî ðåéòèíã ìåíÿåòñÿ, æä¸ìñ äðóãèõ ïîïðàâîê/ïðåäëîæåíèé ïî äåëó): 1. Pearl Eliminator – 30 áàëëîâ. 2. DW 9002 – 28 áàëëà 3. Yamaha 9310 – 25 áàëëîâ 4. Iron Cobra – 21 áàëë 5. Axis – 17 áàëëîâ |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:45 |
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Áëóìáåðê èëè Ôåðåðü? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:51 |
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Mike, îñòàíü, ÿ íå õîäèë íà âûáîðû, ó ìåíÿ ñåðäöå î Ìîñêâå áîëåëî, ïîñìîòðåë ñåãîäíÿ ôîòêè íîâûõ ðàçâîäîê íà Ëåíèíãðàäñêîì, è î áîìæàõ ñòàòüþ. Çàêðîåì òåìó, ÿ æå ñîçäàâàë òåìó äëÿ ïîëèâà ìåíÿ, è Àìåðèêè äåðüìîì, ïåðåâåë å¸ âî ôëóä, à îíà íå âîñïîëüçîâàëàñü óñïåõîì. Äà è íàåçäû âôðîäå ïðåêðàòèëèñü. Îñòàíü óæå, íåõàðîøèé. ×î ïðèñòàë. Çàâèñòü? Òû òî òóò áûë, çíàåøü ÷òî ê ÷åìó, Òåáå òî ìîçãè íå çàãàäèòü ïðîïàãàíäîé, òû âñ¸ âèäåë ñâîèìè ãëàçàìè. Òàê ÷òî òàì ïðî ïåäàëè òî ó òåáÿ åñòü äîáàâèòü? Èëè ìàêñòîíû áóäåøü âäóâàòü ïèîíåðàì, íàæèâàÿñü íà èõ ðîäèòåëÿõ? |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:55 |
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íåò, òàê äåëàòü ÿ íå ñòàíó, íàæûâàöî ôñìûñëå. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 11:58 |
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Âîò, êñòàòè, îäíî èç ìåñò, ãäå ÿ ïðîáîâàë íåêîòîðûå èç ýòèõ ïåäàëåé ëè÷íî. Mike çíàåò ýòî ìåñòî - Guitar Center â Ãîëëèâóäå, Los Angelos. È òàì åñòü ñåò, ãäå ñòîèò DW9002, ÿ ââîëþ ìîã íàèãðàòüñÿ, ýòî ìíå è íàäî áûëî. Âòîðàÿ ôîòêà. |
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 12:01 |
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Mike, äåíüãè ó ïèîíåðîâ îòêóäà? Î÷åíü òû ñêîëüçêèé ÷åëîâåê
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 12:08 |
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÷îéòà ÿ ñêîëüñêåé? ïåîíåðû òîæå íå ëîõè, áóòûëêè ñîáèðàþò è ñäàþò, ñîáðàòüåô ñâîèõ êðûøóþò, òåëåôîíû âîðîâàííûå ïåðåïðîäàþò, à òû ãîâîðèøü îòêóäà äåíüãå. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 12:15 |
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Ìîñêâà Êàêîé-òî øóìíûé...
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ÁËÈÍ! Ïåðë òîæà - "5"! Òîæå ðàçáèðàåòñÿ! |
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÷îòî ýòà óñòàíîâî÷êà íåêàòèòü , àëüò íà ñòîéêå êðåïèòñÿ ... (ñ) Sellos
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 12:22 |
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Âñå ïÿòü Öîáðà 1 ïèàíåðû àäóìàéòèñü
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 13:36 |
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Ìîñêâà Yamaha, DW, Sabian 
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À âû ìåíÿ ðóãàëè... Äà âñå õîðîøèå, áëèí ýòî ìíåíèÿ îäíîãî èëè íåñêîëüêèõ ÷åëîâåê, âàì íå ïîõ êòî íà ÷åì èãðàåòú, ãëàâíîå ÷òîá ñàìîìó óäîáíî áûëî è íðàâèëîñü ... Âîí Òîìàñ Ëýíã íà ñîíîðå êàê ìîëîòèò, âñå ñîñóò, à ÿ âîò âàùå íå ïîíèìàþ êàê íà òàêîì ãóìíå èãðàòü ìîæíî, ïëàòôîðìà ìàëåíüêàÿ, íå íàñòðîèøü òîëêîì.... |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 13:38 |
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Ìîñêâà Yamaha, DW, Sabian
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ÏÎÊÓÏÀÉÒÈ ÃÀÌÍÎ!!!!!! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 13:40 |
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òåìà çàñðàíà íà ïÿòü! Ñîãëàñåí ñ òåì ÷òî ÿìàõà è öîáðà çàíÿëè ñâîè ïîçèöèè, îñòàëüíîå íå òðîãàë, è íå áóäó, ó ìåíÿ òåðü åñòü ñàìêà! |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 13:40 |
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Ìîñêâà Gretsch Ludwig Istanbul Agop
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ëàäíà | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 13:41 |
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÷èõîë-òî íàøîë? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 13:43 |
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íåà, íå èñêàë åøøî, ðàáîòàé ïðèäàâèëî íàõ... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 13:44 |
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ëàäû, ïî ãåáðîëòàðó òàäà ïîðåøàé. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 13:49 |
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îê, ùà ïîèñ÷ó åâî âíåøíèé âèò... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 21:41 |
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â ñòàíäàðòå DW9002 íà äâå ïåäàëè íå ðàçáèðàåòñÿ,õîòÿ êàçàëîñü áû äëÿ ýòîãî ó íåå âñå åñòü.Íå õâàòàåò òîëüêî äåðæàòåëÿ ïðóæèíû íà âòîðîé ïåäàëè.Íó è åùå îäíó ïðóæèíó æåëàòåëüíî èìåòü,òàê êàê ïåðåñòàâëÿòü èõ ãåìîððîé. âîò ÷òî ìíå â ñâîå âðåìÿ îòâåòèëè èç ñëóæáû ïîääåðæêè DW ïî ïîâîäó ðàçáèðàíèÿ DW9002 íà äâå ïåäàëè This is not a recommended modification. You can just use the regular primary as a pedal, and will have to purchase a 5000 series spring, and rocker assembly, which can be special ordered through your local authorized dealer. Remember any customer modification will void the 5 year warranty! Thank you. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2005 23:51 |
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Íå çíàþ .ó ìåíÿ òóãäû íå òîïîâàÿ ìîäåëü à âñåãî ëèø 5002 . Ëåâóþ ïåäàëü î÷åíü ëåãêî èñïîëüçîâàòü/íå èñïîëüçîâàòü . à êåéñ - òîæå òÿæåëûé è áåç ëÿìîê íà ñïèíó , à õîòåëîñü áû ðóêè îñâîáîäèòü.... DW-5002 çîëîòàÿ ñåðåäèíà !!! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 10.11.2005 09:33 |
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êóïëþ àõèñ õàðäâåéð. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 05.07.2006 23:14 |
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¥ ×åëÿáèíñê Ahead,Yamaha,Sabian,Paiste,Vic Firth a5 rock 
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Íåçíàþ,êàê íà ñ÷åò îñòàëüíûõ, íî ÿìàõà îáðàäîâàëà-î÷ ÷åòêèé êîíòðîëü.Íî ÷åõîë èç õðåíîâîãî ìàòåðèàëà ýòî äà, ïîäøèâàòü çàìó÷àëñÿ, è ëÿìêà õðåíîâàÿ, ñöóêà â æãóò ñâîðà÷èâàåòñÿ ïîñòîÿííî, íî â îñòàëüíîì î÷ óíèâåðñàëüíà... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 06.07.2006 01:15 |
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äà ÷î âñ¸ ϸðë äà ϸðë? õîòü ïðîäàâàé ñâîé êàðäàí è ïîêóïàé ϸðë...áëÿòü..âîò! 
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 06.07.2006 01:22 |
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Àêñèñ ãàâíèöî...íî íå ñî âñåì ñîãëàñåí... | |
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Ðóññêèé ÷åëîâåê ðàäè "Õ...é çíàåò çà÷åì" ñïîñîáåí íà íåâåðîÿòíûå ïîäâèãè!
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 06.07.2006 02:16 |
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à çà ñûêñóàëüíàñòü àöýíêå? ïà ìíå, äûê Óàìàõà ñàìàéà êðàñèâîÿ àæ íîãè ÷åøóööî  
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 06.07.2006 03:00 |
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ìîñêâà DW,PorkP,Paiste,Roland 
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2 NewYorker - Ìàëàäöà çà íåîáû÷íûé, è ñòàðàòåëüíûé ïîäõîä. î DW 9002 ìîãó òî÷íî ñêàçàòü, ÷òî îíà íà 2 îòäåëüíûå ðàçáèðàåòñÿ, ò.ê. ó ìåíÿ èìåííî îíà, è â ðàçîáðàííîì âèäå:) Ýòî ïðàâäà ãåìîðîéíî, íî åå òî÷íî äåëàëè íå ñ òàêèì ðàñ÷åòîì:) È åñëè óæ íà òî ïîøëî, òî òàì â êîìïëåêòå íå îäèí êëþ÷ (ñì. âûøå). Åäèíñòâåííî , ÷òî ó ëåâîé ïåäàëè ïðóæèíà ñòàíîâèòñÿ ñíàðóæè , è â æåñòêîì êðåïëåíèè íèæíåãî áîëòà, â îòëè÷èè îò åå êîðäàííîãî ñîñòîÿíèÿ, êîãäà îáå ïðóæèíû ñïðàâà íàõîäÿòñÿ âíóòðè îòíîñèòåëüíî ñòîåê, è ïîäâèæíû îíè ñíèçó îáå. |
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Ãäå ãëóïîñòü - îáðàçåö, òàì ðàçóì - áåçóìèå.
Êðèòèêà äîëæíà áûòü êîíñòðóêòèâíîé. Îñêîðáëåíèÿ äîëæíû áûòü àðãóìåíòèðîâàíû. Òû äóðàê,ïîòîìó ÷òî òû äåáèë, íàïðèìåð. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 06.07.2006 04:28 |
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ï¸ðë äåéñòâèòåëüíî êðóòî. êàê êòî òî ñêàçàë, ÷òî ï¸ðë ýòî êðóòàÿ ïåäàëü, êîòîðóþ ïëîõî ðàñêðóòèëè . . . 
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 06.07.2006 07:17 |
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êñòà, ñïàñèáî çà àáçîð è íå íàäà àôôòàðà ÷ìûðèòü... îí ïðàäåëàë ðàáîòó íàò ìàòåðèàëîì... Íà êóÿ âûïåíäðèâàòüñÿ... Åñëè òû òàêîé êðóòîé, ïà÷èìó òû òóñóåøüñÿ çäåñü ? òå íà àëëåþ ñëàâû íàäà, à ïîòîì â ìàâçîëåé . . . ñðàçó. íè êàâî íè õàòåë àáèäèòü, ïðîñòî áóäüòå ëþäüìè - è óâàæàéòå èõ òðóò. Ýòî ôîðóì ôôñ¸-òàêè . . .
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 06.07.2006 15:04 |
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äûê õòî ïàáèäèë? íà øòî äåíüãå êàïèòü? Äðóæáà ïîáåäèëî? |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 06.07.2006 15:05 |
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àãçåç êàíåøíà! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 06.07.2006 15:06 |
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òîêà ÷òî îòçâîíèëñÿ ïàðåíü, ñêàçàë, ÷òî êàðäàí ϸðë ëåãêî è âåðíî ðàçáèðàåööà íà 2 íåçàâèñèìûå ïåäàëè) Îáçîð âñå ðàâíî õîðîøèé;) |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 06.07.2006 17:50 |
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Õìì, à ìîæíî ïðî ðåãóëèðîâêó "âûñîòû ïÿòêè" íà ýëèìèíàòîðå ïî-ïîäðîáíåå? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 02:52 |
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ïåðå÷èòàë - õàðîøû àïçîð, ñàõðàíèë êàã ïàìÿòêó. ñïàñèáà éîðêåðó!  ïà ìíå äûê éàìàõà ïðèâëèêàòèëüíàÿ. íàâåðíà...  À ÷î, Òåãðàí 9410 íå àáàçðåë ñ äèðåêò-äðàéâîì? ìîò òàì êàêèå àñîáèííàñòå åñòü? |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 02:58 |
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íó äàê ÷î? âûáðàñûâàòü DW? àëè íåò? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 10:14 |
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ÊîÄ âûáðàñûâàé
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Ðóññêèé ÷åëîâåê ðàäè "Õ...é çíàåò çà÷åì" ñïîñîáåí íà íåâåðîÿòíûå ïîäâèãè!
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 10:59 |
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ñêîðåå íå âûñîòû ïÿòêè, à ïðîñòî ïÿòêó ìîæíî ïåðåìåùàòü ãîðèçîíòàëüíî òåì ñàìûì ðåãóëèðóÿ îùóùåíèå îò ïåäàëè. íà 2 ïåäàëè åù¸ êàê ðàçáèðàåòñÿ! |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 11:25 |
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Ìåêñèêàíåö Êó÷à ðàçîáðàòü ìîæíî âñå ÷òî óãîäíî
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Ðóññêèé ÷åëîâåê ðàäè "Õ...é çíàåò çà÷åì" ñïîñîáåí íà íåâåðîÿòíûå ïîäâèãè!
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 12:06 |
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¥ ×åëÿáèíñê Ahead,Yamaha,Sabian,Paiste,Vic Firth a5 rock
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àãà, òî÷íî, ÿ â äåòñòâå âñå ðàçîáðàòü ñòàðàëñÿ, òîëüêî âîò ñîáèðàòü ðåäêî ïîëó÷àëîñü... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 12:09 |
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Ìîñêâà
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à äàéòå êòîíòü íà êîðäàíå ïîïðîáîâàòü ïîèãðàö... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 12:21 |
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¥ ×åëÿáèíñê Ahead,Yamaha,Sabian,Paiste,Vic Firth a5 rock
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 ñìûñëå???? 
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 12:25 |
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Ìîñêâà
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íó íå èãðàë íèêàäà... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 12:26 |
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Ìîðèñàéä
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ñ÷àñòëèâûéÚ - îí íå èãðàë íà àêñèçå è íå õî÷åò ïðîäàòü çà íåãî äóøó
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 12:27 |
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Ìîñêâà
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æàäèíû... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 15:13 |
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812 Tama,Axis 
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êñòàòè,ó Ïåðëèêà â êîìïëåêòå èäóò íå 4,à 8 êýìîâ) Ïëþñ 2 êëþ÷à-÷åòûðåõãðàííèêà è 6 øåñòèãðàííèêîâ ðàçíîé òîëùèíû(ïî 2 êàæäîãî). À êåéñ,ìíå êàæåòñÿ,ëó÷øèé èç âñåõ,ïîòîìó êàê íà ïëå÷å ñïîêîéíî íîñèòñÿ,è â ðóêàõ òîæå.Òâåðäûé,íå ïðîìîêàåò,ñ êó÷åé êàðìàíîâ,â íåãî ìîæíî ïðè æåëàíèè áîòèíêè ñ ïàëêàìè çàïèõíóòü. Âîò)) Òàê ÷òî Ñëàâà Ýëèìèíàòîðó!!! ...è +3 áàëëà åìó
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Òåõíèêà-ýòî íå áûñòðîòà è ÷åòêîñòü,ýòî óìåíèå ñûãðàòü âñå òî,î ÷åì äóìàåøü.
myspace.com/perimeterband myspace.com/jimmy2stix Èãðàòü áûñòðî-ýòî ïðîñòî.Îáðàùàéòåñü-ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì ïîäåëþñü çíàíèåì. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 15:19 |
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ß íå æàäíûé ìîãó äàö...˸õÎ çâàíè))) | |
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Ðóññêèé ÷åëîâåê ðàäè "Õ...é çíàåò çà÷åì" ñïîñîáåí íà íåâåðîÿòíûå ïîäâèãè!
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 15:46 |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2006 16:09 |
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Ðóññêèé ÷åëîâåê ðàäè "Õ...é çíàåò çà÷åì" ñïîñîáåí íà íåâåðîÿòíûå ïîäâèãè!
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.07.2006 13:13 |
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Ëåõî, ÿ ìåñÿòñ èãðàòü íå áóäó íåãäå...áåðè äî àâãóñòà 5002 | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.07.2006 13:22 |
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Ìîñêâà
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Òîõú, ñïàñèáî... äûê ÿ ïîøóòèë  îí ìíå íè ê ÷åìó  ìóçëî íå òî.... |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.07.2006 13:28 |
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ìภäåëî ïðåäëîæèòü...à ïðî ìóçëî òû íå ïðàô!...äåëî íå â ìóçëå...òîæå ñàìîå ÷òî ñêàçàòü: ß áóäó èãðàòü îäíîé ðóêîé, ôòîðàÿ ìíå íèê÷åìó, ìóçëî íåòî!... ÿ ïåðåãèáàþ ÷óòîãú íî ñìûñë äîëæåí áûòü ÿñåí 
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.07.2006 13:31 |
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Ìîñêâà
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íå-å-å-å, íà ñàìîì äåëå ÿ íå ïðàâ... ìóçëî òóò äåéñòâèòåëüíî íè ïðè ÷îì... ÿ ïðîñòî íà êîðäàíå íèêàäà íå ïðîáîâàë... âîò â äâà êîòëà èëè äâå ïåäàëè íà áàñ-áîðîáàí - äðóãîå äåëî
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 09.07.2006 23:20 |
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Moskow drums
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Ðàñêàæèòå ïðî Trick ïîæàëóéñòà. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 23.09.2006 14:30 |
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Ìîñêâà Yamaha, DW, Sabian
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Íàäî áû â èíôå ãäå-íèòü òåìêó ïðèêðåïèòü, äëÿ ìîëîäûõ.... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 23.09.2006 14:31 |
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Ìîðèñàéä
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äà ëàäíî,ïóñòü ó÷àòñÿ ôïîåçã õîäèòü! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âñ¸ î ïåäàëÿõ Axis, Iron Cobra, DW9002, Pearl Eliminator è Yamaha 9310.
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2008 18:36 |
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