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À òàê ýòî òû äåëàë ñáîðíèê ýòîò?? Êñòàòè íåäóðíî âïîëíå - òîê ÿ íåïîíÿë ê ÷åìó 2-å ãðóïïû â êîíöå ïðèïèñàíû êàêèå òî:) ÿ èõ òàê è íå ñëóøàë!
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C DVD ïåðåïèñàë èëè ñ CD? Íà DVD ÷òîáû ìåñòî íå ïðîïàäàëî ÿ âñêèõ áîíóñîâ íàêèäàë, â òîì ÷èñëå ìï3øêè è ðîëèêè ñ ýòîãî ôîðóìà. P.S. Êñòàòè, åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü ñäåëàòü ýòè óðîêè ñïîñîáíûìè ê ïðîñìîòðó íà VCD/DVD ïëååðå ÷åðåç òåëåâèçîð. Êîìó èíòåðåñíî, ïèøèòå. |
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Ìåíÿ ïîïðîñèëè ïåðåâåñòè íà ðóññêèé óðîêè Ìàðêà Âåññåëÿ - òå ÷òî ÿ ðàññûëàë íà äèñêàõ. Âîò ïîêà ïðîáíûé âàðèàíò ïåðâîãî ðîëèêà è ïåðåâîä îïèñàíèÿ 4 óïðàæíåíèé (ïåðåâåñòè âèäåî ïîêà íå óñïåë). Ëþáûå ïîïðàâêè ïðèâåòñòâóþòñÿ. Ñîâåòû è Èäåè (ïåðåâîä âñòóïèòåëüíîé ðå÷è) Ïåðåä òåì êàê ìû ïðèñòóïèì ê íàøåìó ïåðâîìó çàíÿòèþ, ÿ õî÷ó äàòü ïàðó ñîâåòîâ è ðàññêàçàòü îá èäåÿõ ñòîÿùèõ â îñíîâå ýòèõ óðîêîâ. Ïåðâîå, ýòî òî ÷òî ÿ ïðåäñòàâëÿþ ñåáå ðàáîòîé íàä òåõíèêîé. ß äóìàþ ÷òî íóæíî âûäåëèòü íåìíîãî âðåìåíè â äåíü íà òî ÷òîáû ïîëíîñòüþ ôîêóñèðîâàòüñÿ íà ñâîåé òåõíèêå, áóäü òî 5 ìèíóò èëè 10, èëè, åñëè âû îäåðæèìû, è áóäåòå çàíèìàòüñÿ 45 ìèíóò, ñëåäÿ ïðè ýòîì çà ðóêàìè è çâóêîì êîòîðûå âû èçâëåêàåòå èç áàðàáàíà èëè òðåíèðîâî÷íîãî ïýäà èëè òîãî íà ÷åì èãðàåòå. Óáåäèòåñü, ÷òî ñëûøèòå è ïðèñòàëüíî íàáëþäàåòå çà âñåì ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò, î÷åíü êðèòè÷íî îòíîñÿñü ê ñâîèì äåéñòâèÿì íà ïðîòÿæåíèè âñåãî çàíÿòèÿ. Òàêîãî ðîäà ñôîêóñèðîâàííûå ïðàêòè÷åñêèå çàíÿòèÿ äàäóò íàèâûñøèå ðåçóëüòàòû. Îäèí î÷åâèäíûé ìîìåíò, êîòîðûé ñëåäóåò îòìåòèòü, ýòî çàíÿòèÿ ñ ïðåïîäàâàòåëåì. Ïîñòàðàéòåñü íàéòè ëè÷íîãî ïðåïîäàâàòåëÿ, åñëè ýòî âîçìîæíî. Ýòè âèäåî óðîêè õîðîøè, è â íàø âåê äîñòóïíî ìíîãîå, ïðîñòî ïîðàçèòåëüíî êàêîé îáúåì èíôîðìàöèè ìîæíî ïîëó÷èòü ÷åðåç êîìïàêò-äèñêè èëè èíòåðíåò, íî ýòî â ñàìîì äåëå íå çàìåíÿåò ëè÷íûõ çàíÿòèé ñ ïðåïîäàâàòåëåì. Åùå îäèí ñîâåò, êîòîðûé ÿ äàþ âñåì ó÷åíèêàì, èìåòü õîðîøèå áàðàáàííûå ïàëêè. Ýòî êàæåòñÿ ñîâåðøåííî î÷åâèäíûì, íî ÿ âñòðå÷àë ìîëîäûõ ëþäåé ðàáîòàâøèõ íàä ñâîåé òåõíèêîé è ñòàðàâøèõñÿ ðàçâèòü åå, ïðè ýòîì îíè èãðàëè, íó çíàåòå, òàêèìè î÷åíü ñòàðûìè ðîê-í-ðîëë'íûìè ïàëêàìè, íåìíîãî ñãðûçåííûìè è äàæå îäíà èç íèõ ìîãëà áûòü ÷óòü òðåñíóâøåé, è â òàêîì äóõå. Îíè òðàòèëè êó÷ó âðåìåíè, òðàòèëè ñâîé ýíòóçèàçì, à âñå ïîòîìó ÷òî íå èìåëè íåîáõîäèìûõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ ÷òîáû ñòàòü ëó÷øå. ß ðåêîìåíäóþ ïàëêè Vic Firth, ïîòîìó ÷òî îíè ïîäîáðàíû ïî âûñîòå òîíà è îòñîðòèðîâàíû ïî âåñó.  öåëîì ýòî çíà÷èò ÷òî ïàëêè çâó÷àò ïîëíîñòüþ îäèíàêîâî è îùóùàþòñÿ ñîâåðøåííî îäèíàêîâî. Èòàê, ÷åì ëó÷øå ïàëêè ó âàñ áóäóò òåì ïðîùå âàì áóäåò ðàáîòàòü íàä òåõíèêîé ïî ìåðå íàøåãî ïðîäâèæåíèÿ. Êîå-÷òî åùå ÿ õîòåë áû ïîðåêîìåíäîâàòü, äàæå íå ïîðåêîìåíäîâàòü, à ñêàçàòü ÷òî ýòî íåîáõîäèìîñòü, òî ÷òî íóæíî âñåì ïåðêóññèîíèñòàì - ìåòðîíîì. ß íå èìåþ âèäó ýòè áîëüøèå ìåòðîíîìû, ÿ èìåþ âèäó ëþáîé ñîâðåìåííûé, òî ÷òî âû ìîæåòå ñëûøàòü âî âðåìÿ èãðû.Ìû áóäåì ÷àñòî ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ èì âî âðåìÿ ýòèõ çàíÿòèé. Ìíå íðàâÿòñÿ ìåòðîíîìû, ñïîñîáíûå äåëèòü âðåìÿ óäàðà íà âîñüìûå, øåñòíàäöàòûå èëè òðèîëè, âîò ïî÷åìó ÿ ëþáëþ ýëåêòðîííûå ìåòðîíîìû - îíè äàþò äîñòàòî÷íî èíôîðìàöèè âî âðåìÿ èãðû. ß ìîãó âûáèðàòü äðîáíîñòü ïîäóäàðîâ, ìîãó áûñòðî ìåíÿòü òåìï. Äëÿ áàðàáàíùèêîâ íåò íè÷åãî, ñëåäîì çà ïàëêàìè è áàðàáàíîì, íè÷åãî áîëåå âàæíîãî ÷åì ïðèîáðåòåíèå ìåòðîíîìà è ïîñòîÿííûå çàíÿòèÿ ñ íèì. Äðóãîé ñîâåò - íå çàáûâàéòå âðåìåíàìè îòõîäèòü îò ìåòðîíîìà. Ýòî ìîæåò ïîêàçàòüñÿ çàáàâíûì, äî ýòîãî ÿ òîëüêî ÷òî ãîâîðèë ÷òî áû âû âñå âðåìÿ óïðàæíÿëèñü ñ ìåòðîíîìîì, íî âðåìåíàìè ÿ ñîâåòóþ ìîèì ó÷åíèêàì íàäåòü íàóøíèêè, íàéòè ëþáèìóþ ìåëîäèþ íà ðàäèî è èãðàòü âìåñòå ñ íåþ. Ïîòîìó ÷òî èíîãäà ïðîñëóøèâàíèå ìóçûêè, îáû÷íî ê òîìó æå çàïèñàííîé â ñòóäèè òàê èëè èíà÷å ïîä äîðîæêó ìåòðîíîìà, äàåò ñîâåðøåííî èíûå îùóùåíèÿ, îùóùåíèÿ ðèòìà, ñòèëÿ êîòîðûé âû èãðàåòå. Òàê ÷òî åñëè èãðà ñ ìåòðîíîìîì íà÷èíàåò âàì íàäîåäàòü, òî îòëîæèòå åãî íà âðåìÿ â ñòîðîíêó, íàéäèòå õîðîøèå íàóøíèêè, ïîäñîåäèíèòå, è íà÷íèòå ñëóøàòü ëþáèìóþ ìóçûêó è èãðàòü óïðàæíåíèÿ âìåñòå ñ íåþ, ñ òåì ÷òî âàì äåéñòâèòåëüíî íðàâèòñÿ ñëóøàòü. Åùå îäèí ìîìåíò êîòîðûé âàì ñëåäóåò çíàòü âî âðåìÿ ðàáîòû íàä òåõíèêîé ýòî êîíöåïöèÿ "ìûøå÷íîé ïàìÿòè". Ïî ñóùåñòâó, èäåÿ â ñëåäóþùåì: âû íå ìîæåòå ñûãðàòü óïðàæíåíèå îäèí ðàç è îæèäàòü îò íåãî êàêîé áû òî íè áûëî ïîëüçû.  öåëîì âñå ÷òî âàì íóæíî äåëàòü ñ óïðàæíåíèÿìè, ëþáîé ïðîãðàììîé çàíÿòèé, áóäü òî ðóäèìåíòû èëè ýòè óïðàæíåíèÿ, ýòî èãðàòü èõ äîñòàòî÷íî äîëãî äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû âàøèì ìûøöû íà÷àëè çàïîìèíàòü êàêèå äåéñòâèÿ íà ñàìîì äåëå ïðîèñõîäÿò êàæäûé ðàç êîãäà âû óäàðÿåò ïî áàðàáàíó. Òàê ÷òî åñëè ÿ ðàáîòàþ íàä îïðåäåëåííîé òåõíèêîé è ÿ ïðîñòî ñäåëàþ óïðàæíåíèå íåñêîëüêî ðàç ÿ íè÷åãî íå ïîëó÷ó. Êàæäîå èç ýòèõ óïðàæíåíèé, äàæå ïîñëå òîãî êàê ìû ðàçáåðåì èõ è ó âàñ ïîÿâèòñÿ ïîíèìàíèå, åñëè âû íà ñàìîì äåëå õîòèòå ïîëó÷èòü áîëüøå îò íèõ, âàì ïðèäåòñÿ ñûãðàòü èõ ìèëëèîíû ðàç. È ÿ ïîâòîðÿþ: ìèëëèîíû ðàç, âî ìíîæåñòâå ðàçíûõ òåìïîâ íà ìíîæåñòâå ðàçíûõ óðîâíÿõ ãðîìêîñòè. Ýòî åäèíñòâåííûé ïóòü ïðèó÷èòü âàøè ìûøöû âûïîëíÿòü íåîáõîäèìûå äåéñòâèÿ. Òàê ÷òî åñëè âû íå áóäåòå óäåëÿòü íåìíîãî âðåìåíè íà ðàçâèòèå òåõíèêè è íå áóäåòå íà ñàìîì äåëå èãðàòü ýòè âåùè ñíîâà è ñíîâà, òî âû íè÷åãî íå ïîëó÷èòå îò íèõ. È êîíå÷íàÿ öåëü çäåñü - çàñòàâèòü âàøè ðóêè äåëàòü âñå ÷òî âû îò íèõ õîòèòå è êîãäà âû õîòèòå. Óïðàæíåíèå ¹1: 8 Íà Ðóêå  Óïðàæíåíèå "8 íà ðóêå" îñíîâàíî íà óäàðå ñ îòñêîêîì. Ïàëêå ïîçâîëÿåòñÿ ñâîáîäíî îòñêàêèâàòü ïîñëå óäàðà î ïëàñòèê áàðàáàíà. Äâèæåíèÿ ïàëêè ïîäîáíû ñêà÷óùåìó ìÿ÷èêó: ïëàâíûå è òåêó÷èå. ×òîáû ñäåëàòü óäàð ñ îòñêîêîì ïðîñòî "óðîíèòå" ïàëêó íà ïëàñòèê è ïîçâîëüòå åé ñâîáîäíî îòñêî÷èòü. Åñëè âû íå áóäåòå çàæèìàòü êèñòü è ïàëüöû, ýíåðãèè óäàðà ïàëêè î ïëàñòèê áóäåò âïîëíå äîñòàòî÷íî äëÿ âîçâðàòà ïàëêè â èñõîäíîå ïîëîæåíèå. ÍÅ ÒßÍÈÒÅ ÏÀËÊÓ ÎÁÐÀÒÍÎ ÂÂÅÐÕ! Ïîçâîëüòå åé è ïëàñòèêó ñäåëàòü âñþ ðàáîòó. Óïðàæíåíèå ¹2: Êîíòðîëü Ïàëêè  Ýòî óïðàæíåíèå àäàïòèðîâàíî èç íåñêîëüêèõ óïðàæíåíèé, âêëþ÷åííûõ â êíèãó Äæîðäæà Ëîóðåíñà Ñòîóíà Stick Control for the Snare Drummer. ß ðåêîìåíäóþ êàæäîìó áàðàáàíùèêó èìåòü êîïèþ ýòîé êíèãè è çàíèìàòüñÿ ïî íåé åñëè âû æåëàåòå ðàçâèòü íàñòîÿùèé êîíòðîëü íàä ñâîèìè ïàëêàìè! Ïåðâûé òàêò ýòî ðèñóíîê ñ ïðîñòûì ÷åðåäîâàíèåì ðóê, ñ ïîñëåäóþùèìè ðèñóíêàìè (âî 2 òàêòå ðèñóíîê ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïàðàäèääëîì). Âû áóäåòå ïîñòîÿííî èäòè âçàä è âïåðåä ìåæäó òàêòîì "ïðîâåðêè" è íîâûì ðèñóíêîì. Ïðîâåðî÷íûé òàêò íóæåí äëÿ ïîääåðæàíèÿ ÷åòêîãî òåìïà è îäíîðîäíîñòè çâó÷àíèÿ ðóê. Ñòàðàéòåñü ñîõðàíèòü ýòî ñîîòâåòñòâèå ïðè ñìåíå ïðîâåðî÷íîãî òàêòà íà òàêò ñ ðèñóíêîì. Íå çàáûâàéòå ïðîäåëûâàòü óïðàæíåíèå çåðêàëüíî, íà÷èíàÿ ñ äðóãîé ðóêè, çàíèìàòüñÿ ñ ðàçíûìè óðîâíÿìè ãðîìêîñòè è âèäàìè óäàðîâ (ëåãàòî, ñòàêêàòî, è ò. ä.) Óïðàæíåíèå ¹3: Äâîéêè  Ñïîñîáíîñòü èãðàòü ðàññëàáëåííûå äâîéêè ïåðâûé âàæíåéøèé øàã ê èãðå ïðåêðàñíî çâó÷àùèõ ïàðàäèääëîâ è "îòêðûòûõ" äðîáåé. Äëÿ ðàçâèòèÿ áûñòðîãî äâîéíîãî êèñòåâîãî óäàðà, ïðàêòèêóéòå ýòî óïðàæíåíèå íà ïîäóøêå èëè ëþáîé äðóãîé ïîâåðõíîñòè áåç îòñêîêà. Ñòàðàéòåñü äîñòèãíóòü ïëàâíîãî, ðàññëàáëåííîãî äâèæåíèÿ êèñòè íà êàæäîé äâîéêå, äåëàÿ âòîðîé óäàð òîëüêî äâèæåíèÿìè êèñòè è ïàëüöåâ (íå äâèãàÿ ñàìó ðóêó). Ïîðàáîòàéòå íàä òåì, ÷òîáû âòîðîé óäàð êàæäîé äâîéêè áûë òàêæå ñèëåí êàê è ïåðâûé. Óïðàæíåíèå ¹4: Ðàñøèðåííûå Äâîéêè Èãðàéòå ýòî óïðàæíåíèå ðóêàìè íà íîãàõ (áåç ïàëîê), èëè ñ ïàëêàìè íà ïîäóøêå. Íà÷íèòå òàê ìåäëåííî êàê íåîáõîäèìî, ÷òîáû ïîëó÷èòü êà÷åñòâåííûå äâîéêè íà êàæäîé ðóêå (êàæäûé óäàð çâó÷èò ñîâåðøåííî îäèíàêîâî), çàòåì ïîñòåïåííî óâåëè÷èâàéòå òåìï, èñïîëüçóÿ ðàññëàáëåííîå äâèæåíèå êèñòè è ïàëüöåâ äëÿ âòîðîé íîòû êàæäîé äâîéêè. |
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Êñòàòè, òå ðîëèêè ñ 47 ðèòìàìè ÷òî áûëè äîñòóïíû äëÿ ñêà÷èâàíèÿ íà ñàéòå Vic Firth îòòóäà èñ÷åçëè. Òåïåðü îíè íà ïàðó ñ Hudson Music çà íèõ äåíåæêó õîòÿò. Âîò DVD:
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 02.02.2005 01:28 |
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Äàà - ðåñïåêò êîíå÷íî òåáå - ó ìåíÿ òîæå áûëî æåëàíèå âñå ïåðåâåñòè äëÿ ñåáÿ - ÷òîá ëåã÷å ìàòåðèàë óñâàèâàòü! Áóäåò âðåìÿ - ìîæíî è ñîâåòû ïîëåçíûå ïåðåâåñòè - òàì íåìíîãà òåêñòà, íî èíôû ïîëåçíîé êó÷à! òàê ÷òî äåðçàé  È åùå - ïåðåâîäèòü áû ïîñòåïåííî ëó÷øå Html-ñòðàíèöû - òàì ìîæíî âñå ïåðåâåñòè è íà ñòðàíèöó âñå âñòàâèòü - áóäåòü òîæå ñàìîå òîêà íà ðóññêîì ñòðàíèöà! áûëî áû çäîðîâà!! |
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 02.02.2005 23:42 |
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æàëü, íèêòî íå êðèòèêîâàë.. ìíå æå êðèòèêà íóæíà, ÷òîáû ëó÷øå ñäåëàòü.. òî ÷òî ðèñóíîê ó 3 è 4 ñîâïàäàåò ÿ çàìåòèë, îøèáñÿ â ññûëêàõ - â 4-ì äðóãîé äîëæåí áûòü.. à íàñ÷åò ïåðåâîäà html-ñòðàíèöû öåëèêîì - ìûñëü èíòåðåñíàÿ.. ìîæåò, âîîáùå ãîëîñîâîé ïåðåâîä íàìóòèòü? ïî òèïó DCI Music Video, ïîñëóøàòü è ïîíÿòü ýòè óðîêè âñÿêî íå ìåíåå ïîëåçíî, à ìîæåò è ïîëåçíåå ÷åì ñëåäèòü çà èãðîé Õàêèìîâ è ×ýìáåðñîâ - îíè çíàé ñåáå èãðàþò à òîëêîâûõ ñîâåòîâ ïî÷òè ÷òî è íåò.. ó Âåêëà, ïîæàëóé, âèäåî òîëêîâîå.. ðåäêîå èñêëþ÷åíèå ìîæåò âñå æå êòî-òî ðàçáåðåò ñëîâà, ÷òî ÿ ïîìåòèë ñèíèì â Word'å? òàì æå òåêñò òîëüêî, íå âèäåî.. ýòî ÿ åññ-íî ê òåì îáðàùàþñü, ó êîãî ðîëèê ýòîò åñòü.. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 03.02.2005 01:30 |
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Òàì âðîäå ïåðâûå 2 àáçàöà âñå ïðàâèëüíî - â òðåòüåì ïîìåòêà ãäå âðîäå îí ãðèò ÷òî òî òèïà: "So these pieces of wood are not gonna get any way of getting better technique " Òàì ãäå îí ãîâîðèò "I am not really talking about those (?) metronomes." ÿ òîæ íå ïîíÿë - íî ñìûñë êàê ÿ ïîíÿë íàâåðíîå òàêîé (ñóäÿ ïî òîìó ÷òî îí ïîêàçàë ïàëüöàìè): "ß íå èìåþ ââèäó ìàëåíüêèå-äåøåâûå ìåòðîíîìû, à èìåþ ââèäó ÷òî òî, ÷òî âû ñìîæåòå ðàññëûøàòü âî âðåìÿ ñâîåé èãðû." À îñòàëüíîå âðîäå âñå òàê òû ïîäîáðàë - êîíöîâêó ñàìóþ ÿ òîæ íå ïîíÿë:) |
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 03.02.2005 13:21 |
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Îê, ñïàñèáî. Âîîáùå 1 ðîëèê ñàìûé ñëîæíûé, ïåðåâåñòè îñòàëüíûå, äóìàþ, áóäåò ïðîùå. Íàäî áû ìèêðîôîíîì çàòàðèòñÿ... È êóäà íèáóäü ìï3øêè ñ ïåðåâîäîì âûëîæèòü.. Òîëüêî îçâó÷èâàòü áóäó ÿ ñàì, ñèëüíî íå ïðèäèðàéòåñü - îïûòà íåò..
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 04.02.2005 01:53 |
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Ïðîáíûé âàðèàíò ïåðåâîäà 1-ãî ðîëèêà, 2 Ìá. Íàäî çàïóñòèòü îäíîâðåìåííî ñ âèäåîïëååðîì, ÷åì áûñòðåå òåì ëó÷øå - äëÿ ýòîãî ñóùåñòâóþò õîò êåè . Ãëóøèòü çâóê ñàìîãî ðîëèêà íå íóæíî, ïåðåâîä äîñòàòî÷íî ãðîìêèé. http://cp.people.overclockers.ru/cgi-bin/dl.pl?id=4702&filename=Tips.mp3 |
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 04.02.2005 03:45 |
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Äëÿ ýòîãî â áîëüøèíñòâå ïëååðîâ åñòü îïöèÿ "Ïðèñîåäåíèòü ìï3-äîðîæêó"
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 04.02.2005 14:57 |
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Âòîðîé ðîëèê, ïîêà àíãëèéñêèé âàðèàíò: Rebound 8's This first exercise I call Rebound Eights. There is a lot of different names for the exercise, "eight on a hand" is the most obvious because you are playing eight right hands and eight left hands, and there is just go back and forth. You can see this exercise almost seems like a no-brainer, they look and think like "ok, eight right, eight left, got it, next", but in reality there is a lot of things that you can get out of this exercise that will take you from the very beginning level up to the highest level. Essentially what I am trying to accomplish with the rebound stroke is I'm throwing my drumstick against the pad or drum, whichever and I'm trying to get my hand out of the way as much as possible to allow the stick to rebound back up to the up position. So if I start up here and I throw my stick on a drumhead it will rebound back up. I just want to keep my hand out of the way so that I'm not doing anything but throwing the stick initially down to the drum, let me the drum do all the work. And what you've noticed as I play is the stick is traveling straight up and down. Or as much as I can make it travel straight up and down. The other thing is that the height of rise on every single stroke is exactly the same. Wherever I'm playing my right hand, or playing the left hand you should see the strokes pretty much level. The other thing that's very important is that you listen to the sound that you playing when you are playing on the drum or practice pad you should be getting exactly the same sound out of the every single stroke that you play on a pad. Now I'll move to the tempo up to 120, we will play the same rebound strokes, eight on a hand at 120. So you see that the stick is traveling up and down and I am getting my hand out of the way, basically the pad is doing all the work for me - all I'm doing is throwing the stick against the pad and its bouncing up just like if I had a tennis ball or basket ball and I was dribbling that ball. With a traditional grip it's a little bit different. Make sure that you having the same concept in the left hand but the left hand is turning this way rather than this way. So if you are a traditional grip player which I grip I play matched grip, if you are a traditional grip player you wanna make sure that the were isolating that and not pumping you arms. Listen to eight on a hand at 120 now with traditional grip. Now on a little bit more advanced level if I took the tempo up to 200 beats a minute, what you gonna see is that instead of me throwing the stick with my wrist I switch to technique where I start using my back fingers to throw the stick. Really at this tempo, I could play that with my wrist but in reality the faster that you go the more smaller muscle groups you need to use, so that you can control the action better. Watch my hands as I play the same exercise at 200 beats a minute. So you see what I'm doing here is I'm using my back fingers to dribble the stick. Now if you are a beginner this is probably fairly weird to you because the fingers tended not to be coordinated. Tends to be something that you have to develop coordination of these back fingers. Here is an exercise that I teach my beginners to do and you can do this wherever you are a beginner or an advanced level player, specially on a drum set or anything else. Take your fingers and slap the back of your palm. So if I use my fingers like this. You can do this exercise wherever you sitting in the classroom or you talking on a phone or you sitting on a couch watching TV. You can do this exercise to get better and faster at moving you fingers. So that way when I go back to the drum, I can use my fingers to dribble the stick instead of trying to play that with my wrist. And you'll see it all the time with drummers. If you are using the traditional grip, there are so many different variations on how teachers teach the traditional grip we are not really getting into whole out there, but you can wind up using the first finger, the index finger, and the thumb to dribble the stick. So instead of this type of motion, where the back fingers are pushing the stick into the palm and hand, we'll have this kind of motion. I can use my thumb and it pushes the stick down on each stroke or I can use my first finger, depending on the speed that I'm going. A lot of times at this tempo what I like to have my students do is sixteen on a hand, just because it lasts a little bit longer and they get a more finger action out of it. So this is sixteen on a hand, Ñêàæèòå åñëè çàìåòèòå îøèáêó. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 05.02.2005 07:47 |
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Íàðîä! à êàê åòî ìîíî ñåáå ïðèîáðåñòè !!! î÷åíü õî÷åòñÿ ! ìîæåò êòî íèòü çàðåæåò! çà áàëàáîñû !!! ïëèçÇ! ïîçâîíèòå èëè ìåñó êèíüòå ! 8 926 265 92 30 |
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 05.02.2005 12:36 |
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CMEX, â íà÷àëå òîïèêà ïðèâåäåíà ññûëêà | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 05.02.2005 14:32 |
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Åñòü åùå âàðèàíò ñäåëàòü ñóáòèòðû! Ò.ê. íå õî÷ó ñëóøàòü çâóê èñïîð÷åííûé ïåðåâîäîì
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 05.02.2005 14:46 |
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Õîòÿ òàì mov... Äîâîëüíî ñëîæíî áóäåò èõ ïîäêëþ÷èòü. Äà è çâóêîâóþ äîðîæêó òîæå. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 05.02.2005 16:05 |
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> Åñòü åùå âàðèàíò ñäåëàòü ñóáòèòðû! Ò.ê. íå õî÷ó ñëóøàòü çâóê èñïîð÷åííûé ïåðåâîäîì  ïðèíöèïå, ÿ ãðîìêîñòü îðèãèíàëüíîãî çâóêà íå çàãëóøàë åñëè òû çàìåòèë ýòî. Ïðîñòî íàëîæèë ñâîé ãîëîñ â Cool Edit Pro, íî îí ó ìåíÿ íîðìàëèçîâàííûé äî 98% ïîýòîìó çâó÷èò ãðîì÷å. À íàñ÷åò ñóáòèòðîâ - ñäåëàåøü? ß òåáå ïîñëåäíþþ âåðñèþ ðóññêîãî òåêñòà äàì, ñêîðî âòîðîé ðîëèê ïåðåâîäèòü çàêîí÷ó. > Õîòÿ òàì mov... Äîâîëüíî ñëîæíî áóäåò èõ ïîäêëþ÷èòü. Äà è çâóêîâóþ äîðîæêó òîæå Äà íåò ïðîáëåì mov â avi ïåðåâåñòè. ß äàæå íà Video CD â mpeg ïèñàë, êîãäà ýòè ðîëèêè ïîêàçûâàë Èäðèñó Ôèäàåâè÷ó ÷åðåç òåëåâèçîð íà ñòàöèîíàðå. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 06.02.2005 06:15 |
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Ñëóõ - à åùå ñïðîñèòü õîòåë - ó òåáÿ ñàéòû http://drumbum.com/ è http://store.drumbum.com/ (http://store.drumbum.com/drums) íå ñîõðàíåíû? òû á òàì ïîëàçèë - â ÷àñíîñòè âñå íà ÷òî ññûëêàåòñÿ http://drumbum.com/lessons/ -Ìåãà-ìíîãî âñÿêîé èíôû!
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 06.02.2005 21:38 |
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Âîò ïåðåâîä 2-ãî ðîëèêà, ïðî âîñüìåðêè. http://cp.people.overclockers.ru/cgi-bin/dl.pl?id=4766&filename=01_-_Rebound.mp3 1,5 Ìá Çàöåíèòå. Ìï3-øêó çàïóñêàéòå âìåñòå ñ âèäåîïëååðîì. Ãëóøèòü ïëååð íå íàäî (èíà÷å íå áóäåò çâóêà ïàëî÷åê). |
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Òåìà: Re: Âèäåîøêîëû Vic Firth ïî óäàðíûì íà DVD
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2005 22:40 |
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ß òàê ïîíèìàþ òåìà íå îñîáî èíòåðåñíà? | |
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