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Òåìà: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 11:56 |
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Èíòåðåñíî, êòî-íèáóäü íà ôîðóìå èãðàåò äðîáè òðîéêàìè? Ïîä äðîáÿìè ìîæíî ïîíèìàòü 32-å òðèîëè èëè 16-å â äîñòàòî÷íî áûñòðîì òåìïå (>120). | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 17:16 |
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Óñèïóñè ÍÓ!!! ÀÊÀÃ!!!
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"...÷¸ðíàÿ èêðà è ã0âíî ìàæóòñÿ íà õëåá îäèíàêîâî."(ñ) ïðîôåññîð Âèøíåâñêèé
"ß ëþáëþ ïèòü è áûòü ïîñòîÿííî ïüÿíûì..." (ñ) Î.Îñáîðí. "ß íå öåëêîâûé, ÷òîáû âñåì íðàâèòüñÿ" (ñ) Â. Ìàÿêîâñêèé "Òàêèì ëþäÿì ìåñòî - ïîä çåìë¸é!" (ñ) Ð. Êàäûðîâ |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 18:31 |
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Âîïðîñ- çà÷åì? Ëó÷øå ïðîñòî èãðàòü ïî òðè, ïî ÷èòûðå, ïî ïÿòü... óäàðîâ êàæäîé ðóêîé, ýòî òðåíèðîâêà ïàëüöåâ( ïî Âåêëó). À òàê ÷òîá 32, íàâðÿòëè... |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 19:03 |
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Óñèïóñè ÍÓ!!! ÀÊÀÃ!!!
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"...÷¸ðíàÿ èêðà è ã0âíî ìàæóòñÿ íà õëåá îäèíàêîâî."(ñ) ïðîôåññîð Âèøíåâñêèé
"ß ëþáëþ ïèòü è áûòü ïîñòîÿííî ïüÿíûì..." (ñ) Î.Îñáîðí. "ß íå öåëêîâûé, ÷òîáû âñåì íðàâèòüñÿ" (ñ) Â. Ìàÿêîâñêèé "Òàêèì ëþäÿì ìåñòî - ïîä çåìë¸é!" (ñ) Ð. Êàäûðîâ |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 19:37 |
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ß èãðàþ â òåìïå 108 bpm 32-å òðèîëè èñïîëüçóÿ òðîéíóþ äðîáü. (Triple Stroke Roll). | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 19:38 |
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Ìîñêâà Sonor, Yamaha, Ayotte, Pearl, Sabian, Zildjian, Masterwork, etc. 
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Ïî÷åìó íå 110? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 19:40 |
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120 - áûñòðûé òåìï?! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 19:46 |
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 ìåòðîíîìå 108 îòìåòêà, ÿ ïðîñòî ñåé÷àñ ïðîâåðèë, ìîæíî è ïîáûñòðåå, ÿ íèêîãäà îá ýòîì íå äóìàë. Õîðîøî ýòî äëÿ ïàëüöåâ, è êîãäà áðåéêè ñ ôëýìàìè èãðàåøü ïî òîìàì. | |
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
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Òåìà: Âàøå ìíåíèå: Âåíäåòòà…ýòî ïðåñòóïëåíèå èëè àêò ñïðàâåäëèâîñòè?
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 20:03 |
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Çàãîëîâîê âèäåëè íó âîò è ÷óäíåíüêî, à òåïåðü äðóçüÿ äàâàéòå áûñòðî áûñòðî(Ëó÷èêà áû ñêàçàëà íà ìîåì ìåñòå øíåëü îíà ó íàñ íåìêà)...íó ýòî òàê ê ñëîâó, ÿ âðîäå âñå ñêàçàëà...æäó Âàøèõ ìíåíèé. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 20:08 |
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Ìîäåðàòîðàì êàê ÿ ïîíÿë òóò áåç ðàáîòû íå îñòàòüñÿ.....êàê æå íàäîåëè áåññìûñëåííûå ïîñòû. | |
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 20:30 |
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èëè ÿ ÷åãî òî íå äîãîíÿþ... ÿ èãðàþ Triple stroke roll â òåìïå 130 íà ëåãêå! è âðîäå íå òàê óæ åòî è áûñòðî... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 20:36 |
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Êâàðòèðà, øåñòíàäöàòûìè èëè òðèäöàòü âòîðûìè? Ðå÷ü øëà î 32-õ. | |
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 20:42 |
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áëèí ÿ åñ÷î î÷åíü ïóòàþñü â åòèõ èçìåðåíèÿõ! âîáñ÷åì âðóáàþ ìåòðîíîì íà 130 óäàðîâ â ìèíóòó è çà îäèí ïèê äåëàþ 3 óäàðà! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 20:57 |
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vsjo ponel! poluchaetsha 1/16!  shas posmotrju kak naschot 1/32 pri 120 bmp
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 21:04 |
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âîáñ÷åìåì 1/32 ìîãó ïîêà ÷òî òîêà ãäå òî ïðè 85 áïì! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 21:19 |
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ÀÃÀ!!! | |
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 21:28 |
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ß òóò â Logic áûñòðåíüêî íàêèäàë ïðèìåð, ÷òîáû âîïðîñîâ áûëî ìåíüøå. Áîëüøîé áàðàáàí îòìå÷àåò ÷åòâåðòíûå äîëè, êîòîðûå ïðèõîäÿòñÿ íà ïåðâûé óäàð ìåòðîíîìà. Èãðàòü áîëüøèì ñîîòâåòñòâåííî íå íàäî. Ýòî äëÿ ñïðàâêè òîëüêî. Óäà÷è. Ñîîáùàéòå î ðåçóëüòàòàõ. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 21:51 |
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Premier Zildjian
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Àïïëèêàòóðó çàáûë ïîñòàâèòü, òàê ëó÷øå. | |
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"There are only two races on this planet - the intelligent and the stupid."
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 11.03.2005 23:56 |
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>120 - áûñòðûé òåìï?! Äëÿ 32-õ òðèîëåé - î÷åíü. Âîò ïîñëóøàé êàê çâó÷àò 32-å òðèîëè â òåìïå 120. http://cp.people.overclockers.ru/cgi-bin/dl.pl?id=5297&filename=120.mid âûñøèé ïèëîòàæ, ðîâíî 24 íîòû â ñåêóíäó. Çâó÷èò ïî÷òè êàê Buzz roll. Ñäàåòñÿ ìíå äàæå, ÷òî ÿ ïëàíêó ñèëüíî çàâûñèë, äëÿ èãðû 32-õ òðèîëåé î÷åíü áûñòðûì òåìïîì ÿâëÿåòñÿ óæå âñå ÷òî âûøå 100 bpm. > áëèí ÿ åñ÷î î÷åíü ïóòàþñü â åòèõ èçìåðåíèÿõ! âîáñ÷åì âðóáàþ ìåòðîíîì íà 130 óäàðîâ â ìèíóòó è çà îäèí ïèê äåëàþ 3 óäàðà! òû èãðàåøü 8-å òðèîëè. 32-å â 4 ðàçà áûñòðåå. > âîáñ÷åìåì 1/32 ìîãó ïîêà ÷òî òîêà ãäå òî ïðè 85 áïì! ÷òî-òî ñîìíèòåëüíî, åñëè ÷åñòíî.. ýòî óðîâåíü Âåêëà, åñëè íå âûøå.. âîò êàê çâó÷àò 32-å òðèîëè â 85: http://cp.people.overclockers.ru/cgi-bin/dl.pl?id=5298&filename=85.mid Íî âîîáùå-òî íå ýòî èíòåðåñíî, à òî ÷òî ÷òî ïðàêòèêóåò êòî-íèáóäü "òðîéêè" â äðîáÿõ èëè íåò? Èíòåðåñíî, Âåêë èãðàåò 32-å òðèîëè òðîéêàìè èëè îäèíî÷íûìè? |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 12.03.2005 01:54 |
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åñëè â ýòîì èíòåðåñ, òî... íó, äà... â ïðèíöèïå, íå çíàþ êàê äðóãèå, íî ÿ ïðàêòèêóþ, ïî÷òè êàæäûé äåíü... ïîòîìó ÷òî ýòî î÷åíü ïðèêîëüíî (ìîæíî ñêàçàòü, íåîáû÷íî, íå ðîêîâî)... ïðàâäà, ïîëó÷àåòñÿ î÷åíü ìåäëåííî, íó, íè ÷å, ñêîðîñòü íàðàñòåò ñî âðåìåíåì... è âîîáùå, ÿ ïîíÿë, ÷òî ýòî î÷åíü ïîëåçíîå óïðàæåíåíèå, òàê äâîéêè è òðîéêè - ýòî ðàçíûå ïóòè ðàáîòû ìûøö! àáñîëþòíî! |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 12.03.2005 02:08 |
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ïî ïîâîäó âåéêëà.. åñëè ïîäóìàòü ëîãè÷åñêè, ÷òî ñêîðåå âñåãî, ÷òî òðîéêàìè, ïîòîìó ÷òî ó ýòîãî ÷åëîâåêà î÷åíü ðàçâèòûå òóêè, òåì áîëåå (êàê ìíå êàæåòñÿ) íà îäèíî÷êè óõîäèò áîëüøå ýíåðãèè ðóê, ÷åì íà ðîëë | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 12.03.2005 09:19 |
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Îêàçûâàåòñÿ ÿ óæå äðîáü òðîéêàìè íà âèäåî çàïèñàë. Âîò ññûëêà, âèäåî ðàçìåðîì âñåãî 579êá. http://www.drumlessons.fcpages.com/vids/triplestrokes.WMV |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 12.03.2005 14:40 |
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Ìàêñèìêà ðàñëàáñÿ ! ÿ âñå ïðàâèëüíî ïîñ÷èòàë è ñ ïîìîøüþ New Yorker'a óáåäèëñÿ â åòîì. çà îäèí ñòóê ìåòðàíîìà 6 óäàðîâ. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 13.03.2005 22:52 |
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â òåìïå 100 16-å òðèîëè ïîëó÷àþòñÿ | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 13.03.2005 23:03 |
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Ñêâîçíÿê, ìîëîäåö. Ïîáåãó çàíèìàòüñÿ, à òî ìîëîäûå íà ïÿòêè íàñòóïàþò.
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 14.03.2005 02:03 |
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>Ìàêñèìêà ðàñëàáñÿ ! ÿ âñå ïðàâèëüíî ïîñ÷èòàë è ñ ïîìîøüþ New Yorker'a óáåäèëñÿ â åòîì. çà îäèí ñòóê ìåòðàíîìà 6 óäàðîâ.  òîì òî è äåëî ÷òî íåò - çà îäèí òèê ìåòðîíîìà 12 óäàðîâ. Íå ïóòàé 32-å òðèîëè ñ 16-è > â òåìïå 100 16-å òðèîëè ïîëó÷àþòñÿ Ñêâî, à âîîáùå èíòåðåñíî óçíàòü òâîé ìàêñèìóì... Íà êàêîì òåáå óäàåòñÿ èãðàòü ðîâíî 32-å íà ìàëîì, ñêàæåì, íó õîòÿ áû 4 òàêòà ïîäðÿä? ó ìåíÿ - 80 bpm, 90 - óæå íà÷èíàþ ñáèâàòüñÿ.. |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 14.03.2005 02:15 |
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ÿ ãîâîðþ ðàçóìååòñÿ íå ïðî òðèîëè à ïðî îáû÷íûå 32-å | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 14.03.2005 22:14 |
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> Íà êàêîì òåáå óäàåòñÿ èãðàòü ðîâíî 32-å íà ìàëîì, ñêàæåì, íó õîòÿ áû 4 òàêòà ïîäðÿä? ó ìåíÿ - 80 bpm, 90 - óæå íà÷èíàþ ñáèâàòüñÿ.. òû çíàåøü, ó ìåíÿ íå òàêîé ïîäõîä, ÿ åñëè èãðàþ, òî ìîãó èãðàòü äîëãî, à åñëè íåò, òî è òàêòà íå ìîãó 32-å - â êàêîé àïïëèêàòóðå ñìîòðÿ. îäèíî÷íûìè îäèí òåìï áóäåò, äâîéêàìè äðóãîé, single ïàðàäèääëàìè òðåòèé. ïîïîçæå ïîìåðÿþ, ñêàæó.offtop: åñòü êíèæêà â ïäô, àíàëèç ñòèëÿ Ëàðñà Óëüðèõà ñ ïðèìåðàìè. åñëè òåáå (äà è åùå ìîæåò êîìó íàäî), ìîãó âûëîæèòü. |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 14.03.2005 23:28 |
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http://cp.people.overclockers.ru/cgi-bin/dl.pl?id=5297&filename=120.mid Êðèâîâàòî êàê-òî... |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 15.03.2005 01:19 |
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÷òî òè ìîçãè åáîø? âîò åòî 1/32... ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 15.03.2005 01:24 |
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êâàðòèðà, òû áû êíèæêó êàêóþ ïî íîòíîé ãðàìîòå ïî÷èòàë, ïðåæäå ÷åì ìàòåðèòüñÿ, ïðàâî ñëîâî... 32-õ íîò â ÷åòâåðòè 8, 32-õ òðèîëåé - 12. Éîðêåð 16-å òðèîëè íàðèñîâàë. ó âîñüìûõ îäíà ïåðåêëàäèíà, ó 16-õ - 2, ó 32-õ - òðè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 15.03.2005 01:28 |
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Âñå ïîòóïèë , ïîíåë îøèáêó, èçâåíèëñÿ è ïîøîë ñïàòü. No smoking no more!
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 15.03.2005 01:42 |
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Âîò Ñêâîçíÿê ìîëîäåö, âñåãäà ïî äåëó ãîâîðèò, íå ðóãàåòñÿ, è ïîçèòèâíî íàñòðîåí. È çíàåò íîòíóþ ãðàìîòó êàê âèäíî, óâàæàþ óìíûõ, ñïîêîéíûõ, óðàâíîâåøåííûõ ëþäåé. (Ñêâîçíÿê, íå íàäî ìíå ãîâîðèòü ÷òî òû èíîãäà íå òàêîé, ÿ è òàê çíàþ, ÿ â îáùåì)
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 15.03.2005 01:56 |
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>òû çíàåøü, ó ìåíÿ íå òàêîé ïîäõîä, ÿ åñëè èãðàþ, òî ìîãó èãðàòü äîëãî, à åñëè íåò, òî è òàêòà íå ìîãó Ïðàâèëüíûé ïîäõîä, ïðåïîäàâàòåëüñêèé. Íî íåáîëüøîå êîëè÷åñòâî íîò (ñêàæåì, 4 32-å + 1 8-ÿ íà ìàëîì) îáû÷íî ìîæíî èãðàòü â áîëüøîì òåìïå (ïðè÷åì çàìåòíî) ÷åì íåñêîëüêî òàêòîâ ïîäðÿä. Ïîýòîìó ÿ óïîìÿíóë îá ýòîì íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé.>32-å - â êàêîé àïïëèêàòóðå ñìîòðÿ. îäèíî÷íûìè îäèí òåìï áóäåò, äâîéêàìè äðóãîé, single ïàðàäèääëàìè òðåòèé. ïîïîçæå ïîìåðÿþ, ñêàæó. Âñå âàðèàíòû èíòåðåñíû. Íî ÿ èìåë âèäó, êîíå÷íî, îäèíî÷íûå. Ýòî íàèáîëåå "êðàñèâûé" âàðèàíò - äâîéêè è ïàðàäèäëû óæå êàê-òî íå òî, íå òîò çâóê. Êñòàòè íå çíàþ êàê ó òåáÿ, íî ó ìåíÿ ïàðàäèäëû íà áîëüøèõ ñêîðîñòÿõ åùå è íà÷èíàþò ãðåøèòü òåì ÷òî ïåðâûå 2 íîòû èãðàþòñÿ ÷óòü áûñòðåå âòîðûõ 2 íîò (òå ÷òî íà äâîéêó ïðèõîäÿòñÿ), òàê êàê èõ èãðàòü ïðîùå. Ïîëó÷àþòñÿ íå ðîâíûå 16-å èëè 32-å, à íå÷òî "ñâîåîáðàçíîå" ñ íå÷åòêîé ðèòìèêîé. Ñòàë çà ýòèì ñëåäèòü. Ïîíàáëþäàé êñòàòè, ó òåáÿ íåò òàêîãî æå ýôôåêòà? Áûëî áû íåïëîõî ïðÿìî ôàéë âûëîæèòü è ïîñëóøàòü (òîëüêî íå íà ìàëîì - òàì ýõî ïîäñòðóííèêà ìàñêèðóåò íåäîñòàòêè - à íà ïýäå). >offtop: åñòü êíèæêà â ïäô, àíàëèç ñòèëÿ Ëàðñà Óëüðèõà ñ ïðèìåðàìè. åñëè òåáå (äà è åùå ìîæåò êîìó íàäî), ìîãó âûëîæèòü. Êîíå÷íîíàäî! Î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî. Ãäå äîñòàë (åñëè âûëîæèòü íå ñìîæåøü - ñàì êà÷íó)? >÷òî òè ìîçãè åáîø? âîò åòî 1/32... ? Íåò, ýòî 16-å òðèîëè. Ãäå òû âîîáùå íà ýòîé êàðòèíêå 32 íàñ÷èòàë? 
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
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íà îøèáêàõ ó÷àòñÿ, à íà ÷óæûõ òàê âîáñ÷å, êàê ïî ìàñëó! Íó ÷òî áîëüøîìó äúàäüêå òåïåðü áóäåò ïîâîä ïîñûïàòü ñîëè íà ðàíó...
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 15.03.2005 03:12 |
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new yorker, êëàññíîå âèäåî! õîðîøåå èñïîëíåíèå | |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 15.03.2005 09:38 |
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ok, çàïèøó íà ïýäå âñå âàðèàíòû. >Ïîëó÷àþòñÿ íå ðîâíûå 16-å èëè 32-å, à íå÷òî "ñâîåîáðàçíîå" ñ íå÷åòêîé ðèòìèêîé. íåò, ó ìåíÿ òàêîãî íåò, òüôó-òüôó. >ñêàæåì, 4 32-å + 1 8-ÿ íà ìàëîì ýòî ðàôôû, èõ ìîæíî âîîîáùå â áåçóìíûõ òåìïàõ èãðàòü. íî ýòî äåéòâèòåëüíî 5-6 óäàðîâ ïîäðÿä, íà áîëüøåå óæå íå õâàòèò. >Ñêâîçíÿê, íå íàäî ìíå ãîâîðèòü ÷òî òû èíîãäà íå òàêîé, ÿ è òàê çíàþ, ÿ â îáùåì âñå ìû íå áåç íåäîñòàòêîâ
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 15.03.2005 15:07 |
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>ýòî ðàôôû, èõ ìîæíî âîîîáùå â áåçóìíûõ òåìïàõ èãðàòü. íî ýòî äåéòâèòåëüíî 5-6 óäàðîâ ïîäðÿä, íà áîëüøåå óæå íå õâàòèò. Õì.. à 8 32-õ íà 1 äîëþ ðàôôîì ìîæíî ñ÷èòàòü? èõ âåäü òîæå ïðîùå ñûãðàòü ÷åì íåñêîëüêî äîëåé ïîäðÿä.. è ïîòîì, ðàôô (ruff) - ýòî ðàçâå íå èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî äâîéíûå ôîðøëàãè? |
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Òåìà: Re: Triple stroke roll
Âðåìÿ: 15.03.2005 19:57 |
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Mendizabal, ñïàñèáî, íî ýòî óïðàæíåíèå î÷åíü õîðîøî äëÿ ïàëüöåâ è êèñòåé, êàê îäèíî÷íûå. Ïîòîì êîãäà ÿ ìíîãî øàôôëîâ òóò íàèãðàëñÿ, ÿ ïîíÿë êàê ýòî âàæíî. Îíî è íåòðóäíîå, ÿ ïðàâäà áûñòðåå íå ïûòàëñÿ èãðàòü, íî íàäî ïîçàíèìàòüñÿ ýòèì. | |
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