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Òåìà: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Âîò, ïðî÷èòàéòå Take a pebble. Just take a pebble and cast it to the sea, Then watch the ripples that unfold into me, My face spill so gently into your eyes, Disturbing the waters of our lives. Shread of our memories are lying on your grass; Wounded words of laughter are graveyards of the past. Photographs are grey and torn, scattered in your fields Letters of your mem'ries are not real. Sadness on your shoulders like a wornout overcoat In pockets creased and tattered hang the rags of your hope. The daybreak is your midnight; the colours have all died. Disturbing the waters of our lives, of our lives, of our lives, lives, lives, lives... Of our lives. ß äóìàþ, ÷òî ýòî ïðîèçâåäåíèå, âîïëîù¸ííîå â êîìïîçèöèè "Take a Pebble", âîïëîùàåò â ñåáå âñþ ãëóáèãó è ïîëíîòó âîïðîñîâ ìèðîçäàíèÿ 1)Çà÷åì ìû æèâ¸ì? 2)Êòî ìû òàêèå? 3)×òî ìû ìîæåì äåëàòü? È òàê äàëåå. Äàâàéòå îáñóäèì ýòó êîìïîçèöèþ, à òàêæå ïîðàññóæäàåì î äðóãèõ ïðîèçâåäåíèÿõ ãðóïïû Emerson,Lake&Palmer. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 17:49 |
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Emerson,Lake&Palmer - ðóëåçç!!! | |
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Ãðîìêî - çíà÷èò õîðîøî! (ñ)Íåçíàéêà
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 17:53 |
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ß ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî íåî-êëàññè÷åñêèå è êëàññè÷åñêèå ìîòèâû ïðèñóòñòâóþò ïî÷òè â êàæäîé êîìïîçèöèè Emerson, Lake & Palmer. Äóìàþ, ÷òî àïîãååì ýòîãî ñòàë êîíöåðò Pictures at an Exhibition. Ïðî "Take A Pebble": ÿ ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî ïåñíÿ äåéñòâèòåëüíî ñèìâîëè÷åíà è íîñèò ôèëîñîôñêèé õàðàêòåð. Îñîáåííî ïîðàæàåò ñòðî÷êà "Wounded words of laughter are graveyards of the past",íåñîìíåííî ãîâîðÿùàÿ î ïðèçûâå çàäóìàòüñÿ íàä ñìûñëîì ñâîåé æèçíè â òàêîé æå ìåðå, êàê è î âûñîêîé îáðàçîâàííîñòè àâòîðà ñòèõîâ:D Åñëè ÿ íå îøèáàþñü, èõ àâòîð - Ïèòåð Ñèíôèëä, ðàíåå ðàáîòàâøèé ñ King Crimson. Òîëüêî åãî Ôðèïï ïîïðîñèë. 
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Îöåíèòå îáøèðíîñòü ñòðîê Shread of our memories are lying on your grass... Wounded words of laughter are graveyards of the past. Âîçìîæíî, ýòî çíà÷èò, ÷òî ìû çàáûâàåì î ñâî¸ì ïðîøëîì, ÷òî ìû íàñìåõàåìñÿ íàä ñàìèìè ñîáîé, è ÷òî ñîâåðøåííî íå ïîíèìàåì ýòîãî? |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 18:07 |
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ß ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî ñîâåðøåííî íå âàæíî, êòî ïîïðîñèë íàïèñàòü ýòè ñòèõè.  ÷àñòíîñòè, íàâåðíîå, íå èìååò çíà÷åíèÿ äàæå ÊÒÎ èõ íàïèñàë. Ãëàâíîå ×ÒÎ ýòîò ÷åëîâåê ñìîã íàïèñàòü è äîíåñòè òî øèðîêîé ìàññû ëþäåé, çàñòàâèâ èõ ÐÀÇÌÛØËßÒÜ. À ýòî âåäü íåìàëîâàæíî, òàê êàê ðàçìûøëÿÿ, ÷åëîâåê ðàçâèâàåòñÿ ìîðàëüíî. ß äóìàþ, ÷òî òâîð÷åñòâî êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer-ýòî ïèùà äëÿ íàøåãî óìà. À òàêèå êîìïîçèöèè, êàê Promenade, Tarkus, Barbarian è ìíîãèå äðóãèå-åù¸ è çàðÿä äëÿ íàøèõ ÷óâñòâ. Ïîýòîìó ELP ïèòàþò íàñ, çà ÷òî ÿ èì õî÷ó âûðàçèòü ñëîâà áëàãîäàðíîñòè... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Ìíå èíòåðåñíî, ÷òî èìåííî ïîäðàçóìåâàåòñÿ ïîä "our" è "your"... Âîçìîæíî ýòî ïðîòèâîïîñòàâëåíèå ñåáÿ æåñòîêîìó ìèðó? Ìíå íå âåðèòñÿ ÷òî è ýòà ïåñíÿ òîæå ïðî ëþáîâü... Åñòü ïðåäëîæåíèÿ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 18:09 |
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"Our" è "your" îïèñûâàþò äâå ðàçíûå ñòîðîíû ÷åëîâå÷åñêîé ëè÷íîñòè, ÿ äóìàþ, ñîçèäàòåëüíîé è ðàçðóøàþùåé ñòîðîí. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 18:13 |
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Âðÿä ëè, õîòÿ âîçìîæíî, ÷òî-òî ïðî ôîòîãðàôèè... "Photographs are grey and torn, scattered in your fields Letters of your mem'ries are not real." ×òî ýòî ìîæåò çíà÷èòü? Îïÿòü ýòî "your fields"... Ìîæåò ýòî ïðèçûâ íå ñìîòðåòü â ïðîøëîå, à íàñëàæäàòüñÿ íàñòîÿùèì. Âèäèìî òàê. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 18:13 |
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Îêàçûâàÿ âëèÿíèå íà ðàçâèòèå ìûøëåíèÿ ñâîèõ ñëóøàòåëåé("ïðîñâåùàÿ" èõ, êàê ýòî äåëàëè ñâîèìè íàñûùåííûìè êîìïîçèöèÿìè Áàõ, Øîïåí, Ñòðàâèíñêèé)è âìåñòå ñ ýòèì ñîçäàâàÿ ó íèõ áóðíûé âñïëåñê ýìîöèé, èìåííî ïîýòîìó, ÿ äóìàþ, ýòè ëþäè ïî ïðàâó ìîãóò ñ÷èòàòüñÿ ïðåäñòàâèòåëÿìè íåî-êëàññèöèçìà â ìóçûêàëüíîì òå÷åíèè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 18:15 |
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À ÷òî òû äóìàåøü îá ýòèõ ôîòîãðàôèÿõ, î êîòîðûõ çäåñü óïîìèíàåòñÿ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Ãàíñîâè÷, òû ïðàâ. Íî íóæíî è ïîìíèòü ïðî ïðîøëîå, òîæå. Êòî ïðîøëîå ïîìÿíåò, òîìó ãëàç âîí, à êòî çàáóäåò-òîìó îáà© Íî è íåëüçÿ æèòü òîëüêî íàñòîÿùèì, ñîâñåì íå ñìîòðÿ â áóäóùåå. òàê âåäü íåëüçÿ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Ôîòîãðàôèè, âîçìîæíî, îáðàçû èç ãëóáèí íàøåé ïàìÿòè...íàøè ìå÷òû è æåëàíèÿ, êîòîðûå, åñëè è íå ñìîãëè ñáûòüñÿ â ïðîøëîì, òî îáÿçàòåëüíî ñáóäóòüñÿ â áóäóùåì, íóæíî òîëüêî íå ìíîãî ïîäîæäàòü â ýòîì ñàìîì íàñòîÿùåì, è âåðèòü, âåðèòü â òî, ÷òî òî, î ÷¸ì ìû ìå÷òàåì îáÿçàòåëüíî ñáóäåòñÿ. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Òåìó ïðîøëîãî ïîäíèìàë åù¸ Ñòèâè Âàíäåð "We are spending most of life living in the pasttime paradise" È âåäü ýòî ïðàâäà. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Êñòàòè Stevie Wonder ñåé÷àñ âûïóñòèò íîâûé àëüáîì. Èíòåðåñíî. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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×òî-íèáóäü èçâåñòíî åù¸ ïðî ýòîò àëüáîì? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Íåò. Íî â ïåðåäà÷å ïåðåäà÷å ãîâîðèëè, ÷îò îôèöèàëüíûé ðåëèç â ñåðåäèíå èþëÿ. Âèäåë îáðûâî÷êè åãî íâîãî êëèïà-çàíÿòíî. Çàæèãàòåëüíîñüò ñèâè íå ïîòåðÿë. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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À ãîëîñ êàê? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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îïå÷àòêà çàæèãàòåëüíîñüòü Ñòèâè | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Òû çíàåøü, ãîëîñ íå õóæå, ÷åì áûëî. Î÷åíü ïîíðàâèëîñü. Íóæíî áóäåò ïðèîáðåñòè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Íàäî áóäåò íà ôîðóìå âîêàëèñòîâ ïîñèäåòü, òàì Ñòèâè íåáîñü îïóñêàþò íà âñþ | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Òîïèê óø¸ë â îôôòîïèê, âèäèìî, êñòàòè êðîìå íàñ è usr çäåñü íèêòî íå ñëûøàë ïðî Emerson, Lake & Palmer. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 18:39 |
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Äà...îáèäíî. Ïîäîæä¸ì, êòî åù¸ ÷åãî ñêàæåò. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Äà, ÿ äóìàþ ìû òóò îäíè òàêèå
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Íå õî÷åòñÿ â ýòî âåðèòü. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Âñå óåõàëè ê Áîáðîâñêîìó!!! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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éîóïíóëñÿ, ë¸ã è ïîìåð =) | |
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"Âðîäå, ñ âèäó òàêîé êðóòîé, à äåâ÷îíêè âñ¸ âðåìÿ ðàçíûå... íàâåðíîå, óäåðæàòü íèêîãî íå ìîæåò" (ñ)
"Åñëè Âû ñáèâàåòåñü ñ ðèòìà íà ïåðåõîäå - íå ïàðüòåñü, íå ïûòàéòåñü îòòî÷èòü, ó âàñ âñ¸ ðàâíî íè÷åãî íå âûéäåò" (ñ) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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à âû ñëûøàëè äðàììèíã Ôèëëèïñà è Ïîðíîãî â òðèáüþòå Åìåðñîíó, Ëýéêó è Ïàëìåðó? êàê âàì? |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
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Nimada, íåò, íå ñëûøàëè. À ó òåáÿ åñòü? Ìîæåøü îòîñëàòü? Èëè ïîäñêàæè, ïîæàëóéñòà, ãäå äîñòàòü. Ìåíÿ çàèíòåðåñîâàëî. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2005 23:04 |
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ìíå îäèí çíàêîìûé âêëþ÷àë ýòîò òðèáüþò äîìà... äàâíî äåëî áûëî.ùàñ ìû ñ íèì íèàïùàèìñÿ |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2005 09:26 |
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Ïîíÿòíî. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2005 14:52 |
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Odessa ÓäÀðÍûÅ 
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Î÷åíü ëþáëþ ýòó ãðóïïó. Ïàëìåð - îäèí èç 2-õ ìîèõ ëþáèìûõ óäàðíèêîâ, à Ýìåðñîí - ëó÷øèé êëàâèøíèê â ðîêå. ÈÌÕÎ. Íî ôèëîñîâñòâîâàòü ÷¸-ò íå õîööà, çâûíÿéòå 
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ß õî÷ó êàê ñëåäóåò îòðâàòüñÿ, ïîêà âåñü ýòîò áàðäàê íå ñãîðåë â ïëàìåíè!
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2005 14:12 |
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TARKUS, à âòîðîé òâîé ëþáèìûé êòî? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 15.06.2005 15:14 |
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Odessa ÓäÀðÍûÅ
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Âòîðîé - Keith Moon. | |
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ß õî÷ó êàê ñëåäóåò îòðâàòüñÿ, ïîêà âåñü ýòîò áàðäàê íå ñãîðåë â ïëàìåíè!
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ êîëëåêòèâà Emerson, Lake&Palmer â òåíäåíöèè ê íåî-êëàññèöèçìó
Âðåìÿ: 15.06.2005 15:19 |
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Íó òû êðóòîé... | |
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