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Êàê ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ýòî òå áàðàáàíùèêè, êîòîðûå èñïîëüçóþò â ñâîåé èãðå ïàðàäèäëû. Òàê ëè ýòî? Èìåþòñÿ ââèäó êàêèå-òî ñëîæíûå ïàðàäèäëû, èëè ÷òî áû ñ÷èòàòüñÿ "ðóäèìåíòàëèñòîì" äîñòàòî÷íî èñïîëüçîâàòü ïðîñòî, ëþáûå ïàðàäèäëû? è ïðèâåäèòå ïîæàéëóñòà ïðèìåð ðóäèìåíòàëèñòîâ è ÍÅ ðóäèìåíòàëèñòîâ. ñïàñèáî |
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äëÿ íà÷àëà ñêàæè, ÷òî òû íàçûâàåøü ïàðàäèääëîì | |
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Òåõíèêà-ýòî íå áûñòðîòà è ÷åòêîñòü,ýòî óìåíèå ñûãðàòü âñå òî,î ÷åì äóìàåøü.
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Canon ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() âîò ÿ ëîõ. ÿ äóìàë ýòî âåùè òîæäåñòâåííûå... êîðî÷å, òîãäà òàê. âîò íàòêíóëñÿ â ïîèñêå íà òàêèå êðàñèâûå ñëîâà : Òðèïëåòû, Äèäëû, Ïàðàäèäëû, Ðîëëû, Ðàôû, Ôëýìû. â ÷åì ðàçíèöà? ![]() |
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âîò íàïðèìåð. ÷àùå âñåãî áàðàáàíùèêîâ äåëÿòü íà drumset äðàììåðîâ è ðóäèìåíòàëüíûõ, êîèå â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü äåëÿòñÿ íà snare è tenor. ÿñíîå äåëî, ÷òî èãðàÿ íà óñòàíîâêå òû ìîæåøü 60 ëåò èãðàòü áàçîâûé ðîê áèò è áûòü äîâîëüíûì æèçíüþ, íî èìåÿ â ðàñïîðÿæåíèè òîëüêî 1 áàðàáàí, äóìàþ âàðèàíò ñ ðîê áèòîì íå ïîêàòèò ![]() ò.å. ñêîðåå âñåãî âîïðîñ íå â òîì êòî ÷òî èãðàåò, à êòî íà ÷åì èãðàåò. ýòî âîò ìîå ìíåíèå. |
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õì... åñëè âêðàòöå, òî ðóäèìåíòû - ýòî êîìáèíàöèè îäèíî÷íûõ óäàðîâ, äâîåê è ôëýìîâ. êàê áû ñàìàÿ ïåðâàÿ íàäñòðîéêà íàä áàçîâîé òåõíèêîé, åñëè ñ÷èòàòü óäàðû áóêâàìè, òî ðóäèìåíòû - ýòî ñëîãè, èëè äàæå ñëîâà. ñàìûå áàçîâûå - ýòî 26 ñòàíäàðòíûõ ðóäèìåíòîâ NARD, íà íèõ ïîñòðîåíû òðàäèöèîííûå àìåðèêàíñêèå ìàðøè. ðàçóìååòñÿ, åñòü è ìàññà äðóãèõ, è â ïðèíöèïå, ëþáîé ÷åëîâåê ìîæåò ïðèäóìàòü ñâîè ðóäèìåíòû. ðóäèìåíòàëèñòàìè íàçûâàþò áàðàáàíùèêîâ, êîòîðûå çàíèìàþòñÿ ðóäèìåíòàìè, ìàðøåâîé ìóçûêîé, â ÷àñòíîñòè. âîîáùå, íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïðåäñòàâëÿþ, òåðìèí ââåäåí äëÿ îòäåëåíèÿ îò áàðàáàíùèêîâ, êîòîðûå íå ïðèäàþò çíà÷åíèÿ àïïëèêàòóðå. íþàíñîâ ìíîãî, â îáùåì, ÿ íàâåðíîå íå ìîãó ñòîïðîöåíòíî ïðàâèëüíûé îòâåò äàòü íà ýòó òåìó. áàçîâûå ðóäèìåíòû (40) â ðåäàêöèè PASIC ìîæíî òóò ïîñìîòðåòü. www.pas.org à âîò ñàéò Ðèêà Áåêýìà, ïîñâÿùåííûé ðóäèìåíòàëüíîìó äðàììèíãó www.rudimentaldrumming.com |
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à åñëè îí power íà snare èãðàåò, êàê áûòü? | |
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ÿ èìåþ ââèäó òî,÷òî äàæå åñëè òû çàìå÷àòåëüíî âëàäååøü ðóäèìåíòàëüíîé òåõíèêîé, íî èãðàåøü íà óñòàíîâêå ( âîçüìåì êîëàþòó íàïðèìåð) âðÿä ëè òåáÿ ìîæíî íàçâàòü ðóäèìåíòàëüíûì áàðàáàíùèêîì. | |
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ïðèñòðåëèòü, ÷òîá íå ìó÷àëñÿ ![]() |
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èëè ñêîðåå íå íà ÷åì, à ãäå è íà ÷åì! | |
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íó êàê ñêàçàòü, åñëè ðóäèìåíòû ïåðåíîñÿòñÿ íà óñòàíîâêó, ýòî òîæå èìååò îòíîøåíèå ê ðóäèìåíòàëüíîìó äðàììèíãó. êëàññè÷åñêèé ïðèìåð - 50 ways to leave your lover. ÿ äóìàþ, ÷òî êðèòåðèé òàêîé - åñëè ÷åëîâåê ñïîñîáåí èãðàòü ðóäèìåíòàëüíûå òåêñòû íà ìàëîì áàðàáàíå, òî îí ðóäèìåíòàëèñò. åñëè íåò - òî íå ðóäèìåíòàëèñò _imho_ ![]() |
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>÷àùå âñåãî áàðàáàíùèêîâ äåëÿòü íà drumset äðàììåðîâ è ðóäèìåíòàëüíûõ, êîèå â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü äåëÿòñÿ íà snare è tenor. â äàííîé êëàññèôèêàöèè íåò îðêåñòðîâûõ åùå áàðàáàíùèêîâ, êîòîðûå òîæå ìîãóò íà ìàëîì èãðàòü. íî îíè ïðè ýòîì íå ïðèäåðæèâàþòñÿ âçãëÿäîâ ðóäèìåíòàëèñòîâ |
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âîò îòðûâîê èç ñòàòüè Êåíà Ìýéçóðà, â ïðèöíèïå, äîâîëüíî ïîíÿòíî èçëîæåíî. A percussionist not knowing rudiments is like a speaker trying to lecture without syllables. The language will be primitive. Rudimental drumming is the building block of all three percussion idioms: rudimental, drum set and orchestral. However, because of the physical, coordinative and mental demands of the art, we "train" more than "practice". Orchestral percussion developed as an accompaniment and tertiary art based on the single stroke roll. Rudimental demands have always been competitive/solo and primarily based on the double stroke roll. Drum set players have learned the techniques needed to perform consistent double stroke rudiments and are now implementing this advantage in many music avenues thinking through four limbs at a time. Rudimental drumming is pure in that its execution involves thought patterns that can't be simplified much further, with stickings that are exact and comparable - hence, the term "rudimental". From single, double and triple strokes on one hand, come combinations by the thousands using two hands - musical mathematics - the creativity of an art form. Rudimental drummers are time painters. We create tension and release with nuances of proportion, volume, accent patterns and their counterpoint, duration, endurance, texture and above all, the perfection of human visual and audio symmetry in a marching section; that symmetry a natural extension of the amphibious evolution of the human skeleton - two hands and arms... two legs and feet. Orchestral percussionists paint with frequency. We are quite different than that idiom and share more of a bond with the four way coordination of the drum set where rudimental styles are more transferable. |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Canon ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ñêâîçíÿê ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå ![]() ê ñîæåëåíèþ àíãëèéñêèì íå âëàäåþ, òàê ÷òî ïîñëåäíåå ñîîáùåíèå íå äÿë ìåíÿ =( |
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ñïàñèáî çà äîïîëíåíèå ![]() ïîèñêàë ÿ â èíòåðíåòå íåìíîãî è ïðèøåë ê âûâîäó ,×òî "ðóäèìåíòàëèñò" - íå òèòóë, à îáðàçíî ãîâîðÿ "ñïåöèàëèçàöèÿ". ò.å. Drumset Marching => Rudimental drummer Orchestral ò.å. òîò æå ðèê áåêåì èãðàåò è íà âïîëíå íàñòîÿùåé óñòàíîâêå, êàê è ëþáîé äðóãîé, ÿ óâåðåí...íî â äàííîé ñèòóàöèè îí ðóäèìåíòàëüíûé äðàììåð... ò.å. åñëè íàïðèìåð ó ìåíÿ åñòü ïðàâà è ÿ ìîãó âîäèòü è òàêñè è êàìàç ñ ùåáíåì. è òàê è òàê - âîäèëà, íî â îäíîì ñëó÷àå òàêñèñò ,à â äðóãîì íåò. âîò òàêèå áîæåñòâåííûé àíàëîãèè ïîñåòèëè ìåíÿ! |
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ñîáùåíèå íàïèñàíî äî ñîîáùåíèÿ ñêâî, ñïàñèáî - âñ¸ ÿñíî ![]() |
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íî âàùå Êëèòð íàâåðíîå ïðàâà â òðàêòîâêå òåðìèíà ðóäèìåíòàëèñò. ![]() |
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íå, Áåêýì íå èãðàåò íà óñòàíîâêå. | |
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ÿ ìóæñêîãî ðîäó! â òîì òî è äåëî, èãðàåò..ùà ïîêàæó... |
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Êëèòð_Ìûëè âïîëíå íàñòîÿùàÿ óñòàíîâêà, ýòî òà, â êîòîðîé áîëüøå 5 áàðàáàíîâ? |
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â îáùåì íà ôîðóìå ÿ åãî êîìåíòàðèè âñðå÷àë ÷àñòî è íà âèäåî, ãäå îí äåìîíñòðèðóåò ðàçëè÷íûå ðóäèìåíòû (â ñåêöèè ãäå îí è ìàçóð) âèäíî â ïðàâîé êîìíàòå ÷àñòü óñòàíîâêè. | |
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íó ìîæåò áûòü ![]() |
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 ìî¸ì ïîíèìàíèè ðóäèìåíòàðíûå áàðàáàíùèêè, ýòî òå, êòî îñíîâíîå âíèìàíèå óäåëÿþò ðóäèìåíòàì, èãðàþò ïðåèìóùåñòâåííî íà ìàëîì áàðàáàíå è ðóêàìè âñÿêèå ñîëî è ìàðøè ïîñòðîåííûå èç ðóäèìåíòîâ. Âîïùå òî ê ðóäèìåíòàðíûì áàðàáàíùèêàì îòíîñèòñÿ Ìàêñ Êëîö. |
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è Áàäè Ðè÷ èç îòöîâ,êàê ìíå êàæåòñÿ,áîëüøèíñòâî ñîëÿêîâ ó íåãî áîëüøåé ÷àñòüþ íà ìàëîì | |
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à ìíå êàæåòñÿ ÷òî âñå áàðàáàíùèêå ðóäèìåíòàðíû òàê êàê áóäóùåå çà ýëåêòðîííîé ìóçûêîé! | |
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Äà òàê è åñòü, ìíå äàæè ïîðîé ñòàíîâèòñÿ îáèäíî è ÿ äóìàþ: " à íà*ðåí òðàòèòü ñòîëüêî âðåìåíè íà çàíÿòèÿ, åñëè äðàììàøèíû ñìîãóòü ñûãðàòü òî, ÷åãî ÷åëîâåê íó íèêàê íå ñûãðàåò". Îñòà¸òñÿ óïîâàòü íà òî, ÷òîáû ïîçæå ïðèäóìàëè èñêóññòâåííûé èíòåëëåêò ïîäñòàòü ÷åëîâå÷åñêîìó, âåäü ïîêà ó íàñ åñòü ïðåèìóùåñòâî ïåðåä äðàììàøèíàìè - ìû ìîæåì èìïðîâèçèðîâàòü! ![]() |
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äðàì ìàøèíà íå ìîæåò èñïîëíèòü ñîëî íà ìàëîì áàðàáàíå, â êîòîðîì áóäóò îòëè÷àòüñÿ ïî çâóêó è ÷óâñòâó àïïëèêàòóðû rlrl, rrrr, llll, rlrr, rlll è ò.ä. ýòè íþàíñû ïðèñóùè òîëüêî ÷åëîâå÷åñêîìó èñïîëíåíèþ | |
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òàê òî îíî òàê, íî âîò áûâàþò ÷óäåñà çàðóáåæíîé ìóçûêàëüíîé ïðîìûøëåííîñòè, âðîäå òîãî æå áèãôàêèí äðàìñ, ÷òî äàëåêî íå ïðåäåë, êîòîðûå ïîðîé òðóäíî îòëè÷èòü îò æèâûõ. íî âåäü ïðåäñòàâüòå îðãÀí, êëàâåñèí èëè ÷òî-íèòü ïîäîáíîå, ìóçûêàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò, êîòîðîûé ïàðó-òðîéêó âåêîâ íàçàä âîñòðåáîâàí è ðàñïðîñòðàíåí, íî ñåé÷àñ, êîãäà â ìàëåíüêèé ñèíòåçàòîð óìåùàåòñÿ öåëûé îðêåñòð, âûøåíàçâàíûå èíñòðóìåíòû ÿâëÿþòñÿ äèêîâèíêîé, â òî âðåìÿ êàê ïëàñòèêîâûå êîðîáî÷êè ñ ðàçíîöâåòíûìè êíîïî÷êàìè êðóãîì è ïîâñþäó...è ïîòîì òà "æèâàÿ è ýìîöèîíàëüíàÿ" ìóçûêà ñïóñòÿ ïàðó âåêîâ áóäåò âîñïðèíèìàòüñÿ òàê æå, êàê ñåé÷àñ âîñïðèíèìàþòñÿ êàêèå-íèòü êëàâåñèííûå ñîíàòû. äà è âîí ïîñìîòðèòå íà çàâîäíîãî äåéâà èëè âàñþêîâà! óæ ëó÷øå ñèñÿñòûõ òàíöîâùèö ïîñòàâèòü èëè ñëîíà êàêîãî èíäèéñêîãî! |
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êñòàòè ÿ òóò ïîäóìàë âîò â ÷åì áóäóùåå: ìóçûêà êàê ýìîöèîíàëüíûé êîä, â ìîçã âñòðàèâàåòñÿ êîíòðîëëåð, âðîäå ìèäè, êîòîðûé â ðåçóëüòàòå ñèãíàëîâ äåéñòâóåò íåïîñðåäñòâåííî íà ýìîöèè! âîò â ÷åì ñìûñë! Ïðèéäåøü íà ãîðáóøêó, ñêàæåøü "ýýý, êîìàíäèð, äàé-êà âåñåëèíüêîãî ÷åãî-íèòü...åùå äëÿ äóøè...åùå î æåíùèíå è î ëþáâè", îí äîñòàíåò ïàðó ïèðàòñêèõ ìèêðîôëåøåê ïðîòÿíåò òåáå, òû îòäàøü ñâîè êðîâíûå äîëëàÐÓÑû (â åâðîñîþç òàê è íå âîçüìóò, à ýêîíîìèêà áóäåò äî ñòàòü øòàòàì), âñòàâèøü â ìèêðîïëååð ñ íîãîòü âåëè÷èíîé è åùå ìåíüùèì äèñïëååì íà 1819037519856198756149725 öâåòîâ è ñî ñëåçàìè íà ãëàçàõ óéäåøü.....ýõ, áóäóùåå! |
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ìóçûêà íà ðàçíûõ ëþäåé äåéñòâóåò ïî ðàçíîìó, âûçûâàåò äàëåêî íå îäíè è òå æå ýìîöèè. > êîòîðûå ïîðîé òðóäíî îòëè÷èòü îò æèâûõ. ïîòîìó ÷òî òàì ëóïû æèâûå ëþäè çàïèñàëè íà æèâûõ áàðàáàíàõ. |
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 òîì òî è äåëî, ÷òî íå ëóïû , à óàí øîòû, çàïèñàíû ïî 9 à òî è áîëüøå âàðèàíòîâ äèíàìèêè (â ñîâñåì êðóòûõ è ïî 99 à òî è ïî 999 :). äà ëàäíî, âîò ÿ âûïüþ ëèòîð âîòêè, òû âûïüåøü ëèòîð âîòêè èëè áàðàáàíîâ âûïüåò ëèòîð âîòêè, ïî-ìîåìó îäèíàêîâî, òî æå è òóò... |
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íåôèãà íå îäèíàêîâî ![]() à äðàì-ìàøèíà ôñèî ðàâíî íå çàìåíèò ìóçûêàíòà ![]() |
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Áëèí ÷¸ ñïîðèòü, äðàììàøèíà óæå âî ìíîãîì çàìåíÿåò ìóçûêàíòà, à äàëüøå-áîëüøå! È íàñ÷¸ò "àïïëèêàòóðû rlrl, rrrr, llll, rlrr, rlll è ò.ä", ùàñ ìîæíî ïîñèäåòü è ïîçàìîðà÷èâàòüñÿ â ëþáîì ìóçûêàëüíîì ðåäàêòîðå è äîáèòñÿ òîé äèíàìèêè êîòîðóþ äåëàåò ÷åëîâåê, à íà ñàìîì äåëå ìíîãèå áàðàáàíùèêè ñòðåìÿòñÿ äîáèòüñÿ ðîâíîãî çâóêîèçâëå÷åíèÿ êàê äðàììàøèíû ÷òî ðëðë, ÷òî ððëë äîëæíî çâó÷àòü îäèíàêîâî â èäåàëå. ![]() |
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îíè íå ìîãóò çâó÷àòü îäèíàêîâî â ïðèíöèïå, ïîòîìó ÷òî ðàçíûå òåõíîëîãèè óäàðîâ, ðàçíûå ðóêè, è ðàçíûå ìåñòà íà áàðàáàíå çâó÷àò. íåèñêóøåííîìó ìîæåò ïîêàçàòüñÿ îäèíàêîâî êîíå÷íî, íî åñëè âñëóøàòüñÿ êàê ñëåäóåò, òî ñëûøíû áóäóò ðàçíûå îòòåíêè. | |
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ìåíÿ æåëåñêà íå çàìåíèò! èáî ÿ îäèí ÒÀÊ ìûñëþ, éîïòàö.. | |
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Âîò è ÿ è ãîâîðþ íàäî ðàäîâàòüñÿ ïîêà íå èçîáðåëè äîñòóïíûå ÷èïû ñ èñêóñòâåííûì èíòåëëåêòîì. | |
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Êàê âñå ñëîæíî... À âàì íå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ðóäèìåíòàëüíûé áàðàáàíùèê - ýòî òîò áàðàáàíùèê, êîòîðûé îòíîñèòñÿ ê ðóäèìåíòàì, êàê ê íåêîé ôèëîñîôèè, îáúåäèíÿþùåé âñå, ÷òî ñ áàðàáàíàìè ñâÿçàíî? Òàê æå êàê àëôàâèò îïèñûâàåò íàø Âåëèêèé Ðóññêèé ßçûê... | |
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ïðîñëåçèëñî... ðóäèìåíòàëüíîñòü íå ïàðèò, èãðàþ ÷òî ñ÷èòàþ íóæíûì è ïîõ... |
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usr: "èãðàþ ÷òî ñ÷èòàþ íóæíûì, à òàêæå ïüþ ñêîëüêî ñ÷èòàþ íóæíûì!" ![]() |
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