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Òåìà: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 31.07.2009 23:58 

guitar

Ìîí ñåíü¸ðû! Êàê ëó÷øå ñîåäèíÿòü ENGL e530 ñ îêîíå÷íèêîì;
èç LINE OUT èëè èç SEND? Ïðîñòî âñòðå÷àë ÷òî èç SEND âðóáàþò, ïîäðàçóìåâàÿ âèäèìî ïðåèìóùåñòâî êàêîå-òî, âîò ðåøèë ïîèíòåðåñîâàòüñÿ)
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 00:00 
Êëèí


Âîîáùåòî ëó÷øå ÷åðåç Return!!!
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 00:02 
PITERBURG


â îêîíå÷íèêå Return , èç ïðåàìïà out :)))
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 00:08 
Êëèí


Ññîðè íå ïîíÿë âîïðîñà :)
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 00:24 
ñàðàòîâ
banhammer

õîðîøàÿ âåùü.
êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð :7:
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 01:13 
Ìàñòåð æåñòîêèõ èãð


î÷åíü õîðîøàÿ âåñ÷ü.


> âñòðå÷àë ÷òî èç SEND âðóáàþò
ïðàâèëüíî.


>LINE OUT
ýòî âûõîä íà ìèêøåð
Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 01:31 
PITERBURG


äà ñ êàêîãî ïðàâèëüíî òî ?
send return â Ýíãëå ýòî åìó äëÿ îáðàáîòêè , âûõîä ó íåãî line out , äëÿ ëèíèè/ìèêøåðà ó íåãî âûõîä ñ òîíêîìïåíñàöèåé (freq.comp line out)
http://www.dallashodgson.info/reviews/ENGL530/backpanel.bmp
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 01:46 
Áåëãîðîä


à ìàíóàë ïî÷èòàòü çàòðóäíèòåëüíî?

LINE OUTPUT: RIGHT
Line Out for the preamp's right channel
(1/4" unbalanced jack).
This signal can be routed to a poweramp
or a FX device via a shielded cable.

LINE OUTPUT: LEFT
Line Out for the preamp's left channel
(1/4" unbalanced jack).
This signal can be routed to a poweramp
or a FX device via a shielded cable.

Îòñþäà ïðÿìî âèäíî, ÷òî âûõîä LINE OUTPUT ïðÿìî ïðåäíàçíà÷åí äëÿ âêëþ÷åíèÿ â poweramp, ò.å. â îêîíå÷íèê.

http://www.engl-amps.com/manuals/e530-om.pdf
^
(õîäèòü ñþäà)
"Cëàâà àëëàõó, ÷òî ÿ íå ñîñòîÿëñÿ êàê ìóçûêàíò, òåïåðü åñòü ãäå æèòü è íà ÷åì åçäèòü 8)" © Research
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 02:10 
Ìàñòåð æåñòîêèõ èãð


>äà ñ êàêîãî ïðàâèëüíî òî ?
à ÿ òàã õî÷ó :7:
Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 02:41 
PITERBURG


â îáùåì òîæå ìîæíî :7:

INSTRUMENT OUTPUT
FX LOOP SEND
Output for patching the preamp signal to a
poweramp input or the input of a another
preamp or signal processor/FX device.
Ensure you use a short shielded cable for
this signal circuit.
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 02:42 
PITERBURG


ñ ëþáîé äûðû êîðî÷å ôòûêàé )))
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 10:41 
♠ 1212 ♠


ãëàâíîå ÷òáû ïîòîì íå áûëî òåìû-ýïîïåè "çàñòðÿë êîíöåö äæåêà â êîìáèêå" :onotole:
Êîìàíäîâàòü êëèòîðîì áóäó ÿ :radio:
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 11:36 
Ìîñêâà
ESP VP-SL7/Fender 60th Ann Telecaster/Agile Intrepid Pro 828

Ýýý, ÿ êàêáý òóïîé? Âîíçàþñü èç Instrument Output îáû÷íî... Line Output âåäü êîíêðåòíî íàëåâî è íàïðàâî - äâà äæåêà íàäî?
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 12:01 
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

>Ìîí ñåíü¸ðû! Êàê ëó÷øå ñîåäèíÿòü ENGL e530 ñ îêîíå÷íèêîì;
>èç LINE OUT èëè èç SEND? Ïðîñòî âñòðå÷àë ÷òî èç SEND âðóáàþò, ïîäðàçóìåâàÿ âèäèìî ïðåèìóùåñòâî êàêîå-òî, âîò ðåøèë ïîèíòåðåñîâàòüñÿ)

äëÿ ñîåäèíåíèÿ ñ îêîíå÷íèêîì ìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü îáà âûõîäà - äàæå îáà îäíîâðåìåííî, ...åñëè ó òåáÿ íå îäèí îêîíå÷íèê. :)

âûõîä Send(Instrument Output) - ýòî âûõîä ïðÿìî èç ïðåàìïà - ìèíóÿ Return (öåïü Send/Return).
âûõîä Line Out - ýòî âûõîä ïîñëå Return, è èìååò ðó÷êó Line Level äëÿ ïîäíÿòèÿ âûõîäíîãî óðîâíÿ îò 0db äî +15db, - äëÿ ëó÷øåé ðàñêà÷êè îêîíå÷íèêà.
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 12:03 
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

> Line Output âåäü êîíêðåòíî íàëåâî è íàïðàâî - äâà äæåêà íàäî?

íå îáÿçàòåëüíî - ðåæèì Ìîíî ìîæíî îäíèì äæåêîì èç ëþáîãî âûõîäà
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 12:08 
PITERBURG


>Ýýý, ÿ êàêáý òóïîé? Âîíçàþñü èç Instrument Output îáû÷íî... Line Output âåäü êîíêðåòíî íàëåâî è íàïðàâî - äâà äæåêà íàäî?

êàêáý ...... )
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 15:47 
Àñòðàõàíü
ãèòàðû

Êàê õîø òàê è âðóáàé ãëàâíîå çâóóóã
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 17:00 
Ìîñêâà
ESP VP-SL7/Fender 60th Ann Telecaster/Agile Intrepid Pro 828

Ìåíÿ çâóê òèïà óñòðàèâàåò ïîëíîñòüþ è èç Instrument Output. Êòî-íèáóäü ìîæåò ìíå îáüÿñíèòü ðàçíèöó, ÷åì ïî çâóêó îòëè÷àþòñÿ ýòè ñïîñîáû ïîäêëþ÷åíèÿ?
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 17:22 
Carvin CT6M,
Ibanez JEM77, Jackson Soloist,

Íó ÷èòàé :abuse: G.A.- æå íàïèñàë â ÷¸ì îòëè÷èå.
Íåò ïëîõèõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ, åñòü ïàðíè - ñ ðóêàìè èç æîïû!
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 23:34 
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

>Êàê õîø òàê è âðóáàé ãëàâíîå çâóóóã

ïðè ÷¸ì òóò "çâóóóã"?
Çâóê, îí îäèíàêîâûé ïî êà÷åñòâó èç ëþáîãî âûõîäà - èíñòðóìåíò àóò èëè ëàéí àóò...
Íå â êà÷åñòâå çâóêà äåëî, à â ñåðâèñå - â âîçìîæíîñòÿõ. À äàëüøå - óæå òâî¸ äåëî - êàê ýòè âîçìîæíîñòè èñïîëüçîâàòü ñ ìàêñèìàëüíîé ïîëüçîé äëÿ ñåáÿ... :idea2:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2009 23:49 
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

>Ìåíÿ çâóê òèïà óñòðàèâàåò ïîëíîñòüþ è èç Instrument Output. Êòî-íèáóäü ìîæåò ìíå îáüÿñíèòü ðàçíèöó, ÷åì ïî çâóêó îòëè÷àþòñÿ ýòè ñïîñîáû ïîäêëþ÷åíèÿ?

ïî çâóêó íè÷åì íå îòëè÷àþòñÿ - êà÷åñòâî çâóêà òî æå ñàìîå.
Ïðîñòî â Line Out åñòü äîïîëíèòåëüíàÿ ðó÷êà ïîäíÿòèÿ óðîâíÿ Level(+15db), ÷òîáû, ïîñëå âêëþ÷åíèÿ âñåõ íóæíûõ òåáå ïðèìî÷åê â Send/Return, ïîäíÿòü(åñëè òåáå íóæíî) óðîâåíü âûõîäíîãî ñèãíàëà(Line Out) íà âõîä îêîíå÷íèêà... ÷òîáû ðàñêà÷àòü îêîíå÷íèê ïî ãðîìêîñòè
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2009 20:57 
Ìîñêâà


Instrument output\\Send - ýòî âûõîä íåïîñðåäñòâåííî ñ ëàìïîâîé ÷àñòè ñõåìû, îòñþäà áðàòü â ëàìïîâûé îêîíå÷íèê, åñëè íå ïðåäóñìàòðèâàåòñÿ îáðàáîòêà â ðàçðûâ. Ìîæíî è ñ lineout, íî çäåñü ñèãíàë óæå ïðîø¸ë ÷åðåç ìèêðîñõåìíûé áóôåð. Íà çâóê íå âëèÿåò (ïî÷òè...).  îáùèõ ñëó÷àÿõ îòñþäà áðàòü íà òðàíçèñòîðíûé îêîíå÷íèê.
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Òåìà: Re: Engl530
Âðåìÿ: 07.08.2009 14:28 
Ìîñêâà
ESP VP-SL7/Fender 60th Ann Telecaster/Agile Intrepid Pro 828

>ïî çâóêó íè÷åì íå îòëè÷àþòñÿ - êà÷åñòâî çâóêà òî æå ñàìîå.
>Ïðîñòî â Line Out åñòü äîïîëíèòåëüíàÿ ðó÷êà ïîäíÿòèÿ óðîâíÿ Level(+15db), ÷òîáû, ïîñëå âêëþ÷åíèÿ âñåõ íóæíûõ òåáå ïðèìî÷åê â Send/Return, ïîäíÿòü(åñëè òåáå íóæíî) óðîâåíü âûõîäíîãî ñèãíàëà(Line Out) íà âõîä îêîíå÷íèêà... ÷òîáû ðàñêà÷àòü îêîíå÷íèê ïî ãðîìêîñòè

Ñïàñèáî! Äîõîä÷èâî.
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!