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Òåìà: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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×òî ëó÷øå äðóçüÿ, ïîäñêàæèòå: Xotic AC+ èëè BB+ | ||||||||||
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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Ïèòåð Guitars, Keys 
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à êàê áû íå ñìóùàåò, ÷òî ýòî äâå àáñîëþòíî ðàçíûå ïåäàëè? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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Çàìêàäüå MJT Jazzmaster, MJT Stratocaster, DSI OB-6 
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Ìèòàëçîí ìîæíî ãëÿíóòü, ëó÷øå è äåøåâëå 
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https://www.youtube.com/deniki4 Îáçîðû
"Áåç êîìïðåññîðà ïðîïàäàåò äèíàìèêà èãðû" © Nurnika "ïðîñòî ðîâíîñòü -ýòî ïðîñòî ðîâíîñòü. çàñòàâèòü çâó÷àòü ýòó ðîâíîñòü. åñëè îíà íóæíà . òóò íàäî ñòàðàòüñÿ." © time |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2012 11:07 |
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>Ìèòàëçîí ìîæíî ãëÿíóòü, ëó÷øå è äåøåâëå 
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2012 11:40 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine 
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Óâàæàåìûé áóì ïåðäà, åùå ïî÷èòàéòå èíôó â ñåòè ïðî ïåäàëè, íåëüçÿ ñðàâíèâàòü ðàçíûå âåùè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2012 11:47 |
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Ìîñêâà Fuzz Faces 
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Ãîëîñíóë çà ÁèÁè Àâòîð ÷èòàé îïèñàíèå õîòÿ áû: |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2012 13:06 |
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Ìîñêâà ïèàíèíà
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- Òåïåðü òû, Ôåäîð Ïåòðîâè÷! íà "À" - Âîðêóòà... - Íó ïî÷åìó âîðêóòà?! - À ÿ òàì ñèäåë! (ñ) Òûêíóë çà ÀÑ, èáî ó ìåíÿ îí áûë 
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Ýõ, ðîê, ãîâíîðîê, ôåíäåð ñòðàòîêàñòåð (ñ)
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2012 16:12 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèòàðà 
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>- Òåïåðü òû, Ôåäîð Ïåòðîâè÷! íà "À" >- Âîðêóòà... >- Íó ïî÷åìó âîðêóòà?! >- À ÿ òàì ñèäåë! (ñ) Ñïèðòëîòî82 , ææîøü!  
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2012 21:27 |
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Çàìêàäüå MJT Jazzmaster, MJT Stratocaster, DSI OB-6
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>Óâàæàåìûé áóì ïåðäà
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https://www.youtube.com/deniki4 Îáçîðû
"Áåç êîìïðåññîðà ïðîïàäàåò äèíàìèêà èãðû" © Nurnika "ïðîñòî ðîâíîñòü -ýòî ïðîñòî ðîâíîñòü. çàñòàâèòü çâó÷àòü ýòó ðîâíîñòü. åñëè îíà íóæíà . òóò íàäî ñòàðàòüñÿ." © time |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 03.04.2012 22:52 |
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LP, SC. 
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ïëþñàíóë çà áá=) ìàðøàëîèäû èìõî áîëåå óíèâåðñàëüíû) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 04.04.2012 10:04 |
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Ìîñêâà ïèàíèíà
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> áá = ìàðøàëîèäû... ýòî ãîíåâî  îò ìàðøàëîèäîâ òàì íåò ðîâíûì ñ÷åòîì íèêóÿ 
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Ýõ, ðîê, ãîâíîðîê, ôåíäåð ñòðàòîêàñòåð (ñ)
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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>> áá = ìàðøàëîèäû... >ýòî ãîíåâî îò ìàðøàëîèäîâ òàì íåò ðîâíûì ñ÷åòîì íèêóÿ IIRC, BB preamp ýòî ñêðèìåð ñ baxandall òîíñòýêîì. |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 04.04.2012 20:19 |
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Ñìîëåíñê Ãèòàðà 
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Jester, à ýòî ÷òî çà çâåðü? >>> >IIRC, BB preamp ýòî ñêðèìåð ñ baxandall òîíñòýêîì. |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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Jester, òå íå ïîíÿë, ÿ çíàþ, ÷òî òàêîå BB+, îí ó ìåíÿ ó ñàìîãî åñòü. ß íå ïîíÿë, ÷òî òàêîå "baxandall òîíñòýêîì" | |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 04.04.2012 20:43 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòû è áóñòåðà 
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À ïî÷åìó òàê âñå ãèòàðèñòû äðî-ò íà Xotic? Ïîìîåìó â ýòèõ ïåäàëÿõ íåò íè÷åãî îñîáåííîãî
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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>À ïî÷åìó òàê âñå ãèòàðèñòû äðî-ò íà Xotic? Ïîìîåìó â ýòèõ ïåäàëÿõ íåò íè÷åãî îñîáåííîãî À ÷òî çíà÷èò "îñîáåííîãî"? Îíè áîðù âàðèòü äîëæíû, èëè ÷òî? 
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 04.04.2012 20:51 |
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Ñìîëåíñê Ãèòàðà
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Jester, íó è òû ïîäóìàë,÷òî ÿ ÷òî-òî òàì ïîéìó? Ìîæåò â äâóõ ñëîâàõ íàïèøåøü, èíòåðåñíî î÷åíü, çàèíòðèãîâàë. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2012 05:10 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âàø ïðîôàéë îòðåäàêòèðîâàí 
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Åñëè çàøåë ðàçãîâîð Îá ýòèõ äâóõ ïåäàëÿõ îáÿçàòåëüíî ñ÷èòàþ íàäî ðàññìîòðåòü Ñðàâíèòåëüíî íîâûå ðåøåíèÿ îò xotic çàíèìàþùèå ïî ôóíêöèîíàëó ïðîìåæóòî÷íîå ìåñòî ìåæäó àñ booster è ac+ è ìåæäó bb preamp è bb+ ðå÷ü èäåò îá xotic ac-comp è xotic bbp-mb ñîîòâåòñòâåííî Ïåðâàÿ ïåäàëü èìååò ðîäîâûå êîðíè ac booster è ðåãóëèðîâêó óðîâíÿ êîìïðåññèè òîãî æå òèïà êàê àñ+ - ïåäàëü èìååò òèïîðàçìåð àñ áóñòà. AC-comp çâó÷èò ïîáîãà÷å ñòîêîâîãî àñ îñîáåííî ïðè íåáîëüøîé ãðîìêîñòè óñèëåíèÿ, êîãäà íåò âîçìîæíîñòè ïîëó÷åíèÿ åñòåñòâåííîé êîìïðåññèè BBp-mb èìååò äîïîëíèòåëüíóþ ðåãóëèðîâêó ñðåäíèõ ÷àñòîò. Ýòîò îâåðäðàéâ íà÷èíàåò çâó÷àòü áîëåå íàãðóæåííî, åñëè îñíîâàòåëüíî îòêðûòü ýòó ðåãóëèðîâêó .  ïðèíöèïå ýòà ïåäàëü çâó÷èò áîëåå "ðîêîâî" ÷åì ñòîêîâûé bb . Íà ñòîêîâîì bb õîðîøî êàòÿò ïåâó÷èå ñîëî, íî âñÿ÷åñêèå äæ-äæ ýòî ÷åðåç ñèëó.  bbp-mb ýòî äåëàåòñÿ ëåã÷å. Ê òîìó æå ïåäàëü êàê-òî èìååò áîëüøå äèíàìèêè - êàê-òî âñå óâåðåííåå ïðîèãðûâàåòñÿ, àãðåññèâíåå.  áëèæàéøåå âðåìÿ ïîäãîòîâëþ êàêîé-òî âèäîñ ïî bb preamp mid boost (bbp mb) |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2012 18:11 |
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>bb preamp mid boost (bbp mb) îîî÷åíü õîðîøàÿ ïåäàëü.... ðåãóëèðîâêà ñðåäíèõ ÷àñòîò -- ïðîñòî ñêàçêà.... ...ýòè ñðåäíèå ÷àñòîòû î÷åíü "ïðàâèëüíûå" ... ....çâóê ñòàíîâèòñÿ áîëåå áëàãîðîäíûì è, ÿ áû äàæå ñêàçàë, áîëåå "ïîðîäèñòûé" ............ highly recommended 
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2012 15:33 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âàø ïðîôàéë îòðåäàêòèðîâàí
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âîòò ñðàâíèòåëüíûé ðîëèê bb pramp è bb preamp midboost |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2012 15:44 |
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spb suhr+axefx+adam ♫ 
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áåëåíüêàÿ ñî÷íåå 
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âàø ïðîôàéë îòðåäàêòèðîâàí
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íó òàê è åñòü. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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>âîòò ñðàâíèòåëüíûé ðîëèê bb pramp è bb preamp midboost âæèâóþ ðàçíèöó áûëî ñëûøíî åù¸ áîëüøå.... ïðÿìî ïåðåä êîìáîì... çäåñü êàìåðà íåìíîãî óñðåäíÿåò çâóê - êîìïðåññèðóåò... |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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ß âîò, êñòàòè, êàæäûé ðàç óäèâëÿþñü íà äåìêè D7, ïèñàííûå íà êàìåðíûé ìèêðîôîí. Íå, ÿ êîíå÷íî ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî èì ïîôèã, â îáùåì-òî. Íî ðåáÿòà âðîäå æå íå áåäíûå äà è çâóêîì çàíèìàþòñÿ, íå óæ-òî ïàðû ìèêðîôîíîâ íå íàéòè?
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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Jester , ïðèåçæàé èç Ïèòåðà - è çàïèøåøü "êàê íàäî" ....
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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STEREO@MONO™ , óæ ìíå-òî òî÷íî ïîôèã íà ýòî. Ó ìåíÿ íè óñèëêîâ õîðîøèõ, íè ìèêðîôîíîâ, íè Ãàðèêîâ ÷òîáû èãðàòü 
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine
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Ïî îùóùåíèÿì. ÁÁ íåìíîãî ïîæåñò÷å è ïîòóïåå ÷óòî÷êó.. åñëè òàê ìîæíî âûðàçèòüñÿ... áåëåíüêàÿ ïåäàëüêà ïîãèá÷å, ïîèçÿùíåå, ïðåçåíñîâåå. Íî ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî è íà ÁÁ ìîæíî äîáèòüñÿ çâó÷àíèÿ ÁÁÏ ÌÁ, â íåêîòîðûõ ïîëîæåíèÿõ. È íàîáîðîò, íî îíè íå ïîëíîñòüþ âçàèìîçàìåíÿåìû. Åñëè íåïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë - ïðîñòèòå)) Ä7, ñïàñèáî. Èíòåðåñíàÿ íàâîäêà)) |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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>Íî ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî è íà ÁÁ ìîæíî äîáèòüñÿ çâó÷àíèÿ ÁÁÏ ÌÁ, â íåêîòîðûõ ïîëîæåíèÿõ. È íàîáîðîò, íî îíè íå ïîëíîñòüþ âçàèìîçàìåíÿåìû. íåò - íà ÁÁ íå ïîëó÷èøü çâóê êàê íà ÁÁìá .... ÁÁìá èçíà÷àëüíî ÷óòü áëàãîðîäíåå çâó÷èò.... íå ñèëüíî - íî åñòü... ïëþñ ýòà ñåðåäèíà íàñòîëüêî ìóçûêàëüíàÿ..... - î÷åíü ãðàìîòíî âûâåðåíà (÷àñòîòû) ðåñïåêò ÷óâàêàì èç Xotic .... >Åñëè íåïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë - ïðîñòèòå)) ëàäíî -- òàê óæ è áûòü...  .... íî, ñìîòðè - áîëüøå íå áàëóéñÿ.... 
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âàø ïðîôàéë îòðåäàêòèðîâàí
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>ß âîò, êñòàòè, êàæäûé ðàç óäèâëÿþñü íà äåìêè D7, ïèñàííûå íà êàìåðíûé ìèêðîôîí. Íå, ÿ êîíå÷íî ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî èì ïîôèã, â îáùåì-òî. Íî ðåáÿòà âðîäå æå íå áåäíûå äà è çâóêîì çàíèìàþòñÿ, íå óæ-òî ïàðû ìèêðîôîíîâ íå íàéòè? Ìèêðîôîí äëÿ çàïèñè çâóêà ñ êàìåðû? Ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì ïðèìó ðåêîìåíäàöèè. Âîîáùå âñòðå÷íî ïîðåêîìåíäóþ çàíÿòüñÿ ýòîé òåìîé èçó÷èòü ýòîò âîïðîñ ( ñ ìèêðîôîíàìè äëÿ êàìåð) Âïîëíå ñåáÿ çàðåêîìåíäîâàë â ýòîé òåìå âèäåîðåêîðäåð zoom q3hd. Ó íàñ îí èíîãäà áûâàåò. Êîãäà íåâîçìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü êàìåðó ( paparazzi mode) ñîéäåò ïðàâäà êàðòèíêà íå êàê ó êàìåðû, íî è öåííèê òîæå .  ñòàòè÷åñêîì ðåæèìå, â íåáîëüøèõ ïîìåùåíèÿõ î÷åíü íåïëîõ. Õîðîøî äåðæèò çâóêîâîå äàâëåíèå, ëèáî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü ïîíèæåííóþ ÷óâñòâèòåëüíîñòü ìèêðîôîíà. Íó à èç îáùèõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé. Íàøè âèäåî íîñÿò ðåïîðòàæíûé õàðàêòåð . Åñëè íóæíî êà÷åñòâî, òî âñå òàêè íàäî ïèñàòü ñòóäèéíî êàê ïîëàãàåòñÿ è ìîíòèðîâàòü çâóê ñ âèäåîðÿäîì. ß íèêîãäà íå çàáûâàþ, ÷òî ÷åì ëó÷øå ðàçâèòû óøè ó ãèòàðèñòà, òåì îíè - áîëüøå è ìàëèíîâåå íà ïðîñâåò |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
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Õàðüêîâ Brian May Red Special 
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>ïëþñàíóë çà áá=) ìàðøàëîèäû èìõî áîëåå óíèâåðñàëüíû) ãäå òàì, â êàêîì ìåñòå ìàðøàëîèä  Àâòîð íàó÷èñü þçàòü ãóãë è þòóá ...ïî ñàáæó, bb îòëè÷íàÿ øòóêà, íî ïðèìåíåíèå åé â ðîêå è áîëåå òÿæåëûõ ñòèëÿõ íå íàøåë, ñëèøêîì êîìïðåññèðóåò çâóê... î÷åíü íàáû÷åííûé, êîðî÷å òåðÿåòñÿ â ìèêñå
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"If you can dream it, you can do it!"
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 10.05.2012 13:43 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âàø ïðîôàéë îòðåäàêòèðîâàí
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â ýòîì ïëàíå ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü bb preamp mid boost ýòî îòíîñèòåëüíî íîâàÿ èõ ïåäàëü â ðîêå ïîèíòåðåñíåå ÷åì bb-ïðåàìï | |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 10.05.2012 13:53 |
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>...ïî ñàáæó, bb îòëè÷íàÿ øòóêà, íî ïðèìåíåíèå åé â ðîêå è áîëåå òÿæåëûõ ñòèëÿõ íå íàøåë, ñëèøêîì êîìïðåññèðóåò çâóê... À â ÷¸ì ñâÿçü? >î÷åíü íàáû÷åííûé, êîðî÷å òåðÿåòñÿ â ìèêñå Èçâèíè, êîíå÷íî, íî ýòî 100% íå â ïåäàëè äåëî... |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 11.05.2012 02:36 |
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Õàðüêîâ Brian May Red Special
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>>...ïî ñàáæó, bb îòëè÷íàÿ øòóêà, íî ïðèìåíåíèå åé â ðîêå è áîëåå òÿæåëûõ ñòèëÿõ íå íàøåë, ñëèøêîì êîìïðåññèðóåò çâóê... >À â ÷¸ì ñâÿçü? â òîì, ÷òî ïåäàëü íå âåçäå ñåáÿ íàéä¸ò è ýòî íàäî ó÷èòûâàòü >>î÷åíü íàáû÷åííûé, êîðî÷å òåðÿåòñÿ â ìèêñå >Èçâèíè, êîíå÷íî, íî ýòî 100% íå â ïåäàëè äåëî... àõ, íó äà... èçâèíèòå ãóðó... ñåé÷àñ çàïèøóñü ê Âàì íà ëåêöèþ è Âû ìíå äóðàêó ïðîëüåòå ñâåò èñòèíû
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"If you can dream it, you can do it!"
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 11.05.2012 12:43 |
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vision , çíàåøü, êîãäà ó âñåãî ìèðà ñêðèìåðû ïðîðåçàþò, à ó òåáÿ â ìèêñå òîíóò... Òî òóò óæ ñàì äóìàé... 
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 11.05.2012 13:21 |
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Õàðüêîâ Brian May Red Special
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Jester , ãîâîðèøü BB ñêðèì?! 
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"If you can dream it, you can do it!"
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 11.05.2012 13:57 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèòàðà
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>Jester , ãîâîðèøü BB ñêðèì?! vision , ñêàæè åù¸, ÷òî ýòî ìàðøàëëîèä íà îñíîâå Áëþç Áðåéêåðà è âîîáùå ïðåàìï  òîì, ÷òî îõðåíåííî ñåðåäèíèñòàÿ ïåäàëü òîíåò â ìèêñå âèíîâàòà òî÷íî íå ïåäàëü. |
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Òåìà: Re: Xotic AC+ vs BB+
Âðåìÿ: 11.05.2012 14:14 |
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Õàðüêîâ Brian May Red Special
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>vision , ñêàæè åù¸, ÷òî ýòî ìàðøàëëîèä íà îñíîâå Áëþç Áðåéêåðà è âîîáùå ïðåàìï â êàêîì ìåñòå ýòî ìàðøàëîèä, äÿäÿ?! > òîì, ÷òî îõðåíåííî ñåðåäèíèñòàÿ ïåäàëü òîíåò â ìèêñå âèíîâàòà òî÷íî íå ïåäàëü. â òîì òî è áåäà, ÷òî ñëèøêîì óæ òàì ìíîãî ýòîé íàáû÷åííîé ñåðåäèíû... |
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