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1 2 Ïîñìîòðåòü âñþ òåìó
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Âðåìÿ: 06.08.2012 23:10 
Óðàëüñê/Ñàìàðà


×åì õîðîøè Boss DD-7 è Tc Electronics Flashback Delay, ÷òî âçÿòü èëè ó êîãî áîëüøå âñÿêèõ âîçìîæíîñòåé?!
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Âðåìÿ: 06.08.2012 23:38 
Ìîñêâà
Fuzz Faces

ó òèñè áîëüøå :4:
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Âðåìÿ: 07.08.2012 02:08 
Ìîñêâà
Danelectro U2, Vintage Strat

ó êîãî áîëüøå âñÿêèõ âîçìîæíîñòåé
Ó Digitech JamMan?)
Danelectro - ñêàíäàëû, èíòðèãè, ðàññëåäîâàíèÿ è ïðîñòî ïîëåçíàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ îò âëàäåëüöåâ http://vk.com/dano_club
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Âðåìÿ: 07.08.2012 02:28 
Ìàñòåð æåñòîêèõ èãð


>Ashton AB-2, StarSun Telecaster
Âûáîð èíñòðóìåíòà íà ãèòàðíîì ïîñîâåòîâàëè?
Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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Âðåìÿ: 07.08.2012 05:22 
Áàðíàóë
Fender Am Deluxe Strat

Flashback íàâîðî÷åííåé è òàì âñå áîëåå ïîíÿòíî :idea2:
Guitar players are always doing shit with feedback. They love it, everyone else hates it. (c) Ray Manzarek

The Les Paul is a beautiful guitar but it’s heavy as shit! (c) Joan Jett
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð äèëýÿ: Boss DD-7 èëè Tc Electronics Flashback Delay
Âðåìÿ: 07.08.2012 08:45 
ÑÏá
Fender jazz bass

áåðè dd7, à ó TC âîçìîæíîñòåé áîëüøå :)
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Âðåìÿ: 07.08.2012 09:30 
Moscow


áûëà boss ðàíüøå, ñåé÷àñ flashback
ïîñëåäíåé áîëåå ÷åì äîâîëåí
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Âðåìÿ: 07.08.2012 11:25 



Ó îáîèõ âîçìîæíîñòè îäèíàêîâûå: äåëåé èëè ëóïåð :yak:
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Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2012 21:35 
Óðàëüñê/Ñàìàðà


>>Ashton AB-2, StarSun Telecaster
>Âûáîð èíñòðóìåíòà íà ãèòàðíîì ïîñîâåòîâàëè?
 Óðàëüñêå 1 ìóç.ìàã. Òåëåê áðàë ïîòîìó ÷òî ïåðâàÿ ýëåêòðóõà "êîìîì", áðàë ÷òî ïîäåøåâëå, à èç áàñà âûáèðàòü âîîáùå íå÷åãî! :Smiley19:
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Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2012 22:50 

Fender Telecaster

Ðàç òàêàÿ òåìà, ñïðîøó. Êòî-íèáóäü èñïîëüçóåò ëóïåð âìåñòå ñ æèâûìè áàðàáàíàìè? Ó ìåíÿ ïðàêòè÷åñêè íèêîãäà íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ïîäîáðàòü íóæíûé ìîìåíò äëÿ íàæàòèÿ íà ïåäàëü è ïîëó÷àþòñÿ ðàñõîæäåíèÿ â ðèòìå. Åñëè èãðàòü ñàìîìó, òî ýòî íå îñîáî çàìåòíî, à âîò ñ áàðàáàíùèêîì íåâîçìîæíî èãðàòü òàê.
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Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2012 22:55 
Ìîñêâà


Peter435 , äëÿ ýòîãî áàðàáàíùèêó íóæíî èãðàòü ñ ìåòðîíîìîì
Gibson EB bass/Gibson LP Std
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð äèëýÿ: Boss DD-7 èëè Tc Electronics Flashback Delay
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2012 23:18 

Fender Telecaster

LEO , Òàê ïðîáëåìû ñ ðèòìîì êàê ðàç ó ìåíÿ. Òðóäíî ïîäîáðàòü ýòîò ñàìûé ìîìåíò, êîãäà íàæàòü. È åñëè íà äîëþ ñåêóíäû îïîçäàë èëè íàîáîðîò ñëèøêîì ðàíî íàæàë, òî âñå, ðèòì ðàñõîäèòñÿ.
Âñå-òàêè ó ìåíÿ îäíîãî òàêàÿ ïðîáëåìà?
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Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2012 09:52 
ÑÏá
Fender jazz bass

>Òàê ïðîáëåìû ñ ðèòìîì êàê ðàç ó ìåíÿ

òîãäà, òåáå ïîä ìåòðîíîì èãðàòü íàäî
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Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2012 11:55 
Ïèòåð


Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ïîâòîðÿþ, çàáóäüòå ïðî äèëåè áîññ, åñëè ýòî íå Ñïåéñ Ýõî èëè âèíòàæíûé ÄÌ-2. :moral:
Tonechaser - ãèòàðíûå ýôôåêòû!
http://tonechaserfx.vkontakte.ru
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Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2012 14:49 
ÑÏá
Fender jazz bass

>áîññ, åñëè ýòî íå Ñïåéñ Ýõî

÷òî çà áîññ òàêîé? :4:
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Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2012 14:52 
ÑÏá
Fender jazz bass

>âèíòàæíûé ÄÌ-2

êòî áû ñîìíåâàëñÿ, ÷òî âèíòàæíûå ÿïîíñêèå áîññû, ëó÷øå íûíåøíèõ, òàéâåíüñêèõ :)
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Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2012 15:13 



>>áîññ, åñëè ýòî íå Ñïåéñ Ýõî
>÷òî çà áîññ òàêîé?

ãóãë äàæå íà ïî-ðóññêè çàáèòîå "áîññ ñïåéñ ýõî" âûäà¸ò ÷òî ýòî òàêîå :ulyb:


>>âèíòàæíûé ÄÌ-2
>êòî áû ñîìíåâàëñÿ, ÷òî âèíòàæíûå ÿïîíñêèå áîññû, ëó÷øå íûíåøíèõ, òàéâåíüñêèõ
Äà, ñîâðåìåííûå òàéâàíüñêèå DM-2 òàêàÿ äàæà... :lol:
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Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2012 15:35 
ÑÏá
Fender jazz bass

>Äà, ñîâðåìåííûå òàéâàíüñêèå DM-2 òàêàÿ äàæà

Äèì, íå ïðèäèðàéñÿ ê ñëîâàì, ÿ èìåë ââèäó âñþ ëèíåéêó áîññîâ :)

>ãóãë äàæå íà ïî-ðóññêè çàáèòîå "áîññ ñïåéñ ýõî" âûäà¸ò ÷òî ýòî òàêîå

÷¸ò ÿ ñòóïèë :7: :lol:
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Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2012 22:15 
Óðàëüñê/Ñàìàðà


>Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ïîâòîðÿþ, çàáóäüòå ïðî äèëåè áîññ, åñëè ýòî íå Ñïåéñ Ýõî èëè âèíòàæíûé ÄÌ-2.
Ñêàæè Óýñó Áîðëàíäó, ÷òî áîññ äåðüìî! :1:
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Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2012 22:41 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>Ñêàæè Óýñó Áîðëàíäó, ÷òî áîññ äåðüìî!
À êòî ýòî?
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Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2012 23:48 

Fender Telecaster

Íåò, âñå-òàêè ÿ ïðèõîæó ê âûâîäó, ÷òî íåâîçìîæíî ëóïåðîì (ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ìîèì dd-7) ñîçäàòü ðîâíóþ ðèòìè÷åñêóþ ïàðòèþ.
Èãðàë âîò ñ ìåòðîíîìîì è îáíàðóæèë, ÷òî êàê áû èäåàëüíî íå îáðåçàòü ëóï, âñå ðàâíî áóäåò íåçàìåòíîå ðàñõîæäåíèå, êîòîðîå ñ êàæäûì ïîâòîðîì êîëüöà áóäåò óâåëè÷èâàòüñÿ.
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Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2012 15:12 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

Zoom, õîðîø òðîëëèòü! íîðìàëüíàÿ ïåäàëèíà DD7 :4:
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Âðåìÿ: 12.08.2012 05:47 

Telecaster - Ëó÷øàÿ ãèòàðà íà ñâåòå

À ÿ âîò ñ íîã äî ãîëîâû èçó÷àë Flashback - è íå ñòàë ñâîé dd-7 íà íåãî ìåíÿòü.
íå âñòàâèë îí ìåíÿ ñîâñåì ïî çâóêó.
1 - ó DD-7 â ìîä äåëåå - ìîäóëÿöèÿ ÿð÷å âûðàæåíà, è âîîáùå ïðèÿòíåå áîëåå ïî-àíàëîãîâîìó çâó÷èò.
2 - ó DD-7 íà ðåâåðñ äåëåå ìîæíî îñòàâèòü òîëüêî ðåâåðñèâíûé ñèãíàë - ó ÒÑ íåò.
3 - ó DD-7 ïðîñòî îôèãåííàÿ ôóíêöèÿ âíåøíåãî òàïà - ïîäñîåäèíÿåøü ïåäàëü ñóñòåéíà îò êëàâèø, ëèáî äåëàåøü ñàì çà 50 ðóáëåé - è íà ðåïå\ñöåíå çàáûâàåøü î ïðîáëåìõ. ó ÒÑ òàêîãî íåò.
4 - DD-7 ìíîãî íà âòîðè÷íîì ðûíêå ïî 4 000 ðóáëåé.

Ïëþñû TC -
1 - Áàéïàññ. Õîòÿ íå ãîíÿþñü çà ýòèì, è ñ òåëåêîì íåäîñòàòêà âûñîêèõ íå èñïûòûâàþ.
2 - áîëüøå âàðèàíòîâ äåëåÿ, èç êîòîðûõ ìíå íóæåí òîëüêî îáû÷íûé öèôðîâîé äåëåé, è íåìíîãî ìîäóëÿöèîííîãî äëÿ êîñìîñà.
3 - Òîóíïðèíò - òîæå èñõîäÿ èç âòîðîãî ïóíêòà êàê ñîáàêå ïÿòàÿ íîãà.
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Âðåìÿ: 12.08.2012 18:19 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

>- ó DD-7 íà ðåâåðñ äåëåå ìîæíî îñòàâèòü òîëüêî ðåâåðñèâíûé ñèãíàë - ó ÒÑ íåò.

ïëîõî ãîíÿë åñëè íå íàøåë :4:
âíóòðè åñòü ïåðåêëþ÷àòåëü DRY-KILL
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Âðåìÿ: 12.08.2012 22:25 
Ñèìôåðîïîëüñê


áîññ ó òñ ñàñ¸ò íèíàãèáàÿçü
Àé íîó èòñ îíëè ðàêåíðîë áàëàëàéêå! (ñ) Ðîëëèíõ Ñòîóíñ
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Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2012 23:34 
äàâíî óøåë
ñ ÌÔ

>Íåò, âñå-òàêè ÿ ïðèõîæó ê âûâîäó, ÷òî íåâîçìîæíî ëóïåðîì (ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ìîèì dd-7) ñîçäàòü ðîâíóþ ðèòìè÷åñêóþ ïàðòèþ.
>Èãðàë âîò ñ ìåòðîíîìîì è îáíàðóæèë, ÷òî êàê áû èäåàëüíî íå îáðåçàòü ëóï, âñå ðàâíî áóäåò íåçàìåòíîå ðàñõîæäåíèå, êîòîðîå ñ êàæäûì ïîâòîðîì êîëüöà áóäåò óâåëè÷èâàòüñÿ.

Êîñòÿ ×àëûõ èç ãðóïïû Ìîè Ðàêåòû Ââåðõ ïîñòîÿííî ïîëüçîâàëñÿ ëóïåðîì, ñýìïëèðîâàë ñâîè ïàðòèè, èãðàë ïîâåðõíèõ åùå äåñÿòîê, è âñå ýòî æèâüåì âìåñòå ñ ãðóïïîé. Òàê ÷òî âñå âîçìîæíî :idea2:
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Âðåìÿ: 27.08.2012 12:59 

Fender Telecaster

Òîãäà ïîëàãàþ, ÷òî ó íåãî ëóïåð ïîëó÷øå dd-7.
ß òóò óçíàë, ÷òî õîðîøèå ëóïåðû âðîäå boss rc-20 óìåþò ïîäãîíÿòü çàïèñàííóþ ôðàçó ïîä ðèòì. Ýòî âñå îáúÿñíÿåò. Äóìàþ òåïåðü ïðîäàâàòü dd-7 (èñïîëüçîâàë â íåì òîëüêî ëóïåð) è ïîêóïàòü boss rc-20xl.
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Âðåìÿ: 27.08.2012 13:59 



Ýòî òû LEX'ó ñêàæè, îí ëóïèò íà õýäðàøå áåç âñÿêèõ êâàíòèçàöèé.
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Âðåìÿ: 19.02.2013 14:54 
Moskwah-wah-wah
Äâà

÷òîá íîâóþ òåìó íå çàâîäèòü
à ÷òî äåëàþò äâà ìåëêèõ ñâèò÷à âíóòðè êîðïóñà âî ôëåøáåêå?
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Âðåìÿ: 19.02.2013 15:01 



Jim_Bud , îäèí Trails, âòîðîé kill dry.
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Moskwah-wah-wah
Äâà

è ÷åãî îíè äåëàþò )))
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Trails: Âêëþ÷àåò/îòêëþ÷àåò õâîñòû, êîãäà âûêëþ÷àåøü ïåäàëü
Kill dry - óáèâàåò ïðÿìîé çâóê (ÊÝÏ) äëÿ èñïîëüçîâàíèè â ïàðàëëåëüíîé ïåòëå.
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Âðåìÿ: 19.02.2013 15:30 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

>Trails: Âêëþ÷àåò/îòêëþ÷àåò õâîñòû, êîãäà âûêëþ÷àåøü ïåäàëü

ýòî êàê áý ïåðåêëþ÷àòåëü ìåæäó áóôåðîì è òðó áàéïàññîì
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Âðåìÿ: 19.02.2013 15:32 
Moskwah-wah-wah
Äâà

ïîíÿë âàñ ãîñïîäà :hat:
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Âðåìÿ: 19.02.2013 15:43 
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

Jim_Bud , ó ìàëåêêî 616 òàêîé ïåðåêëþ÷àòåëü ñíàðóæè.. ïðàâäà êèëë äðàé íåòó)
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Âîò ïîøëè êðåàòèâû. Åãî îñíîâíîé ñìûñë, ýòî ðåãóëèðîâàòü õâîñòû, îñòàëüíîå óæå ñëàáî censored. Êîíå÷íî ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ñ òðóÚ áàéïàööîì õâîñòîâ íå ìîæåò áûòü. Îäíàêî â DD-3 è õâîñòîâ íåò, è áóôåð åñòü :lol: Òàê ÷òî äëÿ þçåðà ñìûñë åãî èìåííî â õâîñòàõ.
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð äèëýÿ: Boss DD-7 èëè Tc Electronics Flashback Delay
Âðåìÿ: 19.02.2013 16:12 
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Jim_Bud , òû òàêè êóïèë ôëåøáåê?
Gibson EB bass/Gibson LP Std
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð äèëýÿ: Boss DD-7 èëè Tc Electronics Flashback Delay
Âðåìÿ: 19.02.2013 18:18 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

>Âîò ïîøëè êðåàòèâû.
ÿ ïðîñòî ðàñøèðèë òâîé îòâåò, ñ ÷åãî ñòîëüêî íåãàòèâà? Ïîïåé ïóñòûðíè÷êà, âàðåðèàíî÷êè :1_7:
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð äèëýÿ: Boss DD-7 èëè Tc Electronics Flashback Delay
Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2013 12:22 
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Axiom

Âîò êñòàòè èíòåðåñíàÿ ïåäàëüêà âûøëà îò TC Electronic:

http://altomusic.com/shop/TC-Electronic-Flashback-X4-Delay---Looper-_pid118419.a...r-_pid118419.am


Äóìàþ îòëè÷íàÿ ñìåíà Line 6 DL-4. Õîòÿ ñëóøàòü íàäî.
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð äèëýÿ: Boss DD-7 èëè Tc Electronics Flashback Delay
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 07:45 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
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àäîâåéøèé áàÿí :7: :oooi:
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!