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Òåìà: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 15:41 

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Ñîáñòâåííî âîò ìîé âîïðîñ.
Äëÿ äîìà â êàá 4õ12 è àööêîãî ìèòîëà
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 15:58 

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åùå êàêáå öåíà â 2 ðàçà îòëè÷àåòñÿ
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 16:19 
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C÷èòàþ öåíó çà êèòàéñêèé ãèáðèäíèê H&K Tubemeister 18 íåîáîñíîâàííî çàâûøåííîé.
Íèêàêîãî çâóêîâîãî îòêðîâåíèÿ ó íå¸ íåò, êðîìå ôèðìåííîãî ñòèëüíîãî îôîðìëåíèÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 16:28 
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Ãèòàðà

>êðîìå ôèðìåííîãî ñòèëüíîãî îôîðìëåíèÿ
Ñ ñèíèìè ïèñþíàìè :lol:
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 16:33 
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Strat&Pignose

Ñòèëüíîãî? Óæ ñëèøêîì íà ëþáèòåëÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 17:16 

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Õîðîøåãî ïðåãðóçà èç ãàâðîøà áåç ïåäàëåé èëè ïðåàìïà íå ïîëó÷èòü, ãîâîðþ êàê âëàäåëåö.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 17:32 

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>Õîðîøåãî ïðåãðóçà èç ãàâðîøà áåç ïåäàëåé èëè ïðåàìïà íå ïîëó÷èòü, ãîâîðþ êàê âëàäåëåö.
:agree: Êîãäà ïîïðîáîâàë, äîëãî äóìàë íàä òåì, êàêîé ñòèëü ìóçûêè ìîæíî èãðàòü ñ òàêèì ïåðåãðóçîì ( :7: ), ðåøèë, ÷òî ìîæåò, êàêîé-íèòü äæåíò èëè åùå ÷åãî èç ñîâðåìåííûõ êîðîâ íà ãèòàðàõ ñ ìíîãàñòðóí è â äðîïëÿ, â îáùåì, â ÷åì ÿ íè áåëüìåñà íå ñåêó.
Ñòàðûå ìîñòû ìîãóò åùå ïðèãîäèòüñÿ. Ëó÷øå ñæå÷ü ñòàðûå ãðàáëè.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 17:47 

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Åñëè â äàëüíåéøåì ìîäèòü ãàâðîø
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 18:34 
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Gibson LP, Fender Tele, Rickenbacker

>Õîðîøåãî ïðåãðóçà èç ãàâðîøà áåç ïåäàëåé èëè ïðåàìïà íå ïîëó÷èòü, ãîâîðþ êàê âëàäåëåö.

Èíòåðåñíî, î êàêèõ ïåäàëÿõ èä¸ò ðå÷ü? Ñïðàøèâàþ êàê âëàäåëåö.
...àïîñëÿ â ðîéàëü íàñðàëè,
÷óäíî âðåìÿ ïðîâåëè.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 19:13 
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>C÷èòàþ öåíó çà êèòàéñêèé ãèáðèäíèê H&K Tubemeister 18 íåîáîñíîâàííî çàâûøåííîé.
>Íèêàêîãî çâóêîâîãî îòêðîâåíèÿ ó íå¸ íåò, êðîìå ôèðìåííîãî ñòèëüíîãî îôîðìëåíèÿ.

Äàâíîëü îí ãèáðèäíèêîì ñòàë??? Ñõåìîòåõíèêà ïî ÷åñíàêó, ïðåä ëàìïîâûé, îêîíå÷íèê òîæå. Ïåðåãðóç íà ëþáèòåëÿ êîíå÷íî, ñêîðåå äëÿ ñàòîíû äæ-äæ-äæ. ß ïîëüçóþ òîêà îêîíå÷íèê, èëè ïîäãðóæàþ ÷èñòûé, ðàäóåò, ÷òî àòòåíþàòîð âñòðîåííûé 1-5-18 âò. Äîìà áåç íàïðÿãîâ äëÿ ñîñåäåé.
Êñòàòå åñëè èíòåðåñíî, îí â ïðîäàæå ïî óäîáîâàðèìîé öåíå. Íå ïàòàìóøòà ãóìíî, ïðîñòî ïðèìåðíî ðàç â ãîä ÿ îáíîâëÿþñü è òåñòþ ÷åíèòü äðóãîå, øîá ñàìîìó çíàòü è âûñåðû íà ôîðóìàõ íå ïîñòèòü.

http://www.musicforums.ru/combo/full_1350227971.html#N1350227971
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 19:47 
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>Äàâíîëü îí ãèáðèäíèêîì ñòàë???

Èçíà÷àëüíî âñåãäà ...

Îñîáåííî çàíÿòíî òàêèå ïîñûëû ÷èòàòü
Ñõåìîòåõíèêà ïî ÷åñíàêó, ïðåä ëàìïîâûé

×åñíîêà êàêîãî ñîðòà ,îò øêîëüíûõ þííàòîâ ?


Ó H&K Tubemeister 18 ãèáðèäíûé ïåðåäíèê- òîëüêî îäíà ëàìïà 12AX7 â ïðåäóñèëèòåëå, âòîðàÿ 12AX7 ôàçîèíâåðòîð. Ê îäíîé ëàìïå ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ äîáàâëåíû äâà îïåðàöèîííèêà â ïîìîùü íà âõîäå



Èçó÷àåì ìàò÷àñòü

H&K using a opamp in the preamps of the so called "tubemeister" series amp(they began using them years ago in amps like the Tube edition/Anniversary series) Which makes them a "hybrid" -not a full tube amp.

In these amps, the clean channel is SS because of this, since the opamp is the first gain stage.

Offically it's denied (of course) Techs in the field noticed them when these amps come in for repair and have been documented. Pics of the guts are out there.

You need 2 preamp tubes before the phase invertor tube(2+1=3) in order to have enough gain stages for true heavy tube overdrive.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 19:49 
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Çàéòè ïî ññûëêå äëÿ ëó÷øåãî äàæå íå îáîçðåíèÿ, à îáîðçåíèÿ :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 23:17 
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Plexi, ÷åéòà òû çàãîíÿåøüñÿ, ïðåä íà ëàìïå, âûõîä òîæå, çäåñü îáëàñòü íäðàâèööà-íåíäðàâèööà íå áîëåå. íå â êîèì ñëó÷àå íå ïèàðþ äàííûé ïðîäóêò, íî äëÿ êâàðòèðû, òîêà ýíãë ìàñèïóëå÷íûé ñ àòòåíþàòîðîì åùå äîãàäàëèñü âûïóñòèòü. Åðàñîâà ëþáëþ è óâàæàþ, íî åãî ïðîäóêò ïîêóïàòü íå ñòàíó è ñîâåòîâàòü íå ñòàíó, èáî âëîá òåñòèë êèòàéöåâ è åãî ïðîäóêò, è óâû, íå â ïîëüçó íàøåãî ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ.
Óïîâàþ íà R&R, åæëè äîãàäàþòñÿ âûïóñòèòü óñèëîê à àòòåíþàòîðîì èëè îêîíå÷íèê 1(0,5) -20(50) âò. +öåíà óäîáîâàðèìàÿ. ñàì þçàþ äîìà 1 âò H&K â êàáèíåò 1Õ12 àëÿ Ìàðøàë 1812 (òîêà ëó÷øå) è 1,5âò (çàáûë êàê çâàòü, ôîòî åñòü) â SA90 è ýòî äîõðåíà ãðîìêî.
Ãîíÿþ ýòî âîò òàêèì ïåäàëáîðäîì è âñå ÎÊ, ïðîñòî âñåãäà â ïîèñêå çà ëó÷øèì-íåèçâåäàííûì. Ëàìïàøíûìè óñèëàìè âëàäåþ ñ 1999 ïðèìåðíî ãîäà, åñòü ñ ÷åì ñðàâíèâàòü. À ïîñêîëüêó òåìà
"H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h" íàäåþñü Àôôòàðó îòâåòèë ïÎëíî è ïî òåìå.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 23:29 
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Çàáûë äîáàâèòü, ÿ íå òîêà æîïîé íà äèâàíå ñèæó è äðî÷ó, âûáèðàþñü è íà ðåïû è íà òóñó. È êàêáå óùåðáíûì â ïëàíå çâóêà ñåáÿ íå ñ÷èòàþ. Óñèëîê ïðàâäà, íå òàñêàþ, Ì1 âïîëíå ñïðàâëÿåòñÿ, ãäå ðàçðûâ åñòü.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2012 23:51 
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Íàäåþñü ÿ äîñòàòî÷íî îáîñíîâàë ñâîè óòâåðæäåíèÿ â ÷àñòè ãèáðèäíîñòè Tubemeister 18 è îòìåë òâîè çàÿâëåíèÿ îáðàòíîãî õàðàêòåðà?
À ïîëüçîâàòü èëè íåò ýòî óæå ëè÷íûé âûáîð êàæäîãî.
Tubemeister 18 ëè÷íî ìíå âèäèòñÿ êàê ïðèáîð ñ ÿâíî çàâûøåííîé öåíîé.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2012 00:34 
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>Íàäåþñü ÿ äîñòàòî÷íî îáîñíîâàë ñâîè óòâåðæäåíèÿ â ÷àñòè ãèáðèäíîñòè Tubemeister 18 è îòìåë òâîè çàÿâëåíèÿ îáðàòíîãî õàðàêòåðà?
>À ïîëüçîâàòü èëè íåò ýòî óæå ëè÷íûé âûáîð êàæäîãî.
>Tubemeister 18 ëè÷íî ìíå âèäèòñÿ êàê ïðèáîð ñ ÿâíî çàâûøåííîé öåíîé.

Öåíà íåäåöêàÿ, ñàì ïëàêàë, êîãäà ïîêóïàë, á/ó íåáûëî òîãäà, à ÿ Áëþçäæóíèîðîìòâèä íàðóøàë ïîêîé ìèðíûõ ãðàæäàí, èáî #####, îí êëåâûé òîêà íà "âñå ðó÷êè âïðàâî" :ulyb:  ñõåìîòåõíèêå ÿ íå ñóïåð àñ, íî ÷å òàì 2 ëàìïû â ïðåäå òîãäà äåëàþò?
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2012 10:30 
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Ïèïåö , åùå ðàç ïåðå÷èòàé âíèìàòåëüíî, ÷òî ÿ ïèñàë , òàì âñå áîëåå, ÷åì äîñòóïíî è âíÿòíî

Íàëè÷èå äâóõ ëàìï 12AX7 â Tubemeister 18, àâòîìàòè÷åñêè íå îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî îíè äâå îòíîñÿòñÿ ê ïðåàìïó.  Tubemeister 18 â ïðåàìïå òîëüêî ÎÄÍÀ !!! ëàìïà 12AX7 , âòîðàÿ
îíîñèòñÿ ê ôàçîíâåðòîðó ( ÷òî ýòî òàêîå óçíàé â ïîèñêîâèêå )
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2012 17:50 

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Còîèò ëè ENGL E-315 Gigmaster 15h ñâîèõ 26 òûñÿ÷? ðàçíèöà â 2 òûñ ñ 18 tubemeister'îì
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2012 17:53 

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Còîèò ëè ENGL E-315 Gigmaster 15h ñâîèõ 26 òûñÿ÷? ðàçíèöà â 2 òûñ ñ 18 tubemeister'îì
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2012 18:13 
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Tele Aerodyne

>Còîèò ëè ENGL E-315 Gigmaster 15h ñâîèõ 26 òûñÿ÷? ðàçíèöà â 2 òûñ ñ 18 tubemeister'îì
Çà ïÿòíàäöàòûé íå ñêàæó, òðèäöàòûé î÷åíü õîðîø (â òîì ñìûñëå, ÷òî ìíå î÷åíü íðàâèòñÿ). Ïî èäåå ó íèõ ðàçíèöà òîëüêî â îêîíå÷íèêå è îòñóòñòâèè àòòåíúþàòîðà ó òðèäöàòêè, íî íå ïîðó÷óñü.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2012 20:25 
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Gibson LP, Fender Tele, Rickenbacker

Ïî ìíå, òàê Engl ãîðàçäî ïðèâëåêàòåëüíåå è ñîáðàííåå ðû÷èò.
...àïîñëÿ â ðîéàëü íàñðàëè,
÷óäíî âðåìÿ ïðîâåëè.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 23.10.2012 18:31 

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http://youtu.be/uywqXLaVfss ñ ìèíóòû 3:10 - âîò íà ýòîò çâóê ÿ êóïèëñÿ
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 23.10.2012 19:01 
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Gibson LP, Fender Tele, Rickenbacker

>http://youtu.be/uywqXLaVfss ñ ìèíóòû 3:10 - âîò íà ýòîò çâóê ÿ êóïèëñÿ

Óæñ! Ìóòü, à íå çâóê.
...àïîñëÿ â ðîéàëü íàñðàëè,
÷óäíî âðåìÿ ïðîâåëè.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2012 00:33 
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Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

Ôðåä , ñêëîíåí ñîãëàñèòüñÿ))
snickers , â ÷åì ïðåëåñòü ýòîãî òèïà çâóêà äëÿ òåáÿ?))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2012 10:40 

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Gustaw, ñëîæíî ñêàçàòü, ïî÷åìó-òî ñåé÷àñ õî÷åòñÿ èìåííî òàêîé çâóê :metal:
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2012 11:07 
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Fuzz Faces

> Ìóòü, à íå çâóê.
àãà, âàòíûé øåêòåð âèíîâàò íàâåðíî :)
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2012 11:08 
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Gibson LP, Fender Tele, Rickenbacker

>Gustaw, ñëîæíî ñêàçàòü, ïî÷åìó-òî ñåé÷àñ õî÷åòñÿ èìåííî òàêîé çâóê

 òàêîì ñëó÷àå, íå âèæó ñìûñëà ïðîäîëæàòü äèñêóññèþ.
...àïîñëÿ â ðîéàëü íàñðàëè,
÷óäíî âðåìÿ ïðîâåëè.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2012 11:19 

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çàêàçàë â èòîãå áëýêñòàð íà 1âò :-)
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2012 12:03 
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Gibson LP, Fender Tele, Rickenbacker

>çàêàçàë â èòîãå áëýêñòàð íà 1âò

Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ çà íå ñêðîìíûé âîïðîñ, íî... Òû êàêîãî ïîëà? :)
...àïîñëÿ â ðîéàëü íàñðàëè,
÷óäíî âðåìÿ ïðîâåëè.
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Òåìà: Re: H&K Tubemeister 18 VS Yerasov G10h
Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2012 14:05 

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íà ìîìåíò âîïðîñà ïðî óñèëîê ýòîò 1 âàòòíûé íè÷åãî íå çíàë, ïîíÿë, íàêîíåö, ÷òî ìíå íóæíî :)
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!