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Òåìà: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 00:59 
Ìîñêâà
Guitar

Âñåì ïðèâåò, ïîñîâåòóéòå Àòòåíþàòîð ïîêà áàøêà 50 âàò õç ñòîèò ëè ó÷èòûâàòü â äàëüíåéøåì áîëåå ìîùíóþ ãîëîâó)
Riff or die
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Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 07:59 
Ìîñêâà
Gretsch 6120

http://www.thdelectronics.com/product_page_hotplate.html

Íàïðèìåð :4:
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Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 11:13 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

ß ñåé÷àñ íàñîâåòóþ :) Òîëüêî ÷òîáû íà ïîë íå ñåñòü, ñíà÷àëà ñòîèò îçâó÷èòü áþäæåò è ñèëó æåëàíèÿ àòòåíþàòîðà :) Ðàçáðîñ î÷åíü áîëüøîé.
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Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 11:46 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

Yammi , è ìíå ïîñîâåòóé, åñëè ìîæíî)) Æåëàòåëüíî, ÷òîáû â ïðåäåëàõ ïàðû ñîòåí äîëëàðîâ))
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Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 15:23 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

Íå ìîãó â ïðåäåëàõ :) ìîãó Tone King Iron Man èëè Aracom (ÿ çà Àéðîíìåí) îáà ïî 800 ñ ëèøíèì
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 15:32 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>îáà ïî 800 ñ ëèøíèì
Íåò, â ýòîé öåíîâîé êàòåãîðèè ìíå ïðîùå êóïèòü åù¸ îäèí óñèëèòåëü ïîòèøå))
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 18:12 
Ìîñêâà
Guitar

>ß ñåé÷àñ íàñîâåòóþ Òîëüêî ÷òîáû íà ïîë íå ñåñòü, ñíà÷àëà ñòîèò îçâó÷èòü áþäæåò è ñèëó æåëàíèÿ àòòåíþàòîðà Ðàçáðîñ î÷åíü áîëüøîé.
â ïðåäåëàõ ïàðû ñîòåí äîëëàðîâ
Riff or die
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 22:59 
Ìîñêâà
Guitar

>http://www.thdelectronics.com/product_page_hotpla te.html
>Íàïðèìåð
åñëè âçÿòü íà 8 îì ïîòîì ê 16 îìíîìó âûõîäó ïîäðóáèòü îí íå ïîãîðèò? èëè ïðîñòî ñîæðåò òîëüêî 8 îì ìàêñèìóì?
Riff or die
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 23:16 
Ìîñêâà
Gretsch 6120

>>http://www.thdelectronics.com/product_page_hotpl a te.html
>>Íàïðèìåð
>åñëè âçÿòü íà 8 îì ïîòîì ê 16 îìíîìó âûõîäó ïîäðóáèòü îí íå ïîãîðèò? èëè ïðîñòî ñîæðåò òîëüêî 8 îì ìàêñèìóì?

ß á ñîâåòîâàë ñòðîãî ñîáëþäàòü õàðàêòåðèñòèêè. Òàì ó íèõ è íà 16 åñòü ãîëóáåíüêèé.
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 23:40 
Ìîñêâà
Guitar

>àë ñòðîãî ñîáëþäàòü õàðàêòåðèñòèêè. Òàì ó íèõ è íà 16 åñòü ãîëóáåíüêèé.
íó âäðóã áàøêó ïîáîëüøå âîçìó ÷òî áû ñíîâà íå ìàÿòöà, õç äàæå åñëè åñëè ìîùíàÿ áàøêà òî ó íåå âñåðàâíî âûõîä íà 8 îì áóäåò, ïðîáëåì áûòü íå äîëæíî
Riff or die
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 23:44 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/mass.htm

Ìíîãî ñ÷àñòüÿ çà 200 áàêñîâ
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 23:49 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

Ó ìåíÿ åñòü THD Hotplate
Ñëèâàåò ïî çâóêó Koch LB120, êîòîðûé ó ìåíÿ òîæå åñòü
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2013 23:52 
Ìîñêâà
Guitar

>https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/mass.htm
>Ìíîãî ñ÷àñòüÿ çà 200 áàêñîâ
ýòî ðåçèñòîðíûé èëè ñïèêåð ìîòîð?)
Riff or die
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2013 00:36 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

Weber MAss 100 - ñïèêåð ìîòîð
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 00:07 
Ìîñêâà
Guitar

>Weber MAss 100 - ñïèêåð ìîòîð
äà ÷å òî íåòó âîñòîðæåííûõ îòçûâîâ, â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå çâóê êóøàåò õç íàäî bad cat åùå ãóãëèòü)
Riff or die
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 07:36 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

Íó òàê ðå÷ü øëà î 200 áàêñîâ :) Ê òîìó æå, â Ðîññèè âîñòîðæåííûõ âîçãëàñîâ ìîæíî äîæäàòüñÿ òîëüêî î íîâîé öèôðîâîé ïðèáëóäå ñòîèìîñòüþ â äâà óñèëêà èëè î êàêîì-íèáóäü ñïåöèôè÷íîì ìåñòíîì êóëüòîâîì èçäåëèè, êîòîðîå íåîæèäàííî íàáèðàåò áåøåííóþ ïîïóëÿðíîñòü.  êàòåãîðèè äî 700 äîëëàðîâ â ìèðå Weber âåñüìà öåíèòñÿ. Ýòî âïîëíå ñíîñíûé àòòåíþàòîð, ÿâíî ëó÷øå THD. Íàéòè óñòðîéñòâî, êîòîðîå íå êóøàåò çâóê íàäî ñèëüíî ïîñòàðàòüñÿ :) Ó Bad Cat õîðîøàÿ ðåïóòàöèÿ. Ñåé÷àñ àêòèâíî ïðîäâèãàåòñÿ Unleash ñ ïåòëåé è öèôðîâûì óñèëêîì, îòâå÷àþùèì çà íàãðóçêó è ðàáîòàþùèì â îáå ñòîðîíû (ïîíèæåíèÿ è óñèëåíèÿ ñèãíàëà) - åãî äàæå ïîñëóøàòü ðåàëüíî. Íî îí ñòîèò áîëüøå 300 :)

Ãóãëèòü ìîæíî ìíîãî ÷åãî. Ìîæíî åùå Faustine Phantome ïîêàðàóëèòü íà èáåå â ðàðèòåòàõ, ìîæíî DR Z. ìîæíî Utimate â êîíöå êîíöîâ.
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 10:07 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>Ñåé÷àñ àêòèâíî ïðîäâèãàåòñÿ Unleash ñ ïåòëåé è öèôðîâûì óñèëêîì, îòâå÷àþùèì çà íàãðóçêó è ðàáîòàþùèì â îáå ñòîðîíû (ïîíèæåíèÿ è óñèëåíèÿ ñèãíàëà) - åãî äàæå ïîñëóøàòü ðåàëüíî. Íî îí ñòîèò áîëüøå 300
À âîò ýòî î÷åíü èíòåðåñíàÿ øòóêà! Ïðàâäà, ñòîèò-òàêè îí äàæå áîëüøå 400, à ñ äîñòàâêîé âñå 500... :lip:
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 11:25 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

Sparrow's Sons ïðîäàåò Unleash ñî ñêèäêîé çà 387 óå (Ó íèõ âðîäå øîóðóì â Ìîñêâå îòêðûëñÿ, â Ïèòåðå íåò, êîíå÷íî. Íî è ñ äîñòàâêîé áóäåò íåíàìíîãî äîðîæå èç Ìèíñêà). Ïðè âñåì ðàçäðàæåíèè îò èõ íàâÿç÷èâîé ðåêëàìû, öåíà âìåíÿåìàÿ, è èç Øòàòîâ ãíàòü íå íàäî :)
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 11:57 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

Yammi , áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî çà íàâîäêó! Âîîáùå, åñëè ýòà øòóêà äåéñòâèòåëüíî äåëèêàòíî îáðàùàåòñÿ ñî çâóêêîì, òî îíà ñâïîñîáíà ñíÿòü âñå ïðåòåíçèè, êîòîëðûå ó ìåíÿ åñòü ê Äåëþêñ Ðåâåðáó - è ðåøèòü âîïðîñ ñ çàïàñîì ÷èñòîãî çâóêà, è çàñòàâèòü åãî çâó÷àòü òèøå, êîãäà ýòî íóæíî (à ýòî áûâàåò ÷àñòî). Âîîáùå íå ïëàíèðîâàë òàêèõ ïîêóïîê, à òóò íåîæèäàííî î÷åíü çàèíòåðåñîâàëñÿ...
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 14:48 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

Íå çíàþ, íàñêîëüêî ýòî äåéñòâóåò, íî âûãëÿäèò ïðèâëåêàòåëüíî. ß ñàì õîòåë ïîñëóøàòü, íî ïîêóïàþ äâà áëîêà ïèòàíèÿ çà áåøåíûå äåíüãè â ïåäàëáîðä, è ñðåäñòâ íå îñòàëîñü :)

Ñ òî÷êè çðåíèÿ êîìáîâ ìåíÿ ëè÷íî çàèíòåðåñîâàë àòòåíþàòîð Tone King Iron Man (âñòðàèâàåìàÿ âåðñèÿ. ñåáå äëÿ ãîëîâû ÿ äóìàþ îá îáû÷íîì standalone áëîêå). Ïîçâîëÿåò ñäåëàòü èç ëþáîãî êîìáà Fender Princetone Recording Amp :) Íå çðÿ Òîí Êèíãîâñêèå Èìïåðèàë, Ôàëêîí è Ñêàéêèíã ñ÷èòàþòñÿ î÷åíü êðóòûìè êîìáàìè. Íî ñòîèò, êîíå÷íî, æóòêî. Êàê ÿ ïîíèìàþ, òàì îòäåëüíûå òðàíñû, êîòîðûå îòâå÷àþò ïîëîâèíà çà íàãðóçêó óñèëêà è íàãðóçêó äèíàìèêà+ çà êàæäóþ ñòóïåíü àòåííþàöèè äëÿ ñîõðàíåíèÿ ÷àñòîò.

http://www.proguitar.eu/ProGuitar.eu/Ironman.html#4

Âîò, ÷òî ïèøóò îá ýòîì âëàäåëüöû íåñêîëüêèõ àòòåíþàòîðîâ:

April 19th, 2012, 11:21 AM
I've got a lot of experience with attenuators, and I currently own both Weber Masses and THD Hotplates, as well as some simpler home-built L-Pad types. If you're only trying to knock a few decibels off for gigs, most attenuators are going to be fine, though in my experience the Weber ones sound better with Fender-voiced amps and the THD sounds better with Vox/Marshall voiced amps, so probably the THD would fit the sonic profile of the TA better than the Weber - see if you can't try both of them with the amp before choosing. However, if you're trying to reduce the output of a big amp to bedroom volume, the THD and the Weber, and other older-tech attenuators, aren't going to work without muffling the sound and making it sorta weird. That's where the newer-generation attenuators like the Alex and the Tone King and some others come in, they work well to reduce the output of big amps to very low levels and are quite transparent even with extreme attenuation, but they cost a LOT more.

Yup, my Tone King attenuator is completely transparent even when attenuating 40db, which is extreme. However, I only ever attenuate 3-6 db (if at all) at gigs, and at home I don't need to practice with overdrive, so I don't use the attenuator at home much.

DMC
03-12-2012, 03:13 PM
Took delivery on the Ironman last Friday and have been comparing it to the DX2 (Faustine) and Alex's for the last several days. Bottom line? With the tests I was able to conduct, they were all so transparent and so close to each other that it was just too close to call out a winner on sheer transparency alone. No matter what I did, I just could not develop a consistent opinion.

So, I fell back to just playing them each along to some loud music to see which felt and sounded best in context without even thinking about the details. This could change as I play some more but, right now, I'm really diggin' the Ironman. Seems to be the one that just melts away into oblivion the most while playing and while enjoying the most important thing of all - the music. So, there's my current highly scientific assessment. ;)

For anyone who got burned on the DX2 deal and is still looking for attenuation, the Alex is a great low cost, low-featured solution if you don't need multiple impedances. If you need the 4-8-16 ohm I/O impedance matching capability and speaker sim'ed line out features, then the Ironman is just killer and would run ya just over the cost of two Alex's, but still give you an extra impedance setting and speaker sim'ed line out.

The Ironman is bigger and will not fit on top of a vintage Marshall head cab though. I had to glue some strategically-placed taller rubber feet on the bottom of it to make that happen. Or, you can just place it on its side on the floor on a couple small blocks to allow air flow through the side vents.

The more I play the Ironman and compare to my other attenuators, the more I'm developing a strong preference for the Ironman. The big thing I'm noticing as playing time is logged is the amazing feel of the Ironman. It just plain FEELS better, especially when rifling off fast alternate-picked lines. They just roll off your hands with no fight while remaining clear and articulate. Love it!
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Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 14:50 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>Ïîçâîëÿåò ñäåëàòü èç ëþáîãî êîìáà Fender Princetone Recording Amp
Ýòî, êñòàòè, îòíþäü íå áåñøóìíûé òîâàðèù :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 14:52 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>Ñ òî÷êè çðåíèÿ êîìáîâ ìåíÿ ëè÷íî çàèíòåðåñîâàë àòòåíþàòîð Tone King Iron Man (âñòðàèâàåìàÿ âåðñèÿ. ñåáå äëÿ ãîëîâû ÿ äóìàþ îá îáû÷íîì standalone áëîêå). Ïîçâîëÿåò ñäåëàòü èç ëþáîãî êîìáà Fender Princetone Recording Amp
È ñòîèò îí, êñòàòè, êàê á/ó Fender Princetone Recording Amp :-)
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 15:18 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

ß ñåáå, êñòàòè, íàøåë íî÷íîå ëàìïîâîå ðåøåíèå.

 êóïëåííûé ñ ðóê ïî îêàçèè Zvex Nanohead ÷åðåç Koch LB120 íà ìèíóñ 4 db âïåðâûå â æèçíè ïî íî÷àì èãðàþ ñ õàðàêòåðíûì õðóñòîì îêîíå÷íèêà â ñòèëå ôåíäåðà è íå áóæó ðåáåíêà è ñîñåäåé :) À ñ ëàìïîâûì îâåðîì âíåøíèì ïîëó÷àåòñÿ âîëíå ñåáå êëàññè÷åñêèé ëàìïîâûé õàðäðîêîâûé ïåðåãðóç íà ãðîìêîñòè òèøå âåíòèëÿòîðà íîóòáóêà. È â îòëè÷èå îò ìàñòåð-ãðîìêîñòè è ïîëíîñòüþ çàäóøåííîãî àòòåíþàòîðà âïîëíå ñåáå æèâîé è äèíàìè÷íûé, ñ îòäà÷åé è áåç ìóòè. Òàêîå îùóùåíèå, ÷òî òèõî ãèòàðà, çàïèñàííàÿ íà CD èãðàåò.
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Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 15:20 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

Ìíå êàê ðàç íå äîìàøíåå ðåøåíèå íóæíî, à ÷òîáû íà ðàçíûõ ïëîùàäêàõ ñ ðàçíûì óðîâíå ãðîìêîñòè èãðàòü ñ îäèíàêîâûì çâóêîì íà îäíîêàíàëüíîì Ôåíäåðå)
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 15:32 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

Ïîïðîáóé BAd Cat Unleash :)

ß ñåáå ñìîòðþ âîò òàêîé âàðèàíò. Áåç àòòåíþàòîðà, íî ñ phase-4 (ñîâðåìåííîé ìîäèôèêàöèåé power scaling 0,1 - 40 W).



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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 15:42 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>Ïîïðîáóé BAd Cat Unleash
Âîò êàê ðàç ñåé÷àñ âñåðü¸ç îá ýòîì äóìàþ)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2013 23:47 
Ìîñêâà
Guitar

>Ïîïðîáóé BAd Cat Unleash
>ß ñåáå ñìîòðþ âîò òàêîé âàðèàíò. Áåç àòòåíþàòîðà, íî ñ phase-4 (ñîâðåìåííîé ìîäèôèêàöèåé power scaling 0,1 - 40 W).

Ýòîò äà?) http://www.badcatamps.com/the-leash.html ïðî íåãî âðîäå êàê íîðìàëüíî îòçûâàþòñÿ
íà âèäåî ôåíÿ íà áàçå òðàíñà ñ áîëüøèì êîëè÷åñòâîì âûâîäîâ âðîäå êàê ñàìûé òðóåâûé âàðèàíò, íà ãï ãîâîðèëè î ñâåùåíîé êîðîâå íà áàçå òðàíñôà ñ áîëüøèì êîë âîì âûâîäîâ êîòîðûé ñäåëàëà êàêàÿ åòà ôèðìà ïî êàíòðàêòó äëÿ ìàðøëà â èòîãå âñå ñîæðàëè áàáêè à òðó ïîñîíû èõ â ðàøêó íå îòïðàâëÿþò ãîâîðÿò âû íå äîñòîéíû)
Riff or die
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 23.10.2013 00:09 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

Íåò, âîò ýòîò:
http://www.badcatamps.com/unleash.html
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 23.10.2013 23:38 
Ìîñêâà
Guitar

>Íåò, âîò ýòîò:
>http://www.badcatamps.com/unleash.html
îê ñïàñèáî ïî÷èòàþ, ñðàâíþ, åñëè ÷òî çàäàì âîïðîñ)
Riff or die
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 29.11.2013 23:22 
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

Ðàç óæ çàòðàãèâàë ñàáæ â ýòîé òåìå, òî îòïèøóñü è çäåñü :)

Â÷åðà ñ íåêîòîðûìè ïåðèïåòèÿìè êóïèë ïîñëåäíèé ÷åðíûé Unleash èç ïåðâîé ïàðòèè â Ìîñêâå. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ãäå-òî â äåáðÿõ äåìîçàëà ïîòåðÿëèñü êîðîáêà ñî ñïèêåðíûì øíóðîì. Íó è ëàäíî, ïîäõîäÿùèé êàáåëü ñïèêîí-äæåê íàøåëñÿ â Ìóçòîðãå, à èìåþùèåñÿ äîìà 4õ êîíòàêòíûå ïåðåõîäíèêè äæåê-ñïèêîí ïî÷åìó òî íå çàðàáîòàëè (ìîæåò, íå òîé ñòîðîíîé âòûêàë). Âîîáùå, áðåä, êîíå÷íî, äåëàòü ðàçúåìû ê ãèòàðíûì êàáàì íà ñïèêîíàõ, à ê ãîëîâå íà äæåêå, íî ïåðåæèòü ìîæíî, ãëàâíîå íå çàáûâàòü ñ ñîáîé áðàòü, èíà÷å îò Unleashà òîëêó áóäåò ìàëî :)

 îáùåì, âïå÷àòëåíèÿ îò óñòðîéñòâà ñëåäóþùèå: Êàê àòòåíþàòîð ðàáîòàòü âïîëíå ìîæåò. Ñ ÷èñòûì è ÷óòü ïîäãðóæåííûì çâóêîì ñïðàâëÿåòñÿ íàìíîãî ëó÷øå, ÷åì ñ ïåðåãðóçîì (î ÷åì ïðîèçâîäèòåëü ÷åñòíî è ãîâîðèò). Âëàäåëüöåâ òâèíîâ è äåëþêñîâ (à òàêæå áýä êåòîâ) ïîðàäóåò íåñêàçàííî. ×òî è ïîíÿòíî, òàê êàê óñèëèòåëè êëàññà D ñ ÷èñòûì ñïðàâëÿþòñÿ îòëè÷íî è áåç ëàìïîâûõ ãîëîâ. Ñ ïåðåãðóçîì íà ñèëüíîé àòòåíþàöèè çâóê íà÷èíàåò ìóòíåòü, íî ìîæíî èñïðàâèòü ñèòóàöèþ ðåãóëèðîâêîé âõîäíîé ÷óâñòâèòåëüíîñòè è ýêâàëàéçåðîì ãîëîâû.

Âîîáùå, ïðèáîð ñîâåðøåííî íå ïîõîæ íà äðóãèå óñòðîéñòâà ïî óïðàâëåíèþ. Î÷åíü ìíîãîå çàâèñèò îò êîìáèíàöèè âõîäíàÿ ÷óâñòâèòåëüíîñòü - ãðîìêîñòü. Âîçìîæíûå âàðèàíòû: íåäîãðóæåííûé input/ãðîìêîñòü âûøå óðîâíÿ input, ïåðåãðóæåííûé input ñ êîìïðåññèåé/ãðîìêîñòü âûøå óðîâíÿ input, íåäîãðóæåííûé input/ãðîìêîñòü íèæå óðîâíÿ input è ïåðåãðóæåííûé input ñ êîìïðåññèåé/ãðîìêîñòü íèæå óðîâíÿ input.  çàâèñèìîñòè îò íàñòðîåííîé êîìáèíàöèè õàðàêòåð çâóêà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ðàçíûé. Ìíå ÷åðåç ïîë÷àñà ìó÷åíèé ñ êðóòèëêàìè óäàëîñü íàñòðîèòü âïîëíå óçíàâàåìûé è äîñòîéíûé çâóê ïåðåãðóæåííîãî ïîþùåãî ïëåêñè íà êîìíàòíîé ãðîìêîñòè: ïðîçðà÷íûé è çâîíêèé, ñ õðóñòîì è êðàí÷åì ïðè óáèðàíèè ðó÷êè ãðîìêîñòè íà ãèòàðå, êàê è ïîëîæåíî.

Íà íî÷íóþ ãðîìêîñòü ñ äîñòîéíûì çâóêîì ÿ ïîêà âûâåñòè åãî òàê è íå ñìîã, íî ñ îäíîêàíàëêîé áåç ìàñòåð-ãðîìêîñòè ýòî íå òàê è ïðîñòî.

 êà÷åñòâå óñèëèòåëÿ ÿ ïîïðîáîâàòü Unleash íå ñóìåë, òàê êàê îí ìîé Zvex Nanohead â óïîð íå çàìå÷àåò :) (â èíñòðóêöèè íàïèñàíî îò 2óõ âàòò ìèíèìóì). Íî, äóìàþ, âñå ñî çâóêîì áóäåò îê, ïðîñòî ëèíåéíîå óñèëåíèå ñèãíàëà.

Èç îñîáåííîñòåé ìîãó îòâåòèòü íåêîòîðîå îæèäàåìîå îñëàáëåíèå îáðàòíîé ñâÿçè ñ äèíàìèêîì ïðè óñèëåíèè àòòåíþàöèè. Ñ àòòåíþàòîðàìè òàêîãî íå ïðîèñõîäèò, íåñìîòðÿ íà ïîäæèðàíèå ñèãíàëà. Ïðè óñèëåíèè ãðîìêîñòè ýòîò ýôôåêò ïîñòåïåííî èñ÷åçàåò. Ïåòëÿ ïðîèçâåëà íà ìåíÿ äâîÿêîå âïå÷àòëåíèå: îòëè÷íî ñ äèëååì, è òàê ñåáå ñ þíèâàéáîì (êîòîðûé â ðàçðûâ ëàìïîâûõ ãîëîâ ðàáîòàåò ó ìåíÿ î÷åíü äîñòîéíî). Ìîæåò, ÿ ïðîñòî ñ íåé íå ðàçîáðàëñÿ, èëè ãðîìêîñòü áûëà ìàëåíüêàÿ. Íî îíà åñòü, à ýòî óæå ïëþñ. Ôóòñâèò÷ êàíàëû ïåðåêëþ÷àåò, òåõ êòî ëþáèò ÷èñòûé áóñò, îæèäàåò ðàäîñòü - êðîìå óðîâíÿ ãðîìêîñòè íå ìåíÿåòñÿ íè÷åãî (åùå êîìïðåññèÿ è ÷àñòîòêà ïðè ñèëüíîé ðàçíèöå êðóòèëîê êàíàëîâ: âûøå íàïèñàë ïðî êîìáèíàöèè)

Êàê ðåçþìå ìîãó ïîäûòîæèòü, ÷òî Unleash áóäåò ïðîñòî êëàññíûì ïîìîùíèêîì â êîíöåðòíîé ðàáîòå ìóçûêàíòàì, íå èñïîëüçóþùèì õàéãåéí. Äîìà îí òîæå íå ïîìåøàåò, ÿ åãî ñåáå îñòàâëþ (âñå-òàêè ïåðâûé ðàç äîìà óñëûøàë è ïîèãðàë ÷àñîê â ñâîé 50-âàòòíèê ñ çàáðèäæîâàííûìè êàíàëàìè è ðó÷êàìè íà äâà-òðè ÷àñà). Íå îäèí àòòåíþàòîð ïðèåìëåìîé ñòîèìîñòè òàêîãî ñäåëàòü íå ñïîñîáåí (ìîæåò, Aracom èëè Iron Man ñïðàâÿòñÿ, íî îíè è ñòîÿò ïî øòóêå áàêñîâ ñ äîñòàâêîé). Äëÿ íî÷íîé ãðîìêîñòè ñ ìîùíûìè ãîëîâàìè ÿ åãî íå ðåêîìåíäóþ, à âîò ñ ìàëîìîùíûìè âïîëíå ïîéäåò). Ïðî âñå îñòàëüíûå âàðèàíòû (õàéãåéí â êëóáàõ ñî ñòîâàòòíèêîâ è ðàáîòó â êà÷åñòâå óñèëèòåëÿ ñ ìåëêèìè ãîëîâàìè) íàïèøóò ïîòîì äðóãèå îáëàäàòåëè, ÿ ãàäàòü íå õî÷ó.

Ñîððè çà ìíîãî áóêâ :)

Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 30.11.2013 11:52 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

Yammi , :agree:
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 07.12.2013 00:20 
Ìîñêâà
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Riff or die
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Òåìà: Re: Àòòåíþàòîð
Âðåìÿ: 07.12.2013 09:55 
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American Standard Stratocaster

Ìíå ñî ñêèäêîé çà ïîòåðÿííóþ êîðîáêó â 12ê. Ñêîëüêî îí ñòîèò ðåàëüíî ìîæíî óâèäåòü ïî ïðàéñó , ïî ìîåìó, 14 ñ ÷åì-òî. Ïðîøëà íåäåëÿ è ÿ î÷åíü äîâîëåí. Äëÿ óñèëêîâ áåç ìàñòåð- ãðîìêîñòè ëó÷øèé âàðèàíò çà äîñòàòî÷íî ïðèåìëåìûå äåíüãè. ß ðåàëüíî èãðàþ ïî âå÷åðàì è äàæå èíîãäà íî÷üþ íà ðàñêà÷åííîì ïëåêñè. ×óòü ðåâåðà äëÿ àìáèåíñà, è çâóê îò çàïèñè 70ûõ òðóäíî îòëè÷èòü. . Äà è äëÿ äðóãèõ äîëæåí áûòü îòëè÷íûì.
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