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Ãèòàðíûå ýôôåêòû è êîìáèêè: îáñóæäåíèå ãèòàðíîãî îáîðóäîâàíèÿ

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Óâàæàåìûå ñïåöèàëèñòû, ïîÿñíèòå, ïî÷åìó â ðÿäå ìîäåëåé êîìïðåññîðîâ (Boss CS) êîëè÷åñòâî ðåãóëèðóþùèõ ýëåìåíòîâ áîëüøå ÷åì â äðóãèõ ìîäåëÿõ (MXR Custom Comp).

Îçíà÷àåò ëè ýòî óìåíüøåíèå ôóíêöèîíàëüíîñòè ïðèáîðà?
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Ìåäâåïóòèíñê
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õîëèâàð "ìíîãî ðó÷åê vs ìàëî ðó÷åê".
Ëþáîé ïåäàëè äîñòàòî÷íî âîîáùå îäíîé êíîïêè - "Ñäåëàòü censored".
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
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Áðÿíñê
Âîñåìü ïèðîãîâ è îäíà ñâå÷êà

>õîëèâàð "ìíîãî ðó÷åê vs ìàëî ðó÷åê"
:idea2:
Don't worry, shit happens...
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Ïåíçà


>Óâàæàåìûå ñïåöèàëèñòû, ïîÿñíèòå, ïî÷åìó â ðÿäå ìîäåëåé êîìïðåññîðîâ (Boss CS) êîëè÷åñòâî ðåãóëèðóþùèõ ýëåìåíòîâ áîëüøå ÷åì â äðóãèõ ìîäåëÿõ (MXR Custom Comp).
Îçíà÷àåò ëè ýòî óìåíüøåíèå ôóíêöèîíàëüíîñòè ïðèáîðà?

Ôóíêöèîíàëüíîñòü êîíå÷íî óìåíüøèòñÿ. Òîëüêî íå âñåì íóæåí øèðîêèé ôóíêöèîíàë. Êîìó-òî äîñòàòî÷íî ìèíèìóìà ðó÷åê, êòî-òî ëþáèò ïîêîïàòüñÿ â íàñòðîéêàõ ïîãëóáæå. Ìíîãî ðó÷åê - ýòî è ïëþñ è ìèíóñ. Ïëþñ - ìîæíî íàñòðîèòü ýôôåêò ïîä ñåáÿ, ìèíóñ - ñëîæíåå â íàñòðîéêå è áîëüøåå êîë-âî ðó÷åê íàäî ïåðåä èãðîé ïîäêðó÷èâàòü, åñëè â áîðäå ïðè ïåðåíîñêå ñáèâàþòñÿ.
Ïðîèçâîäèòåëü ãèòàðíîãî îáîðóäîâàíèÿ www.brightone.ru
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LED
hunter behind heads

òóò äåëî âêóñà è âîñïðèÿòèÿ çâóêà.
ß ëè÷íî íå ëþáëþ ìíîãî ðó÷åê, êðó÷ó ÷òî-ëèáî î÷åíü ðåäêî, à åñëè ïåäàëü çâó÷èò õîðîøî è âîîáùå áåç íèõ, òî ýòî ïðîñòî ïîäàðîê)
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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>Óâàæàåìûå ñïåöèàëèñòû, ïîÿñíèòå, ïî÷åìó â ðÿäå ìîäåëåé êîìïðåññîðîâ (Boss CS) êîëè÷åñòâî ðåãóëèðóþùèõ ýëåìåíòîâ áîëüøå ÷åì â äðóãèõ ìîäåëÿõ (MXR Custom Comp).
>Îçíà÷àåò ëè ýòî óìåíüøåíèå ôóíêöèîíàëüíîñòè ïðèáîðà?

Ñîâåòóþ ïî÷èòàòü, ÷òî òàêîå êîìïðåññîð, êàê ðàáîòàåò è êàê ñ íèì ïðàëüíî îáùàòüñÿ.
>ñpaòü ñåë, è âûëåòåëî âñ¸ èç ãîëîâû (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî

>ÿ ñïåðâà ïîìíèë, à ïîòîì ïåðåñòàë (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


×òî îñîáåííî èíòåðåñíî â äàííîé òåìå, ÷òî cs-3 è custom comp îáà èìåþò ïî 4 îðãàíà óïðàâëåíèÿ.
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ó ìåíÿ ñåé÷àñ íà êîìïðåññîðå âîîáùå 2 ðó÷êè - êîìïðåññèÿ è óðîâåíü :macho:
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

Ó ìåíÿ òîæå 2 ðó÷êè ó êîìïðåññîðà, åñëè áûëî áû áîëüøå - ÿ áû çàïóòàëñÿ(
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Ìîñêâà
Only Gibson is good enough!

Âîîáùå íåò êîìïðåññîðà :4:
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>Âîîáùå íåò êîìïðåññîðà


ýòî -- óæàñòíî :cry2:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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>Âîîáùå íåò êîìïðåññîðà
âîîáùå íåò ðó÷åê
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Ìîñêâà
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Ó íåêîòîðûõ êîìïðåññîðîâ äàæå ñòóäèéíûõ òîëüêî ðó÷êà ãåéí è òðåøîëä, àòàêà ðåëèç òàì àâòîìàòè÷åñêèå, äëÿ ÷åãî òî ïîäõîäèò äëÿ ÷åãî òî íå î÷åíü... à äëÿ ãèòàðû àòàêà è ðåëèç òàì òîæå àâòîìàòè÷åñêèå ëèáî ñ ïîñòîÿííû òê ìåíÿòü èõ íå íàäî ó ãèòàðû àòàêà âñåãäà îäèíàêîâàÿ ïëþñ ìèíóñ. Õî÷åøü çàïàðèòüñÿ ñ êîìïðåññîðîì: ìíîãî ðó÷åê. Õî÷åøü íå ïàðèòüñÿ: òðåøîëä è ãåéí.
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ìîñêâà
áåðåçîâàÿ êîðà

âîáàíà ðåáçÿ êàê ðàç â òî÷êó òåìà,âçÿë íà äíÿõ êîìïðåññîð - è íå ïîéìó êàêîãî ÷åðòà îí òàê ñèëüíî ðåæåò ÷àñòîòû? ýòî òîëüêî ó ìåíÿ òàê èëè ó âñåõ?
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>è íå ïîéìó êàêîãî ÷åðòà îí òàê ñèëüíî ðåæåò ÷àñòîòû?
ýòî ñîâéñòâî êîìïðåññîðà ïðè ÷åì áîëüøå êîìïðåññèÿ òåì áîëüøå ïðîñàæèâàþòñÿ âåðõà
Film-Post production. Music production. https://vk.com/dygai_band
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Ìîñêâà
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íî ýòî íå ó âñåõ êîìïðåññîðîâ.
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ìîñêâà
áåðåçîâàÿ êîðà

íèôèãàñå âåðõà - îí óáèðàåò íà íîëü âåñü áàñ,à êîãäà èãðàåøü àêêîðäàìè â ïàëüöåâîì ñòèëå - ãðîìêîñòü óáèðàåòñÿ âäâîå,èãðàåøü ñîëÿãè îïÿòü ãðîìêî
ÓÕÎ ÃÎÐËÎ ÍÎÑ
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Ìîñêâà
Offline

àíåãîãíîëèòûêóïèë? :da:
Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
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ìîñêâà
áåðåçîâàÿ êîðà

à äà,âîò òàêîé ó ìåíÿ åñëè ÷òî
ÓÕÎ ÃÎÐËÎ ÍÎÑ
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>íèôèãàñå âåðõà - îí óáèðàåò íà íîëü âåñü áàñ,à êîãäà èãðàåøü àêêîðäàìè â ïàëüöåâîì ñòèëå - ãðîìêîñòü óáèðàåòñÿ âäâîå,èãðàåøü ñîëÿãè îïÿòü ãðîìêî
íó íå çíàþ ÷òî òàì çà ñõåìîòåõíèêà êîìïðåññîðà
>à êîãäà èãðàåøü àêêîðäàìè â ïàëüöåâîì ñòèëå - ãðîìêîñòü óáèðàåòñÿ âäâîå
ýòî ðàòèî áîëüøîå ó íåãî è òðåøîëä âûñîêèé, òû èãðàåøü àêêîðäàìè íà÷èíàåò ñèëüíî êîìïðåññèòü è ãðîìêîñòü åñòåñíî ïàäàåò. äëÿ ýòîãî åñòü ðó÷êà ïèê ðåäàêøèí(òðåøîëä) èëè êàê òàì îíà íàçûâàåòñÿ ó òåáÿ :4:
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ìîñêâà
áåðåçîâàÿ êîðà

ó ìåíÿ íåò íèêàêèõ ðåøîëäëîâ - ó ìåíÿ ðó÷êà ãðîìêîñòè è ÷óñòâèòåëüíîñòü è âñå
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ñàðàòîâ
banhammer

>è ÷óñòâèòåëüíîñòü

ýòî è åñòü òðåøõîëä - ïîðîã ñðàáàòûâàíèÿ êîìïðåññîðà.



íó à ñ òîíàëüíûì áàëàíñîì êàæäûé êîíêðåòíûé êîìïðåññîð òâîðèò ñâîå, òóò òåáå âðÿä ëè êòî ïîäñêàæåò îòíîñèòåëüíî ýòîé ïåäàëè, ïî÷åìó îíà òàê äåëàåò.
êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð :7:
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>íó à ñ òîíàëüíûì áàëàíñîì êàæäûé êîíêðåòíûé êîìïðåññîð òâîðèò ñâîå
äà, òóò òîëüêî ïîäáèðàòü ÷òî òåáå íàäî îò çâóêà êîìïðåññîðà
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>>Âîîáùå íåò êîìïðåññîðà
>âîîáùå íåò ðó÷åê

Çàòî åñòü êíîïêà censored è íåÒÐÓÚ. :ves12:
>ñpaòü ñåë, è âûëåòåëî âñ¸ èç ãîëîâû (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî

>ÿ ñïåðâà ïîìíèë, à ïîòîì ïåðåñòàë (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî
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Ìåäâåïóòèíñê
Microkorg XL

Òèïè÷íûé êîìïðåññîð íàòàñêèâàåòñÿ äëÿ ðåàãèðîâàíèÿ íà îïðåäåëåííûå ÷àñòîòû (êàê ïðàâèëî, ñðåäíèå), ê îñòàëüíûì ÷àñòîòàì îí ñëåï. Ïëþñ ðàíüøå îñîáî íå ïàðèëèñü, íèç è âåðõ ãèòàðíîãî äèàïàçîíà ðåçàëè, ÷òîáû íå ïåðäåëî è íå ñêðåæåòàëî.
Ñåêðåò óñïåõà òîãî æå EBS, ÷òî îí àæ íà äâà äèàïàçîíà ÷àñòîò ðåàãèðóåò. Íà ýòîì íîâîå â ïåäàëüíûõ êîìïðåññîðàõ çà ïîñëåäíèå 40 ëåò çàêàí÷èâàåòñÿ.
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
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>Òèïè÷íûé êîìïðåññîð íàòàñêèâàåòñÿ äëÿ ðåàãèðîâàíèÿ íà îïðåäåëåííûå ÷àñòîòû (êàê ïðàâèëî, ñðåäíèå), ê îñòàëüíûì ÷àñòîòàì îí ñëåï
ýòî êàêîé òàêîé òèïè÷íûé? :ves001: ëþáîé êîìïðåñîð ïî îïðåäåëåíèþ ðàáîòàåò â øèðîêîì äèàïàçîíå ÷àñòîò, âñå ÷òî êîìïðåññèò òîëüêî îïðåäåëåííóþ ïîëîñó ÷àñòîò ýòî ïîëîñîâîé êîìïðåññîð è ê ãèòàðå îíè èìåþò âåñüìà ïîñðåäñòâåííîå îòíîøåíèå.
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>íèç è âåðõ ãèòàðíîãî äèàïàçîíà ðåçàëè, ÷òîáû íå ïåðäåëî è íå ñêðåæåòàëî
äåëàþò ýòî è ïî ñåé äåíü
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ìîñêâà
áåðåçîâàÿ êîðà

ðåáçÿ,îêàçûâàòüñÿ ÷òîáû ìåíÿ âñå óñòðàèâàëî - íàäîáíî ýòó ñàìóþ êàê âû ãðèòå òðåøõîëä óáèðàòü ïî÷òè íà íåò - ò å ãäå òî íà òðîå÷êó! âîí îíî ÷å ìåõàëû÷
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>íàäîáíî ýòó ñàìóþ êàê âû ãðèòå òðåøõîëä óáèðàòü ïî÷òè íà íåò - ò å ãäå òî íà òðîå÷êó!
íó åñëè íàäî ÷òî áû íå êîìïðåññèë ñèëüíî. À âîîáùå åñëè íóæíî ïî ñèëüíåå, òî ó òåáÿ ðóêà ãåéí åñòü, ÷òî áû êîìïåíñèðîâàòü ïîíèæåíèå óðîâíÿ. ×åì áîëüøå êîìïðåññèÿ òåì áîëüøå êîìïðåññîð ïðîÿâëÿåò ñâîé õàðàêòåð.
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>>Òèïè÷íûé êîìïðåññîð íàòàñêèâàåòñÿ äëÿ ðåàãèðîâàíèÿ íà îïðåäåëåííûå ÷àñòîòû (êàê ïðàâèëî, ñðåäíèå), ê îñòàëüíûì ÷àñòîòàì îí ñëåï
>ýòî êàêîé òàêîé òèïè÷íûé? ëþáîé êîìïðåñîð ïî îïðåäåëåíèþ ðàáîòàåò â øèðîêîì äèàïàçîíå ÷àñòîò, âñå ÷òî êîìïðåññèò òîëüêî îïðåäåëåííóþ ïîëîñó ÷àñòîò ýòî ïîëîñîâîé êîìïðåññîð è ê ãèòàðå îíè èìåþò âåñüìà ïîñðåäñòâåííîå îòíîøåíèå.

íàäî ñìîòðåòü âûïðÿìèòåëü, ïî íèçó ìíîãèå äåëàþò ð-ð-ð , èëè ÷òîáû íå äåëàòü, òóïî íèç ôèëüòðóþò.
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
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>íàäî ñìîòðåòü âûïðÿìèòåëü
âûïðÿìèòåëü ÷åãî? :ves001:
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ðóê, ÷åãî. Íàïðÿæåíèÿ êîíå÷íî æå.
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
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>ðóê, ÷åãî. Íàïðÿæåíèÿ êîíå÷íî æå
À ïðè÷ñåì òóò êîìïðåññèèÿ è ïèòàþùåå íàïðÿæåíèå? òåìáîëå åãî ñâÿçü ñ ôâ÷????
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>íàäî ñìîòðåòü âûïðÿìèòåëü, ïî íèçó ìíîãèå äåëàþò ð-ð-ð , èëè ÷òîáû íå äåëàòü, òóïî íèç ôèëüòðóþò.
÷òî ñìîòðåòü íà âûïðÿìèòåëü?! íè÷åãî íîâîãî òàì íå áóäåò: äèîäíûé ìîñò ôèëüòðóþùèå ïóëüñàöèè êîíäåðû è ñòàáèëèçàòîð... âûïðÿìèòåëü êîíå÷íî âëèÿåò íà çâóê, íó íå â òàêîé ñòåïåíè ÷òî áû ãîâîðèòü, ÷òî îí çàäàåò êàêîé òî õàðàêòåð êîìïðåññîðà, ÷òî òî ñ à÷õ ïðèáîðà äåëàåò... â ÷åì ñóòü ýòîãî ãëóáîêîãî âûñêàçûâàíèÿ?
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â òîì, ÷òî ïðåæäå, ÷åì âûòÿãèâàòü ãðîìêîñòü ñèãíàëà, íàäî èçìåðèòü åãî àìïëèòóäó. ×òîáû å¸ èçìåðèòü, íàäî ïðîãëîòèòü è ïðîèíòåãðèðîâàòü íåñêîëüêî èìïóëüñîâ. Åñëè øèðèíà îêíà íåäîñòàòî÷íàÿ (à íà áàñó 27.5 ãåðö íà íèæíåé ëÿ, äîïóñòèì), òî êîìïðåññîð âûäàåò "ð-ð-ð" ïóòàÿñü â îáðûâêàõ áàñîâûõ êîëåáàíèé. À åñëè îêíî ñèëüíî øèðîêîå, òî îí íå òÿíåò ìåëêèå äåòàëè è îïàçäûâàåò.
Öâåòîâ íå íàäî, ìîæåò íà ïåíñèè êíèãó ïðî ïðèìî÷êè íàïèøó.
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
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>â òîì, ÷òî ïðåæäå, ÷åì âûòÿãèâàòü ãðîìêîñòü ñèãíàëà, íàäî èçìåðèòü åãî àìïëèòóäó. ×òîáû å¸ èçìåðèòü, íàäî ïðîãëîòèòü è ïðîèíòåãðèðîâàòü íåñêîëüêî èìïóëüñîâ. Åñëè øèðèíà îêíà íåäîñòàòî÷íàÿ (à íà áàñó 27.5 ãåðö íà íèæíåé ëÿ, äîïóñòèì), òî êîìïðåññîð âûäàåò "ð-ð-ð" ïóòàÿñü â îáðûâêàõ áàñîâûõ êîëåáàíèé. À åñëè îêíî ñèëüíî øèðîêîå, òî îí íå òÿíåò ìåëêèå äåòàëè è îïàçäûâàåò.
à êîìïðåññîð âûòÿãèâàåò ãðîìêîñòü? ýòî ÷òî òî íîâîå... êàêèõ åùå èìïóëüñîâ? :oooi: êîìðïåññîð íà ðàñêëàäûâàåò â ðÿäû ôóðüå ñèãíàë, îí ðàáîòàåò ñ îãèáàþùåé. Ñ áàñîì ÂÖÀ êîìïðåññîð ðàáîòàåò ïðîñòî íà óðà... íè êàêèõ ððð ÿ îò íå ãî íå ñëûøàë... òåì áîëåå ÷òî áû êîìïðåññîð ïóòàëñÿ â êàêèõ òî îáðûâêàõ êîëåáàíèé :lol:
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>à êîìïðåññîð âûòÿãèâàåò ãðîìêîñòü? ýòî ÷òî òî íîâîå...
à ÷òî æå îí äåëàåò? :sarcastic:
ãðîìêèé ñèãíàë - äåëàåò òèøå, òèõèé - ãðîì÷å.
÷òîá ïîíÿòü, ÷òî äåëàòü, îí äîëæåí ýòó ãðîìêîñòü çàìåðÿòü. òóò òî è ïðîáëåìà.
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satix , ñ òèõèì îí êàê ðàç íè ÷åãî è íå äåëàåò. Îí íè ÷åãî ÍÅ ïîäíèìåò :onotole: îí òîëüêî óìåíüøàåò àìïëèòóäó ñèãíàëà êîòîðàÿ ïîäíèìàåòñÿ âûøå ïîðîãà åãî ñðàáàòûâàíèÿ.
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>Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:55
äîêòîð ïåðåõîäíóþ õàðàêòåðèñòèêà êîìïðåññîðà âûêëàäûâàë! Ïîãëÿäè çàâèñèìîñòü âûõ íàïðÿæåíèÿ îò âõ
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>satix , ñ òèõèì îí êàê ðàç íè ÷åãî è íå äåëàåò.
ýòî çàâèñèò îò êîìïðåññîðà.
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ÍÅÒ!!!
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äëÿ íà÷àëà ìîæíî áûëî ïðî÷èòàòü òåîðèþ íå ýêñïàíäåðà, à êîìïðåññîðà, ìû âåäü ïðî êîìïðåññîðà îáùàåìñÿ?
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ÍÅ ÊÐÈ×È!!! :pitka:
ÿ, íàïðèìåð, íå ïðî êîìïðåññîðà, à ïðî êîìïðåññîðû..

âîò, ôàêòè÷åñêè, ÷òî òàì ïðîèõîäèò
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>ÍÅ ÊÐÈ×È!!!
ÍÅ ÁÓÄÓ! :pardon:
>âîò, ôàêòè÷åñêè, ÷òî òàì ïðîèõîäèò
Ñòðàííûé ãèòàðíûé êîìïðåññîð... ýòî áîëüøå ïîõîæå íà õàðàêòåðèñòèêó íåëèíåéíîãî óñèëèòåëÿ. ñ ðåæèìîì íàñûùåíèÿ.
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satix, òû ìåøàåøü îïïîíåíòó áëåñòíóòü çíàíèÿìè. Íó è ôèã ñ íèì, ÷òî îãèáàþùàÿ äîëæíà îòêóäà-òî âçÿòüñÿ ;) Âèäèìî, ñ äîïîëíèòåëüíîãî ãèòàðíîãî âûõîäà.
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
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>satix, òû ìåøàåøü îïïîíåíòó áëåñòíóòü çíàíèÿìè. Íó è ôèã ñ íèì, ÷òî îãèáàþùàÿ äîëæíà îòêóäà-òî âçÿòüñÿ Âèäèìî, ñ äîïîëíèòåëüíîãî ãèòàðíîãî âûõîäà.
òû âåäü ïûòàåøüñÿ áëåñòàòü, à íå ÿ, ãîâîðèøü õîðîøèì òåõíè÷åñêèì ñëîãîì :agree: ïðî âûïðÿìèòåëè ïåðåìåííîãî íàïðÿæåíèÿ â êîìïðåññîðå îò êîòîðûõ ÷òî òî çàâèñèò, íåïîíÿòíî òîëüêî ÷òî :golod06:
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>íèôèãàñå âåðõà - îí óáèðàåò íà íîëü âåñü áàñ,à êîãäà èãðàåøü àêêîðäàìè â ïàëüöåâîì ñòèëå - ãðîìêîñòü óáèðàåòñÿ âäâîå,èãðàåøü ñîëÿãè îïÿòü ãðîìêî

òàê óñòðîåíû ïðîñòûå êîìïðåññîðû. îí áåðåò âõîäíîé ñèãíàë, ñìîòðèò åãî àìïëèòóäó íà çàäàííîì îòðåçêå (îêíå) âðåìåíè, è óñèëèâàåò ñëåäóþùèé èäóùèé ñåãìåíò äî ïîòîëêà.

Êîãäà ó òåáÿ áàñ, èëè ñîëÿê, òî îäíà íîòà, äîïóñòèì, 1 âîëüò, óñèëèâàåòñÿ äî ïîòîëêà, äîïóñòèì, 5 âîëüò. Èòîãî, óñèëåíèå â 5 ðàç.
Êîãäà ïðèëåòàåò ïà÷êà (àêêîðä, äîïóñòèì, 2 âîëüòà), òî îí íå ìîæåò åå óñèëèòü â 5 ðàç, à ìîæåò òîëüêî â 2.5 ðàçà, èáî ïîòîëîê îáùèé. Ïî ýòîìó ñîëÿê èëè áàñ â 2 ðàçà ãðîì÷å àêêîðäà. À ó÷èòûâàÿ åùå è îñîáåííîñòè ÷åëîâå÷åñêîãî óõà, íà÷èíàåòñÿ íåáîëüøàÿ ñâèñòîïëÿñêà, ò.ê. ñðåäíèå ÷àñòîòû óõî âîñïðèíèìàåò ëó÷øå.
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
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>Êîãäà ïðèëåòàåò ïà÷êà (àêêîðä, äîïóñòèì, 2 âîëüòà), òî îí íå ìîæåò åå óñèëèòü â 5 ðàç, à ìîæåò òîëüêî â 2.5 ðàçà, èáî ïîòîëîê îáùèé.
à âàì íå êàæåòñÿ ÷òî ýòî ñëåãêà íå êîìïðåññîð?
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Randall , òû ñàìûé îáû÷íûé Dynacomp â ðóêàõ äåðæàë? :)
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äåðæàë,ûëî äåëî, íî äàâíî
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íó âîò, îí òàê ðàáîòàåò.
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>>Êîãäà ïðèëåòàåò ïà÷êà (àêêîðä, äîïóñòèì, 2 âîëüòà), òî îí íå ìîæåò åå óñèëèòü â 5 ðàç, à ìîæåò òîëüêî â 2.5 ðàçà, èáî ïîòîëîê îáùèé.
>à âàì íå êàæåòñÿ ÷òî ýòî ñëåãêà íå êîìïðåññîð?

âîîáùå-òî ñî âðåìåí Ross Compressor îíè ðàáîòàþò âñå áîëåå-ìåíåå òàê. Èñêëþ÷åíèå ïðèâåäåíî âûøå.
Çà èäåàëüíûì êà÷åñòâîì, ýòî óæå ê ñòóäèéíûì ñîôòîâûì êîìïðåññîðàì, èáî ó ôàéëà, êîãäà íå îãðàíè÷åí â ÷èñëå ïðîõîäîâ, æàòü äèíàìè÷åñêèé äèàïàçîí î÷åíü ïðîñòî. Îñîáåííî, åñëè ýòî ñîëÿê.

À ñ ãèòàðíûì - ìèíèìóì ðó÷åê, ò.ê. âûïðÿìèòåëü-èíòåãðàòîð êàê ïðàâèëî çàæàò æåëåçíî, ãîðèçîíòàëüíîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ (âðåìåíåì), âûõîäèò, ÷òî íåò. Ñëåâà ïåðäåæ, ñïðàâà ñëåïàÿ çîíà. Âåðòèêàëüíîå (àìïëèòóäà, îãèáàþùàÿ, ADSR) óæå îáñóäèëè.
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
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