| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2013 10:38 | |
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| Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine    | Âîò ñòðîêà, êîòîðàÿ ïîäáèëà ìåíÿ íà ñîçäàíèå òåìû: Leo Fender's patent for his 1st electric guitar was filed on this day in 1951. (ðå÷ü î 23 àïðåëÿ) Òàêèì îáðàçîì, â÷åðà, 23 àïðåëÿ, ìîæåò ñ÷èòàòüñÿ âàæíûì äëÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðèçìà äíåì: êîãäà Ëåî ïîäàë çàÿâêó íà ïàòåíò ïåðâîé â ìèðå ìàññîâî âûïóñêàþùåéñÿ öåëüíîêîðïóñíîé ãèòàðû. ×òî âû äóìàåòå ïî ïîâîäó òî÷êè îòñ÷åòà? Ðîæäåíèåì ãðóïïû òðàäèöèîííî ñ÷èòàåòñÿ äàòà ïåðâîãî êîíöåðòà. ×òî ñ÷èòàòü äàòîé âîçíèêíîâåíèÿ ýëåêòðè÷åñêèõ ãèòàð?   | |
| Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90->  T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616 | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2013 10:40 | |
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| ×àïàåâñê Vintage V100IT      | ïðèäåðæèâàþñü ìíåíèÿ, ÷òî äàòîé ðîæäåíèÿ ÿâëÿåòñÿ äàòà ñîçäàíèÿ â æèâóþ 1 ýêçåìïëÿðà è íå âàæíî ñ ïàòåíòîì èëè áåç îíîãî, íî òî ìîå ñêðîìíîå ìíåíèå | |
| Vintage V100IT->AMT Stonehead-50-4->Korg Pandora Stomp->1x12 Legend128 | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2013 10:48 | |
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| ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð      | >çàÿâêó íà ïàòåíò ïåðâîé â ìèðå ìàññîâî âûïóñêàþùåéñÿ öåëüíîêîðïóñíîé ãèòàðû. íó, èìåííî öåëüíîêîðïóñíîé. Ñìîòðÿ, ÷òî ñ÷èòàòü èìåííî ýëåêòðîãèòàðîé.  È äæàç áàíêè òîæå ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, è ãèòàðà ïðîñòî ñ äàò÷èêîì óæå ïðàêòè÷åñêè ýëåêòðîãèòàðà. Ñêîðåå âñåãî, ýòî ðîæäåíèÿ íîâîãî ïðåäïðèÿòèÿ - ôîðìû Ôåíäåð.   | |
| " Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2013 11:10 | |
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| Ìîñêâà Gretsch 6120      | Äåíü Ðîæäåíüå Òåëåêàñòåðà!   | |
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| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2013 11:16 | |
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| Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine    | Òóê , áëèí. âñ¸. íàäî òåëåêàñòåð-ïàòè ïðîâîäèòü. ïðîñðàëè âñå ïîëèìåðû óæå... | |
| Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90->  T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616 | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2013 11:21 | |
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| Ìîñêâà Gretsch 6120      | >Òóê , áëèí. âñ¸. íàäî òåëåêàñòåð-ïàòè ïðîâîäèòü. ïðîñðàëè âñå ïîëèìåðû óæå... Ïîäàðè ìíå òåëåêàñòåð, ïîó÷àñòâóþ   | |
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| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2013 11:25 | |
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| Ìîñêâà Fender Stratocaster      | Ñîãëàñåí ñ Ä.Ð. òåëåêàñòåðà. Èëè öåëüíîäåðåâÿííûõ ãèòàð. Èëè ïðîñòî, åù¸ îäèí ïîâîä âûïèòü   | |
| Fender Stratocaster  =>  VOX Big Bad Wah => Boss CS-2 => Boss CE-2 => Boss SD-1 => Boss HM-2 => Big Muff Pi => Boss GE-7 => Boss DD-2 =>  MXR Phase 90 EVH =>  Øèôòóÿ...  Êàê-òî òàê, ïîêà=) | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2013 13:55 | |
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|    | >. íàäî òåëåêàñòåð-ïàòè ïðîâîäèòü. êîíå÷íî íàäî âîçüìó ñâîé Õîðàéçîí ñ îòñå÷êîé è áóäåò êðàñíóøíûé òåëåê â ôîðìå ñòðàòà ñî ñêâîçíûì ãðèôîì çàòî ñòðóíû ÷åðåç êîðïóñ êàê ó òåëåêà   | |
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| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2013 17:49 | ||
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| Âîðîíåæ Gibson LP Custom      | Äà óæææ!Êðóòàÿ ãèòàðà!ß Äàæå íà íåé èãðàþ !õîòÿ åñòü Ãèïñ è ñòðààò!Ëþáëþ Ìóæèê Êóõîííóþ ðàêîâèíó äëÿ ïîïñû!Ò å ñòðàò! | ||
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| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2013 10:16 | |
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| Peavey 00805560 neck+explorer body      | ÷òîá íe ñîçäaâaòü îòäeëüíî òeìó: íèêîãäa íe èíòeðeñîâaëñÿ âeëè÷èíîé áýíäa. Âîò, ïðèïåðëî. ×àñòî ñëûøó, ïîäòÿæêà íà òîí. ß ïðîáóþ òÿíóòü ñòðóíó ïî ìàêñèìóìó, ïðîâåðÿþ ïî òþíåðó, íó íèêàê íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ õîòÿ áû íà òîí óâåëè÷èòü. À ëþäè è íà áîëüøå òÿíóò) Îáúÿñíèòå!) | |
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| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2013 10:19 | |
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| Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine    | sanyabass , à ÷òî òåáÿ ïîáóäèëî èìåííî â ýòîé òåìå çàäàâàòü âîïðîñ? | |
| Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90->  T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616 | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2013 17:31 | |
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|    | ìîæåò, äðóãèå ëþäè ýòî íå íà áàñó äåëàþò?   | |
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| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2013 22:28 | |
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| Ìîñêâà.      | Òàêèì îáðàçîì, â÷åðà, 23 àïðåëÿ, ìîæåò ñ÷èòàòüñÿ âàæíûì äëÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðèçìà äíåì: êîãäà Ëåî ïîäàë çàÿâêó íà ïàòåíò ïåðâîé â ìèðå ìàññîâî âûïóñêàþùåéñÿ öåëüíîêîðïóñíîé ãèòàðû. òîãäà óæ äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ôèðìû Fender.   __________ sanyabass , à ÷òî òåáÿ ïîáóäèëî èìåííî â ýòîé òåìå çàäàâàòü âîïðîñ?   | |
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| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2013 22:45 | |
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| Pey whiskey Love siski      | >÷òîá íe ñîçäaâaòü îòäeëüíî òeìó: >íèêîãäa íe èíòeðeñîâaëñÿ âeëè÷èíîé áýíäa. Âîò, ïðèïåðëî. >×àñòî ñëûøó, ïîäòÿæêà íà òîí. ß ïðîáóþ òÿíóòü ñòðóíó ïî ìàêñèìóìó, ïðîâåðÿþ ïî òþíåðó, íó íèêàê íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ õîòÿ áû íà òîí óâåëè÷èòü. À ëþäè è íà áîëüøå òÿíóò) Îáúÿñíèòå!) Çíà÷ ñëàáàê, åøü êàøó   Íà 1,5 òîíà òÿíåòñÿ âïîëíå ñåáå. | |
| >ñpaòü ñåë, è âûëåòåëî âñ¸ èç ãîëîâû (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî >ÿ ñïåðâà ïîìíèë, à ïîòîì ïåðåñòàë (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 01:08 | |
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| Ìîñêâà     | >÷òîá íe ñîçäaâaòü îòäeëüíî òeìó: >íèêîãäa íe èíòeðeñîâaëñÿ âeëè÷èíîé áýíäa. Âîò, ïðèïåðëî. >×àñòî ñëûøó, ïîäòÿæêà íà òîí. ß ïðîáóþ òÿíóòü ñòðóíó ïî ìàêñèìóìó, ïðîâåðÿþ ïî òþíåðó, íó íèêàê íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ õîòÿ áû íà òîí óâåëè÷èòü. À ëþäè è íà áîëüøå òÿíóò) Îáúÿñíèòå!) ó òÿ äèêî áîëüøîãî êàëèáðà ñòðóíû?  ïîñòàâü ïîìåíüøå 9-êó, 10-êó, òÿíóòü áåíäû ýòîæ îñíîâà îñíîâ. è ïîëòîðà òÿíóò è íà 2   | |
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| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 01:20 | |
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| Pey whiskey Love siski      | >>÷òîá íe ñîçäaâaòü îòäeëüíî òeìó: >>íèêîãäa íe èíòeðeñîâaëñÿ âeëè÷èíîé áýíäa. Âîò, ïðèïåðëî. >>×àñòî ñëûøó, ïîäòÿæêà íà òîí. ß ïðîáóþ òÿíóòü ñòðóíó ïî ìàêñèìóìó, ïðîâåðÿþ ïî òþíåðó, íó íèêàê íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ õîòÿ áû íà òîí óâåëè÷èòü. À ëþäè è íà áîëüøå òÿíóò) Îáúÿñíèòå!) >ó òÿ äèêî áîëüøîãî êàëèáðà ñòðóíû? ïîñòàâü ïîìåíüøå 9-êó, 10-êó, òÿíóòü áåíäû ýòîæ îñíîâà îñíîâ. è ïîëòîðà òÿíóò è íà 2 êòî-òî òàì íà îêòàâó ïîäòÿãèâàë(åò), íàïîìíèòå   | |
| >ñpaòü ñåë, è âûëåòåëî âñ¸ èç ãîëîâû (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî >ÿ ñïåðâà ïîìíèë, à ïîòîì ïåðåñòàë (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 08:25 | |
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| ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð      | >Çíà÷ ñëàáàê, åøü êàøó >Íà 1,5 òîíà òÿíåòñÿ âïîëíå ñåáå. íà áîñó? >sanyabass > ÅÀDG Bass   | |
| " Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 10:55 | |
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| Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè      | Âñåãäà ñ÷èòàë, ÷òî ïåðâàÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðà áûëà ñîçäàíà Ïîëîì Áèãñáè â 1948 ãîäó äëÿ Ìåðëè Òðåâèñà   òåëåê - ýòî åãî äîíåëüçÿ óïðîùåííàÿ äëÿ ïîòî÷íîãî ïðîèçâîäñòâî êîïèÿ èçíà÷àëüíî     | |
| "òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò "It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 11:14 | |
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| Ìîñêâà Fuzz Faces    | >Âñåãäà ñ÷èòàë, ÷òî ïåðâàÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðà áûëà ñîçäàíà Ïîëîì Áèãñáè â 1948 ãîäó äëÿ Ìåðëè Òðåâèñà êðàñèâàÿ   | |
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| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 11:15 | |
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| Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine    | Choko , ÿ çíàë, ÷òî êòî-òî ýòî íàïèøåò)) ïîòîìó óêàçàë ñïåöèàëüíî - >ïåðâîé â ìèðå ìàññîâî âûïóñêàþùåéñÿ öåëüíîêîðïóñíîé ãèòàðû Åñëè áû Ëåî Ô. ïîä âïå÷àòëåíèåì îò Òðýâèñîâñêîé ãèòàðû íå íà÷àë ìàññîâî øòàìïîâàòü ñâîè äîñêè - ìîæåò áûòü, âñå áûëî áû èíà÷å. Ïîñêîëüêó øòó÷íûé òîâàð Ïîëà Áèãñáè íèêàê íå îêàçàë áû òîãî âëèÿíèÿ íà ìàññîâîå ãèòàðèñòñêîå ñîçíàíèå)) | |
| Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90->  T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616 | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 11:17 | |
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| Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè      | Êóðè êàê ìàëî Áèãñáè ãèòàð íàñòðóãàë     | |
| "òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò "It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 11:24 | |
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| Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine    | Choko , êëåâûé ñàéò, ñïàñèáî)) âñåãäà áûëî èíòåðåñíî, êàê îíè ó íåãî çâó÷àò)) Íî òû ïîíÿë î ÷åì ÿ. Ýòî âñå ðàâíî - øòó÷íûé òîâàð))) | |
| Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90->  T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616 | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 11:31 | |
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| Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè      | Íó ýòî âñå íà ñàìîì äåëå ñïîðíî. Òóò ñèëüíî êîðåæèò âïå÷àòëåíèå ãðàìîòíàÿ ìàðêåòèíãîâàÿ ðåêëàìà íûíåøíèõ Ôåíäåðîâ è Ãèáñîíîâ. Îíè ëþáÿò ñåé÷àñ ëåïèòü ñåáå äèôèðàìáû è íàìåðåííî èñêàæàòü èñòîðè÷åñêèå ôàêòû. Ïðî òó æå ñêîâîðîäêó Ðèêåíáåêåðà çíàþò òîëüêî ìàíüÿêè   Êòî çíàåò êàê áû âûãëÿäåëî ëèöî ãèòàðèçìà, åñëè áû òîò æå Áèãçáè ðàñêðóòèëñÿ êàê Ôåíäåð. Ïîñòî Ëåî áûë ïðîçîðëèâûì ïî ÷àñòè ïàòåíòîâ, ïîòîìó ðåâíîñòíî ïàòåíòîâàë êàæäûé ñâîé ÷èõ. Íà ÷òî ïîòîì ñàì íàïîðîëñÿ êîãäà óøåë â G&L   | |
| "òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò "It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 11:33 | |
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| Áàðíàóë Fender Am Deluxe Strat      | >>ó òÿ äèêî áîëüøîãî êàëèáðà ñòðóíû?   ïîñòàâü ïîìåíüøå 9-êó, 10-êó, òÿíóòü áåíäû ýòîæ îñíîâà îñíîâ. è ïîëòîðà òÿíóò è íà 2 >êòî-òî òàì íà îêòàâó ïîäòÿãèâàë(åò), íàïîìíèòå ëþáîé, ó êîãî åñòü âàììè   | |
| Guitar players are always doing shit with feedback. They love it, everyone else hates it. (c) Ray Manzarek The Les Paul is a beautiful guitar but it’s heavy as shit! (c) Joan Jett | ||
| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 12:55 | |
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|    | ðåáÿòà, ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ðàçíèöà ìåæäó öåëüíîêîðïóñíûìè è ïîëûìè âíóòðè ãèòàðàìè åñòü íî ïðèíöèïèàëüíî ýòî âñå æå ðîäñòâåííûå èíñòðóìåíòû ïåðâûå ýëåêòðîãèòàðû ïîÿâèëèñü åù¸ äî 2-é ìèðîâîé, â äæàç-áýíäàõ âðåìåí ñâèíãà ãèòàðèñòû óæå âî âñþ øïèëèëè íà ñâîèõ áàíêàõ â ñâîè ïåðâûå êîìáû òî÷íûõ äàò íå çíàþ, íî íà ÷åì-òî æå çàïèñûâàëñÿ ×àðëè Êðèñòèàí, íàïðèìåð, à ýòî áûëî åù¸ â ïåðâîé ïîëîâèíå 20-ãî âåêà | |
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| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 13:28 | |
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| Ìîñêâà     | >íî ïðèíöèïèàëüíî ýòî âñå æå ðîäñòâåííûå èíñòðóìåíòû íó ïî ñóòè ýòî ýâîëþöèÿ òîãî, ÷åãî èçíà÷àëüíî õîòåëè îò ãèòàðû â íà÷àëå 20 âåêà, ò.å. ñäåëàòü å¸ ãðîì÷å, ïîñòàâèëè ìàãíèòíûå äàò÷èêè, âðîäå ïîëó÷èëîñü, íî õîòåëîñü åùå ãðîì÷å è ÷òîá áåç îáðàòíîé ñâÿçè - ïîÿâèëàñü öåëüíîêîðïóñíàÿ ãèòàðà. Ò.å. ïîñòåïåííî ïðèõîäèëî îñîçíàíèå, ÷òî òåïåðü äëÿ áîëüøîãî çâóêà íåíóæíà ãèòàðà ñ áîëüøèì íåóäîáíûì êîðïóñîì | |
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| Àâòîð | Òåìà: Re: Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ ýëåêòðîãèòàðû, âîçìîæíî Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2013 16:06 | |
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|   | â 1936 ãèáñ ñòàâèë óæå ýëåêòðîìàãíèòíûé äàò÷èê íà àðêòîïû , à ñàìîäåëêè, âîçìîæíî è ðàíüøå ... | |
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