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ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð  
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>8-12-25-33-36-38-38 8'-14'-16'-20' 22' êàäóøêà 
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" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
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>8-12-25-33-36-38-38 - ñïðîñèòü Âàñþ  ïîçâîíè ìíå ïîçâîíè..... |
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Moon Strat+Bacchus BLC-57+BTE-54V+Greco SE-600'79+ELEVEN RACK+CRATE V3112T
òåïåðü è Ibanez Óìíûé ó÷èòñÿ íà ÷óæèõ îøèáêàõ,à äóðàê íà ñâîèõ.(Áóääà) |
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ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð
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>>8-12-25-33-36-38-38 - ñïðîñèòü Âàñþ è êóäà ìîæíî ïîïàñòü? ãäå åãî ýòîãî Âàñþ ïî ìèðó íîñèò? 
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" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
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Âðåìÿ: 07.02.2014 10:48 |
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Ìîñêâà Ibanez MMM1 
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10-15 
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Ibanez MMM1 => AMT WH-1 => BOSS PH-2 => input AMT SS-11b send => Mooer PitchBox => Mooer Trelicopter => Vox DelayLab => return AMT SS-11b output => AMT RY-1 => Brightone MB-1 => Tuner
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Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè 
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ñàìàÿ ñòàðøàÿ 69 ãîäà, ñàìóþ ìëàäøóþ äîïèëèë â îêòÿáðå | |
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"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine 
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>69 î÷åíü êðóòî! çàâèäóþ... |
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Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè
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>>69 >î÷åíü êðóòî! çàâèäóþ... äà òàì íè÷åãî ñâåðõúåñòåâñòâåííîãî - ñòàðàÿ ÿïîíêà, Greco EG-135 áàíêà 
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"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © |
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ÑÏá
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>ñàìàÿ ñòàðøàÿ 69 ãîäà, ñàìóþ ìëàäøóþ äîïèëèë â îêòÿáðå Íà ñåêóíäó ïðåäñòàâèë, ÷òî ýòî òåìà "Âîçðàñò äåòåé ôîðóì÷àí" 
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"Õóäîæíèêè, ìÿãêî ãîâîðÿ, íå îòëè÷àþòñÿ óìîì. Íî ìóçûêàíòû ìíîãî ïðåâîñõîäÿò èõ â ýòîì îòíîøåíèè. Èì äîñòóïíû âåðøèíû èäèîòèçìà." (c) Ñàëüâàäîð Äàëè
"Îäèí Æþâ çäåñü àäåêâàòíûé - îñòàëüíûå - ìàñòóðáàòîðû çåðêàëüíûå!!!!" (c) olegra |
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Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè
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>Íà ñåêóíäó ïðåäñòàâèë, ÷òî ýòî òåìà "Âîçðàñò äåòåé ôîðóì÷àí" äà, ó ìåíÿ òîæå ìåëüêíóëà òàêàÿ ìûñëü |
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"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © |
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HIMKI Tele,Strat'û&LP
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à ãðåêè æå ðàçâå äî 70õ íå ìàòöóìîêó íàçûâàëèñü? | |
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Moon Strat+Bacchus BLC-57+BTE-54V+Greco SE-600'79+ELEVEN RACK+CRATE V3112T
òåïåðü è Ibanez Óìíûé ó÷èòñÿ íà ÷óæèõ îøèáêàõ,à äóðàê íà ñâîèõ.(Áóääà) |
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Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè
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>à ãðåêè æå ðàçâå äî 70õ íå ìàòöóìîêó íàçûâàëèñü? äà óæ ïîäóñòàë îá ýòîì ñïîðèòü ñî âñåìè  âîò èñòîðèÿ âîò êàòàëîã 
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"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © |
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Íå î÷åíü äàëåêî íà þãî-âîñòîê Òî ñòðóíû, òî êëàâèøè 
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Íà êîòîðûõ èãðàþ - 9 è 2. À åñòü åùå òàêàÿ, êîòîðóþ êóïèë 34 ãîäà íàçàä è îíà áûëà äàëåêî íå íîâàÿ, ìàñòåðîâàÿ àêóñòåãà. |
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Ìîñêâà Fuzz Faces 
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â èòîãå ïîêà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ 107 ãèòàð íà 79 ïðîãîëîñîâàâøèõ, òî åñòü â ñðåäíåì íà ôîðóì÷àíèíà ìåíåå äâóõ ãèòàð âûõîäèò 
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Ìîñêâà SD Custom Guitar 
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>òî åñòü â ñðåäíåì íà ôîðóì÷àíèíà ìåíåå äâóõ ãèòàð âûõîäèò óæàñíàÿ ñòàòèñòèêà  ìíå êàçàëîñü äîëæíî áûòü 4 öåëûõ 3 äåñÿòûõ 
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Ýòî ñåé÷àñ âñå ïî íàðîøêè. À ðàíüøå. Êàê æèëè òàê è èãðàëè.
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Ìîñêâà Jackson SL1/Russtone 
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>â èòîãå ïîêà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ 107 ãèòàð íà 79 ïðîãîëîñîâàâøèõ, òî åñòü â ñðåäíåì íà ôîðóì÷àíèíà ìåíåå äâóõ ãèòàð âûõîäèò Íå ðåïðåçåíòàòèâíî. Òàê êàê ó ìíîãèõ äâà è áîëåå èíñòðóìåíòà ïîïàëè â îäèí äèàïàçîí, ýòî ýëåìåíòàðíî. ß îá ýòîì ñðàçó ñêàçàë. 
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Ìîñêâà SD Custom Guitar
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Andy T , õì, äà òû óìíåå ÷åì êàçàëñÿ 
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Ýòî ñåé÷àñ âñå ïî íàðîøêè. À ðàíüøå. Êàê æèëè òàê è èãðàëè.
http://vk.com/ivandeus http://www.youtube.com/c/Deussoftwebru |
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Ìîñêâà Jackson SL1/Russtone
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>Andy T , õì, äà òû óìíåå ÷åì êàçàëñÿ À ïðåäñòàâëÿåøü, ÷òî áû áûëî, åñëè á ó ìåíÿ íå äâà, à âñå 4 çóáà ìóäðîñòè âûðîñëè? Óìíåå, ÷åì äîðåìåìè áûë áû
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áèëåò íà áàëåò 
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Rock-n-Roll ýòî æìóðü
 ß òâîðþ íåìîòèâèðîâàííûå àêòû êðàñîòû  Õåíäðèêñ ñäîõ à Êèðêîðîâ æèâ. Ïåë Ïðåñëè ñòîíàë Ëåïñ.. È Êîáåéí â õîõëîìå. Òàêèå âîò òâîð÷åñêèå âå÷åðà â Ïèòåðå.  êâàðòèðå ñ Âèäîì íà Êàçàíñêèé. (ñ) Time |
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Ìîñêâà Jackson SL1/Russtone
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DJ Deus , à âîîáùå, êðåñòèñü ïî÷àùå, ÷òîá íå êàçàëîñü íåâåñòü ÷åãî 
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Ìîñêâà SD Custom Guitar
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Andy T , ÿ àòåèñò 
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Ýòî ñåé÷àñ âñå ïî íàðîøêè. À ðàíüøå. Êàê æèëè òàê è èãðàëè.
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Ìîñêâà Jackson SL1/Russtone
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>Andy T , ÿ àòåèñò Ñ÷èòàé, òû ñåé÷àñ îñêîðáèë ìîè ðåëèãèîçíûå ÷óâñòâà 
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Ìîñêâà SD Custom Guitar
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Andy T , íåò óæ ïîçâîëüòå  ýòî âû îñêîðáëÿåòå ìîè ÍÅ ðåëèãèîçíûå ÷óâñòâà 
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Ýòî ñåé÷àñ âñå ïî íàðîøêè. À ðàíüøå. Êàê æèëè òàê è èãðàëè.
http://vk.com/ivandeus http://www.youtube.com/c/Deussoftwebru |
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>Andy T , íåò óæ ïîçâîëüòå ýòî âû îñêîðáëÿåòå ìîè ÍÅ ðåëèãèîçíûå ÷óâñòâà Òàêîãî çàêîíà íåò 
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ñîçâåçäèå Âóàéåðöû ñåâåðíîãî ïîëóøàðèÿ öûöêè 
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>ñòàðîñòü ýòî êîãäà ãèòàðà 2002 ãîäà òåáå êàæåòñÿ ñâåæàêîì è íîâîäåëîì
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Ïåäîðàñîâ áîÿòüñÿ - â Ìàðèèíêó íå õîäèòü!(ñ)Íèêêè Áëîíä
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æåëàííîñòü ãèòàðû íå çàâèñèò îò å¸ âîçðàñòà ëþáèìàÿ äî ñèõ ïîð Êðàôòåð ÖÒ120 2007 ãîäà êàæäûé äåíü ïðîñèò íà íåé ïîèãðàòü íàäîåâøèå äîìî÷àäöàì áàÿíû
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ÅâðîïîÚ.. ãèòàðû, êëàâèøè è ïðî÷àÿ ìóçûêàëüíàÿ ïóçäðà 
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine
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Òîâàðèù Ìåäâåä , íåñêîëüêî ëåò íàçàä ìû ïðîâîäèëè ïîäñ÷åòû ïî ýòîìó âîïðîñó: ñêîëüêî íà ôîðóìå ãèòàð è êàêèå.. âîò ÷òî ÿ òîãäà ðåçþìèðîâàë: 100 ÷åëîâåê 210 ãèòàð èç íèõ: 32 ËÏ 30 òåëå 36 ñòðàòîâ 45 ñóïåðñòðàòîâ Èòàê, ó÷èòûâàÿ, ÷òî êîëè÷åñòâî ãèòàð ïðèìåðíî â 2 ðàçà ïðåâûøàåò êîëè÷åñòâî ïðîãîëîñîâàâøèõ (îêðóãëåííî 100 ïðîòèâ 210), ìîæíî ñäåëàòü âûâîä, ÷òî ñðåäíèé ôîðóì÷àíèí âëàäååò ïðèìåðíî 2-ìÿ ãèòàðàìè. Èç âñåõ èìåþùèõñÿ ãèòàð íà ôîðóìå ïðèìåðíî îäíà ïÿòàÿ – ýòî ñóïåðñòðàòû. Ïðè ýòîì òàêàÿ ãèòàðà åñòü ïî÷òè ó êàæäîãî âòîðîãî ôîðóì÷àíèíà (45 %) Ó êàæäîãî òðåòüåãî – åñòü ëï è/èëè ñòðàò è/èëè òåëå. Âñå ëï, ñòðàòû, òåëåêè è ñóïåðñòðàòû äàþò ïðèìåðíî 70 ïðîöåíòîâ âñåõ ãèòàð ôîðóìà. Îñòàëüíûå 30 ïðîöåíòîâ – ïðî÷èå ãèòàðû, îíè ÿâíî â ìåíüøèíñòâå)) |
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Ìîñêâà Offline 
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Gustaw , îñòàëîñü ïîíÿòü, êîìó ïðîäàòü ýòîò àíàëèç 
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Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
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>Gustaw , îñòàëîñü ïîíÿòü, êîìó ïðîäàòü ýòîò àíàëèç Àíàëèçû íå ïðîäàþò, à ñäàþò 
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LEO , ó êîãî àíàëèçû öåííûå, à íå êàë êàêîé íèáóäü, ïðîäàþò
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satix , ñàì ïðîäàâàé ñâîè àíàëèçû... | |
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Âðåìÿ: 07.02.2014 19:58 |
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satix , êñòàòè, åñëè ñíîâà ïðîâåñòè òî÷íî òàêîé îïîðîñ - ïîëó÷èì äàííûå â äèíàìèêå. è óâèäèì - ÷òî íàøå ÷èñëî ñîêðàòèëîñü, ñî âñåìè âûòåêàþùèìè) | |
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Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: Âîçðàñò ãèòàð ôîðóì÷àí
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Ìîñêâà Offline
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>ñî âñåìè âûòåêàþùèìè ôó |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîçðàñò ãèòàð ôîðóì÷àí
Âðåìÿ: 07.02.2014 20:00 |
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satix , ýòî òåáå íà àíàëèç. | |
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Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: Âîçðàñò ãèòàð ôîðóì÷àí
Âðåìÿ: 07.02.2014 20:05 |
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>satix , ýòî òåáå íà àíàëèç. È äàæå íå àíàëèçû
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Gibson EB bass/Gibson LP Std
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Âðåìÿ: 07.02.2014 20:08 |
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ñîçâåçäèå Âóàéåðöû ñåâåðíîãî ïîëóøàðèÿ öûöêè
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Gustaw , ïðîäàé ýòîò àíàëèç êàêîìó-íèáóäü ìàãàçèíñêîìó ãèãàíòó ïî ïðîäàæå ãèòàð äëÿ ðåêëàìíûõ öåëåé... | |
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Ïåäîðàñîâ áîÿòüñÿ - â Ìàðèèíêó íå õîäèòü!(ñ)Íèêêè Áëîíä
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Ìîñêâà Offline
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÷óð ïîòîì íå çàâèäîâàòü! | |
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Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
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Òåìà: Re: Âîçðàñò ãèòàð ôîðóì÷àí
Âðåìÿ: 07.02.2014 20:38 |
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Ìîñêâà Fuzz Faces
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>>â èòîãå ïîêà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ 107 ãèòàð íà 79 ïðîãîëîñîâàâøèõ, òî åñòü â ñðåäíåì íà ôîðóì÷àíèíà ìåíåå äâóõ ãèòàð âûõîäèò >Íå ðåïðåçåíòàòèâíî. Òàê êàê ó ìíîãèõ äâà è áîëåå èíñòðóìåíòà ïîïàëè â îäèí äèàïàçîí, ýòî ýëåìåíòàðíî. ß îá ýòîì ñðàçó ñêàçàë. ÿ çíàþ, ÷òî íåñêîëüêî ãèòàð ïîïàäàëè â îäèí äèàïàçîí. Åñëè ðàçäåëèòü, ïîëó÷àåòñÿ 1,35, ñ ó÷åòîì "íåó÷òåííûõ" ãèòàð îêðóãëèë äî 2, õîòÿ è òîãî ìåíüøå íàâåðíÿêà. Gustaw , îáìåëü÷àëè ïîõîäó ìû
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Òåìà: Re: Âîçðàñò ãèòàð ôîðóì÷àí
Âðåìÿ: 07.02.2014 20:48 |
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Ìîñêâà
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Òîâàðèù Ìåäâåä , ìîæåò ïðîñòî íàøëè?
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Gibson EB bass/Gibson LP Std
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