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Áàðíàóë Fender Am Deluxe Strat  
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òàêàÿ âîò ïðîáëåìà ñòàëà ñëó÷àòüñÿ â ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ  ñòðóíû 10-52, íåïîñðåäñòâåííî 4 ñòðóíà .30-.32 êàëèáðà, ðâåòñÿ âíå çàâèñèìîñòè îò ìàðêè - ïðîáîâàë è ýëèêñèðû, è äèí ìàðêëè, è äàäàðèî, è åùå ÷òî-òî - âñå ðàâíî ðâåòñÿ íåäåëè ÷åðåç 2, íó ìàêñèìóì 3  ðâåòñÿ ó áðèäæà, îò óäàðà ìåäèàòîðîì, íà ñàìîì ñåäëå íèêàêèõ çàçóáðèí íåòó ÷òî ýòî âîîáùå ìîæåò áûòü? íîðìàëüíîå ÿâëåíèå, íàäî ó÷èòüñÿ èãðàòü èëè æå åñòü êàêàÿ-òî ðåàëüíàÿ ïðîáëåìà? |
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Guitar players are always doing shit with feedback. They love it, everyone else hates it. (c) Ray Manzarek
The Les Paul is a beautiful guitar but it’s heavy as shit! (c) Joan Jett |
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Áðÿíñê Âîñåìü ïèðîãîâ è îäíà ñâå÷êà 
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Don't worry, shit happens...
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
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>çâóêîèçâëå÷åíèå??? äîñòàòî÷íî æåñòêîå, áûâàëî, è øåñòûå ñòðóíû çàïðîñòî ðâàëèñü  íî òî òîæå ñëó÷àëîñü äîñòàòî÷íî ðåäêî, îñîáåííî íà ìîèõ äåøåâûõ ãèòàðàõ, à òóò ïðÿì èìåííî ÷åòâåðòàÿ è ñòàáèëüíî
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Guitar players are always doing shit with feedback. They love it, everyone else hates it. (c) Ray Manzarek
The Les Paul is a beautiful guitar but it’s heavy as shit! (c) Joan Jett |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
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èãðàé ïàëüöàìè 
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
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Ìîñêâà Gretsch 6120 
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>äîñòàòî÷íî æåñòêîå, áûâàëî, è øåñòûå ñòðóíû çàïðîñòî ðâàëèñü åïòûòü, ÷åãî æ òû õî÷åøü îò ÷åòâåðòîé òîãäà?  Ïàëüöàìè èãðàé, êàê äÿäÿ Íîïôëåð
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
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Ïèòåð ãèòàðà 
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>>çâóêîèçâëå÷åíèå??? >äîñòàòî÷íî æåñòêîå, áûâàëî, è øåñòûå ñòðóíû çàïðîñòî ðâàëèñü íî òî òîæå ñëó÷àëîñü äîñòàòî÷íî ðåäêî, îñîáåííî íà ìîèõ äåøåâûõ ãèòàðàõ, à òóò ïðÿì èìåííî ÷åòâåðòàÿ è ñòàáèëüíî Áûâàåò òàêîå Ïåðåãèá áîëüøîé . ÑÌàæü ãðàôèòîì ñåäëà. ýòî òîæ ÈÌÕÎ. |
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ãðàôèíÿ. à ïî÷åìó àðáóç íå êóøàåòå? äà íó èâî. òîëüêî óõè ïà÷êàåò.
Ãèòàðû èáàíåç. êàê êîñòþìû Àäèäàñ. Âûøå äàëüøå ñèëüíåå. íî à ìóçûêà ïîòîì. |
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>åïòûòü, ÷åãî æ òû õî÷åøü îò ÷åòâåðòîé òîãäà? òàê âîò èíòåðåñíî, ïî÷åìó âñå îñòàëüíûå äåðæàòñÿ, à âîò èìåííî ÷åòâåðòàÿ ðâåòñÿ? |
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Guitar players are always doing shit with feedback. They love it, everyone else hates it. (c) Ray Manzarek
The Les Paul is a beautiful guitar but it’s heavy as shit! (c) Joan Jett |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine 
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Spotlight Kid , ó ìîåãî äðóãà áûëà òàêàÿ èñòîðèÿ ñ 5 ñòðóíîé. Íà àêóñòèêå è íà òåëåêå. Ìèñòè÷åñêèå ïðè÷èíû.. Óòâåðæäàþò, ÷òî íåïðàâèëüíî èãðàë ìåäèàòîðîì. Áåç äîêàçàòåëüñòâ. Íî â êàêîé-òî ìîìåíò ïðîñòî ïåðåñòàëî, õîòÿ òåõíèêà èãðû íå ìåíÿëàñü. Îòíîøó íà ñ÷åò ìåëêèõ áåñîâ)) | |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
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Ðèãà Ãîëîñ ëèðÒåíîð / ãèòàðà / - Ken Lawrence Explorer Replica 
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íåæíåå ìîæåò íàäî àòàêîâàòü ... ðâàööà íå áóäåò .... 
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Ken Lawrence Explorer Replica / Esp ltd
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Spotlight Kid , Ýòî çíà÷èò ÷òî òû ïðàâèëüíî âûñåêàåøü, êàê SRV (ñìîòðåë â÷åðà åãî 83 êîíöåðò - óñ¸ ïóò¸ì. è ýòî íà 11-õ ñòðóíàõ) :zadornov: |
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«Ïęңçά» Ðà¢èñò 
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â êàêîì ìåñòå ðâ¸òñÿ-òî?
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ýëåêòðîãèòàðà 
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>â êàêîì ìåñòå ðâ¸òñÿ-òî? â ðàéîíå ÷åòâåðòîé ñòðóíû 
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«Ïęңçά» Ðà¢èñò
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>>â êàêîì ìåñòå ðâ¸òñÿ-òî? >â ðàéîíå ÷åòâåðòîé ñòðóíû âîò ýòî øóòêà 
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
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Ðèãà Ãîëîñ ëèðÒåíîð / ãèòàðà / - Ken Lawrence Explorer Replica
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>>>â êàêîì ìåñòå ðâ¸òñÿ-òî? >>â ðàéîíå ÷åòâåðòîé ñòðóíû >âîò ýòî øóòêà
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Áàðíàóë Fender Am Deluxe Strat
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>â êàêîì ìåñòå ðâ¸òñÿ-òî? >ðâåòñÿ ó áðèäæà, îò óäàðà ìåäèàòîðîì, íà ñàìîì ñåäëå íèêàêèõ çàçóáðèí íåòó |
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Guitar players are always doing shit with feedback. They love it, everyone else hates it. (c) Ray Manzarek
The Les Paul is a beautiful guitar but it’s heavy as shit! (c) Joan Jett |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
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Êåð ñ íìèì, ðâè, Àíäðåé!!! 
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Áðÿíñê Âîñåìü ïèðîãîâ è îäíà ñâå÷êà
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ó ìåíÿ ïðèÿòåëü 6-å èç 12-ãî êîìïëåêòà ðâàë ïî äâå çà êîíöåðò, à ñàì 60 êã âåñó îò ñèëû... ïîêà ðóêó ïàðíþ íå ïîñòàâèë ïðåïîä íà ìåñòî - îäíè ðàñõîäû (íà ñòðóíû) ó áåäíÿãè áûëè çàòî ñêîëüêî ïèâà íà ñïîð âûïèë... ììì... |
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Don't worry, shit happens...
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
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Áàðíàóë Fender Am Deluxe Strat
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>òâîèì ìåäèàòîðîì è äðîâà ðóáèòü ìîæíî, è õîõëîâ íà ìàéäàíå ðàçãîíÿòü àãà, êóïèë, íàçûâàåòñÿ, ìåäèàòîðû Dunlop - ñàìè íåóáèâàåìûå, íî çà ñ÷åò ñòðóí 
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Guitar players are always doing shit with feedback. They love it, everyone else hates it. (c) Ray Manzarek
The Les Paul is a beautiful guitar but it’s heavy as shit! (c) Joan Jett |
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Íó ýòî íîðìàëüíî, ïîêà ó ìåíÿ áûë ñòðàò ÿ òîæå íà ñòàðûõ ñòðóíàõ íå èãðàë, ïðàâäà óæå ïîäçàáûë êàêàÿ èìåííî ñòðóíà ïîñòîÿííî ðâàëàñü. | |
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ãèòàðà, äèâàí
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Ïîìåíÿé ìåñòàìè ñåäëà 4 è 6 -þ ñòðóí, ìîæåò âñåæå íåâèäèìûé óãîë åñòü | |
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Ñïá Êîðåéñêåé ËýÒýÄý ÌÍ-1000 
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>àãà, êóïèë, íàçûâàåòñÿ, ìåäèàòîðû Dunlop - ñàìè íåóáèâàåìûå, íî çà ñ÷åò ñòðóí Ôèãíÿ, óæå 10 øòóê ñòî÷èë - ñòðóíàì õîòü áû õíû. Áüþ áîëüíî, èáî ãðèíäêîðå.
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Êîãäà ïûòàåøüñÿ ñìîòðåòü íà âåùè òðåçâî, íåâîëüíî âîçíèêàåò æåëàíèå âûïèòü. (ñ) Âåëèêèé ÂÖ
Åñòü òàêàÿ ïðîôåññèÿ - ñåáÿ îò Ðîäèíû çàùèùàòü.. (c) Zoebeast. Russian grind z-squad. |
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Ìîñêâà Gretsch 6120
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>>åïòûòü, ÷åãî æ òû õî÷åøü îò ÷åòâåðòîé òîãäà? >òàê âîò èíòåðåñíî, ïî÷åìó âñå îñòàëüíûå äåðæàòñÿ, à âîò èìåííî ÷åòâåðòàÿ ðâåòñÿ? Âûøå - òîëñòûå, à íèæå óæå îñëàáëåííûé óäàð äîõîäèò Íåò, åñëè ñåðüåçüíî, ñêîðåå ïðàâäà äåôåêò ñåäëà. Ïðîâåðü íà äðóãèõ ãèòàðàõ. âîçüìè äðóãîå áðåâíî ïîèãðàòü
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Äíåïð
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Íà ñòðàòå òàì â áðèäæå ïåðåãèá áîëüøîé, íî ïðè íîðì çâóêîèçâëå÷åíèè òàêèõ ïðîáëåì íåò. Äóìàþ, ÷òî íàäî ïðèó÷èòüñÿ ìåíüøå õåðà÷èòü ïî ñòðóíàì - ÷òîáû ñ ìèíèìàëüíîé ýêîíîìè÷íîé àìïëèòóäîé, ìèíèìàëüíûì çàöåïîì ìåäèàòîðîì. ×òîáû çâóê áû îò ñêîðîñòè êàñàòåëüíîãî óäàðà, à íå ñèëû/ãëóáèíû çàöåïà ñòðóíû. Ó ìíó ïîäîáíîå áûëî, êîãäà ïîñëå 10 ëåò èãðû ïîøåë ê õîðîøåìó ïðåïîäó, è îí ìíå ïåðåñòàâëÿë ðóêè - òàê âî âðåìÿ ïåðåõîäíîãî ïåðèîäà (ïàðà ìåñÿöåâ) ðâàëèñü 5 è 6 ñòðóíû (!!!). Ïî÷åìó èìåííî ýòè - ÿ òîãäà â ãðóïïå èãðàë ïðåèìóùåñòâåííî ðèôôîâóþ ìóçíþ, íà òîëñòûõ ñòðóíàõ, à âî âðåìÿ ðåïåòèöèè, êîãäà âñå îðåò è ðè÷èò, îñîáîãî êîíòðîëÿ íåò, âîò è äåðãàë ñòðóíû øî äóðíîé.  îáùåì, òàêîâî ìî¸ èìõî. |
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Áðÿíñê Âîñåìü ïèðîãîâ è îäíà ñâå÷êà
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>ïåðåõîäè íà áàðàáàíû áóäåò ïëàñòèê íà "4-ì" áàðàáàíå ðâàòüñÿ ïîñòîÿííî )))) |
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ìîñêâà áåðåçîâàÿ êîðà 
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>ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå ýòî ïîð÷à - ñíåñè â öåðêîâü - îêðîïè ñâÿòîé âîäèöîþ! |
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Áàðíàóë Fender Am Deluxe Strat
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êñòàòè, à ÷àñòîå èñïîëüçîâàíèå òðåìîëî íå ìîæåò âëèÿòü? 
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Guitar players are always doing shit with feedback. They love it, everyone else hates it. (c) Ray Manzarek
The Les Paul is a beautiful guitar but it’s heavy as shit! (c) Joan Jett |
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>êñòàòè, à ÷àñòîå èñïîëüçîâàíèå òðåìîëî íå ìîæåò âëèÿòü? êòî æ åãî çíàåò, ïîïðîáóé ñìåíèòü ñòðóíû è ìåäèàòîð, è ïðàêòè÷åñêèì ïóòåì óñòàíîâèòü ïðè÷èíó, ãàäàòü òóò íå÷åãî
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
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Ðèãà Ãîëîñ ëèðÒåíîð / ãèòàðà / - Ken Lawrence Explorer Replica
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>êñòàòè, à ÷àñòîå èñïîëüçîâàíèå òðåìîëî íå ìîæåò âëèÿòü? ìîæåò
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ïî óòðàì êàê èñòèííûé áðèòàí÷èê 
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ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå âûáðîñèòü ñòðàò...ïëîõîé ñòðàò 
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
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÷òîáû èñêëþ÷èòü ñåäëî, ïåðåñòàâü åãî ìåñòàìè ñ êàêèì-íèáóäü èç îñòàëüíûõ òåìà
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
Âðåìÿ: 04.05.2014 22:47 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèòàðà 
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>Ìèñòè÷åñêèå ïðè÷èíû.. Óòâåðæäàþò, ÷òî íåïðàâèëüíî èãðàë ìåäèàòîðîì. Áåç äîêàçàòåëüñòâ. Íî â êàêîé-òî ìîìåíò ïðîñòî ïåðåñòàëî, õîòÿ òåõíèêà èãðû íå ìåíÿëàñü. Îòíîøó íà ñ÷åò ìåëêèõ áåñîâ)) Íåò òàì íèêàêîé ìèñòèêè, íèêàêèõ áåñîâ è íèêàêèõ îñáåííûõ ïåðåãèáîâ ñòðóíû. Òîæå ÷àñòî ðâàëèñü ñòðóíû ó áðèäæà, íî ïîñëå ïîêóïêè ñ¸äåë Graph Tech çà äâà ãîäà íå ïîðâàë íè îäíîé.  îáùåì, âñ¸ äåëî â ñ¸äëàõ. Àâòîð, êàê ÿ ïîíèìàþ, àêòèâíî ïîëüçóåòñÿ òðåìîëî, âîò è ïåðåòèðàåò ñåäëî ñòðóíó. |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
Âðåìÿ: 07.05.2014 02:17 |
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Ìîñêâà
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äóìàþ äåëî â àòàêå îáû÷íî íà 4îé ñòðóíå óäîáíî íàõîäèòñÿ òîíèêà - äóìàþ, ÷òî òû áüåøü ìàêñèìàëüíî ñèëüíî èìåííî åå. |
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Amigo - ýòî Âû? Êîíå÷íî, ß, Äóðà !
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
Âðåìÿ: 07.05.2014 04:22 |
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Ìîñêâà
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4 ñòðóíà, åñëè ìíå ïàìÿòü íå èçìåíÿåò - ñàìàÿ òîíêàÿ èç âñåõ, óñìûñëå îñíîâà, íà êîòîðóþ îáìîòêó ìîòàþò òîíüøå 1-îé ñòðóíû, ñîáñíî îïëåòêà ñòèðàåòñÿ äîâîëüíî áûñòðî îò òðåìîëû, à îñòàâøèéñÿ "âîëîñîê" îñíîâû ïåðåòåðåòü äåëî åùå ìåíüøåãî âðåìåíè | |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîñòîÿííî ðâåòñÿ 4 ñòðóíà íà ñòðàòå
Âðåìÿ: 07.05.2014 04:35 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âàø ïðîôàéë îòðåäàêòèðîâàí 
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Ñòàðîå ïðàâèëî. Íàó÷èëñÿ èãðàòü - ïåðåñòàëè ðâàòüñÿ ñòðóíû. Íî âñå ðàâíî ìåíÿòü íóæíî ÷àñòî . | |
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