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Âðåìÿ: 12.01.2016 23:39 
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ãèòàðà

 Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ïðîèçâîäñòâà ìîäåëè Fender american stratocaster standart,deluxe ñàìûå óäà÷íûå,êðîìå íàòóðàëüíî-âèíòàæíûõ 50,60,70õ ãîäîâ?
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Âðåìÿ: 12.01.2016 23:44 
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Ñåâàñòîïîëü

 Çà ñëîâî standart ïîëîæåí îñòðàêèçì :ulyb:
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Âðåìÿ: 12.01.2016 23:58 
Gustaw
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

 Bless , õîðîøèé âîïðîñ. Âñå õîðîøèå, ìíå ïî÷åìó-òî 80-å ãîäû íå íðàâèëèñü, íî ÿ èõ ìàëî â ðóêàõ äåðæàë. À òàê âñå áûëè êëåâûå:90-å, 00-å.
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 00:12 
Plexi
The
Fuzz

 Õî÷åøü ïîäãîòîâèòü ãèòàðó ê ïðîäàæå ?
The RAT.The last fuzz you will ever need!
No amount of talk on a forum will give you as much information as 10 seconds plugged in.
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 00:37 
OdinMan

Fender

 90-ûå íåïëîõèå :idea2: è äîâîëüíî äåøåâûå :yes: äåðåâî õîðîøî ïðîñîõëî è ðåçîíèðóåò, ãèòàðà õîðîøî ïðîðåçàåò ìèêñ :-)
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 01:16 
Gustaw
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

 OdinMan ,
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 01:30 
OdinMan

Fender

 Gustaw , :love:
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 06:40 
Âaëåðà
Ìîñêâà


 Òåëà÷êè :super:
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 09:27 
LedRed



 >Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 01:16
âàõ êàêàÿ áëîíäà

Bless , ÷¸ õîòåë-òî? Çâóê â ïàëüöàõ
"You damn right I've got a blues from my head down to my shoes"
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 09:36 
k.a.s.
LED
hunter behind heads

 Ïî ìíå òàê âñå àìåðèêàí ñòàíäàðòû áîëåå-ìåíåå íà óðîâíå, òî åñòü õîðîøèå ãèòàðû.
Òàê ÷ëó÷èëîñü, ÷òî ìíå äîâîäèëîñü èãðàòü ïðåèìóùåñòâåííî íà "ñòàðûõ" ãèòàðàõ 90-õ ãîäîâ, áåç ìîäíûõ ôè÷ âðîäå S1 è ò.ä.
Áîëüøå âñåãî çàïîìíèëñÿ íàòóðàëüíûé ÿñåíåâûé ñòðàò ñ öåëüíîêëåíîâûì ãðèôîì òî ëè íà÷àëà, òî ëè ñåðåäèíû 90-õ, êîãäà ñåðèÿ åùå íàçûâàëàñü ïðîñòî American, äàæå ïîäóìûâàë êóïèòü åãî, íî äåíåã íå áûëî :hmm:
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 09:44 
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Ñåâàñòîïîëü

 Âîîáùå, åñëè ñåðü¸çíî, òî..

Ñêàæåì òàê: ñàìà èäåÿ, ÷òî ãèòàðû "òåõ" ëåò çâó÷àò ëó÷øå, ÷åì íûíåøíèå - íîñèò èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî òåîëîãè÷åñêèé õàðàêòåð. Ýòî íå áîëåå, ÷åì âîïðîñ âåðû.

Òû èëè âåðèøü, ÷òî Ôåíäåð êàêîãî-òî ãîäà áûë õîðîø, à òåïåðü "óæå íå òîðò" èëè â ýòî íå âåðèøü. Ñî çâóêîì è êà÷åñòâîì ãèòàð íà ïðàêòèêå ýòî ñâÿçàííî îïîñðåäîâàííî :4:
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 09:55 
Gootar
ïëÿìÿø Êèñòè Êîí÷åâà


 Áåðè ßìàõó.
Ðåáå, ó ìåíÿ ïðîáëåìà. Ó ìåíÿ äâà ãóñÿ, áåëûé è ñåðûé,
îäíîãî íàäî çàêîëîòü... Êàêîãî?
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 10:04 
k.a.s.
LED
hunter behind heads

 >Áåðè ßìàõó
ïðè÷åì, ìîòîöèêë :idea2:
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 10:07 
Gootar
ïëÿìÿø Êèñòè Êîí÷åâà


 >ïðè÷åì, ìîòîöèêë
Ñîëî íà êëàêñîíå. Ãëóøàêîì ñëýïàåøü, ÷î 👍
Ðåáå, ó ìåíÿ ïðîáëåìà. Ó ìåíÿ äâà ãóñÿ, áåëûé è ñåðûé,
îäíîãî íàäî çàêîëîòü... Êàêîãî?
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 10:18 
Andy T
Ìîñêâà
Jackson SL1/Russtone

 Ôëóäåðû ÷òî ëè?)) Äðÿìñ :1_4:
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 10:19 
LedRed



 >Áåðè ßìàõó.
Gootar , :agree: à ëó÷øå Òîêàé SS
"You damn right I've got a blues from my head down to my shoes"
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 10:34 
Gootar
ïëÿìÿø Êèñòè Êîí÷åâà


 >Gootar , à ëó÷øå Òîêàé SS
:1_4: Ñïîðòèâíûé? Ñêîëüêî ëîøàäîê äîåò?
Ðåáå, ó ìåíÿ ïðîáëåìà. Ó ìåíÿ äâà ãóñÿ, áåëûé è ñåðûé,
îäíîãî íàäî çàêîëîòü... Êàêîãî?
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 10:39 
LedRed



 >>Gootar , à ëó÷øå Òîêàé SS
> Ñïîðòèâíûé? Ñêîëüêî ëîøàäîê äîåò?
àãà, GT :14: ìîæíî îò 40 íà÷èíàòü, 100-êè âîîáùå îòëè÷íûå
"You damn right I've got a blues from my head down to my shoes"
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 10:40 
Gustaw
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

 Ledred , Gootar , øëåìû íàäåíüòå ïåðåä òåì êàê óåäåòå èç òåìû íà ìîöûêàõ ñâîèõ.
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 10:45 
LedRed



 Gustaw , ó ìåíÿ ôîëüãà çàêîí÷èëàñü :degenerat:
"You damn right I've got a blues from my head down to my shoes"
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 10:47 
LedRed



 È êñòàòè, ìû ñ Gootar , êàê ðàç ïðî ãèòàðû ãîâîðèì, ýòî âñ¸ k.a.s. , :smile1:
"You damn right I've got a blues from my head down to my shoes"
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 11:09 
LEO
Ìîñêâà


 >>Áåðè ßìàõó
>ïðè÷åì, ìîòîöèêë
Âñå íîðìàëüíûå ïàöàíû óæå íà ìîòîöèêëàõ ÁÌÂ åçäÿò :idea2:

ñàìûå óäà÷íûå ôåíäåðà, êîòîðûå ó ìåíÿ áûëè è êîòîðûå ÿ òðîãàë, íå ñ÷èòàÿ ñòàðûõ, áûëè îò 96 äî 05 ãîäà. 80-å âñå ïîïàäàëèñü êàêàøå÷íûå
Gibson EB bass/Gibson LP Std
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 11:12 
Chao
Ìîñêâà


 Êàê íàðâåøüñÿ
Ðàçíûå áûâàþò õîò êàñòîì æîï õîòü ñêâàéð
Àëåêñ
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 11:20 
LedRed



 Chao , âí¸ñ îïðåäåë¸ííîñòè :agree:
"You damn right I've got a blues from my head down to my shoes"
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 11:34 
DJ Deus
Ìîñêâà
SD Custom Guitar

 1957 :umnik: :grrrr: :10:
Ýòî ñåé÷àñ âñå ïî íàðîøêè. À ðàíüøå. Êàê æèëè òàê è èãðàëè.
http://vk.com/ivandeus
http://www.youtube.com/c/Deussoftwebru
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 11:53 
k.a.s.
LED
hunter behind heads

 >1957
:agree:
äà, à òî, êàê ìû çíàåì, ó 58 ãîäà óæ ñëèøêîì ñåðåäèíà ïðîáèâíàÿ, àæ óøè ðåæåò :idea2:
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 11:55 
LedRed



 >àæ óøè ðåæåò
è êàðìàí íåìíîãî, îñîáåííî ñ òàêèì êóðñîì :cry2:
"You damn right I've got a blues from my head down to my shoes"
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 11:58 
OdinMan

Fender

 >>1957
:pitka:
ñêàçàíî áûëî: >êðîìå íàòóðàëüíî-âèíòàæíûõ 50,60,70õ ãîäîâ :moral:
à òî ÿ á òîæå ïîñîâåòîâàë :hm:
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 12:00 
OdinMan

Fender

 êñòàòè êàê-òî ðûë îáúÿâû, óæå íåêîòîðûå 90-å íàçûâàþò âèíòàæíûìè ãîäàìè :ves001: êàê áûñòðî ëåòèò âðåìÿ,ÿ ÷óâñòâóþ êàê ñòàðåþ :cry:
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 12:03 
LedRed



 OdinMan , òû ñòàíîâèøüñÿ âèíòàæíûì :lol:
"You damn right I've got a blues from my head down to my shoes"
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 12:05 
Andy T
Ìîñêâà
Jackson SL1/Russtone

 >êñòàòè êàê-òî ðûë îáúÿâû, óæå íåêîòîðûå 90-å íàçûâàþò âèíòàæíûìè ãîäàìè êàê áûñòðî ëåòèò âðåìÿ,ÿ ÷óâñòâóþ êàê ñòàðåþ
Àõà, ïîïàäàëèñü è òàêèå, ãäå ïàëêà, óñëîâíî ãîâîðÿ, 2005 ãîäà âûïóñêà, íàçûâàëàñü "èíñòðóìåíòîì ñ áîãàòîé 10-ëåòíåé èñòîðèåé" :agree:
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 12:07 
Äèìåö
Ìîñêâà
Fender Stratocaster

 >óæå íåêîòîðûå 90-å íàçûâàþò âèíòàæíûìè ãîäàìè


Íàòûêàëñÿ òóò íà "ìîòèâàòîð" =)))

Äåòè 90-õ áîëüøå íå äåòè:



:ves12:
Fender Stratocaster => VOX Big Bad Wah => Boss CS-2 => Boss CE-2 => Boss SD-1 => Boss HM-2 => Big Muff Pi => Boss GE-7 => Boss DD-2 => MXR Phase 90 EVH => Øèôòóÿ... Êàê-òî òàê, ïîêà=)
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 13:01 
sda_



 åñòü ìíåíèå, ÷òî Ú Äÿäÿ Ô¸äîð áûë ñëåäóþùèõ ãîäîâ:

1) - ïî 1967/1968 (ïîêà CBS ïðîäàâàë îñòàòêè Ú çàãîòîâîê äåäóøêè Ëåî;
2) - ñ 90-ûõ ïî 2005/2006 (êîãäà ïîñëå âûêóïà ó CBS íàëàäèëè êà÷-âî è íå îñîáî ýêîíîìèëè íà äðîâàõ.. ïîòîì ôñ¸ ñòàëî ïëîõî, êðèçèñ, æîïà, íàáîðíàÿ äåêà èç 4-¸õ êóñêîâ (îëüõà, ëèïà, ÿñåíü è áóé äÿäè Âàñè..) è ò.ï.);
3) - òîëüêî ýëüôèéñêèå ëîïàòû - Ú (made in ElfLand USA);
4) - òîëüêî ñ êðåïëåíèåì ãðèôà â 4 áîëòà (CBS äàæå íà øóðóïàõ ýêîíîìèë.. :sty17: ).

ñàì - ôàíàò ÿïîíñêèõ ñòðàòîâ ñ îäíî/äâóõêóñêîâûìè äýêàìè è "ñòàëüíûìè" ìàøèíêàìè, îãà :idea2:

p.s.: îòäåëüíàÿ ïåñíÿ - ýò ïîêðûòèå íèòðîé vs ïîëèóðåòàí/etc..
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Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 13:06 
Gootar
ïëÿìÿø Êèñòè Êîí÷åâà


 ß áû â æèçíè íå êóïèë ïàëêó ñòàðøå 20 ëåò. Êîìó íàäî, òîò ïîéìåò.
Ðåáå, ó ìåíÿ ïðîáëåìà. Ó ìåíÿ äâà ãóñÿ, áåëûé è ñåðûé,
îäíîãî íàäî çàêîëîòü... Êàêîãî?
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 13:56 
OdinMan

Fender

 >ß áû â æèçíè íå êóïèë ïàëêó ñòàðøå 20 ëåò
à ÿ á íîâóþ â æèçíè íå êóïèë áû :4: ëåò îâåð òàê çà 50 - ñàìîå òî :super:
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 14:03 
LedRed



 OdinMan , ëþáèøü ïî-ñòàðøå, ñ îïûòîì? :crazy:
"You damn right I've got a blues from my head down to my shoes"
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 14:04 
k.a.s.
LED
hunter behind heads

 áóäó÷è â àñàøàé, ñëóøàë â ìóç. êîìèññèîíêå ñòðàò 76-ãî ãîäà, î÷åíü ïîíðàâèëñÿ ïî çâóêó è îùóùåíèÿì, íî ïðåäûäóùèé âëàäåëåö çà÷åì-òî îáîäðàë ëàê äî äåðåâà è çàìåíèë âñþ ôóðíèòóðó íà íîâóþ :oooi:
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 14:06 
k.a.s.
LED
hunter behind heads

 >ëþáèøü ïî-ñòàðøå, ñ îïûòîì?
Fender Horny Mature Stratocaster :crazy:
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 14:11 
OdinMan

Fender

 >OdinMan , ëþáèøü ïî-ñòàðøå, ñ îïûòîì?
åñëè òîëüêî ãèòàðó :idea2:
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Êàêèõ ãîäîâ ìîäåëè ôåíäåð àì. ñòðàò ñàìûå óäà÷íûå?
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2016 14:14 
OdinMan

Fender

 >ñòðàò 76-ãî ãîäà, î÷åíü ïîíðàâèëñÿ ïî çâóêó è îùóùåíèÿì, íî ïðåäûäóùèé âëàäåëåö çà÷åì-òî îáîäðàë ëàê äî äåðåâà è çàìåíèë âñþ ôóðíèòóðó íà íîâóþ
óáèë áû :4:
ÿ èãðàë àæ íà äâóõ ñòðàòàõ 79-ãî è åùå êàêîãî-òî èç 70-ûõ ñ áîëüøèìè áîøêàìè, ãëóõèå îáå áûëè, íî ÷òî-òî ïðèêîëüíîå â íèõ áûëî, íàâåðíîå âèíòàæíîñòü) à ìîæåò ñòðóíû áûëè ñèëüíî ñòàðûå, âèíòàæíûå òîæå :ves12:
Âñå ñòðàíèöû:
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