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Òåìà: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 23:22 |
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 îáùåì, ïîïàë êî ìíå gibson ñ wraparound áðèäæåì, êàê ïî ìíå êîíñòðóêöèÿ êðàéíå ïëîõàÿ, âî-ïåðâûõ íåëüçÿ ðåãóëèðîâàòü íàòÿæåíèå ñòðóí, âî-âòîðûõ ÿ ïðèâûê êëàñòü ðóêó ìåæäó ÷àñòÿìè áðèäæà, â-òðåòüèõ èíîãäà ìåøàåò ìàññèâíàÿ ãàéêà, íà êîòîðóþ ýòîò áðèäæ êðåïèòñÿ, â ÷åòâåðòûõ îí ïðîñòî âûãëÿäèò ïî-óðîäñêè. Åñòåñòâåííî ÿ õî÷ó çàìåíèòü íà tune-o-matic, íî êàê ÿ ïîñìîòðåë äûðêè ïîä wraparound áîëüøå è øèðå (êàê ó stoptail) â ïðèíöèïå ìîæíî çàáèòü, âðîäå ïåðåäåëàòü è òàê íå ïðîáëåìà (äîêëåèòü êóñî÷êè äåðåâà è ïðîñâåðëèòü çàíîâî), íî, ñêîëüêî çà ýòó ïðîöåäóðó íûí÷å çàïðîñÿò â ìàñòåðñêèõ áîëüøîé âîïðîñ (èíòåðåñíî)? Òàêæå ðåøèë ïîêà ïîèñêàòü âàðèàíò, êîòîðûé ìîæíî ïîñòàâèòü íà óæå ãîòîâûå îòâåðñòèÿ ìîæåò, êòî ïîäñêàæåò, ó êîãî áûë ïîõîæèé îïûò? Èíòåðåñíû, êàê wraparound áåç âûøå îçâó÷åííûõ ïðîáëåì (ãóãëèë íà âñå âûãëÿäèò ñòðåìíî, ìíå âñå-òàêè øàøå÷êè, äà è ðåãóëÿöèåé íàòÿæåíèÿ íå ïîíÿòíî), òàê tune-o-matic êîòîðûå âñòàíåò íà ýòè îòâåðñòèÿ? |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 07:17 |
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Ñòàâèøü íà îïîðû âîò òàêîé wraparound:  Ó íåãî ðàññòîÿíèå ìåæäó îïîðàìè 82 ìì, òàêîå æå, êàê è ó ñòîïáàðà (à ïðîñòûå wraparound áåç ñåäåë êàê ðàç è èìåþò ðàçìåðû ñòîïáàðà). À óæå çà íèì óñòàíàâëèâàåøü ñòîïáàð è èñïîëüçóåøü wraparound ïðîñòî â êà÷åñòâå áðèäæà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 07:29 |
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Êðîìå òîãî, wraparound-û áûâàþò ðàçíûå. Ïîñìîòðè: Ìîæåò, âñå-òàêè, ïîäáåðåøü êðàñèâûé. Ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, öåíû êîíñêèå, äà è ëþáîé òàêîé áðèäæ ïîä íàòÿæåíèåì ñòðóí ïåðåêàøèâàåòñÿ â ñòîðîíó ãðèôà è íîðîâèò âûêîð÷åâàòü ñ êîðíåì îïîðû èç êîðïóñà. Ñ îòäåëüíûì ñòîïáàðîì îäíîçíà÷íî ñòàáèëüíåå. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 07:40 |
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Ãóñòàâî, íàäåþñü, ìíå óäàëîñü õîòü ÷óòü-÷óòü ðàçáàâèòü êîëè÷åñòâî àáñóðäà íà ôîðóìå ýòèìè ñêó÷íûìè ïîñòàìè. 
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 08:06 |
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Àä ìèðà Admira Juanita
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Òîæå äóìàþ, ÷òî ñðåäè ñòðàøíûõ wrap-around, âïîëíå ðåàëüíî íàéòè êðàñèâûé. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 12:29 |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 16:09 |
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Living Dad , ñïàñèáî çà ëèêáåç, ÷åòî íå ïîäóìàë, ÷òî âðàï ìîæíî, êàê òîì îñòàâèòü  Åäèíñòâåííîå îñòàåòñÿ ãàéêà, èíîãäà î íåå öåïëÿþñü, ìîæåò ìîæíî êàêîé-íèáóäü êîëïà÷îê íàéòè? Èëè ÷òî-òî òàêîå (â ïëàíå êðåïëåíèÿ):  
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
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>Òîæå äóìàþ, ÷òî ñðåäè ñòðàøíûõ wrap-around, âïîëíå ðåàëüíî íàéòè êðàñèâûé. Âîîáùå íà ãèáñîíàõ âñå ÷òî íå tune-o-matic ñìîòðèòñÿ êàê ñåäëî íà ñâÿùåííîì èíäèéñêîì æèâîòíîì. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 17:21 |
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à êàê òåáå èäåÿ ïðî schaller hannes bridge? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 18:30 |
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ToXa , ÷òî-òî ïîäîáíîå? Â ïðèíöèïå ìîæíî, òîëüêî äëÿ òàêîãî ñòðóíîäåðæàòåëÿ æåëàòåëüíî, ÷òîáû áðèäæ áûë ïîâûøå íàä êîðïóñîì, íå òî óãîë ïåðåãèáà ñòðóíû íà áðèäæå áóäåò ñòðåìèòüñÿ ê 180 ãðä., è äàâëåíèå ñòðóí íà áðèäæ áóäåò ñëèøêîì ñëàáûì, óõóäøàÿ îòäà÷ó è àòàêó. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 18:33 |
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Âòîðîé âàðèàíò, êàê ÿ ïèñàë âûøå, ïîä íàòÿæåíèåì ñòðóí áóäåò ñòðåìèòüñÿ "âñòàòü ðàêîì", óõóäøàÿ äàâëåíèå ñòðóí íà ñåäëà ñî âñåìè âûòåêàþùèìè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 18:41 |
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> îáùåì, ïîïàë êî ìíå gibson ñ wraparound áðèäæåì, êàê ïî ìíå êîíñòðóêöèÿ êðàéíå ïëîõàÿ, âî-ïåðâûõ íåëüçÿ ðåãóëèðîâàòü íàòÿæåíèå ñòðóí, âî-âòîðûõ ÿ ïðèâûê êëàñòü ðóêó ìåæäó ÷àñòÿìè áðèäæà, â-òðåòüèõ èíîãäà ìåøàåò ìàññèâíàÿ ãàéêà, íà êîòîðóþ ýòîò áðèäæ êðåïèòñÿ, â ÷åòâåðòûõ îí ïðîñòî âûãëÿäèò ïî-óðîäñêè. >Åñòåñòâåííî ÿ õî÷ó çàìåíèòü íà tune-o-matic, íî êàê ÿ ïîñìîòðåë äûðêè ïîä wraparound áîëüøå è øèðå (êàê ó stoptail) â ïðèíöèïå ìîæíî çàáèòü, âðîäå ïåðåäåëàòü è òàê íå ïðîáëåìà (äîêëåèòü êóñî÷êè äåðåâà è ïðîñâåðëèòü çàíîâî), íî, ñêîëüêî çà ýòó ïðîöåäóðó íûí÷å çàïðîñÿò â ìàñòåðñêèõ áîëüøîé âîïðîñ (èíòåðåñíî)? >Òàêæå ðåøèë ïîêà ïîèñêàòü âàðèàíò, êîòîðûé ìîæíî ïîñòàâèòü íà óæå ãîòîâûå îòâåðñòèÿ ìîæåò, êòî ïîäñêàæåò, ó êîãî áûë ïîõîæèé îïûò? Èíòåðåñíû, êàê wraparound áåç âûøå îçâó÷åííûõ ïðîáëåì (ãóãëèë íà âñå âûãëÿäèò ñòðåìíî, ìíå âñå-òàêè øàøå÷êè, äà è ðåãóëÿöèåé íàòÿæåíèÿ íå ïîíÿòíî), òàê tune-o-matic êîòîðûå âñòàíåò íà ýòè îòâåðñòèÿ? âèäíî áóäåò çàäåëêè. áððð |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
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Íà êðàéíÿê ýòî ïîäîéä¸ò
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Ibanez rg-XOTIC XW-1 WAH-EH pitch fork-korg tuner- ??????-mesa dual rectifier(???? ??? ??????)
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 20:01 |
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Living Dad , ÿ íå ñîâñåì ïðî áðèäæ à ïðî ýòó ãàéêó, õîòåëîñü ÷òîáû îíà áûëà óòîïëåíà êàê-òî, íó èëè ñãëàæåíà:
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>âèäíî áóäåò çàäåëêè. áððð Íå, ó ìåíÿ SG ñ îáû÷íûì ïèêãàðäîì, òàê ÷òî âèä òàêàÿ ïåðåäåëêà íå èñïîðòèò. >à êàê òåáå èäåÿ ïðî schaller hannes bridge? >Íà êðàéíÿê ýòî ïîäîéä¸ò >https://www.kahlerusa.com/fixed-bridge-tremolos-b r idges-6-string Ñëèøêîì äèññîíèðóþò òàêèå áðèäæè ñ ãèáñîíàìè, ðîäíîé âðàï è òî îðãàíè÷íåå ñìîòðèòñÿ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
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>>âèäíî áóäåò çàäåëêè. áððð >Íå, ó ìåíÿ SG ñ îáû÷íûì ïèêãàðäîì, òàê ÷òî âèä òàêàÿ ïåðåäåëêà íå èñïîðòèò. >>à êàê òåáå èäåÿ ïðî schaller hannes bridge? >>Íà êðàéíÿê ýòî ïîäîéä¸ò >>https://www.kahlerusa.com/fixed-bridge-tremolos- b r idges-6-string >Ñëèøêîì äèññîíèðóþò òàêèå áðèäæè ñ ãèáñîíàìè, ðîäíîé âðàï è òî îðãàíè÷íåå ñìîòðèòñÿ. Ààààààà âêóñîâùèíà! Áðîñü! Îí óäîáíåé è ôóíêöèîíàëüíåé, ÷åì òþíîìàòèê.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
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>Íà êðàéíÿê ýòî ïîäîéä¸ò >https://www.kahlerusa.com/fixed-bridge-tremolos-b r idges-6-string Çàìå÷àòåëüíûé âàðèàíò, åñëè òîëüêî òû ãîòîâ ïîéòè íà ôðåçåðîâêó êîðïóñà ïîä òðåìîëî Kahler. 
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
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>Living Dad , ÿ íå ñîâñåì ïðî áðèäæ à ïðî ýòó ãàéêó, õîòåëîñü ÷òîáû îíà áûëà óòîïëåíà êàê-òî, íó èëè ñãëàæåíà: ToXa , ìîæíî çàêàçàòü áîëòû ñî ñêðóãëåííîé ãîëîâêîé, íàïîäîáèå òåõ, ÷òî äåðæàò áðèäæ íà âòîðîì ôîòî èç òâîåãî ñîîáùåíèÿ îò 22.10.2016 16:09 . Ìîæíî ïîèñêàòü â ìàãàçèíå êðåïåæà ãîòîâûå áîëòû Ì8 ñ ïîäõîäÿùåé ãîëîâêîé. Îöèíêîâàííûå èëè èç íåðæàâåéêè, åñëè èõ îòïîëèðîâàòü, ñìîòðÿòñÿ âïîëíå ïðèëè÷íî. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
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>Çàìå÷àòåëüíûé âàðèàíò, åñëè òîëüêî òû ãîòîâ ïîéòè íà ôðåçåðîâêó êîðïóñà ïîä òðåìîëî Kahler. Òàê îíè åùå òðåìîëî? Òîãäà òî÷íî íåò. Ìíå áû âîò òàêîé ïîäîøåë ïî êðåïëåíèþ (ïëþñ ñòîïáàð), òîëüêî áû ïîêîðî÷å íàéòè, êàê ðîäíîé âðàï. 
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>ToXa , ìîæíî çàêàçàòü áîëòû ñî ñêðóãëåííîé ãîëîâêîé, íàïîäîáèå òåõ, ÷òî äåðæàò áðèäæ íà âòîðîì ôîòî èç òâîåãî ñîîáùåíèÿ îò 22.10.2016 16:09 . Ìîæíî ïîèñêàòü â ìàãàçèíå êðåïåæà ãîòîâûå áîëòû Ì8 ñ ïîäõîäÿùåé ãîëîâêîé. Îöèíêîâàííûå èëè èç íåðæàâåéêè, åñëè èõ îòïîëèðîâàòü, ñìîòðÿòñÿ âïîëíå ïðèëè÷íî. Living Dad , à ñ áîëòàìè ìûñëü, íàäî ïîèñêàòü, ñïàñèáî 
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
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>>Íà êðàéíÿê ýòî ïîäîéä¸ò >>https://www.kahlerusa.com/fixed-bridge-tremolos- b r idges-6-string >Çàìå÷àòåëüíûé âàðèàíò, åñëè òîëüêî òû ãîòîâ ïîéòè íà ôðåçåðîâêó êîðïóñà ïîä òðåìîëî Kahler. ýòî íå òðåìîëî, à áðèäæ. Òàì îí ñòàòè÷íûé. |
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>>Çàìå÷àòåëüíûé âàðèàíò, åñëè òîëüêî òû ãîòîâ ïîéòè íà ôðåçåðîâêó êîðïóñà ïîä òðåìîëî Kahler. >Òàê îíè åùå òðåìîëî? Òîãäà òî÷íî íåò. ýòî íè òðåìîëî, à ôèêñèðîâàíûé áðèäæ. Ýòî 2300 è 2200 òðåìîëî. 3300 âîò îí êàêîé 
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Ibanez rg-XOTIC XW-1 WAH-EH pitch fork-korg tuner- ??????-mesa dual rectifier(???? ??? ??????)
Modern Thrash metal band Ispepelator Thrash `Till Death |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
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Go Ahead! Drink with the Living Dead!
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Ìÿñíèê , õîðîøàÿ æåëåçÿêà. Âîò ïî÷åìó òîëüêî íåëüçÿ áûëî åå ñäåëàòü ñ êðåïëåíèåì íà îïîðû îò òþíîìàòèêà? Ïîä ÷åòûðå êðåïåæíûõ øóðóïà ëèáî ïðèäåòñÿ ñâåðëèòü êîðïóñ, ëèáî, åñëè îíè ïîïàäàþò íà ìåñòà îïîð, îòâåðñòèÿ çàòûêàòü ïðîáêàìè è îïÿòü æå ñâåðëèòü ïîä øóðóïû. Òðåìîëî-òî õîòü è òðåáóåò ôðåçåðîâêè, çàòî êðåïèòñÿ íà îïîðû ñòîïáàðà. Âîò ïî÷åìó íåëüçÿ ñäåëàòü ìîäåëü äëÿ óñòàíîâêè íà ëåñïîë áåç äîðàáîòîê! 
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Ñòàðûå ìîñòû ìîãóò åùå ïðèãîäèòüñÿ. Ëó÷øå ñæå÷ü ñòàðûå ãðàáëè.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
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>Ìÿñíèê , õîðîøàÿ æåëåçÿêà. Âîò ïî÷åìó òîëüêî íåëüçÿ áûëî åå ñäåëàòü ñ êðåïëåíèåì íà îïîðû îò òþíîìàòèêà? Ïîä ÷åòûðå êðåïåæíûõ øóðóïà ëèáî ïðèäåòñÿ ñâåðëèòü êîðïóñ, ëèáî, åñëè îíè ïîïàäàþò íà ìåñòà îïîð, îòâåðñòèÿ çàòûêàòü ïðîáêàìè è îïÿòü æå ñâåðëèòü ïîä øóðóïû. Òðåìîëî-òî õîòü è òðåáóåò ôðåçåðîâêè, çàòî êðåïèòñÿ íà îïîðû ñòîïáàðà. > >Âîò ïî÷åìó íåëüçÿ ñäåëàòü ìîäåëü äëÿ óñòàíîâêè íà ëåñïîë áåç äîðàáîòîê! Òàê åãî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü êàê ôèêñ. Çàêðóòèë è âñ¸! Áåç ôðåçåðîâêè. Ìåñòî òàì õâàòèò. |
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Ibanez rg-XOTIC XW-1 WAH-EH pitch fork-korg tuner- ??????-mesa dual rectifier(???? ??? ??????)
Modern Thrash metal band Ispepelator Thrash `Till Death |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
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ÿ ìåíÿë â øàìðàå íà sgj ïî òåì æå ñîîáðàæåíèÿì - ïîëó÷èëîñü õîðîøî.. è íåäîðîãî... íî íå ïîìíþ ñêîëüêî èáî äàâíî áûëî.. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîìåíÿòü wraparound íà tune-o-matic.
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Ôðàíöóçñêàÿ ãëóøü PRS, Gibson
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Ïðî÷èòàë, ÷òî ñóùåñòâóåò áðèäæ Ibanez Gibraltar III âðîäå êàê ïîäõîäèò íà ìåñòî îðèãèíàëüíîãî wraparound, îñòàëîñü òîëüêî åãî íàéòè.
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