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Òåìà: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2005 19:52 



Êòî-íèáóäü èãðàë ÷åðåç ýòó øòóêó? ... Êàê îíà íà ÌßÑÎ ...?
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2005 23:17 
Ìîñêâà


òàê æå êàê è ðåêòèôàèð, ò.å. êàê ðàç äëÿ åòîãî.Ïîñëóøàé Ïîñëåäíèé àëüáîì Ìåòàëëèêè,è êàêîé íèáóäü èç Limp Bizkit(çâóê ðàçíûé)
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 06:21 



Íåâåðþ...
îáëàäàòåëü Áåííåòòà ðåøèë êóïèòü ñåáå ðåêòó!!
Õîòü çíàåøü ñêîêà îíà ñòîèò??
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 09:04 



strike
ÿ óæå äàâíî äóìàþ ... "íàõ ÿ íàïèñàë ÷òî ó ìåíÿ áåííåòò?!" :)

Êîðî÷å ñåé÷àñ ó ìåíÿ áåííåò äëÿ îáó÷åíèÿ ... ÷åðåç ìåñÿö ÿ ñåáå ïåäàëüêó ïî òèïó MT-2 âîçüìó ... ïîòîì êîìá òèïà RANDALL RG75G2
Çàòåì ãèòàðó Jackson RR5, à ïîòîì ýòîò ñàìûé ðåêòèôåð!!!!!

Áîëüøîé ñïèñîê ... íî ìíå íàäî ñðàçó(ïîêà âðåìÿ åñòü) ðàçîáðàòüñÿ ñ òåì ÷òî ìíå íàäî ïðåîáðåñòè ... è íàäóìàòü ÊÀÊ ÝÒÎ ÏÐÅÎÁÐÅÑÒÈ

À íà ñ÷¸ò öåí íå áåñïîêîéñÿ, ÿ èõ çíàþ! ...  ëþáîì ïî áðåíäó ìåñà áóã ìîæíî äîãàäàòüñÿ ñêîêî ýòî ñòîèò! ;)
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 09:05 



Ðàìøòåéí íà ïîñëåäíåì àëüáîìå íå ÷åðåç òàêóþ æå øòóêó èãðàåò?!
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 09:52 



ïðèîáðåñòè ïèøåòñÿ ÷åðåç "È"...íå çàáûâàéòå ýòî...

à ïî ñàáæó - õîðîøàÿ øòóêà... óäîáíàÿ. Íî çâóê - òèïè÷íûé ðåêòî, êîìó-òî î÷åíü íðàâèòñÿ, êîìó-òî íå î÷åíü. Íî îò ýòîãî îí õóæå íå ñòàíîâèòñÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 10:20 



ÄÀ ÍÀ ÓÕÉ ÎÍ ÂÀÌ ÍÓÆÅÍ!!!!

ýòà âåùü ðàçðàáîòàíà äëÿ äîìàøíèõ ñòóäèé!!! îíà äåéñòâèòåëüíî óäîáíà äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû êëåâî çàïèñàòü ãèòàðó, îñîáåííî â ïîìåùåíèè, íå ïðåäíàçíà÷åííîì äëÿ ðàáîòû 100-âàòòíîãî óñèëèòåëÿ! íî ïîêóïàòü òàêóþ õåðîâèíó äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû äîìà ïîçàíèìàòüñÿ èëè íà êîíöåðò åå òàñêàòü â âûñøåé ñòåïåíè íåðàöèîíàëüíî!

ðàìøòåéí èãðàåò... õûõû!!! ðàìøòåéí âïîëíå ñåáå ìîæåò ïîçâîëèòü çàïèñü íàñòîÿùåãî ðåêòèôàåðà ñ êàáèíåòîì!
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 10:33 



êåøà
ÿ èìåë ââèäó íàñòîÿùèé ðåêòèôåð ñ êîáèíåòîì ... ;)

Ñrock
êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà êàê ïèøåòñÿ ... ãëàâíîå òû ïîíÿë! :)
Òû ìîæåøü êàê-íèáóäü îïèñàòü ýòîò çâóê íà ñëîâàõ ... íà ÷òî ïîõîæå è ïî÷åìó òåáå íå íðàâèòñÿ! ... :)
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 11:31 



"Òû ìîæåøü êàê-íèáóäü îïèñàòü ýòîò çâóê íà ñëîâàõ"

Ìîãó..îí çâó÷èò êàê ðåêòèôàåð :))
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 12:01 



×òîáû ïîëó÷èòü èñòèííûé çâóê ðåêòèôàåðà, ìîæíî íå ïîêóïàòü äîðîãóùèé ïðèáîð, à ñäåëàòü íåáîëüøóþ ïåðåäåëêó â òåðìîáëîêå èëè ïîñëå ëþáîãî èç êàñêàäîâ êîìáèêà/ãîëîâû.

Äåëàåòñÿ òàê.
1(ïðîñòîé)) Áåðåøü äâà äèîäà è ñîåäèíÿåøü èõ ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíî, àíîäîì ê àíîäó èëè êàòîäîì ê êàòîäó. È âñòðàèâàåøü ïîëó÷èâøèéñÿ ïðîäóêò â öåïü. Êñòàòè çàîäíî ïîëó÷èòñÿ ÷óäíûé øóìîäàâ!

2(ïîñëîæíåå)) Áåðåøü 4 äèîäà è ñîáèðàåøü èç íèõ íàñòîÿùèé rectifier, ñõåìó åãî ìîæíî óâèäåòü â ëþáîé ñõåìå áëîêà ïèòàíèÿ. Ïîáî÷íûé ýôôåêò òàêîãî ðåøåíèÿ - âàø äèíàìèê áóäåò ïðûãàòü:-) Íî ïîñòîÿííûé øóì òàêæå çàäàâèòñÿ.

Çà ÷òî ïëàòÿò øòóêè áàêñîâ, è çà÷åì òàì ëàìïû - íàóêå íåèçâåñòíî.
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 12:09 



2_hell_: ýòî êîíå÷íî õîðîøî, íî âñå ðàâíî ñëîæíî))
2Angel: êàê çâó÷èò? Íà ñàìîì äåëå ñëîæíî ñêàçàòü. Ïîñëóøàé õîòü îäèí òðýê Jane Air ñ èõ ïåðâîãî àëüáîìà-òàì êàê ðàç îí èñïîëüçóåòñÿ, èëè Êîðí ðàííèé... À íà ñëîâàõ, òî ýòî æåñòêèé ïëîòíûé çâóê. Òÿæåëåå óæå íå õî÷åòñÿ))
âîò ññûëêà êñòàòè íà Ðåêòèôàåð: http://www.guitars.ru/01/info.php?z815
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 12:15 



ñèðàâíî ìàðøàëë äæýñýì âàèìüñîò êðó÷å!
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 12:32 



Âîò ãèòàðíûé çâóê Rammstein:

Ïàóëü Ëàíäåðñ Guitar

Furman Pl-Plus E Power Conditioner and Light Module
Shure UHF MARCAD Diversity
Korg Tone Works Digital Tuner DTR-2
SansAmp PSA-1
Behringer Intelligate SPL Optimizer
2 Mesa Engineering Stereo SimulClass 2:90
Mesa/Boogie Strategy 500 Stereo
Marshall 4"x12"
Mesa 4"x12"
Music Man Edward van Halen
Music Man Ernie Ball
Music Man Axis
Dean Markley LT/HB 010-052

Ðèõàðä Êðóñïå Áåðíøòàéí Guitar

ESP 901ESP Kirk Hammet
Washburn Acoustic
Furman Pl-Plus E Power Conditioner and Lightning Module
2 Shure MARCAD Diversity
Korg Tone Works Digital Tuner DTR-2
Crybaby DCR-ISr
Drawmer Dual Gate DS-201
Mesa Engineering Professional High Gain Amplifier Switch
Mesa Engineering Stereo SimulClass 2:90
2 Mesa Engineering Dual Rectifier Solo Heads
4 Marshall 4x12"
Mesa Boogie Abacus Midi Controller
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 14:15 



êåøà

Ñòåá äåëî âåëèêîå êîíå÷íî... íî ó÷èòñÿ íàäî òåáå åùå...íå óìååøü Ñèëîé ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ òû... íèçà÷îò!
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 14:35 



çàòî ìàðøàëîì óìåéó! ãûûûûûûûûûû :)
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 16:35 



äà ïðåáóäåò ñ âàìè ñèëà èñòèííîãî ðåêòèôàåðà, ãèòàðèñòû!;))))
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 16:42 



ðåêòèôàåð ýòî Òåìíàÿ ñòîðîíà Ñèëû... ìàðøàëë - ýòî ñâåòëàÿ...

Ìû âîò ñ êåøåé - Äæåäàè, à âû ïàäîíêè - âñå ñèòõè íåäîäåëàííûå :))
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 16:42 



Âåðíåå êåøà åùå íå äæåäàé, à òàê...ïàäàâàí :))
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 16:44 



Ñrock: Íå, ìû ïðîñòî òåìíûå èíûå, ÿ âîò äèîäîâ íàêîâûðÿë, áóäó ðåêòèôàåð ñóïåðíûé äåëàòü :lol:
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 17:10 



Äà âîññëàâèòñÿ òâîé ïîäâèã â âåêàõ...
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 17:11 



íàõ!
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 17:47 



äà ÿ ïîêà ñâåòëûé, íî ñêîðî ÷óâñòâóþ óéäó ñ ñèòõàì íàõ..)))
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 19:37 



Î áîæå ... :)
Mark Kornev
âåçäå óñïåë ... ;)

Êòî-íèáóäü îáúÿñíèò êàê îí ýòî âìåñòå èñïîëüçóåò:
2 Mesa Engineering Dual Rectifier Solo Heads
4 Marshall 4x12"

Íàôèãà åìó äâå ãîëîâû ...? ... ïîÿñíèòå ïëèçççç :)
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 19:59 



Mark Kornev
À êàêîé Ðåêòèôåð îí èìåííî èñïîëüçóåò?
Åñòü âåäü Triple, Dual ... è ò.ä.? :)
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 20:02 



Mark Kornev
MESA BOOGIE Triple Rectifier Solo Head 150W
- ýòà øòóêà ñ êàáèíåòîì ïðîäà¸òñÿ èëè íåò? ... è ïî÷åìó â òðåéäå êîáèíåòîâ íåò? :)
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 20:10 



Mark Kornev
È ïîñëåäíèé âîïðîñ ... ïðàâäà ...
Åñëè ýòîò MESA BOOGIE Triple Rectifier Solo Head 150W ïðîäà¸òñÿ áåç êàáèíåòà, òî ìîæíî ëè åãî ïîäêëþ÷èòü íàïðèìåð ê êîìáèêó ñ 75 âàòàìè èëè íàïðÿìóþ ÷åðåç ìèêøåðíûé ïóëüò? ...
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 20:23 



>Angel
>Åñëè ýòîò MESA BOOGIE Triple Rectifier Solo Head 150W ïðîäà¸òñÿ áåç êàáèíåòà, òî ìîæíî ëè åãî ïîäêëþ÷èòü íàïðèìåð ê êîìáèêó ñ 75 âàòàìè èëè íàïðÿìóþ ÷åðåç ìèêøåðíûé ïóëüò? ...

Áóäåò íå ñîëèäíî ÿ äóìàþ.Òàêîå îáîðóäîâàíèå ýòîãî íå çàñëóæèâàåò. À åñëè òû êðóòî èãðàåøü ýòî íå ãëàâíîå :sol:
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 20:31 
Ìîñêâà


"Êòî-íèáóäü îáúÿñíèò êàê îí ýòî âìåñòå èñïîëüçóåò:
2 Mesa Engineering Dual Rectifier Solo Heads
4 Marshall 4x12"

Íàôèãà åìó äâå ãîëîâû ...? ... ïîÿñíèòå ïëèçççç"
×ÒÎá ðàñêà÷àòü 4 êàáèíåòà...
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 21:22 



VIRUS_OF_LIFE
Èíòåðåñòíî ... à êàê åíòî âñ¸ ïîäêëþ÷àåòñÿ ... ÷òîáû ïðè îäíîé ãèòàðå èãðàëî äâå ãîëîâû! Ñ îäíèìè è òåìè æå íàñòðîéêàìè? ...

Mark Kornev
ß ñïðîñèë ìîæíî ëè ... âî ïåðâûõ ýòî íà âðåìÿ ... âî âòîðûõ íå âñåãäà åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü õîðîøèé ÁÎËÜØÎÉ êàáèíåò ïðèâåçòè íà âûñòóïëåíèå! ...
Ìíå èíòåðåñòíî íèñåãî ñòðàøíîãî îò ýòîãî íàïðèìåð äèíàïèêó ñ 75 âàòàìè íå áóäåò åñëè ê íèìó ãîëîâû íà 150 âàò ïîäêëþ÷èòü? ...

ß òàê ïîíÿë ÷òî îíà áåç êîáèíåòà ïðîäà¸òñÿ ... ìëÿ à ãäå â òðåéäå öåíû íà êîáèíåòû ... ìàòü èõ! :)
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 21:23 



Mark Kornev
Ó Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp ÷¸òêî ïðîïèñàííî, ÷òî åñòü âûõîä íà êîìá è íà ìèêøåðíûé ïóëüò ... à êàê ó MESA BOOGIE Triple Rectifier Solo Head 150W?
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 21:27 



Åù¸ èíòåðåñóåò ñèëüíî ëè îòëè÷àåòñÿ çâóê ó:
Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
MESA BOOGIE Triple Rectifier Solo Head 150W

Íà îôèöèàëüíîì ñàéòå íàïèñàíî ÷òî ïðåàìï âñåãî ëèøü ðåêîâûé àíàëîã ... ñäåëàíûé äëÿ óäîáñòâà ... íó òèïî âðîäå íà êà÷åñòâî çâóêà íå ïîâëèÿëî ýòî óìåíüøåíèå â ðàçìåðàõ!
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 21:51 



Angel,Ðåêòèôàåð õîðîø â ïðîôåññèîíàëüíîé ðàáîòå,äà è âîîáùå îí ñòîèò êó÷ó áàáîê.Ìíå íàïðèìåð õâàòàåò áîëåå ïðîñòîé àïïàðàòóðû äëÿ íà÷àëà.À íà ñ÷¸ò áîëüøîãî êàáèíåòà íà âûñòóïëåíèå,åñëè îí ó òåáÿ åñòü,çíà÷èò ó òåáÿ åñòü áàáêè,à åñëè åñòü áàáêè,òî î ïðîáëåìàõ ñ äîñòàâêîé ìîæíî çàáûòü.
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 22:00 
Ëåíÿ Íå Ìóõà



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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 22:09 



1. Êàê çâó÷èò "Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp" ÿ íå çíàþ.
ß åãî ïîïðîñòó íå ñëûøàë. À âñå îñòàëüíûå - ñ÷àñòëèâöû? ;)
2. Íî ýòî íå Dual Recti èëè Triple Recti!!!
Dual Recti - ýòî ïðåàìï(goto 1), ïîâåðàìï, ðîäíîé êàáèíåò(4x12", 8x12").
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 22:30 



Ðàíüøå íà ãèòàðñðó áûë òåñò - mesa boogie dual rect. preamp, Marshall êàæåòñÿ 800 èëè 2000 è Korg Pandora. ß íå çíàþ êàê îíè ýòó ìåñó ïèñàëè, íî çâóê íèêóäûøíûé áûë. Ïàíäîðà è òî ñîëèäíåé çâó÷àëà. Ìîæåò ãèòàðèñò ïðèêàëûâàëñÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 03.08.2005 00:08 
Ìèíñê
♪♫ ...

Äâå ãîëîâû? È òîëüêî? Âîí ó Èíãâè èõ ñêîëüê :) Öåëàÿ ñòåíà õàõàõà :lol:
"Âñå-òàêè òîæå íå ÿñíî êîãäà ëó÷øå... Êîãäà â ãîëîâå ïåñîê èëè, êîãäà âàêóóì..." (Ñ)D7
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Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 03.08.2005 08:01 



Mark Kornev
Åñëè ÿ íàïèñàë ïðî ïðîáëåìó äîñòàâêè îáîðóäîâàíèÿ íà âûñòóïëåíèÿ, çíà÷èò ýòà ïðîáëåìà åñòü ...

Ïðîñòî ïðè áîëüøîì æåëàíèè è íîðìàëüíîì êîëè÷åñòâå ñðåäñòâ íà ýòîò ðåêòèôåð ìîæíî íàêîïèòü çà 2 ãîäà ... è ÿ äóìàþ ýòî òîãî ñòîèò ...! ;)

È ýòî íå êàê íå ñêàçûâàåòñÿ íà äîñòàâêå ... âåäü åñëè ïðèä¸òñÿ îáÿçàòåëüíî ïîêóïàòü ê íåìó ãðîìîçäêèé êàáèíåò ... åãî áóäåò Î×ÅÍÜ ñëîæíî äîñòàâëÿòü íà âûñòóïëåíèå ...

Âîò ÿ è äóìàþ íà ñêîëüêî îòëè÷àåòñÿ ýòîò ïðåàìï è ýòà ãîëîâà ... ïî çâóêó ... Ïðåàìï ìîæíî ïîäêëþ÷àòü ê êîìáû è ó íåãî åñòü îòäåëüíûé âûõîä íà ìèêøåðíûé ïóëüò ñ ýìóëÿöèåé êîáèíåòà ... äà è çâó÷èò îí ïîòèøå, ÷òî äëÿ êëóáîâ íàìíîãî âûãîäíåé! ... íî âñ¸ òàêè èíòðåñòíî ÷òî áóäåò åñëè ïîäêëþ÷èòü ýòó ãîëîâó â ìèêøåðíûé ïóëüò è åñòü ëè â íåé ýìóëÿöèÿ êîáèíåòà!??? ... :)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 03.08.2005 09:27 
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ìëÿ íó òû ÷òî ëè íå ïîíèìàåøü, ÷òî ïðåàìï ýòî ÷àñòü ãîëîâû? Ê ïðåàìïû òû âîîáùå íèêàêîãî êàáèíåòà íå ïîäêëþ÷èøü íàïðÿìóþ, è âîîáùå ÿ íå ïîíèìàþ êàê ïðåàìï ìîæåò áûòü òèøå èëè ãðîì÷å ãîëîâû :-) È ïðèêèíü, ê ãîëîâå òåáå êàáèíåò íàäî, à ê ïðåàìïó - óñèëèòåëü ìîùíîñòè è òîò æå êàáèíåò :lol:
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 03.08.2005 09:53 



òüþáìåí êóïè ñåáå è íå ïàðüñÿ, îí ñòîèò ðîâíî â 5 ðàç äåøåâëå ýòîãî ïðåàìïà, à çâó÷èò íè÷óòü íå õóæå

íèêàêîé ýìóëÿöèè êàáèíåòà â ãîëîâå ðàçóìååòñÿ íåò. ýìóëÿöèÿ êàáèíåòà - îòñòîéíàÿ ôèøå÷êà äëÿ äîìîðîùåííûõ õîóì-ïëååðîâ. åñëè âîòêíóòü ãîëîâó â êîìáèê áåç àòòåíüþàòîðà, òî äèíàìèê ìîæíî çàïðîñòî ñïàëèòü
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Mesa Boogie Rectifier Recording Preamp
Âðåìÿ: 03.08.2005 10:32 



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íó ÷òî çà íàðîä ... ÿ ðàçâó õîòü ðàç íàïèñàë ... ÌÎÆÍÎ ËÈ ÏÎÄÊËÞ×ÈÒÜ ÏÐÅÀÌÏ Ê ÊÀÁÈÍÅÒÓ!!! ß ñïðàøèâàë ïðî ìåêøåðíûé ïóëüò ... à íà ñ÷¸ò ãðîìêîñòè ... ýòî ÿ ïðî âàòû ... äà è âîîáùå ýòî âñå íàïèñàíî íà îô. ñàéòå ìåñà áóã ... ðóññêîì ...
ëàíî ... ïðîåõàëè ...

êåøà
Íèêàêîé òþá ìåí íå ñðàâíèòüñÿ ñî çâóêîì ìåñà áóãîâñêîãî ïðåàìïà ... èëè ãîëîâû ... ýòî ïîäòâåðæäàåò è òî, ÷òî ýòî îáîðóäîâàíèå èñïîëüçóþò òàêèå ãðóïïû êàê Ìåòàëëèêà, Ðàìøòàéí, êîðí, ëèìï áèçêèò ... è ò.ä. è ò.ï. ! ;)
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!