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ß ñàì êëàâèøíèê, â ýòîì äåëå ðàçáèðàþñü ïîñòîëüêó-ïîñêîëüêó. Íî íàø ãèòàðèñò ðåøèë êóïèòü ñåáå ïðèìî÷êó, ïîïðîñèë ñïðîñèòü, êàê êîíêðåòíî îíà, èëè ýôôåêò êîòîðûé îíà ñîçäàåò íàçûâàåòñÿ. Ðå÷ü èäåò îá àïïàðàòå, êîòîðûé èñïîëüçóåò Ðè÷÷è Ñàìáîðà èç Bon Jovi â ïåðâûõ àêêîðäàõ è ïðîèãðûøàõ ê ïåñíå "It's My Life". ×òî-òî íàïîäîáèå ãîëîñîâîãî ìîäóëÿòîðà, íî â ñâÿçêå ñ ãèòàðîé. Îí îäíîâðåìåíííî äåðãàåò ñòðóíó íà ãèòàðå è ãîâîðèò â ñïåöèàëüíûé ìèêðîôîí ñ äëèííîé òðóáî÷êîé. Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ çâóê "Âîó-âîó". Ãèòàðèñò íàçûâàë ýòó øòóêó "âîêîäåð", õîòÿ ÿ çíàþ, ÷òî âîêîäåð - êëàâèøíûé èíñòðóììåíò, èìèòèðóþùèé çâóê ãîëîñà. Îò êîãî-òî ñëûøàë, ÷òî îí íàçûâàåòñÿ òèïà êàê "çîëîòîé ãîëîñ", íî íå íàøåë íè÷åãî ïîäîáíîãî â ïîèñêå. ß áû âîñïîëüçîâàëñÿ ïîèñêîì, íî íå çíàþ, ïî êàêîìó ñëîâó èñêàòü. Ïîäñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà, êàê íàçûâàåòñÿ òàêîå óñòðîéñòâî, èëè ýôôåêò, êîòîðûé îíî ìîäóëèðóåò. Åùå ëó÷øå - íàçâàíèÿ êîíêðåòíûõ äåâàéñîâ. Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðåí. |
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ìîæåò talk box? õç ãäå-òî ÿ òàêîå ñëîâî ñëûøàë... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êàê íàçûâàåòñÿ ïðèìî÷êà (ýôôåêò)
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Äâà âõîäà ó ïðèáîð÷èêà - äëÿ ìèêðîôîíà è èíñòðóìåíòà è îäèí âûõîä. ìíîãî êòî èñïîëüçóåò. ó Êëýïòîíà, íàïðèìåð, íà íåêîòîðûõ êîíöåðòàõ â ïåñíå wonderful tonight, êëàâèøíèê ñèíòåçàòîð ãîíèò ÷åðåç âîêîäåð. óæå óïîìèíàâøèéñÿ Ñàìáîðà, Åäæ èç ó2 è ò.ï. |
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Âîîáùå, sobako, ïðàâ - talk box ïðàâèëüíåå
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áëèí, òîðîïëþñü è âñå ðàçáèâàåòñÿ íà ðàçëè÷íûå ñîîáùåíèÿ, ñîððè âîò âîêîäåð+ãèòàðà: http://www.bluezone.nl/blue/instruments/sensorplate/berimbass/Midi_controller_1/vocoder_guitar/vocoder_guitar.html
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà 
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íî íà êîíöåðòàõ îí èñïîëüçóåò òîëêáîêñ 
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Äàäà ýò Òîëê Áîõñ
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PITERBURG
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Âîò îíî, òàì äýìî åñòü http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=287&pmh=products/p_and_e_detail | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êàê íàçûâàåòñÿ ïðèìî÷êà (ýôôåêò)
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ïðèñîåäåíþñü êî âñåìó ñêàçàííîìó, ýòî talkbox
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Òåìà: Re: Êàê íàçûâàåòñÿ ïðèìî÷êà (ýôôåêò)
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Ñïàñèáî âñåì îòêëèêíóâøèìñÿ! Õîðîøèé ôîðóì ó âàñ, ãèòàðèñòîâ! | |
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Tl; èç Þòó åãî âîîáùåòî íå èñïîëüçóåò
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ß òóò ïîêîïàëñÿ â èíòåðíåòå. Òîêáîêñ îïèñûâàþò êàê äâà ðàçíûõ óñòðîéñòâà. 1-å - öåëàÿ êîíñòðóêöèÿ, âêëþ÷àþùàÿ ïðèìî÷êó, êîìáèê, ïðèêðûòûé ôàíåðîé èç êîòîðîãî âûõîäèò øëàíã (òðóáêà), êîòîðûé êðåïèòñÿ ïàðàëëåëüíî ìèêðîôîíó è íàïðàâëåí â ðîò. Òàêèì îáðàçîì çâóê èç êîìáèêà ÷åðåç òðóáêó ïîïàäàåò â ðîò. Èçìåíÿÿ ôîðìó ðòà ìåíÿåòñÿ òåìáðîâàÿ îêðàñêà çâóêà, êîòîðûé çàòåì èäåò ìèêðîôîí, çàêðåïëåííûé ïàðàëëåëüíî òðóáêå. 2-å - ïðèìî÷êà TalkBox çà 200$. Ìîæåò ëè îíà çàìåíèòü êîíñòðóêöèþ 1? Äëÿ ÷åãî îíà âîîáùå íóæíà? Êàê ðàáîòàåò? Ïîÿñíèòå ïîæàëóéñòà. |
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Âî âòîðîì âàðèàíòå âìåñòî ïàñòè ïåäàëü, âðîäå (â ãèòàð ðèãå åñòü ýòîò òàëêáîêñ, óïðàâëÿåòñÿ ïåäàëüþ) Òîãäà ýòî î÷åíü ïîõîæå áóäåò íà âàó ïåäàëü ------------------------------------- Âèä åë âðîäå Ñêîðïèîíñ íà êîíöåðòå ñ òàêè øëàíãîì èãðàëè, íà 1 àêêîðäå òàêîå ìíîãîîáðàçèå çâóêîâ! Êðóòî âàùå, ÿ áû íå îòêàçàëñÿ îò òàêîé õðåíè... |
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à åñëè øëàíã íàïðàâëÿåòñÿ â æîïó òî ýòî íàçûâàåòñÿ íå òîëêáîêñ 
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Åñëè â äåòñòâå ó âàñ íå áûëî âåëîñèïåäà , à ñåé÷àñ BMW 750i òî â äåòñòâå ó âàñ âñå ðàâíî âåëîñèïåäà íå áûëî!(c)
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Ãîâðîðÿùàÿ êîðîáî÷êà,ìóäð¸íûé ýôôåêò,ïðèìî÷êîé ïàðêòè÷åñêè íåäîñòåæèì,âàé èñïîëüçîâàë äâà äèâàéñà ýôôåêòîâ ÷òîá åãî ñäåëàòü(íà óðîâíå êîíå÷íî) ìåòëà òîæå âðîäå èñïîëüçîâàëè, åæëè ýòî áóäåò äåøîâûé ïðåáîð÷èê òî âûäàñò îí ñîâñåì íå òî íà ÷òî ðàùèòûâàåø,èíà÷å ìíîãî êòî ïîëüçîâàëñÿ áû | |
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Ñîëíöåâî Îôñëûùò ÑÀËÎåñò, Ñàíòà Ôå, Ýëèòíûé Êàëèôîðíèéñêèé Ìîëîòîê 
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Ó Áîíà Äæîâè è Ñàìáîðû òîê-áîêñ, à âîêîäåð ÷åì-òî íàïîìèíàåò òîê-áîêñ, íî åãî çâó÷àíèå áîëåå "ðîáîòèçèðîâàííîå", ýëåêòðîííîå. | |
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Ïðîñëóøàë äåìêó òàì íà ñàéòå,î÷åíü íàïîìíèëî çâóê ïèíê ôëîéäà â ïåñíå pigs(Three Different Ones) òàì ãäå òî ñ 5 ìèíóò âðîäå,ÿ òàê ïîíèìàþ òîæå ñàìûé ýôôåêò ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êàê íàçûâàåòñÿ ïðèìî÷êà (ýôôåêò)
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ÑÏá ôîðòåïèàíî 
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1-å - öåëàÿ êîíñòðóêöèÿ, âêëþ÷àþùàÿ ïðèìî÷êó, êîìáèê, ïðèêðûòûé ôàíåðîé èç êîòîðîãî âûõîäèò øëàíã (òðóáêà), êîòîðûé êðåïèòñÿ ïàðàëëåëüíî ìèêðîôîíó è íàïðàâëåí â ðîò. Òàêèì îáðàçîì çâóê èç êîìáèêà ÷åðåç òðóáêó ïîïàäàåò â ðîò. Èçìåíÿÿ ôîðìó ðòà ìåíÿåòñÿ òåìáðîâàÿ îêðàñêà çâóêà, êîòîðûé çàòåì èäåò ìèêðîôîí, çàêðåïëåííûé ïàðàëëåëüíî òðóáêå. èìåííî òàê áûëî â êëèïå ó áîí äæîâè...! |
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òîëêáîêñ âîîáùå ïðèíöèïèàëüíî ðàçíûå äåâàéñû ïîõîæè òîëüêî îòäàëåííî ïî çâó÷àíèþ òîëêáîêñ - ýòî ÷òî òî òèïà êâàêà , òîëüêî ðòîì
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Âîò ýòî ñäåëàíî êàê ðàç ðòîì ÿ òàê ïîíèìàþ ÷åðåç òîëêáîêñ ? | |
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êà÷àòü íå ñòàë , íî ñóäÿ ïî âñÿìó - ðàç ýòî Ýäãàé , òî âîçìîæåí è àíàë =) | |
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Íå,æîïà òàêèå âûñîêèå íîòû íå âûäàñò )) íó êà÷íè,ìíå ïðîñòî ñàìîìó èíòåðåñíî ýòî è åñòü òîëêáîêñ èëè ÷åò äðóãîå | |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèòàðà 
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ìåòàëëèêà íåçàáâåííàÿ òîæå þçàåò!) ïîìîéìó âåùü Hose that Jack built |
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Ñ ñàéòà http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_box (òóò æå ôàê ïî òîêáîêñó è ðàçíûå âîïðîñû) Èñïîëíèòåëè, ðåãóëÿðíî èñïîëüçóþùèå ÒîêÁîêñ * Bon Jovi (Richie Sambora) — many songs since the late 1980s. As a lead instrument: "It's My Life", "Livin' on a Prayer". As a backing instrument: "Everyday", "Bounce", "One Wild Night", "All I Want Is Everything", "I Want to Be Loved" as well as other songs. * Roger Troutman — most songs, examples: "Computer Love", "More Bounce to the Ounce", "Doo Wa Ditty". Troutman is also featured as a talk box player on numerous hip hop and R'n'B recordings including the well known "California Love" by 2pac * Zapp and Roger — most songs, examples: "Funky Bounce", "Dance Floor", "Radio People" * The Funktion (Paul Holt) — All of his songs include a talkbox examples: "Feel This Groove", "It's Time", "The Girl Is Bad", "You're Such a Mirage", "So What the Fuss"(originally by Stevie Wonder) Èñïîëíèòåëè, ðåäêî èñïîëüçóþùèå ÒîêÁîêñ * Above the Law — "Summer Days", "Apocalypse Now" * Aerosmith (Joe Perry) — "Sweet Emotion" * Alice in Chains (Jerry Cantrell) — "Man in the Box", "Rotten Apple" * Blackstreet — "No Diggity", "Don't Leave Me" * Black Label Society — "Fire It Up", "Blacked Out World", "Concrete Jungle", "Dirt On The Grave", "Too Tough To Die" * Black Sabbath - "Iron Man" * Bootsy Collins — "#1 Funkateer", "Shin-o-Myte" * Carlos Santana — "Stand Up" * Cinnamon Joe (Cristman Lumsden) — "Heat Lightning" * Coheed and Cambria (Travis Stever) — "The Light and the Glass", "The Final Cut" * Daft Punk — "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" * DJ Quik — "Safe + Sound", "Can I Eat It?" * Emerson Lake and Palmer - "New Orleans" * The Flaming Lips — "The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song", "The Wizard Turns On..." * Foo Fighters (Dave Grohl) — "Generator" * Peter Frampton — "Do You Feel Like We Do", "Show Me the Way," "Black Hole Sun" * Godsmack - "I Stand Alone" * Guns N' Roses, Velvet Revolver — (Slash) — "Rocket Queen (live)", "Anything Goes", "Hair of the Dog", "Dust n' Bones", "Money" (Velvet Revolver) * Kam — "Trust Nobody", "In Traffic" * Kid Rock — "I Am the Bullgod (Talkbox Version)" * Kool G Rap - "My Life" * The Lafayette Afro Rockband — "Darkest Light", "Scorpion Flower", "Voodounon" * Lo-Fi Allstars — "Dark Is Easy", "Don't Be Afraid of Love" * Metallica (Kirk Hammett) — "The House Jack Built" * moe. (Chuck Garvey) - "Happy Hour Hero", "Nebraska(album version)" * Mötley Crüe (Mick Mars) — "Kickstart My Heart" * Muse — "Supermassive Black Hole", "Muscle Museum" * Mushroomhead - "Erase The Doubt" * Nazareth (Manny Charlton) — "Hair of the Dog", "Born Under the Wrong Sign" * Nickelback — "Breathe", "Woke Up This Morning" * Pink Floyd (David Gilmour) — "Keep Talking", "Pigs (Three Different Ones)" * Queen (Brian May) — "Delilah" * Rage Against the Machine (Tom Morello) — "Wake Up" and "Guerrilla Radio" * Rascal Flatts — "Me and My Gang" * Red Hot Chili Peppers (Dave Navarro) -- "Falling Into Grace", "Funky Crime" (Hillel Slovak) * Scorpions (Matthias Jabs) — "The Zoo", "To Be Number One", "Can You Feel It", "Money and Fame" * Snoop Dogg — "What's My Name", "Snoop Bounce" * Soulive — "Romantic", "Back Again" * Steely Dan — "Haitian Divorce", "East St. Louis Toodle-oo" * Timbaland - "Wait a Minute" (with the Pussycat Dolls) * Tool (Adam Jones) — "Jambi", "Rosetta Stoned" * Joe Walsh — "Rocky Mountain Way", "Those Shoes" (with Eagles) * Johnny Guitar Watson — "A Real Mother for Ya", "Your Love Is My Love" * Chris Weber -- "It's Alright" U.P.O. * Weezer — "Beverly Hills", * The Wild Magnolias — "Cory Died on the Battlefield", "Smoke My Peace Pipe (Smoke It Right)" * Stevie Wonder — "1-2-3 Sesame Street", "Love Having You Around" * Michał Urbaniak — "Street Talk", "Paris Groove" |
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Òåìà: Re: Êàê íàçûâàåòñÿ ïðèìî÷êà (ýôôåêò)
Âðåìÿ: 20.01.2007 23:12 |
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À òóò - ðàçíûå ìîäåëè: http://www.blamepro.com/talkboxF.htm |
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Òåìà: Re: Êàê íàçûâàåòñÿ ïðèìî÷êà (ýôôåêò)
Âðåìÿ: 21.01.2007 00:30 |
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âî,ïðî ïèíê ôëîéä ÿ áûë ïðàâ,ýòî òî çíà÷èò | |
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