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Àâòîð Òåìà: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 12:44 



Ðåøèë ïåðåõîäèòü â ðåêîâûé ôîðìàò è âñòàë âîïðîñ ñ âûáîðîì ïàâåð àìïà.Åñòü ëè
ïðèíöèïåàëüíîå îòëè÷èå â çâóêå ó íèõ,êðîìå êà÷åñòâà è ìîùíîñòè?Çíàêîìûé
òåõíèê ñêàçàë ÷òî îñîáûõ îòëè÷èé íåò.

Êàáèíåò áóäó áðàòü 1960A è ïðåàìï ENGL E 570,à âîò â ïàâåð àìïå ñêëîíÿþñü ïîêà
ê Mesa 2:90 (èòî òîëüêî ïîòîìó÷òî åãî þçàëè Êàçàðåñ è Ìèê Òîìñîí)


:4:
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 12:45 
Òîðîíòî


Åñòü íà ïðèìåòå åù¸ Marshall 9200 è Peavey Classic 60/60
Ðóêè>ESP MH-1000>ENGL E530>êóäà ïðèä¸òñÿ
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 12:49 



Òîëñòûé ìåêñ,

Íó òû æå çíàåøü, ÷òî ïàóýð ìåíüøå âñåãî íà çâóê â öåïè âëèÿåò, íî òåì íå ìåíåå âñ¸-ðàâíî ïðèäà¸ò ñâîé îòòåíîê.

Íàïåð¸ä ñêàæó, ÷òî ýòîò îòòåíîê óáèðàåòñÿ, èëè äåëàåòñÿ äðóãèì, ïðîñòûì 31 ïîëîñíûì ýêâàëàéçåðîì, êîòîðûé â ðýêå â õîðîøåì, èìõî, äîëæåí áûòü. Òàê ÷òî ïàóýð - ýòî íå ñóòü âàæíî. :idea2:
Instincts are misleading. You should think what you're feeling.
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 12:51 
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

Åù¸ åñòü ENGL E-850/100, E-840/50 :idea2:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 12:54 
Òîðîíòî


>Åù¸ åñòü ENGL E-850/100, E-840/50

äîðîãîâàòî áóäåò, ÿ â 700-800 õî÷ó óëîæèòüñÿ (òå ïîäåðæàíûé áðàòü áóäó)
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 13:08 
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

Òîëñòûé ìåêñ, ÷¸ò óæå âòîðîé ðàç íà ôîðóìå âñòðå÷àþ ãîðîä Òîðîíòî(ó òåáÿ ó âòîðîãî). Ýòî ÷òî, ïðèêîë èëè åñòü êàêàÿ-òî ñâÿçü ñ ýòèì ãîðîäîì? :)
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 13:16 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
âèëû

>Íó òû æå çíàåøü, ÷òî ïàóýð ìåíüøå âñåãî íà çâóê â öåïè âëèÿåò, íî òåì íå ìåíåå âñ¸-ðàâíî ïðèäà¸ò ñâîé îòòåíîê.

áðåä...
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 13:22 
Òîðîíòî


Íó ÿ êàêáû æèâó â Òîðîíòî :4:
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 13:23 
Òîðîíòî


ÿ íå äóìàþ ÷òî â ðîññèè 2:90 ìîæíî çà $800 êóïèòü :da:
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 13:29 



Philby
>>>áðåä...
×åì? :4:
Instincts are misleading. You should think what you're feeling.
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 13:30 
Òîðîíòî


Ôèëáè çâ¸çäî÷êè çàðàáàòûâàåò :199:
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Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 13:37 
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

>Íó ÿ êàêáû æèâó â Òîðîíòî


À ãäå èìåííî? ß òàì òîæ îäíî âðåìÿ æèë....
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 13:40 
Òîðîíòî


http://maps.google.com/maps?
f=q&hl=ru&geocode=&q=1512+King+St+W,+Toronto,+ON,+Canada&sll=43.649988,
-79.385834&sspn=0.522671,1.235962&ie=UTF8&ll=43.636526,-
79.4401&spn=0.008169,0.019312&z=16


:)
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 13:41 
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Canad
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êàðòó
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 13:42 
Òîðîíòî


:7:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=ru&geocode=&q=1512+King+St+W,+Toronto
,+ON,+Canada&sll=43.64855,79.38535&sspn=0.52268,1.235962&ie=UTF8&ll=43.63
651,-79.441023&spn=0.008169,0.019312&z=16

êàðî÷å 1512 King Street West
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 14:15 
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

>
>êàðî÷å 1512 King Street West


Ïîíÿòíî. Ýòî íå äàëåêî îò òîãî ìåñòà, ãäå ÿ îáèòàë. ß æèë íà ïåðåñå÷åíèè Roncesvalles è Howard Park. À ïî Lake shore ìû ÷àñòî åçäèëè ïî ðàáîòå, è òàê ïî ãîðîäó ìíîãî åçäèëè - â îñíîâíîì çàïàä è öåíòð. Âîîáùå, ýòîò êóñîê - îò High Park î Yonge Str. - ÿ çíàþ íå ïëîõî. ×àñòåíüêî ïåøêîì õîäèë â Äàóí òàóí(ïî ïóòè â Steve's çàõîäèë). Õîòÿ òàì èäòè ÷àñà ïîëòîðà... :) :) :)
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 20:56 
Òîðîíòî


>×àñòåíüêî ïåøêîì õîäèë â Äàóí òàóí

:7: âîò ýòî âïå÷àòëÿþùå (Ñ)

Åù¸ ñîâåòû áóäóò?
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Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 21:01 
Ìîñêâà÷êàëà
Ãèòàðà

>Òîëñòûé ìåêñ,
>
>Íó òû æå çíàåøü, ÷òî ïàóýð ìåíüøå âñåãî íà çâóê â öåïè âëèÿåò, íî òåì íå ìåíåå âñ¸-ðàâíî ïðèäà¸ò ñâîé îòòåíîê.

êîíåö êàê ðàç íàèáîëüøèé âêëàä â ñàóíä äà¸ò âî âñåé öåïî÷êå, ïðè÷¸ì ãëîáàëüíàÿ ðàçíèöà ìåæäó êîíöîì íàãðóæåííûì, íàïðèìåð äèáîêñîì èëè êàáèíåòîì
Poshol nahui
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 21:41 
Òîðîíòî


Ïî òåìå ïîæàëéñòà ,íå îá ýòîì êàêáý ñàáæ
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Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 21:55 



,,,=^o^=,,,,
ß êîíöû íèêîãäà íå íàãðóæàþ, íå íðàâèòñÿ ìíå èõ çâóê "â ðåæèìå ãðåëêè"

À ïî ìíå äàê ïðåàìï, ãèòàðà, êàáèíåò è ìèêðîôîí íàèáîëüøèé âêëàä äàþò. :idea2: Ìû ñ òîáîé èç ðàçíûõ ìèðîâ ïîõîæå. :spookie:
Instincts are misleading. You should think what you're feeling.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 23:21 
Êëèí


Òîëñòûé ìåêñ êàæäûé îêîíå÷íèê çâó÷èò ïî ðàçíîìó ïóñòü è ãîâîðÿò ÷òî îí ëèø íåìíîãî îêðàøèâàåò çâóê.Ïîñëå ïîêóïêè îêîíå÷íèêà Ìåñû ìíå ïðèøëîñü ìåíÿòü íàñòðîéêè ïðåàìïà ÷òîáû ïîëó÷èòü òðåáóåìûé çâóê,êîòîðîãî ÿ ðàíüøå äîáèâàëñÿ âñòàâëÿÿ ïðåàìï â ðàçðûâ ëàìïîâîé áîøêè!
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 23:26 



brunetti

Íó êàêãáû åñëè íàñòðîåê òâîåãî ïðåàìïà õâàòèëî ÷òîáû ïîäñòðîèòüñÿ ïîä íàâûé àìï, òî îí èìåííî îêðàøèâàåò, à íå ìåíÿåò ïðèíöèïèàëüíî çâóê. Õîòÿ ïîõîæå, ÷òî ó êàæäîãî ñîâè ïîíÿòèÿ î òîì, ÷òî òàêîå îêðàñ çâóêà è ÷òî òàêîå ïðèíöèïèàëüíîå åãî èçìåíåíèå.

Àôòàðó óäà÷è â âûáîðå. ß óìûâàþ ðóêè :)
Instincts are misleading. You should think what you're feeling.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2008 23:32 
Òîðîíòî


,kz,âîïðîñ íå â òîì íàñêîëüêî îí îêðàøèâàåò,à ÿ ïðî âûáîð ìîæäó êîíêðåòíûìè
ìîäåëÿìè ãîâîðþ
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Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 00:06 



Òîëñòûé ìåêñ

ß áû ïî öåíå è ìîùå âûáèðàë. :)
Instincts are misleading. You should think what you're feeling.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 00:43 



// ß êîíöû íèêîãäà íå íàãðóæàþ, íå íðàâèòñÿ ìíå èõ çâóê "â ðåæèìå ãðåëêè" //
Âèäèìî, ïëîõèå ïîïàäàëèñü. Õðóñò ãðóæåíîãî îêîíöà - ýòî òðóÚ.
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 03:20 
Òîðîíòî


íó îê,áóäó îõîòèòüñÿ çà ìåçîé 2:90 :)
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 12:54 
Êëèí


Áåðåçîâûé ïåíü äëÿ ìåíÿ îêðàñ ýòî ëàìïîâîñòü çâóêà è íàñûùåíèå ÷åòíûìè ãàðìîíèêàìè,à õàðàêòåð çâóêà ýòî âëèÿíèå ÷àñòîòíîé õàðàêòåðèñòèêè!
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 15:07 



:lol: Ïðîåõàëè. :)
Instincts are misleading. You should think what you're feeling.
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 15:11 
Ìîñêâà÷êàëà
Ãèòàðà

íàñ÷¸ò ÷àñòîòêè

è ëàìïîâûé è òðàíçèñòîðíûé êîíåö áåç íàãðóçêè âûäàþò ïðàêòè÷åñêè îäèíàêîâóþ ãîðáóëèíó, íî ñòîèò ïîäñîåäåíèòü êàáèíåò, ó òðàíçþêà íè÷åãî íå ìåíÿåòñÿ, à ó ëàìïû à÷õ ïðåâðàùàåòñÿ â çèãçàãè
Poshol nahui
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 16:26 



,,,=^o^=,,,

À êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà, ÷òî îí áåç íàãðóçêè âûäà¸ò? Òîëüêî ðàçâå ÷òî íà îñöèëîãðàôå ïîãëàçåòü )))))))))))) Ò.å. ýòè "çèãçàãè" ìîæíî ñ÷èòàòü åãî ðîäíîé ïîñòîÿííîé À×Õ âîò è âñ¸. :)
Instincts are misleading. You should think what you're feeling.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 16:29 



Òîëñòûé ìåêñ

>>>>íó îê,áóäó îõîòèòüñÿ çà ìåçîé 2:90

Õîðîøèé âûáîð! :super:
Instincts are misleading. You should think what you're feeling.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 16:52 
Òîðîíòî


:super:
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 17:07 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Warmoth JDB

Êñòàòè, ìíå îäíîìó êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî íà àâàòàðå Òîëñòîãî ìåêñà - Áóäâàéçåð?
Ãîëîâà -> ðóêè -> ãèòàðû -> îáðàáîòêà
âûëîæèë (ñâîå òâîð÷åñòâî íà ÌÔ-ïðèì.) - ïîëó÷è ñâîþ ïîðöèþ êàëà è áóäü ñòîåê è òâåðä (ñ) Ìèõàëû÷ú 40‰
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 17:32 
Òîðîíòî


>Êñòàòè, ìíå îäíîìó êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî íà àâàòàðå Òîëñòîãî ìåêñà - Áóäâàéçåð?

:da:
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 19:53 



>,,,=^o^=,,,,
>ß êîíöû íèêîãäà íå íàãðóæàþ, íå íðàâèòñÿ ìíå èõ çâóê "â ðåæèìå ãðåëêè"
>
>À ïî ìíå äàê ïðåàìï, ãèòàðà, êàáèíåò è ìèêðîôîí íàèáîëüøèé âêëàä äàþò. Ìû ñ òîáîé èç ðàçíûõ ìèðîâ ïîõîæå.

à ìíå òóò ãîâîðèëè ÷òî áåç êîíöà äèíàìèê õðåí êà÷íåøü :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 19:56 



floryk85

À ìíå ãîâîðèëè ÷òî íà ñëóõ êóé ðàçíûå êàíöû îïðåäåëèøü! :idea2:
Instincts are misleading. You should think what you're feeling.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 20:01 



Íó ýòî ðàçóìååòñÿ ïðè òîì, ÷òî äåìîíñòðèðóþùèé íå õî÷åò, ÷òîá òû èõ îïðåäåëèë. À-òî âåäü ïî ðàçíîìó ïîíÿòü ìîæíî :)
Instincts are misleading. You should think what you're feeling.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 20:03 
Ìîñêâà÷êàëà
Ãèòàðà

îêîíå÷íûå ëàìïû êàðäèíàëüíî îòëè÷àþòñÿ ïî ñàóíäó, è ðåæèì èõ þçàíüÿ òîæå

ïðåàìï â ëèíèþ ýòî îäíî, êîíåö æå ñîâåðøåííî äðóãîå äûõàíèå, ïî òàêòèëüíûì îùóùåíèÿì, êàê áóäòî äåðæèøü â ðóêàõ ïðûãàþùèé ìÿ÷èê, èëè ïòèöó, èëè õîìÿêà, ÷òîòî æèâîå, êîòîðîå ïûòàåòñÿ âûðâàòüñÿ è óáåæàòü, õîòÿ íà ñîâðåìåííîì ãîâíîæåëåçå âñ¸ íàïðî÷ü çàêîìïðåññèðîâàíî è îùóùàåøü ýòî òîëüêî íà çàïèñè
íà ïðîñëóøèâàíèå óæå ñïëîøíîé èíêóáàòîð
Poshol nahui
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 20:05 



êñòàòè ïîñîâåòóéòå îêîíå÷íèê ÷òîá äåøåãî è ñåðäèòî ïëèç :)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 20:06 
Ìîñêâà÷êàëà
Ãèòàðà

íà ñèñüêó áîëüø âñåãî ïîõîæå :idea2:
Poshol nahui
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Power Amp
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2008 20:06 



>>>>îêîíå÷íûå ëàìïû êàðäèíàëüíî îòëè÷àþòñÿ ïî ñàóíäó, è ðåæèì èõ þçàíüÿ òîæå

Îòëè÷àþòñÿ, íî íå êàðäèíàëüíî. Ðåæèìû îòëè÷àþòñÿ ñèëüíåå ïî çâóêó.
Instincts are misleading. You should think what you're feeling.
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!