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Òåìà: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 03.05.2010 11:14 
ã. Êîðîë¸â
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Äîáðûé äåíü, ìóçûêàíòû!

A serious program error occurred.
Live will shut down after this message box is closed.


ß ñëûøàë è ÷èòàë, ÷òî ýòà ïðîáëåìêà âîçíèêàåò ó ìíîãèõ ñ ABLETON LIVE.

Ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ëþäè ïðîáîâàëè çàïóñêàòü íà áîëåå ìîùíûõ êîìïàõ ïðîåêò â ABLETON LIVE è âñ¸ ðàâíî ãëþê òàêîé âîçíèêàë. Äàæå è â Cubase è â Ôðóòè Ëóïñ òîæå ÷òî-òî òèïà òîãî âîçíèêàåò è âûêèäûâàåò ïðè ðàáîòå ñ VSTi.

Ó ìåíÿ âîçíèêàåò ýòà îøèáêà ïðè îòêðûòèè îêíà East West Orchestra Gold Edition. Ýòà îøèáêà íàïðÿãàåò, ò.ê. íå äà¸ò äîáàâèòü íîâûé èíñòðóìåíò â îðêåñòð è íîðìàëüíî ïðîäîëæèòü òðåê.

Îäèí ÷åëîâåê ñêàçàë, ÷òî òîëüêî ÷òî ïåðåóñòàíîâëåííîé ñèñòåìû õâàòàåò íà 1-2 íåäåëè áåçîøèáî÷íîé ðàáîòû ABLETON LIVE è äðóãèõ ïðîãðàìì, ÷òî ÿ ïåðå÷èñëèë âûøå, è ïîòîì ãëþêè âíîâü ïîÿâëÿþòñÿ.

Åñëè êòî çíàåò êàê ðåøèòü ýòó ïðîáëåìêó, îòïèøèòåñü, ïîæàëóéñòà! :)
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 03.05.2010 17:03 



Ñì log-ôàéë (.....Application Data/Ableton/Live/Preferences/log.txt). ×àùå âñåãî ñåé ýððîð âîçíèêàåò ïðè ïîïûòêå ïîäãðóçèòü èíñòðóìåíòû, ïî âåñó ïðåâûøàþùèå äîñòóïíûé îáú¸ì îïåðàòèâû ;)
Nobody's laughing here..
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 04.05.2010 19:27 
ã. Êîðîë¸â
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à ÷òî òàì ïðèìåðíî äîëæíî áûòü íàïèñàíî, ÿ îòêðûë ýòîò Ëîã è òàì ìàëî ÷òî ïîíÿòíî, åäèíñòâåííîå ÷òî íàøëîñü ñ Åððîð:
44315 ms. ASIO: ASIO4ALL v2: CreateBuffer: finished -------------------------------------
44317 ms. ASIO: ASIO4ALL v2: ASIOGetClockSource returnd error code: 'ASE_OK: Call was succesful :0'
44670 ms. ASIO: ASIO4ALL v2: Open: Used SampleRate: 44100)
44695 ms. ASIO: ASIO4ALL v2: Open: finished -------------------------------------
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 04.05.2010 22:28 

Allen & Heath, Mackie, Fender, Sennheiser, AKG, Tascam, TC, DBX

ASIO4ALL :oooi:
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 05.05.2010 16:59 
ã. Êîðîë¸â
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>ASIO4ALL
À ÷òî â ASIO4ALL íå òàê? Îíî íå äà¸ò ìàëîìîùíîìó êîìïó çàâèñíóòü. :)
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 05.05.2010 18:02 

Allen & Heath, Mackie, Fender, Sennheiser, AKG, Tascam, TC, DBX

> Îíî íå äà¸ò ìàëîìîùíîìó êîìïó çàâèñíóòü.

Äà, íå äàåò. Òîëüêî ýòî ýìóëÿòîð à íå ïîëíîöåííîå Àñèî.

Ïî òåìå - ïðîáëåììà ñêîðåå âñåãî êàê óæå âûøå îïèñàëè â íåõâàòêå ðåñóðñîâ âàøåãî ÏÊ. Êîãäà âîçíèêàåò ýòà îøèáêà çàãëÿíèòå â äèñïåò÷åð çàäà÷ è ïîñìîòðèòå ñêîëüêî çàäåéñòâîâàíî ïðè ýòîì ôèçè÷åñêîé ïàìÿòè è ðåñóðñîâ ïðîöåññîðà.
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 07.05.2010 09:46 
ã. Êîðîë¸â
êëàâèøè

Äà, â äîïîëíåíèå ê ýòîé òåìå, êàê ðàç êîãäà ïðîö ãðóçèòñÿ íà 100% - òðåñê ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ è ïðîïàäàåò çâóê! ó ìåíÿ AMD Atlon 64FX 2.0 (3200). 3200 - íå ïîìíþ ÷òî òàêîå, óâèäåë â îáîçíà÷åíèè ïðîöåññîðà. Ñåé÷àñ çàíèìàþñü ïîèñêîì îïòèìàëüíîãî êîìïüòåðà äëÿ ðàáîòû ñ VSTi.
Âèäåë ïðîöû ñ ÷àñòîòîé øèíû 2500 Ìãö, äóìàþ, åñëè âçÿòü äàæå ÷àñòîòó ïðîöà ìåíüøå 3 Ããö, òî ñ òàêîé ÷àñòîòîé øèíû - áóäåò âñ¸ ðàáîòàòü íîðì. Õîòÿ ìîæåò îøèáàþñü. ×èòàë â èíåòå, ÷òî íàäî ïðîö áðàòü áîëüøå 3 Ããö äëÿ êîìïà ñòóäèéíîãî, íî òóò ñòîëüêî ïàðàìåòðîâ: ÿäðî è êîëëè÷åñòâî ÿäåð, ÷àñòîòà øèíû è äðóãîå... Êòî çíàåò, ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, êàêèå ïàðàìåòû âàæíû, à êàêèå íå âàæíû äëÿ áûñòðîäåéñòâèÿ êîìïüþòåðà ïðè ðàáîòå ñ VSTi? :)
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 08.05.2010 00:24 

Allen & Heath, Mackie, Fender, Sennheiser, AKG, Tascam, TC, DBX

industrial , ÷òîá ïðîö íå ãðóçèëñÿ ïðè ðàáîòå ñ VST/VST-i â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü íóæíà àïïàðàòíàÿ ïîääåðæêà ASIO â çâóêîâîé êàðòå, ýìóëÿòîðû òèïî ASIO4ALL õîòü è óáèðàþò çàäåðæêè, íî ïðîö íå ðàçãðóæàþò, ïîòîìó êàê ðàáîòàþò ÷åðåç WDM.

Íó à äàëüøå VST-i åäÿò ðåñóðñû ïàìÿòè, ïðè ýòîì â áîëüøåé ñòåïåíè ÷åðåç ñèñòåìíûé êýø, VST åäÿò ðåñóðñû ïðîöåññîðà. Íà ñ÷åò ìíîãîÿäåðíîñòè çäåñü çàâèñèò îò òîãî êàê ïðîãðàììû õîñòà.
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 08.05.2010 00:26 

Allen & Heath, Mackie, Fender, Sennheiser, AKG, Tascam, TC, DBX

Ïàðäîí.
Íà ñ÷åò ìíîãîÿäåðíîñòè çäåñü çàâèñèò îò òîãî êàê îíà ðåàëèçîâàíà â ïðîãðàììå-õîñòå.
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 08.05.2010 09:59 
ã. Êîðîë¸â
êëàâèøè

Çàáûë ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ó ìåíÿ Audigy 2 ñ ïîääåðæêîé ASIO! :14:

À ùà âîîáùå ïîÿâèëàñü îøèáêà â ïåðåñîõðàí¸ííîì ïðîåêòå ïîä íîâûì èìåíåì.

" There is not enough memory available. Please save your Live Set now and quit. "
âìåñòå ñ îøèáêîé: " Microsoft visual c++ runtime library ".

Õîòÿ íåäàâíîå äîêóïèë 3-é ñëîò ïàìÿòè - òåðåðü 3 ãèãà.. È ïèøåò ìàëî ïàìÿòè :-)
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 08.05.2010 15:10 

Allen & Heath, Mackie, Fender, Sennheiser, AKG, Tascam, TC, DBX

> çàáûë ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ó ìåíÿ Audigy 2 ñ ïîääåðæêîé ASIO!

Òàê ýòîæ õîðîøî! Òîëüêî ïî÷åìó òû íå ïîëüçóåøüñÿ àïïàðàòíûì Àñèî ñâîåé êàðòû, à èñïîëüçóåøü ýìóëÿòîðîì Àñèî äëÿ WDM ASIO4ALL?
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 08.05.2010 18:31 
ã. Êîðîë¸â
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Äóìàë, ÷òî îí íå òàê òîðìîçèò - õîòÿ ùà ïîíÿë, ÷òî â àïïàðàòíîì Àñèî òîæå ìîæíî çàäåðæêó âûñòàâëÿòü áîëåå äëèííóþ! Ïîâ¸ëñÿ ïðîñòî.
À âîò ðåàëüíî ïðè 2 ms òðåùèò çâóê - íàâåðíî ïðîöà íå õâàòàåò.
Êñòàòè åñòü çâóêîâóõè ñ Àñèî - ñ 1 èëè 0 ms çàäåðæêîé?
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 09.05.2010 02:41 

Allen & Heath, Mackie, Fender, Sennheiser, AKG, Tascam, TC, DBX

> Äóìàë, ÷òî îí íå òàê òîðìîçèò

Ñ òî÷íîñòüþ äîíàîáîðîò. Òîðìîçèòü íà ýìóëÿòîðå áóäåò áîëüøå. Ñíåñè è çàáóäü î ASIO4ALL, åñëè ó êàðòû àïïàðàòíûé Àñèî, ïîëüçóéñÿ åå ðîäíûì Àñèî-äðàéâåðîì.

> À âîò ðåàëüíî ïðè 2 ms òðåùèò çâóê - íàâåðíî ïðîöà íå õâàòàåò.

Äà. Âîîáùå-òî 2 mc - ýòî î÷åíü-î÷åíü õîðîøî. Íà 6-10 ìñ çàäåðæêà åùå ñîâñåì íåîùóòèìà, òàê ÷òî ìîæíî óâåëè÷èâàòü ñìåëî.Êàêîé êàìåíü êñòàòè?
Ïîïðîáóé åñëè òðåùèò åùå ïîìåíÿòü ïðèîðèòåò íà ïðîöåññ ABLETON LIVE èëè ÷åì òû ïîëüçóåøüñÿ äî âûñîêîãî, èëè ðåàëüíîãî âðåìåíè â äèñïåò÷åðå çàäà÷.

> Êñòàòè åñòü çâóêîâóõè ñ Àñèî - ñ 1 èëè 0 ms çàäåðæêîé?

Ýòî êàê? Ñ íóëåâîé çàäåðæêîé íè÷åãî áûòü íå ìîæåò. Ëþáîé ïîòîê, áóòü òî èíôîðìàöèÿ èëè ÷òî äðóãîå òðåáóåò âðåìåíè äëÿ ïåðåìåùåíèÿ. Ýòî æ çàêîí ïðèðîäû. :-)
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 10.05.2010 18:27 
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Êàêóþ áþäæåòíóþ íå äîðîæå 5 òûñ. ðóáëåé ìîæåòå ïîñîâåòàâàòü çâóêîâóõó ñ 1 ms çàäåðæêîé?

Ó ìåíÿ ïðè 2 ms, êîãäà ÿ èñïîëüçóþ â êà÷åñòâå midi êëàâû öèôðîâîå ïèàíèíî, òî ïðè âêëþ÷¸íîì çâóêå â öèôðîâîì ïèàíèíî ñëûøíî, ÷òî çâóê îò êîìïà ðàñõîäèòñÿ.

Ìîæ ïðàâäà ïðîö. :)
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 11.05.2010 01:32 

Allen & Heath, Mackie, Fender, Sennheiser, AKG, Tascam, TC, DBX

> òî ïðè âêëþ÷¸íîì çâóêå â öèôðîâîì ïèàíèíî ñëûøíî, ÷òî çâóê îò êîìïà ðàñõîäèòñÿ.

Âîîáùå ðàçíèöó â 2 ìèëèñåêóíäû ÷åëîâåê ôèçè÷åñêè íå ìîæåò îùóùàòü, òàê ÷òî òóò ïîõîæå äåëî íå çäåñü êðîåòñÿ.

> Êàêóþ áþäæåòíóþ íå äîðîæå 5 òûñ. ðóáëåé ìîæåòå ïîñîâåòàâàòü çâóêîâóõó ñ 1 ms çàäåðæêîé?

ß ÷åñòíî ãîâîðÿ òàêèõ íå çíàþ, äà è çà÷åì êîãäà äàæå ïðè 8-10 ìñ çàäåðæêà åëå îùóòèìà. Åñëè ó âàñ ïðè òàêèõ çàäåðæêàõ íè÷åãî íå òðåùèò - çíà÷èò ìîæíî âïîëíå êîìôîðòíî ðàáîòàòü.

Çàäåðæêà ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ îïûòíûì ïóòåì, ïðè ÷åì ÷åì ìîùíåå æåëåçî òåì áîëåå ìèíèìàëüíóþ çàäåðæêó ìîæíî âûñòàâèòü. Çàëîã ìèíèìàëüíûõ çàäåðæåê ýòî àïïàðàòíîå Àñèî, áûñòðûé ïðîöåññîð, äîñòàòî÷íîå êîëè÷åñòâî îïåðàòèâíîé ïàìÿòè, ëåãêàÿ è íåçàãðóæåííàÿ õëàìîì îïåðàöèîííàÿ ñèñòåìà.
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Òåìà: Re: ABLETON LIVE "A serious program error occurred. Live will shut down after this message box is closed."
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2012 13:09 
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