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Òåìà: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 31.10.2011 14:10 
Ìîñêâà
Ibanez > Boss DS2 > Vox Tonelab SE > Laney HCM30

Çäðàâñòâóéòå!

Ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, êàê äàííàÿ êàðòî÷êà âåäåò ñåáÿ ñ íîóòáóêîì? Íåò ãëþêîâ?

È âîîáùå, â öåëîì, êàêèå ó âàñ êîììåíòàðèè ïî ýòîìó äåâàéñó?
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 31.10.2011 19:38 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


Ó ìåíÿ ôîêóñðàéò ïðî 40, òîæå ñ ôàéðâàåð, ðàáîòàåò ñ íîóòáóêîì íà óðà. Ïî÷åìó èìåííî Ìàêáóê òî íóæåí?
Ãëàâíîå ÷òîá îí áûë, ôàéðâàåð òî :)
Ïðè÷åì, ïðî 40 íå òðåáóåò ïèòàíèÿ ïî Ô è ñïîêîéíî ðàáîòàëà äàæå íà âñòðîåííîì 4-ïèíîâîì ðàçúåìå, ïðàâäà îí ÷åðåç êàêîå-òî âðåìÿ ðàçáîëòàëñÿ. Ñåé÷àñ ïîëüçóþ êîíòðîëëåð ýêñïðåññÊàðä-1394, ïðîáëåì íåò.
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 31.10.2011 23:20 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


Âîò ÿ î òîì è ãîâîðþ, ÷òî íà ÐÑ òîæå ñïîêîéíî ðàáîòàåò, ìàêè òóò íå ïðè ÷åì, è âîîáùå âîêðóã ìàêîâ ñëèøêîì óæ ìíîãî ìèôîâ ;)
Êñòàòè, ñàìûé áîëüøîé ãåìîðîé ñ ïîäêëþ÷åíèåì ó ìåíÿ áûë ãîäà 3 íàçàä, ïðè ïîïûòêå çàêîííåêòèòü ÌàêÁóê Ïðî è Ì-Áîêñ Ïðî2, òîæå ïî ÔÂ. Ýòà ñâÿçêà òàê è íå çàðàáîòàëà íîðìàëüíî (íà ÏèÑè ýòà æå êàðòà ðàáîòàëà íîðìàëüíî) Âîò êàê òî òàê :4:
Ñïðàâåäëèâîñòè ðàäè, ñòîèò ñêàçàòü ÷òî ïðîáëåìà áûëà â ñîâìåñòèìîñòè âåðñèé ÎÑ è ÏðîÒóëç, íî âñå æå... ãåìîð ñòðàøíûé, íåñìîòðÿ íà ïàôîñíûé Ìàê.
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 01.11.2011 00:09 
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Ibanez > Boss DS2 > Vox Tonelab SE > Laney HCM30

À ó ìåíÿ âîò ÷òî òî âðîäå íîðìàëüí-íîðìàëüíî, à ìèíóò ÷åðåç 5 õðèïåíèÿ ñïëîøíûå (êàê áóäòî íà âñþ êîìïîçèöèþ ìåãàäèñòîðøí íàëîæèëè), ïî ãäå-òî ÷åðåç ìèíóòó âñå íàðìîëèçóåòñÿ... ×åðåç íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ îïÿòü òîæå ñàìîå.  ÷åì ìîæåò áûòü äåëà?
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 01.11.2011 00:13 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


Äà â ÷åì óãîäíî.  ÎÑ, â DAW, â äðàéâåðàõ, â øíóðàõ, íåïðàâèëüíîì ðîóòèíãå ñèãíàëà è ò.ä.
Òóò óíèâåðñàëüíîãî îòâåòà áûòü íå ìîæåò. Ìîæåò ó âàñ àíòèâèðóñ ÷åðåç êàæäûå ïÿòü ìèíóò çàïóñêàåò ñêàíèðîâàíèå êîðçèíû, ÿ æ íå çíàþ ;)
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 01.11.2011 00:15 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


http://www.musicforums.ru/musical_soft/browse_thread.php?bn=mfor_musicalsoft&thread=1319747896&replies=46
âîò òóò ïî÷èòàéòå, âðîäå ÷òî òî ïîõîæåå íà âàøè ñèìïòîìû áûëî, âðîäå ÷åëîâåêó óäàëîñü âûëå÷èòü.
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 01.11.2011 02:17 
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Ibanez > Boss DS2 > Vox Tonelab SE > Laney HCM30

Ñïàñèáî îãðîìíîå! Íî ó íåãî íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíÿë ïðîáëåìû áûëà òîëüêî â Ýáýëòîí. À ó ìåíÿ îíà äàæå íå çàïóñêàÿ íèêàêèõ ìóç. ñîôòîâ. Äàæå â îáû÷íîì Âèíîñ Ìåäèàïëååð(
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 01.11.2011 08:07 
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åñëè ÿ ïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë, îí èñïðàâèë ïðîáëåìó ïî ññûëêàì äàííûì åìó. À â ýòèõ ññûëêàõ ðå÷ü èäåò î íàñòðîéêå ÔÂ-ñîåäèíåíèÿ (â ñóòü ïðîáëåìû ÿ íå âíèêàë). Òàê ÷òî õîñò òóò âðîäå íå ïðè ÷åì.
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 03.11.2011 23:40 



ñ êîíòðîëëåðîì Ricoh ê ïðèìåðó íå çàðàáîòàåò. ñìîòðèì ïåðå÷åíü ñîâìåñòèìûõ ÷èïñåòîâ íà focusrite.com è ñâåðÿåì ñ ñîäåðæèìûì êàíäèäàòà íà ïîêóïêó.

ëó÷øèé âàðèàíò, êñòàòè, áó ìàêáóê.
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 05.11.2011 21:28 
Ìîñêâà
Ibanez > Boss DS2 > Vox Tonelab SE > Laney HCM30

÷òî òàêîå êîíðîëåð Ricoh?

È ãäå ýòà ïåðå÷åíü ñîâìåñòèìûõ ÷èïñåòîâ, ÷å òî íàéòè íå ìîãó(
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 06.11.2011 00:12 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


Focusrite IEEE 1394 (FireWire)
Device Compatibility
In many situations users will not experience any problems using their Focusrite FireWire product with
their current setup, however if you are experiencing difficulties with connection and stability, one thing
to take into consideration while troubleshooting is your FireWire bus. Some of the main concerns are
explained in more detail below.
Connecting Multiple FireWire Devices
Most computers will generally be equipped with one FireWire bus. You may have multiple FireWire
ports on your computer, but these are all connected to one physical chip, which controls the bus. The
FireWire chip is limited in the amount of data bandwidth it can handle, so the more FireWire devices
connected to the FireWire bus, the greater chance there is of having more data than can be dealt with.
Whether it is possible to run multiple devices on the same FireWire bus will depend on what other
FireWire devices are connected, and what they are doing. When more data is being streamed than the
FireWire chip can handle, audio dropouts and/or connection instability will be experienced. Under
these circumstances, we would recommend using multiple FireWire buses by installing a PCI/PCIe
card (desktop), or a PCMCIA/ExpressCard (laptop).
FireWire Port Incompatibilities
We have had no reports of incompatibilities between our FireWire devices and the built-in FireWire
ports on any Apple Mac computers. Problems usually stem from either connecting multiple FireWire
devices to the same bus (see above), or from a FireWire port that has physically been damaged in some
way.
However, as there are a wide range of PC manufacturers, a wide range of FireWire hardware is used,
and there are some incompatibilities to be aware of.
Chipset Incompatibilities: The FireWire chip controls all data being streamed to and from the
FireWire port, and certain chips have been known to cause problems with connectivity. We would
recommend using either a Texas Instruments or a VIA FireWire chipset to avoid any such issues.
To check your FireWire chipset:
1 – Navigate to your Device Manager
(Win XP: Start>Control Panel>System>Hardware>Device Manager
Win Vista: Start>Control Panel>System>Device Manager
Win 7: Start>Control Panel>Device Manager)
2 – Locate your “IEEE Bus Host Controllers” tab, and click on the “+” to expand it
The device name is usually in the form **FireWire chipset** 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller.
If you have more than one FireWire bus, you will see more than one entry in this list.
NB: On Windows 7, if using the Windows Legacy FireWire driver this will read 1394 OHCI
Compliant Host Controller (Legacy), and will give no indication of the FireWire chipset.
4-pin FireWire Ports: The problem with the smaller, 4-pin FireWire ports is that the FireWire cables
use the connector shell for the ground connection between the computer and the device. The shell
connection can be easily interrupted if the cable is moved even slightly, causing the FireWire device to
disconnect momentarily from the computer. Although Focusrite FireWire products will work with 4-
pin FireWire ports, if experiencing the problems described above, it could be worth using a FireWire
expansion card with 6-pin FireWire ports.
Web: http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/
Phone: +44 (0) 1494 462246
Before Buying A New FireWire Card
Performance problems can stem from a number of different causes, and can normally be resolved with
simple steps such as increasing buffer sizes, or tweaking the operating system to make it run more
efficiently. There are articles on the Focusrite Answerbase (http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase) that
can be referred to for more information on this.
However, once you have exhausted all other possibilities or after narrowing down the cause of the
problem to the FireWire card, it should be considered as an option to try a different card or controller.
Below is a list of our recommendations, as well as some specific cards that have been used either
successfully or unsuccessfully with our FireWire products.
Recommended IEEE 1394 (FireWire) Chipsets
- Texas Instruments (TSB43AB22 and TSB43AB23)
- VIA (VT6306 and VT6308)
Please note that other chipsets may work with our FireWire devices, however we have seen the best
results with the chipsets detailed above.
Recommended IEEE 1394 (FireWire) PCI/PCIe/PCMCIA/ExpressCard
Manufacturers
- Belkin (http://www.belkin.com/)
- Lacie (http://www.lacie.com)
- SIIG (http://www.siig.com/)
Cards from other manufacturers have been seen to work, providing that they are FireWire 400 only and
use an approved chipset. However, in our experience it is worth paying more for a well-known
manufacturer, as cheaper FireWire cards often result in poor audio performance.
Known Compatible Cards
Here is a list of cards of which we have either tested in house, or have confirmation from customers
and beta testers that they work. Please check with the manufacturer that a card is compatible with
your operating system before purchasing.
Desktop cards
Lindy FireWire Card – 2 Port, PCI Express
http://www.lindy.co.uk/firewire-card-2-port-pciexpress/
51180.html
SIIG FireWire 2-Port PCIe DV
Part #: NN-E20112-S2
http://www.siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=NNE20112-
S2
Web: http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/
Phone: +44 (0) 1494 462246
Lacie FireWire 400 PCI Card Design by Sismo
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=1116
1
StarTech 4 Port PCI 1394a FireWire Adapter Card
StarTech.com ID: PCI1394_4
http://www.startech.com/item/pci1394_4-4-Port-IEEE-
1394-FireWire-PCI-Card-with-Digital-Video-Editing-
Kit.aspx
Laptop cards
SIIG FireWire 2-Port ExpressCard
Part #: NN-EC2012-S1
http://www.siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=NNEC2012-
S1
Lindy FireWire Card - 2 Port, ExpressCard/34
http://www.lindy.co.uk/firewire-card-2-portexpresscard-
34/51500.html
Please note, we have seen problems with this card on
PC laptops, and would only recommend using this
card on a Mac.
Reported Compatible Cards
Desktop Cards
ADS Technologies PYRO PCI 64R2 FireWire-400
Host Card
Mfr # API-315
No image available
Web: http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/
Phone: +44 (0) 1494 462246
Laptop Cards
Rain Recording FireWire PCI Express Notebook
Card
http://www.rainrecording.com/1-877-MIXRAIN/
store/product.php?productid=16242&cat=289
This card is being included in a hardware bundle by
a US dealer, however it has not been tested by
Focusrite.
Known Incompatibilities
- Most FireWire 400/800 and FireWire/USB “Combo Cards”
We have seen undesirable behaviour with “Combo Cards”, and as such recommend using
cards with only FireWire 400 ports.
- Motherboards using NVIDIA nForce4 chipsets
It has been well documented (for example here:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep05/articles/pcnotes.htm) that the above chipset can
cause very poor audio performance, especially when connecting via the computer’s built-in
FireWire port. Installing a FireWire PCIe card can yield improvements, but won’t completely
eliminate the problem.
- Ultra ULT31342 ExpressCard Firewire Kron chipset Texas Instruments (with Pro 40/24/56, possibly
not with the older Saffire units).
- 3-Port PCI Firewire 800 1394b 32bit card
http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/CONTFIRE01.html?id=hWJYjkhV
Possible unconfirmed incompatibilities to be aware of
- FireWire controllers with JMicron chipsets
- LogiLink Express Card 2x1394A Model Number: PC0036A
- SYBA (SD-EXPC34-2F) - 2x 1394a FireWire 34mm PCMCIA ExpressCard, TI Chipset
- Belkin F5U513v PCMCIA 3x 1394a
- Syba Firewire 1394A/B Pci 3PORT Add Ext. 2X1394B+1X1394A 32BIT Ti (Texas Instruments
Chipset)
NB: This list is constantly being updated.
FireWire ‘Hot-Plugging’ Safety
It is possible for any FireWire device to be damaged by ‘hot plugging’ the device (plugging it in when
the computer is on). All Focusrite FireWire devices adhere to the IEEE1394 (FireWire) standard,
however it may be the case that the FireWire port on your computer motherboard or FireWire card does
not.
Connection and disconnection from a FireWire port that does not adhere to the IEEE1394 standard may
result in permanent damage to both the device and your computer. To help prevent damage, it is
Web: http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/
Phone: +44 (0) 1494 462246
recommended that in all cases you follow the instructions below when connecting and disconnecting
FireWire devices:
When connecting your unit(s)
Ensure that the Computer is Turned OFF
Ensure that the Saffire is Turned OFF
Connect your Saffire
Turn ON your Saffire
Turn ON your Computer
Turn ON your Monitor Speakers
When disconnecting your unit(s)
Shutdown Saffire Mix Control
Turn OFF your Monitor Speakers
Turn OFF your Saffire
Disconnect your Saffire
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 06.11.2011 00:13 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


Åñëè áîëåå ñæàòî, êàñàåìî òîëüêî Ô ÷èïîâ òî -

Recommended IEEE 1394 (FireWire) Chipsets
- Texas Instruments (TSB43AB22 and TSB43AB23)
- VIA (VT6306 and VT6308)
Please note that other chipsets may work with our FireWire devices, however we have seen the best
results with the chipsets detailed above.
Recommended IEEE 1394 (FireWire) PCI/PCIe/PCMCIA/ExpressCard
Manufacturers
- Belkin (http://www.belkin.com/)
- Lacie (http://www.lacie.com)
- SIIG (http://www.siig.com/)
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 07.11.2011 03:21 



>÷òî òàêîå êîíðîëåð Ricoh?

ãàäîñòü ìóëüòèìèäÿøíàÿ :114:
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Òåìà: Re: FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 14 FIREWIRE
Âðåìÿ: 13.01.2012 17:55 

ãèòàðà

Êóïèë íåäàâíî êàðòó Focusrite Saffire pro 14 è êîíòðîëëåð ê íåé IEEE1394 PCI, Texas Instruments chip TSB43AB23. Ðàáîòàþ íà ÏÊ Windows 7 x64 áèò. Ïðîáëåìà ñëåäóþùàÿ: ïðè âîñïðîèçâåäåíèè òðåêà â ëþáîé DAW âîçíèêàþò ïàóçû â çâóêå, çàèêàíèÿ. Áûâàåò íàæìåøü âîñïðîèçâåäåíèå è æäåøü ñåêóíäû 1-5 ïîòîì òîëüêî çâóê ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ. Ïîäêëþ÷àë ýòîò êîíòðîëëåð ñ êàðòîé ê äðóãîìó ÏÊ ñ ÎÑ Windows XP 32 - òàì âñ¸ íîðìàëüíî ñî çâóêîì âðîäå, íå äîëãî òåñòèë.

Ïîìîãèòå ðàçîáðàòüñÿ â ÷¸ì ïðîáëåìà, ëèáî ñ æåëåçîì ìîèì ÷òî-òî, ëèáî ñ äðàâàìè êîíòðîëëåðà, ëèáî ñ ñàìèì êîíòðîëëåðîì. Ïîòîìó êàê â èíñòðóêöèè êîíòðîëëåðà ñðåäè ïîääåðæèâàåìûõ ÎÑ íåáûëî ñåì¸ðêè, õîòÿ ïðè ïîäêëþ÷åíèè êîíòðîëëåðà îí ñðàçó îáíàðóæèëñÿ íà ñåìåðêå è äðàâà àâòîìàòîì óñòàíîâèëèñü. À äðàâà íà ñåìåðêó íàéòè íå ìîãó äëÿ ñâîåãî êîíòðîëëåðà, ìíîãî ñòðàíè÷åê, òî âèðóñû, òî õðåíü êàêàÿ òî.

äðàâà äëÿ êîíòðîëëåðà ñòîÿò Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller

Íåóæåëè ïðèä¸òñÿ íà XP ñíîâà ïåðåõîäèòü?
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!