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Òåìà: ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè ê îðãàííîìó ìîäóëþ VK- 8m
Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2008 16:24 



â èíñòðóêöèè ê îðãàííîìó ìîäóëþ- Roland VK-8m óêàçàíî, ÷òî ê íåìó ñëåäóåò ïðèìåíÿòü ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññè roland EV-7 è íàïèñàíî ÷òî äðóãèè ïåäàëè ìîãóò íàâðåäèòü ðàáîòå ìîäóëÿ.Íàñêîëüêî ýòî ñòðîãî?ìîæåò ÿ ìîãó âñ¸ òàêè èñïîëüçîâàòü ïåäàëü Roland EV-5 áåçáîëåçíåííî äëÿ ìîäóëÿ?
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Òåìà: Re: ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè ê îðãàííîìó ìîäóëþ VK- 8m
Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2008 21:27 



ÿ èñïîëüçóþ EV-5 - è íè÷åãî...
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Òåìà: Re: ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè ê îðãàííîìó ìîäóëþ VK- 8m
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2008 02:36 
San Diego, CA
Keyz & Knobz

"Äðóãèå ïåäàëè" - èìååòñÿ ââèäó åñëè òû âîçüìåøü ó ãèòàðèñòà êâàêóøêó èëè åùå êàêóþ-íèòü ôèãíþ è âîòêíåøü â ìîäóëü :)
Ëþáàÿ ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè òèïà R áóäåò ðàáîòàòü.
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Òåìà: Re: ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè ê îðãàííîìó ìîäóëþ VK- 8m
Âðåìÿ: 06.12.2008 23:57 
Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê
Nord Stage

>Ëþáàÿ ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè òèïà R áóäåò ðàáîòàòü.
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À ÷òî çà òèï R ?
Roland EV5 áóäåò ðàáîòàòü. EV7 ïðîñòî äîðîæå â äâà ðàçà ãäå-òî (îíà ñ êàêîãî-òî êðåïêîãî ìåòàëà êàæåòñÿ) - ïîòîìó åå è íàïèñàëè âåðîÿòíî. )) À ìîæåò íóæíî åùå ðàç âíèìàòåëüíî ïåðå÷èòàòü. Îíè îáû÷íî óêàçûâàþò îáå ñâîè ïåäàëè êàæåòñÿ.
Ïåäàëü Yamaha FC7 èëè ñ ïðîòèâîïîëîæíîé ïîëÿðíîñòüþ èëè âîîáùå íå áóäåò ðàáîòàòü ñ Ðîëàíäàìè. Ó íåå ðàñïàéêà äðóãàÿ. Íî îíà ïî÷åìó-òî äåøåâëå (ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå â øòàòàõ).
Åùå åñòü Fatar, Proel, Kurzweil, Korg...
Âîò çíàòü áû íàñêîëüêî ñîâìåñòèìû îíè ñ ðàçíûìè ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿìè...
«Íóæíî ìíîãî âðåìåíè, ÷òîáû èãðàòü òàê, êàê òû ñàì» - Ìàéëç.
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Òåìà: Re: ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè ê îðãàííîìó ìîäóëþ VK- 8m
Âðåìÿ: 07.12.2008 11:12 
San Diego, CA
Keyz & Knobz

Áîëüøèíñòâî ïåäàëåé ýêñïðåñèè - âñåãî äâóõ òèïîâ. R - ýòî ïîòåíöèîìåòð 100êÎì ñ ðàñïàéêîé ñòðåëêè ê êîëüöó TRS ðàçúåìà, è T - òî æå ñàìîå, òîëüêî ñòðåëêà ê êîí÷èêó TRS.
ÅÌÍÈÏ,
R - Yamaha Roland Kurzweil Novation
T - Korg Ensoniq
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Òåìà: Re: ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè ê îðãàííîìó ìîäóëþ VK- 8m
Âðåìÿ: 07.12.2008 15:52 
Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê
Nord Stage

Êàê òîãäà ðàñöåíèâàòü òî, ÷òî ìíå ñêàçàëè, ÷òî Yamaha FC7 äëÿ èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ñ Ðîëàíäîì ïðèäåòñÿ ïåðåïàèâàòü, åñëè è ßìàõà è Ðîëàíä îäíîãî òèïà?
È äàæå Clavia íà ýòî íàìåêàåò:
«Pedals like the Roland EV-5 and control/expression pedals from Proel works well with the Electro. Control pedals from Yamaha have different characteristics and are not suitable for use with the Electro 2, but the Yamaha FC-7 expression footpedal can be modified to work with NE.»
«Íóæíî ìíîãî âðåìåíè, ÷òîáû èãðàòü òàê, êàê òû ñàì» - Ìàéëç.
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Òåìà: Re: ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè ê îðãàííîìó ìîäóëþ VK- 8m
Âðåìÿ: 07.12.2008 16:06 
San Diego, CA
Keyz & Knobz

Êðîìå ðàñïàéêè ìîæåò îòëè÷àòüñÿ êðèâàÿ çàâèñèìîñòè R(x). È ÿ ìîã îøèáèòüñÿ íàñ÷åò ÿìàõè, ó ìåíÿ íåò ïîä ðóêîé ñåé÷àñ âñåõ äàííûõ...
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Òåìà: Re: ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè ê îðãàííîìó ìîäóëþ VK- 8m
Âðåìÿ: 07.12.2008 16:09 
Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê
Nord Stage

Õîðîøî áû óòî÷íèòü ýòî äåëî.
ß ê ñîæàëåíèþ äàæå íå çíàþ, ãäå åñòü òàêèå äàííûå...
À ýòî âàæíî äîëæíî áûòü äëÿ òàêèõ, êàê ÌÛ. ))
Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå òåìà ñòîÿùàÿ è òðåáóþùàÿ îáñóæäåíèÿ!
«Íóæíî ìíîãî âðåìåíè, ÷òîáû èãðàòü òàê, êàê òû ñàì» - Ìàéëç.
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Òåìà: Re: ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè ê îðãàííîìó ìîäóëþ VK- 8m
Âðåìÿ: 09.12.2008 13:21 
Ðÿçàíü
Nord, Moog, DSI

"I can't get it to work as well as the Roland pedal with an M-Audio 88es. It seems the "sweet spot" for volume change is only a few degrees of travel. From 0-30% it's quiet, from 30-50% it's controlling volume, and from 50% up, it's full blast.
When I hooked it up to my Yamaha S80, though, it was a completely different story. Response was smooth, and the "swell" feature worked as advertised. I'm going back to the Roland for a gigging pedal, but I'm keeping the FC7 for my studio setup. My advice is to check it with your keyboard, and play around with the adjustment settings before you toss the packing material."
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/FC7/reviews/
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
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Òåìà: Re: ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè ê îðãàííîìó ìîäóëþ VK- 8m
Âðåìÿ: 17.12.2008 23:43 
íåðåçèíîâñê
Petrof / Roland VR-760 / Edwards STL95 / Rickenbacker 4001 repli

Âîîáùå ïî èäåå õîðîøèå ïåäàëè ýêñïðåññèè êàê è "êâàêóøêè" äîëæíû âûïîëíÿòüñÿ íà îïòîïàðàõ ñ ìåõàíèçìîì ïðåîáðàçîâàíèÿ ïîäîáíûì òîìó ÷òî ïðèìåíÿëñÿ â îïòèêî-ìåõàíè÷åñêèõ ìûøêàõ.

Åñëè ìåæäó R è T òèïàìè íåò ðàçëè÷èÿ â òèïå çàâèñèìîñòè ïðèìåíÿåìîãî ïîòåíöèîìåòðà - òîãäà îäíî â äðóãîå ìîæíî ïåðåäåëàòü çà ïÿòü ìèíóò äàæå íå ëèøàÿñü ãàðàíòèè - ïóò¸ì ïðîñòåéøåãî ïåðåõîäíèêà ,)
Do you realize? This world is totally fugazi!
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!