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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 12.10.2009 09:28 

Vermona PerFOURmer, Roland RS-09, Kurzweil SP4-7, Akai Miniak

>>Íàâåðíî îäíî èç 2õ - ëèáî óãàñàíèå Êóðöâåéëà â öåëîì, ëèáî ïåðåâîä PC3 â ñåãìåíò äîìàøíèõ-ïîëó-ïðîôåñèîíàëüíûõ êëàâèø, îñâîáîæäàÿ ïðè ýòîì ìåñòî ïîä íîâûé ñèíò Ê ñåðèè)
>????
>Ïðîñòî âûïóñòèëè äåø¸âûé ñèíò, ÷òîáû ñðóáèòü áàáëà, êàêîå íàôèã óãàñàíèå, êàêîé ïåðåâîä, âû î ÷¸ì âîîáùå?

Îáÿçàòåëüíî íàäî ïîâû¸ èëè âû î ÷¸ì âîîáùå? Ðàññóæäåíèÿ âñëóõ - âàì ëè íå ïîíÿòü - ëþáèìîå âåäü âàøå çàíÿòèå
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 12.10.2009 09:31 

Vermona PerFOURmer, Roland RS-09, Kurzweil SP4-7, Akai Miniak

>Òàêàÿ-æå ôèãíÿ! Ìàëåíüêèé - òåðïèìî, à âîò äëèííû íèôèãà íå ñêîëüçèò!
>×òî-æ òåïåðü,- ãðÿçüþ çàðîñòè? Ìîæåò åãî ÷åìíèòü íàìàçàòü??
>Åñòü âàðèàíò: íàêëåèâàåì íà âñþ ïîâåðõíîñòü ñëàéäåðà ñêîò÷ è âïåðåä!

Âïðèíöèïå ãëàâíîå ïîïàäàòü ïî öåíòðàëüíîé ÷àñòè (ãäå ñàì ïðîâîëî÷íûé ðåçèñòîð) - òàì ñêîëüêèç âðîäå íîðìàëüíî - ó ìåíÿ êðàÿ òîæ íåîñîáî ñêîëüçêèå óæå (
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 12.10.2009 19:48 

PC3X, G2 Engine, Ti2, TR-Rack, JD-990

>Îáÿçàòåëüíî íàäî ïîâû¸ èëè âû î ÷¸ì âîîáùå? Ðàññóæäåíèÿ âñëóõ - âàì ëè íå ïîíÿòü - ëþáèìîå âåäü âàøå çàíÿòèå
ß î òîì, ÷òî ìíå íåïîíÿòíî âàøå ðàññóæäåíèå âîîáùå.
Âûõîä LE, êàê ìíå âèäèòñÿ - îáû÷íîå ðóòèííîå ñîáûòèå, áàíàëüíîå ðàñøèðåíèå ëèíåéêè â áþäæåòíûé ñåãìåíò. Êàê ýòî ìîæåò èìåòü îòíîøåíèå ê êàêîìó-òî "óãàñàíèþ Êóðöâåéëà" èëè ê ïåðåâîäó PC3 êóäà-òî - ìíå ñîâåðøåííî íåÿñíî, âîò ÿ è ñïðàøèâàþ - âû î ÷¸ì âîîáùå? :)
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 13.10.2009 11:44 

Vermona PerFOURmer, Roland RS-09, Kurzweil SP4-7, Akai Miniak

Megakazbek
ß ïðåäåëüíî ÿñíî âûðàçèë ñâîþ ìûñëü â ýòîé òåìå, "âû î ÷¸ì âîîáùå"?
www.silentcrab.com
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 13.10.2009 18:50 

PC3X, G2 Engine, Ti2, TR-Rack, JD-990

>ß ïðåäåëüíî ÿñíî âûðàçèë ñâîþ ìûñëü â ýòîé òåìå, "âû î ÷¸ì âîîáùå"?
Ðàç ìíå íå ÿñíî, òî ýòî óæå îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî íå "ïðåäåëüíî" :)
Ìíå íåïîíÿòíî, êàê ñâÿçàí âûïóñê LE ñ "óãàñàíèåì Êóðöà" èëè ñ "ïåðåâîä PC3 â ñåãìåíò äîìàøíèõ-ïîëó-ïðîôåñèîíàëüíûõ êëàâèø". Óãàñàíèÿ Êóðöà íå âèäíî íèêàêîãî è â ïîìèíå, PC3 - ñàìûé ïðîäàâàåìûé ïðîäóêò çà âñþ èñòîðèþ êîìïàíèè, à âûïóñê LE - ýòî ðàñøèðåíèå ðûíêà, ò.å. íèêàêîå íå óãàñàíèå, à ñîâñåì íàîáîðîò - äàëüíåéøåå ðàçâèòèå. Ïåðåâîäà PC3 êóäà-ëèáî îïÿòü-òàêè íå íàáëþäàåòñÿ, îí êàê áûë, òàê íèêóäà è íå äåíåòñÿ, à íîâûé âîðêñòåéøåí, êàê â òîì ÷èñëå è Ñîíèêìàòòåðå ïèñàëè, áóäåò åù¸ î÷åíü íåñêîðî.
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 14.10.2009 00:18 
Ìîñêâà
Ýòíè÷åñêèå

>A_WOLF
à êîãäà êîðãîâöû âûïóñòèëè õ50 âû ãîâîðèëè îá óãàñàíèè êîðãà?
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 14.10.2009 03:14 
Ëüâîâ


èìõî, äëÿ ìíîãèõ Êîðã óãàñ ïîñëå Òðèíèòè. Äàëüøå ïîøëî ìûëî.
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 14.10.2009 13:19 

Vermona PerFOURmer, Roland RS-09, Kurzweil SP4-7, Akai Miniak

>>ß ïðåäåëüíî ÿñíî âûðàçèë ñâîþ ìûñëü â ýòîé òåìå, "âû î ÷¸ì âîîáùå"?
>Ðàç ìíå íå ÿñíî, òî ýòî óæå îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî íå "ïðåäåëüíî"
>Ìíå íåïîíÿòíî, êàê ñâÿçàí âûïóñê LE ñ "óãàñàíèåì Êóðöà" èëè ñ "ïåðåâîä PC3 â ñåãìåíò äîìàøíèõ-ïîëó-ïðîôåñèîíàëüíûõ êëàâèø". Óãàñàíèÿ Êóðöà íå âèäíî íèêàêîãî è â ïîìèíå, PC3 - ñàìûé ïðîäàâàåìûé ïðîäóêò çà âñþ èñòîðèþ êîìïàíèè, à âûïóñê LE - ýòî ðàñøèðåíèå ðûíêà, ò.å. íèêàêîå íå óãàñàíèå, à ñîâñåì íàîáîðîò - äàëüíåéøåå ðàçâèòèå....

À ìîæåò âñåæå íàäî âñåãäà íà÷èíàòü êîïàòü ñ ñåáÿ? (ýòî ïî ïîâîäó ÿñíîñòè) Âû æå âñåãäà ïðèíèìàåòå àãðåñèâíóþ ïîçèöèþ åñëè âàì ÷òî òî íåïîíÿòíî èëè íåïîíðàâèëîñü óòâåðæäåíèå ó÷àñòíèêà ôîðóìà - ñ ÷åãî ñîáñòâåííî? Äóìàþ òîëüêî âðåìÿ ïîêàæåò êòî ïðàâ ;)
Ïî ïîâîäó óãàñàíèÿ - èìåëàñü ââèäó òåõíè÷åñêàÿ ñòîðîíà, ïîïûòêè âûæàòü âñå ñîêè è ñðóáèòü äåíåã èç ìîäåëè ñîçäàâàÿ êó÷à êëîíîâ ñ íåçíà÷èòåëüíûìè óëó÷øåíèÿìè - äëÿ ìåíÿ íó íèêàê íå ÿâëÿåòüñÿ ñèíîíèìîì ðàçâèòèÿ êîìïàíèè. Âîò è ÿ, áóäó÷è îïòèìèñòîì :) , ïðåäïîëîæèë âàðèàíò ÷òî ôèðìà ñîáñòâåííî "ñîáèðàåò" äåíüãè íà íîâûå ðàçðàáîòêè-÷òî êîñâåííî è ïîäòâåðæäàåòüñÿ òóìàííûìè äàòàìè âûõîäà íîâûõ ìîäåëåé.


>à êîãäà êîðãîâöû âûïóñòèëè õ50 âû ãîâîðèëè îá óãàñàíèè êîðãà?

Èçâèíèòå, ìåíÿ ýòîò âîïðîñ íåñèëüíî èíòåðåñóåò.. Õîòÿ, à Âû ñàìè òî êàê äóìàåòå?

>èìõî, äëÿ ìíîãèõ Êîðã óãàñ ïîñëå Òðèíèòè. Äàëüøå ïîøëî ìûëî.

Äëÿ êîãî-òî ïîñëå MS-20, äëÿ êîãî-òî ïîñëå DW-8000 èëè Z1 - ýòî óæ êîìó êàê )
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 14.10.2009 23:07 
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Ýòíè÷åñêèå

>Èçâèíèòå, ìåíÿ ýòîò âîïðîñ íåñèëüíî èíòåðåñóåò.. Õîòÿ, à Âû ñàìè òî êàê äóìàåòå?

ß äóìàþ âû ïðîñòî íå ïîíÿëè ÷òî ÿ èìåë â âèäó âîò è âñå :)
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 15.10.2009 09:53 

Vermona PerFOURmer, Roland RS-09, Kurzweil SP4-7, Akai Miniak

>ß äóìàþ âû ïðîñòî íå ïîíÿëè ÷òî ÿ èìåë â âèäó âîò è âñå

Âîçìîæíî, âûðàæàéòåñü ÿñíåå
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 15.10.2009 15:08 

pc3

Íó âîò è íà îôèöèàëüíîì ñàéòå:
http://www.kurzweilmusicsystems.com/Product.php?id=198
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 15.10.2009 15:14 
Ìîñêâà
Moog, Nordlead, Ion, BassStation

>Suggested Retail Price: $2830

×òî-òî íå ñèëüíî äåøåâî
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 15.10.2009 15:20 

pc3

>×òî-òî íå ñèëüíî äåøåâî
Ýòî îíè èñïðàâèòü çàáûëè, íàâåðíîå, êîãäà ñ PC3 êîïèðîâàëè. Òàì òî÷íî òàêàÿ æå öåíà. À òî ïîëó÷èëîñü äîðîæå ÷åì PC361 :-)
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 15.10.2009 15:24 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

>Íó âîò è íà îôèöèàëüíîì ñàéòå:
>http://www.kurzweilmusicsystems.com/Product.php?id=198

Price: $2830?? - ïî ìîåìó îøèáêà! äîëæíî áûòü $1830.
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 15.10.2009 17:27 
Budapest (Hungary)
ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.

Îøèáêà ! Äîëæíî áûòü $830 .
ÁÛ×ÊÎÂ-LIUSI-PROFI-WAU2009 http://s40.radikal.ru/i088/1105/bf/94841287ad6c.jpg
(ñêàç ïðî òî, êàê Áû÷êîâ ðåïåðòóàð ÷óæîé ñåáå ïðèïèñûâàë)
http://forums.vkmonline.com/showthread.php?t=31098&p=429902&viewfull=1#post42990...ll=1#post429902oindex>
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 15.10.2009 17:59 
Ìîñêâà
Moog, Nordlead, Ion, BassStation

Äà, ïîñìîòðåë ñòðàíè÷êó ÏÖ3 - òàì òà æå öåíà. Äåéñòâèòåëüíî çàáûëè èñïðàâèòü.
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 15.10.2009 22:15 
Ìîñêâà
Ýòíè÷åñêèå

Suggested Retail Price: $1495 :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 15.10.2009 22:48 
Ìîñêâà
Moog, Nordlead, Ion, BassStation

>Suggested Retail Price: $1495 :idea2:

Âîò òàê íàìíîãî ëó÷øå :)
À ÷òî, åñëè çâóê êàê â PC3, òî íåïëîõî.
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 16.10.2009 19:06 



Model PC3 > PC3LE
Polyphony 128 > 64
Programs 850 > 1060
Setups 128 > 256 (*v 1.01)
Chains over 600 > 725
FX Units 16 > 10
Master FX Yes (EQ + Compressor) > No
Aux Sends (Program Mode) 2 > 1
Aux Sends (Setup/Song Mode) 2 > 2
Program Edit Full V.A.S.T > Limited to MIDI Parameters
Arpeggiator Setup Mode Only > Arp per Program
Split/Layer Setup Mode Only > Dedicated Button (feature)
Tap Tempo Soft Button (in Master Mode) > Dedicated Button (feature)
Solo Button Yes in Program/Setup Edit > No
Dedicated Transport Buttons Yes > Yes
Zones/Setup 16 > 16
Sequencer Yes, 16 track > Yes, 16 Track
Controller Info Display (Programs) Info List > Real-Time
Controller Info Display (Setups) No > Real-Time
Controls (Switches) 2 > 5 (x2) + 2
Controls (Sliders/Knobs) 9 > 5 (x3)
Pedal Inputs (Switch Pedals) 3 > 2
Pedal Inputs (CC) 2 > 1
Breath Control Input Yes > No
Ribbon Control Input Yes > No
Drum Pads (FSR) No > Yes (8)
Organ Key Trigger No > Yes
Balanced Outputs 2 pair > 1 pair
MIDI In/Out Thru Yes > Yes
MIDI Out/Thru Switch Yes > No
ROM Option Expansion Yes 64 MB, and 128 MB > No
Dedicated Numeric Keypad Entry Yes > No

Categorization Programs Categorized using Bank method > Dedicated Buttons (feature)

Display 240x 64 (angled) > 240x 64; 20% smaller
Digital Outputs: 24-bit, stereo S/PDIF 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, and 192-kHz modes. (externally clockable) > S/PDIF 48KHz (internal clock only)

USB MIDI MIDI over USB, > MIDI over USB,

USB Storage Virtual Drive Storage Host (Thumb Drive)
Storage Media xD Card > Any USB storage device

Storage Mode Full > Simplified (“Save All”)
Dedicated “Save” Button No > Yes
Boot Loader Upgrade EPROM only > USB upgradable
Sound Tower Editor Yes > No

Keyboard Versions 61 Note (361) = Fatar TP 9 > 61 Note (LE 6) = Fatar TP 8
76 Note = Fatar TP 8 > 76 Note (LE 7) = Fatar TP 8
88 Note (X) = Fatar TP40L > 88 Note (LE 8) = Fatar TP40L
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 16.10.2009 19:09 



http://slil.ru/28088092
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 16.10.2009 21:30 



Ò¸òåíüêà â Ñëàìè ñêàçàëà, ÷òî ìîæíî âíîñèòü ïðåäîïëàòó íà LE. ×åðåç ìåñÿö ïðèâåçóò. Î êàê!
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Âðåìÿ: 16.10.2009 22:34 



Õì...
À âû ñ êàêîé ò¸òåíüêîé ãîâîðèëè?
ß ãîâîðèë ñ äÿäåíüêîé, êîòîðûé íàçâàëñÿ áðåíäìåíåäæåðîì.
Îí ñêàçàë, ÷òî òîëüêî â ÿíâàðå ïðèåäóò...
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 17.10.2009 07:11 



Ñ Ìàðèåé Âîðîíèíîé, åñëè ýòî âàæíî :)
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Òåìà: Re: Óðà, ðèááîíû (PC2Rib) äî íàñ äîåõàëè
Âðåìÿ: 17.10.2009 08:02 



ÇÛ: Ñîáñòâåííî, íèêàêîé ðàçíèöû íåò, ïðèäóò îíè â äåêàáðå, ÿíâàðå èëè àïðåëå... :)
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!