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Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2010 01:26 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
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Âñåì ïðèâåò.
Ïîÿâèëàñü íåîáõîäèìîñòü ïðèîáðåñòè äîìîé MIDI êëàâèàòóðó, â ðàáîòå ñ êëàâèøíûìè èíñòðóìåíòàìè ÿ ïîëíûé íîëü, íî âñ¸ òàêè õîòåëîñü áû êóïèòü ïðèëè÷íûé èíñòðóìåíò, ÷òî ïîñîâåòóåòå âûáðàòü? Èíòåðåñóþò êëàâèàòóðàì â îñíîâíîì ìàêñèìàëüíî ïðèáëèæåííûå ê êëàâèàòóðàì ðåàëüíûõ ôî-íî.

Áþäæåò äî 15k.
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àõ äà, íåîáõîäèìî ìèíèìóì 5 îêòàâ
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êëàâèøíûå äîôèãà âñÿêèõ

íàäî Ôàêíóòü ýòè ìèäè-êëàâû....

ïî ñàáó:íå øèáêî øàðþ â ðîÿëüíûõ ìèäè-êëàâàõ ,íî ÿá ïîñîâåòîâàë êàêîå öèôðîôîíî....ìîæåò Êàñèî ñåðèè CDP ,ðåàëüíî ìíîãî êëàâèø 88 è ìåõàíèêà ïèàíèííàÿ +âøèòûå çâó÷êè + ìèäè....ìîæíî íàéòè â Âàøó ñóììó...
èáî ìèäè-êëàâû ñ òàêèìè ïðè÷åíäàëàìè ëèáî äîðîãè èëè ïîëíàÿ êàêàëèíà..
èìõî êàíå÷íà...=)
Prophet 6 -÷óòü ñëîìàí íî ïðîäà¸òñÿ çà äîðîãî
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Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2010 19:40 
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>íàäî Ôàêíóòü ýòè ìèäè-êëàâû

Çàéìèòåñü, ÿ ïðèêðåïëþ òåìó êâåðõó. Ïî âîçìîæíîñòè â ÷åì-òî ïîìîãó.

>ìàêñèìàëüíî ïðèáëèæåííûå ê êëàâèàòóðàì ðåàëüíûõ ôî-íî.
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>Áþäæåò äî 15k.

Íåñîâìåñòèìûå òðåáîâàíèÿ (äëÿ íîâûõ).
Èç áó ñìîòðèòå Fatar, æåëàòåëüíî ñ ïðîãðåññèâíîé ìîëîòî÷êîâîé êëàâèàòóðîé.
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü MIDI êëàâó
Âðåìÿ: 02.12.2010 00:05 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
âèëû

äà íîâàÿ è íå îáÿçàòåëüíî.
Fatar - îêåé!
åù¸ áóäóò ïðåäëîæåíèÿ?
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü MIDI êëàâó
Âðåìÿ: 02.12.2010 00:28 
Ìîñêâà
Ýòíè÷åñêèå

â ïëàíå ìåõàíèêè ôàòàð-ñàìîå ëó÷øåå, ÷òî âû ñåáå ìîæåòå ïîçâîëèòü.
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü MIDI êëàâó
Âðåìÿ: 02.12.2010 22:18 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
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ìíå ïîíðàâèëàñü âåðñèÿ VMK-161 êàê äóìàåòå ñòîÿùàÿ âåùü?
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Âðåìÿ: 02.12.2010 23:51 
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Ýòíè÷åñêèå

>ìíå ïîíðàâèëàñü âåðñèÿ VMK-161 êàê äóìàåòå ñòîÿùàÿ âåùü?

Ìåõàíèêà õîðîøàÿ. Ïðàâäà âàì 61 êëàâèøè õâàòèò?
Êîíòðîëëåðû îòñòîé. Íó êàê è íà âñåõ ôàòàðàõ.
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü MIDI êëàâó
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2010 19:18 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
âèëû

äà ÿ äóìàþ âïîëíå õâàòèò ïÿòè îêòàâ.
íàñêîëüêî êîíòðîëëåðû øëàê?
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü MIDI êëàâó
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2010 19:44 
Ìîñêâà
Ýòíè÷åñêèå

>íàñêîëüêî êîíòðîëëåðû øëàê?

Òóïÿò êàãáå ìàëîñòü.
À âàì íóæíû êîíòðîëëåðû? Âû õîòü çíàåòå ÷òî ýòî è çà÷åì? òîëüêî ÷åñòíî!
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü MIDI êëàâó
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2010 21:20 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
âèëû

êîíå÷íî îñíîâíûì àêöåíòîì ïðè âûáîðå êëàâèàòóðû ÿâëÿåòñÿ êà÷åñòâî ìåõàíèêè. íî âñ¸æå äîïîëíèòåëüíûå ôóíêöèè òîæå áûâàþò ÷àñòåíüêî ïîëåçíûìè. îñîáåííî êîë¸ñà è êíîïêè play/stop/rec.

êàêîé åù¸ âîïðîñ, ÷èòàë íà êàêîì òî èç ôîðóìîâ , ÷òî ïðîèçâîäèòåëåé ìåõàíèêè âñåãî íåñêîëüêî , âîò ïðîñòî ðàäè ëþáîïûòñòâà èíòåðåñíî êòî èñïîëüçóåò ìåõàíèêó fatar.
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Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2010 21:28 
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Kurzweil
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Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2010 21:50 
Ìîñêâà
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>âîò ïðîñòî ðàäè ëþáîïûòñòâà èíòåðåñíî êòî èñïîëüçóåò ìåõàíèêó fatar.
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îé, äà ìíîãî êòî, íå òîëüêî êóðöâåéë. ó êîðãîâ åìíèï òîæå ôàòàðîâñêèå êëàâû.
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü MIDI êëàâó
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2010 22:13 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
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à â ÷¸ì â îñíîâíîì ïðîáëåìà ñ êîíòðîëëåðàìè , ÷òî òàì ñîáñòâåííî íå òàê? (ìîæåò ýòî êàê - òî ëå÷èòñÿ?)
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü MIDI êëàâó
Âðåìÿ: 05.12.2010 05:03 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
âèëû

à ìîæåò âçÿòü NOVATION ÿ ñìîòðþ íà íèõ êàê ðàç ñòàâÿò ìåõàíèêó Fatar , ïî äåíüãàì âðîäå òîæå ñàìîå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ

http://cgi.ebay.com/NOVATION-61SL-MKII-61SLMKII-MIDI-CONTROLLER-KEYBOARD-/370455359878?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56...=item5640dc3186

Êàê äóìàåòå?

èëè AKAI?
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Âðåìÿ: 05.12.2010 15:12 
Ìîñêâà
Ýòíè÷åñêèå

>à â ÷¸ì â îñíîâíîì ïðîáëåìà ñ êîíòðîëëåðàìè , ÷òî òàì ñîáñòâåííî íå òàê? (ìîæåò ýòî êàê - òî ëå÷èòñÿ?)

ìåäëåííî ðàáîòàþò.
ëå÷èòñÿ ïîêóïêîé äðóãîé êëàâû :)

>à ìîæåò âçÿòü NOVATION
Î÷ õîðîøèé âûáîð.
Ïðîäàë áû âàì X-station äà æàëü äàëåêîâàòî ÿ îò ïèòåðà.

>èëè AKAI?
íó åñëè ïî äåíüãàì ïîòÿíåòå-òî ìîæíî.
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Âðåìÿ: 05.12.2010 17:52 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
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Samu_Ray, ÷òî-òî ÿ íå ìîãó íàéòè êàêóþ èìåííî ìîäåëü ìåõàíèêè ñòàâÿò íà MKII.

Êàê Íîâåéøí ïî îùóùåíèÿì îò èãðû?

AKAI ïîëó÷àåòñÿ äàæå äåøåâëå ÷åì Fatar âîò íàïðèìåð ëîò ñ èáåé
http://cgi.ebay.com/Akai-MPK88-Hammer-Action-USB-Midi-Keyboard-MPK-88-NEW-/310256195775?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item483cb...=item483cb5d8bf

590$ + äîñòàâêà íî ýòî ñ ó÷¸òîì òîãî ÷òî Àêàé 88ìè êëàâèøíûé à Ôàòàð
èëè Íîâåéøí âñåãî 61. î÷åíü èíòåðåñóþò îùóùåíèÿ îò èãðû, âðîäå âåçäå ïèøóò hammer action keyboard

http://cgi.ebay.com/Novation-Remote-61SL-MK2-WARRANTY-MIDI-61-SL-Keyboard-/360318497576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5...53e4a7f328#shId

âîò ýòîò Íîâåøí îáîä¸òñÿ â 610 â Ðàøêå. Íî òóò ïî îïèñàíèþ êëàâèàòóðû íàø¸ë òîëüêî ýòîò ïîñò.

Velocity-sensitive, semi-weighted action keyboard from Fatar, with assignable after-touch. Novation deliver the feeling of playing an instrument, rather than just a computer peripheral.

 ïðèíöèïå ÿ ïîòÿíó ïî äåíüãàì êàê AKAIòàê è Fatar èëè NOVATION, â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå õî÷åòñÿ êóïèòü õîðîøèé èíñòðóìåíò , òåì áîëåå ÷òî ÿ íå òîðîïëþñü ñ ïîêóïêîé, åñòü âðåìÿ ïîäêîïèòü òûù¸íêó äðóãóþ.
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Ëüâîâ


Óêàçàííûé ÀÊÀÈ âûéäåò äîñòàòî÷íî äîðîãèì â äîñòàâêå, ïîñêîëüêó èìååò îãðîìíûå ãàáàðèòû è âåñ áîëåå 30 êã.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/NOVATION-REMOTE-61SL-MIDI-CONTROLLER-MINT-BOX-/170573281517?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item27b6f5b8ed
http://cgi.ebay.com/Akai-MPK61-Keyboard-MIDI-USB-Controller-61-key-NEW-/180590295745?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item2a0c053a...=item2a0c053ac1
http://cgi.ebay.com/A-37-Roland-Midi-Controller-Piano-Keyboard-76-note-/180596465077?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0c...=item2a0c635db5
http://cgi.ebay.com/Edirol-PCR-800-USB-MIDI-Keyboard-Controller-/400178230259?pt=DJ_Gear_Lighting&hash=item5d2c7b33f3
âîò ïîäåøåâëå âàðèàíòû
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Âðåìÿ: 05.12.2010 19:27 
Ìîñêâà
Ýòíè÷åñêèå

>Êàê Íîâåéøí ïî îùóùåíèÿì îò è
Ìåí ëè÷íî íðàâèòñÿ íî ýòî ñóãóáî èíäèâèäóàëüíî, ïîêà ñàì íå ïîïðîáóåøü-íå óçíàåøü.

>âîò ýòîò Íîâåøí îáîä¸òñÿ â 610 â Ðàøêå. Íî òóò ïî îïèñàíèþ êëàâèàòóðû íàø¸ë òîëüêî ýòîò ïîñò.
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>Velocity-sensitive, semi-weighted action keyboard from Fatar, with assignable after-touch. Novation deliver the feeling of playing an instrument, rather than just a computer peripheral.

Íó à êàêîå åùå âàì îïèñàíèå íóæíî? Ïîëóâçâåøåííàÿ êëàâèàòóðà ñ àôòåðòà÷åì, âñå îñòàëüíîå íàçûâàåòñÿ "èíäèâèäóàëüíûå îùóùåíèÿ îò èãðû".
>Óêàçàííûé ÀÊÀÈ âûéäåò äîñòàòî÷íî äîðîãèì â äîñòàâêå, ïîñêîëüêó èìååò îãðîìíûå ãàáàðèòû è âåñ áîëåå 30 êã.
Ïëþñóåì ñþäà âåðîÿòíîñòü íåáðåæíîãî îáðàùåíèÿ ñ íèì â ïðîöåññå äîñòàâêè è êàê ñëåäñòâèå âåðîÿòíîñòü ïîëó÷èòü âìåñòî èíñòðóìåíòà ãðóäó õëàìà.
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