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Òåìà: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 08:03 
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êëàâèøè

Ïîïóëÿðíûå íàñòðîéêè Hammond Drawbars - êà÷àéòå ôàéë B3 Presets.xls ñ http://www.norduserforum.com/nord-stage-general-discussion-board-f3/drawbar-settings-suggestion--t562.html#p1896
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 16:34 
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êëàâèøè

Ïðÿìàÿ ññûëêà http://www.norduserforum.com/download/file.php?id=293&sid=30a93d77308663f610abeaf5799147cc
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 16:41 
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NORD STAGE 2 HA76, Korg microSTATION

:199:
:199: Çàøèáàéçåð! :199: :199:
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 16:49 
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êëàâèøè

Ðåøèë äîáàâèòü ïàðó èçîáðàæåíèé è íåáîëüøîå ïîÿñíåíèå. Òàê, íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé. Íàâåðíÿêà íå âñå â êóðñå, ÷òî òàêîå Drawbar. Ïðî îðãàí Hammond B3 (Íó èëè Ñ3 è À100), íàâåðíÿêà, ìíîãèå ñëûøàëè (Äæîí Ëîðä, Äæèììè Ñìèò íà òàêèõ èãðàëè).

Çâóê îðãàíà ñêëàäûâàåòñÿ èç íåñêîëüêèõ ãàðìîíèê, ãðîìêîñòü êîòîðûõ ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ ñïåöèàëüíûìè ôåéäåðàìè (ðåãèñòðàìè). Ýòè ðåãèñòðû íàçûâàþòñÿ Drawbars. Èõ âñåãî 9 íà êàæäûé ïðåñåò.

16' 1 octave below fundamental
5 1/3' a fifth above fundamental
8' fundamental
4' 1 octave above fundamental
2 2/3' 1 octave and a fifth above fundamental
2' 2 octaves above fundamental
1 3/5' 2 octaves and a major third above fundamental
1 1/3' 2 octaves and a fifth above fundamental
1' 3 octaves above fundamental

Òî êàê îðãàíèñò âëàäååò óïðàâëåíèåì ýòèìè ðåãèñòðàìè â öåëîì ôîðìèðóåò çâóê è ñòèëü çâó÷àíèÿ îðãàíà.

 íåêîòîðûõ ñîâðåìåííûõ èíñòðóìåíòàõ (Kurzweil PC2, PC3, SP4. Clavia Nord Electro, Stage) âñòðîåíà öèôðîâàÿ ìîäåëü îðãàíà Hammond B3. Åñòü è ñïåöèàëèçèðîâàííûå êëîíû îò Hammond, Clavia, Korg, Viscount, Oberheim, Voce.
200pxhammond_c2_manuals_supernatural.jpg
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 16:56 
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ÄÀ Â ÊÓÐÑÅ Â ÊÓÐÑÅ!!!!
ÑÏÀÑÈÁÎ!!!! :199:
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 16:57 
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êëàâèøè

ðàä, ÷òî ïðèãîäèëîñü :)
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 19:50 
Ìîñêâà
Ýòíè÷åñêèå

Äî êó÷è: ó êîëüöîâà íà ñàéòå åãî åñòü òîæå ôàéë ñ êó÷åé íàñòðîåê äëÿ õàììîíäà
koltsov.biz åñëè íå îøèáàþñü.
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 10:35 



Êòî-íèáóäü ìîæåò ïîäåëèòüñÿ ïðåäñòàâëåííûì âûøå ôàéëîì, à òî ó ìåíÿ ïî÷åìó-òî îí ïóñòûì îòêðûâàåòñÿ
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 11:18 
ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ
õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð

>Çâóê îðãàíà ñêëàäûâàåòñÿ èç íåñêîëüêèõ ãàðìîíèê, ãðîìêîñòü êîòîðûõ ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ ñïåöèàëüíûìè ôåéäåðàìè (ðåãèñòðàìè). Ýòè ðåãèñòðû íàçûâàþòñÿ Drawbars. Èõ âñåãî 9 íà êàæäûé ïðåñåò.
ó÷åíüå - ñâåò, à íåó÷åíüå - êóëüòïðîñâåò :onotole:
>Êòî-íèáóäü ìîæåò ïîäåëèòüñÿ ïðåäñòàâëåííûì âûøå ôàéëîì, à òî ó ìåíÿ ïî÷åìó-òî îí ïóñòûì îòêðûâàåòñÿ

grv, â ÷åì îòêðûâàåøü? â õàììîíäå? :-)
" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 12:11 

Kurzweil PC361

ÿ áû íå óïèðàëñÿ îñîáî â ýòè øàáëîííûå ïðåñåòû. è âîò ïî÷åìó

1) åñëè ãîâîðèòü îá clonewheel îðãàíàõ òî äàæå íà îäèíàêîâîì ïðåñåòå îíè áóäóò ïî ðàçíîìó çâó÷àòü. è ñ ðàçíîé àêóñòèêîé ïî ðàçíîìó. è íàâåðíîå äàâà îäèíàêîâûõ õàììîíäà áóäóò çâó÷àòü ïî ðàçíîìó â ñèëó ìèëëèîíà ïðè÷èí (ðàññòðîåííûå ãåíåðàòîðû è òä)

2) â ìèêñå ñ ãðóïïîé äàííûé ïðåñåò ìîæåò "íå çâó÷àòü" èç-çà òîãî ÷òî òîí îðãàíà çàáèâàåòñÿ ãèòàðîé è áàñîì, è ïðèõîäèòñÿ ïîäíèìàòü íèæíèå ãàðìîíèêè, è ýòî áóäåò óæå ñîâñåì äðóãîé ïðåñåò.

ó ìåíÿ äâå êëàâèøè ñ äðîóáàðàìè, è äëÿ îäíîé è òîé æå ïåñíè ÿ èñïîëüçóþ òàì è ñÿì ðàçíûå íàñòðîéêè
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 12:25 

Kurzweil PC361

åùå èíòåðåñíàÿ îñîáåííîñòü - çà ñ÷åò òîãî ÷òî íåêîòîðûå äðîóáàðû ãåíåðèðóþò òîí îòëè÷àþùèéñÿ íà îêòàâó (16', 8' , 4'),
ìîæíî ïîäîáðàòü êîìáèíàöèè ÿâëÿþùèåñÿ òðàíñïîíèðîâàííûìè íà îêòàâó îòíîñèòåëüíî äðóã äðóãà , ñ (ïî÷òè) òåì æå ñàìûì òåìáðîì
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 12:31 



À ñ ïåðåãðóæåííîé ãèòàðîé, êàêèå ñðåäíèå íàñòðîéêè ïðåäïî÷òèòåëüíåé? ×òîá òîí íå "çàáèâàëñÿ" ãèòàðîé
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 12:45 

Kurzweil PC361

ÿ îáû÷íî íà÷èíàþ ñ ÷åãî-òî âðîäå 6886 èëè 8886 à ïîòîì åñëè îðãàí ïëîõî ñëûøåí â ìèêñå ñ ãèòàðîé, òî ïîäíèìàþ íèæíèå ãàðìîíèêè è ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ÷òî-íèòü âðîäå 88851430. íàèçóñòü íå çàïîìèíàþ, ïîäêðó÷èâàþ íà ñëóõ âî âðåìÿ ñàóíä÷åêà.

íåêîòîðûå îðãàíèñòû ïîñòîÿííî äåëàþò ýòî âî âðåìÿ èãðû, òàêîé ÷èñòî õàììîíäîâñêèé èñïîëíèòåëüñêèé ïðèåì êàê êðåùåíäî ïóòåì îäíîâðåìåííîãî âûâîäà íåñêîëüêèõ äðîóáàðîâ.
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 13:14 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


>ÿ áû íå óïèðàëñÿ îñîáî â ýòè øàáëîííûå ïðåñåòû. è âîò ïî÷åìó

Ïðèñîåäèíÿþñü.  íîòàõ äëÿ Õàììîíä îðãàíà ÷àñòî óêàçûâàþò ðåãèñòðîâêó, ðåäêî îíà áûâàåò ïîëåçíîé. Ìåíÿþ ñàì ïî âêóñó. Çàâèñèò îò àêóñòèêè ïîìåùåíèÿ, îáùåé ãðîìêîñòè(î÷åíü ñèëüíî), íàñòðîåíèÿ. Ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè Õàììîíäà èìååò òîíêîìïåíñèðîâàííóþ õàðàêòåðèñòèêó, ïðè óìåíüøåíèè ãðîìêîñòè áàñû ïî÷òè íå ìåíÿþòñÿ, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî èçìåíÿåòñÿ ñîîòíîøåíèå ãàðìîíèê. Íà ïðåäóñèëèòåëå ÀÎ-28 åñòü ïîòåíöèîìåòð ðåãóëèðîâêè òîíà, óáèðàåò Â×. Êðîìå òîãî çâóê îðãàíà ñèëüíî çàâèñèò îò åãî ñîñòîÿíèÿ è ãîäà âûïóñêà. Íó è íàêîíåö âñå Ëåñëè çâó÷àò ïî-ðàçíîìó, äàæå îäíîé ìîäåëè.
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 13:15 



Âëàä, ñïàñèáî! Îïðîáóé ìåòîä íà ðåïå.

Çëîé õðþø, îòêðûâàþ îïåíîôèñîì, à ó âàñ â ýêñåëå âñå íîðì?
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 16:06 

Kurzweil PC361

îòêðûâàþ â ýêñåëå, ôàéë ïóñòîé
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 18:12 
ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ
õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð

>Çëîé õðþø, îòêðûâàþ îïåíîôèñîì, à ó âàñ â ýêñåëå âñå íîðì?

grv, ó òåáÿ ýêñåëü çâó÷èò áåç ëåñëè? :oooi: ÿ íå êî÷àë :4: ÿ äóìàë íàäî â Â3 îòêðûâàòü Íàòèâå Èíñòðóìåíòñ :4:

>ÿ îáû÷íî íà÷èíàþ ñ ÷åãî-òî âðîäå 6886 èëè 8886
3 êðàéíèå ñëàéäåðà äî êîíöà, îñòàëüíîå - ïî âêóñó :idea2: ãëàâíîå - ïåðêàøí è ëåñëè + äèñòîðøí
" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2013 14:28 



http://www.norduserforum.com/download/file.php?id=3578
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2013 20:52 
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NORD STAGE 2 HA76, Korg microSTATION

ïîëüçóéòåñü íà çäîðîâüå :crazy:
drawbar_settings.jpg
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 00:44 
Ìîñêâà
Kurzo-Strat

petroff140
>http://www.norduserforum.com/download/file.php?id =3578
Ñïàñèáî!
à òî ó ìåíÿ ÷òî -òî òîæå ôàéë íå îòðûâàëñÿ ïîñëå ñêà÷èâàíèÿ.
Àíäðåé
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 10:03 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


Äåòñêèé ñàä! ×åãî ïðîùå òî, ñêà÷àòü äà ïîñòàâèòü NI B4, òàì ñîòíè ïðåñåòîâ è ñðàçó ìîæíî ïîñëóøàòü êàê çâó÷èò.
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 11:25 
ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ
õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð

>>http://www.norduserforum.com/download/file.php?i d =3578
>Ñïàñèáî!
>à òî ó ìåíÿ ÷òî -òî òîæå ôàéë íå îòðûâàëñÿ ïîñëå ñêà÷èâàíèÿ.
ó ìåíÿ îòêðûëñÿ ìàêîâñêèì îôèñîì. Íî ñìûñëà â ýòîé áóìàãå ìàëî. :4:
" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 15:01 
Ìîñêâà
Kurzo-Strat

Fanatic
>Äåòñêèé ñàä! ×åãî ïðîùå òî, ñêà÷àòü äà ïîñòàâèòü NI B4, òàì ñîòíè ïðåñåòîâ è ñðàçó ìîæíî ïîñëóøàòü êàê çâó÷èò.

Ýòî ó ìåíÿ óæå 10 ëåò êàê åñòü è òîæå èñïîëüçóþ .
Òà ÷òî â ìîåì ñëó÷àå ýòî íå "äåñòêîé ñàä", à "ñòàð÷åcêèé ìàðàçì" :)
Èñïîëüçîâàòü êîíå÷íî íàäî ñîáñòâåííûå íàñòðîéêè, â çàâèñèìîñòèò îò çâó÷àíèÿ êîëëåêòèâà è äð. îñîáåííîñòåé.
Íî ïî÷åìó ïðè ýòîì íåëüçÿ ïîñìîòðåòü ÷óæèå ..... äëÿ ìåíÿ çàãàäêà.
Àíäðåé
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 17:45 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


Ìîæíî íà÷àòü ñ ìàòåðèàëîâ ïðåäñòàâëåííûõ íà ñàéòå ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ.
http://hammondorganco.com/support/downloads/
Ìàíóàë äëÿ Hammond New B3 è Hammond organ course ñîäåðæàò ïîäðîáíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ðåãèñòðîâêå Õàììîíä îðãàíà. Êîíå÷íî ýòî ðåïðèíò ðóêîâîäñòâà ñåðåäèíû ïðîøëîãî âåêà, íî äëÿ îáùåãî ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ ïîëåçíî.
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 20:40 
Ìîñêâà
Kurzo-Strat


>Ìîæíî íà÷àòü ñ ìàòåðèàëîâ ïðåäñòàâëåííûõ íà ñàéòå ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ.
>http://hammondorganco.com/support/downloads/
>Ìàíóàë äëÿ Hammond New B3 è Hammond organ course ñîäåðæàò ïîäðîáíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ðåãèñòðîâêå Õàììîíä îðãàíà. Êîíå÷íî ýòî ðåïðèíò ðóêîâîäñòâà ñåðåäèíû ïðîøëîãî âåêà, íî äëÿ îáùåãî ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ ïîëåçíî.



Ñïàñèáî !
Ñêà÷àë èçó÷àþ.
Äåéñòâèòåëüíî, ïî÷åìó-òî ðàíüøå íå ïîëüçîâàëñÿ ñèì ïåðâîèñòî÷íèêîì. :)
Àíäðåé
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 20.08.2013 11:15 
Ìîñêâà
Kurzo-Strat

Ïðîñòî òàê, ìîæåò êòî íå âèäåë: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jKme27M6xU
Àíäðåé
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 20.08.2013 17:21 
Èðêóòñê
Hammond B3

>Ïðîñòî òàê, ìîæåò êòî íå âèäåë: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jKme27M6xU

,........ïîòîìó îí è ñòîèò 10 000 $..........ñòîëüêî çàòðàò è ðàá. ñèëû..........

.......êÀíåØíÀ çàâîä òàêîé íÎí÷å íå ïîñòðîèòü.......íî íííàäà íà 3D ïðèíòåðå ïîïðîáîâàòü.......à âäðóã ïîëó÷èöî..... :)
È ÷òî ýòî òàêîå "èìïðîâèçàöèÿ"? È êòî åå ïðèäóìàë? Íåìöû íàâåðíîå! Âå÷íî îíè ÷òî-íèáóäü ïðèäóìàþò, à íàì, ðóññêèì, ïîòîì îòäóâàéñÿ.
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!