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Òåìà: KORG 01/WFD - ïåðåñòàëà ðàáîòàòü êëàâèøà..
Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 09:26 



Ìóçûêàíòû, ïðèâåò!.
Ìîæåò êòî òî ñòàëêèâàëñÿ - ïåðåñòàëà ðàáîòàòü êëàâèøà Ðå äèåç, ñàìàÿ ëåâàÿ â êëàâèàòóðå.. È åñëè á ñîâñåì ïåðåñòàëà - íàâåðíîå áîëåå ìåíåå ïîíÿòíî.. íî çäåñü - äðóãîå.. Åñëè íàæèìàòü å¸ ìíîãî ðàç ïîñòîÿííî, îíà ìîæåò "ïðîñòðåëèòü".. âàðèàíòû òàêèå - èëè èíîãäà (î÷åíü ðåäêî)ïîÿâèòñÿ çâóê, êîòîðûé äîëæåí áûòü, èëè çâóê ýòîé æå íîòû, íî òîíàëüíîñòüþ âûøå, èíîãäà (÷àùå)- ÷òî òî ïðîèñõîäèò, òàê ÷òî äàæå ïðèòóõàþò ëàìïî÷êè íà ïîäñâåòêå êíîïîê.. ïîñëå ýòîãî âñå êëàâèøè ïåðåñòàþò ðàáîòàòü ïîêà íå âûêëþ÷èøü è ïî íîâîé íå âêëþ÷èøü èíñòðóìåíò.. Åñëè íàæèìàòü îäíîâðåìåííî ñ ýòîé êëàâèøåé äðóãèå, ñèíò ìîæåò íà÷àòü ãëþ÷èòü -íåñêîëüêî íàæàòûõ íîò èãðàþò ïîñòîÿííî, äàæå êîãäà îòïóñòèøü êëàâèøè.. à åñëè â ýòî âðåìÿ íàæèìàòü äðóãèå, çâóêè äîáàâëÿþòñÿ - ýòî ÷àùå âñåãî.. èíîãäà ïðè òàêîé êîìáèíàöèè ñèíò íà÷èíàåò ñàì áåñïîðÿäî÷íî ïåðåêëþ÷àòü ýôôåêòû..
Ïðîáîâàë âîçâðàò ê çàâîäñêèì íàñòðîéêàì - íå ïîìîãëî.. Ïðè âñ¸ì åñëè ýòó êëàâèøó íå òðîãàòü, âñå îñòàëüíûå ðàáîòàþò áåç ïðîáëåì, ñèíòåçàòîð ïîëíîñòüþ ôóíêöèîíàëåí â ëþáûõ ðåæèìàõ..
Êàê äóìàåòå, ÷òî ìîæåò áûòü?
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
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Òåìà: Re: KORG 01/WFD - ïåðåñòàëà ðàáîòàòü êëàâèøà..
Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 11:13 
ãäå-òî íà þãå àñàøàé
Roland FP-10, CME XKey 37, Ibanez TMB100M, ROLI Lightpad Block,

Ïðîáëåìû íà àïïàðàòíîì óðîâíå ñ êîíòàêòàìè. Ðàçâèíòèòü äà ïîñìîòðåòü.
Service manual â ïîìîùü.
Âñå, íàïèñàííîå â ýòîé êíèãå, ìîæåò îêàçàòüñÿ íåïðàâäîé...
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Òåìà: Re: KORG 01/WFD - ïåðåñòàëà ðàáîòàòü êëàâèøà..
Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 11:57 



Service manual - íå êîïàåò òàê ãëóáîêî.. Ðàçâèíòèòü íå ïðîáëåìà.. ñìîòðåòü êóäà?
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
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Òåìà: Re: KORG 01/WFD - ïåðåñòàëà ðàáîòàòü êëàâèøà..
Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 12:18 



ß óæå ñïðàøèâàë â äðóãîé òåìå, ìîæåò çäåñü êòî ïîìîæåò - íå ïîäñêàæåòå ññûëêó ñ ìàíóàëîì íà ìîé KORG 01/WFD â ëþáîì ôîðìàòå êðîìå PDF.? ×òîá ìîæíî áûëî ðåäàêòèðîâàòü è â ïåðåâîä÷èê âñòàâèòü Äîñòàëî óæå ïåðåâîäèòü â äåíü ïî òðè ñòðî÷êè.. Èëè ìîæåò ïðîñòî åñòü ó êîãî..
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 12:39 
Íààðèÿ Èçðàèëü
Yamaha MOXF6 Roland Fantom-06, Roland Aerophone AE-30 Pro

â ëþáîì ôîðìàòå êðîìå PDF.? ×òîá ìîæíî áûëî ðåäàêòèðîâàòü è â ïåðåâîä÷èê âñòàâèòü Äîñòàëî óæå ïåðåâîäèòü â äåíü ïî òðè ñòðî÷êè.. Èëè ìîæåò ïðîñòî åñòü ó êîãî..
Hlor À â ÷¸ì ïðîáëåìà? http://www.pdftoword.ru/
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 12:51 



Ïðîáëåìà â òîì, ÷òî êîíâåðòèðóåò î÷åíü êðèâî, çàõâàòûâàåò íå âñ¸(íàïðèìåð âîîáùå íåëüçÿ çàõâàòèòü ïîäïèñè ïîä êàðòèíêàìè, à òàì âñ¸ îñíîâíîå â òàêîì âèäå), âñ¸ êîíâåðòèðóåìîå ñîðòèðóåò õðåí çíàåò êàê, òàáëèöû ðàçáèâàåò â ñòðî÷êè(çíà÷èòåëüíàÿ ÷àñòü ìàòåðèàëà â âèäå òàáëèö), ñòðî÷êèðàñêèäûâàåò òàê ÷òî òåðÿåòñÿ ñèñòåìà è ñìûñë.. Âîáùåì íåóäîáíî î÷åíü.. Ïðîáîâàë
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
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Òåìà: Re: KORG 01/WFD - ïåðåñòàëà ðàáîòàòü êëàâèøà..
Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 13:22 

«Think Different»

Çà÷åì ñðàçó ðàçáèðàòü?
Ïîãóãëèë:
"External Fixes

Some users have reported fixing the problem by spraying compressed air or perhaps some lubricant between the keys, without opening the 01.

Compressed Air
Compressed air is clean air (or other inert gas) in a can (much like any aerosol spray, but without the solution). It's good for blowing (blasting?) dust and small objects out of tight places. It can be bought at most stores that sell computer or electronic supplies. In my opinion, compressed air can't hurt, but it's unlikely to help unless something fell between the keys and you can physically blow it out.

Spray Lubricants
Two popular lubricants are WD-40 and silicone spray. These are available in hardware stores or departments. Sometimes they can be found in the automotive section. Spraying a lubricant from outside is a sloppy way to get things working, but it may help if some spray happens to seep where it's needed.

WD-40 Risks: You don't know what else the spray may land on inside the 01 and whether or not that could cause problems. WD-40 isn't intended for precision movements like expensive electronic keyboards. I had one user report that WD-40 dissolved the plastic keys on his Roland synth. I've heard no such reports about the 01, but this should be a warning that WD-40 should not be used randomly.

Contact Cleaner
Contact cleaner is a little like alcohol in a spray can. It is a chemical cleaner designed to dissolve corrosion off electrical contacts. Contact cleaner typically does not have any lubricant in it, so it leaves a clean, dry surface. In keyboard mechanisms you want clean, but you don't want dry. The pivot point has surfaces that rub together and grease is needed for smooth operation and reduced mechanical wear. WD-40 is a contact cleaner with an oily lubricant included, but we prefer to avoid WD-40 (see WD-40 Risks) and use grease in the 01. You can find contact cleaner at electronic supply stores like Radio Shack".
Îòñåäà:
http://indra.com/~cliffcan/01keys.htm
Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî
îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..)
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 13:30 



Íàâåðíîå âñ¸æ ëó÷øå ðàçîáðàòü, ÷åì ÂÄ 40 òóäà..)
Íî ÿ íå äóìàþ ÷òî ýòî âäðóã çàãðÿçíèëèñü êîíòàêòû.. ñëèøêîì ðåçêî âñ¸ ïðîèçîøëî.. Ñèíò ïðè èãðå âäðóã ãëþêíóë, çàèãðàëî íå ïðåðûâàÿñü íåñêîëüêî íåïîíÿòíûõ çâóêîâ( âðîäå áû áûëà çàäåéñòâîâàíà â ýòî âðåìÿ ýòà êëàâèøà).. êîãäà âûêëþ÷èë - âêëþ÷èë, ñòàëî âñ¸ òàê êàê íàïèñàë.. Ãäå òî ñ ìåñÿö íàçàä ÿ ìåíÿë íà í¸ì ïîäñâåòêó.. ïðèøëîñü ðàçîáðàòü åãî âåñü.. ìîæåò ÷òî òî ãäå òî íå äîâêëþ÷èë ïðè ñáîðêå?. Êàê ñ÷èòàåòå? Íî äî â÷åðà - âñ¸ ðàáîòàëî íîðìàëüíî
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 13:34 

«Think Different»

Ñêîðåå ÷óòü-÷óòü ñäâèíóëñÿ êîíòàêòíûé ìåõàíèçì...ìîæåò ñæàòûì âîçäóõîì ñáîêó êëàâèøè,èç êîìïüþòåðíîãî áàëëîí÷èêà äóíóòü?
Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî
îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..)
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 13:35 

«Think Different»

Åñëè âîëîñèê ïîïàë,òî ðòîì äóíóòü...
Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî
îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..)
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 13:43 



Ïîïðîáóþ ðàçîáðàòü íàâåðíîå.. Íå ïîìîãàåò äóíóòü.. ÷òî òî òàì ñåðü¸çíåé.. ñåé÷àñ íàæàë íåñêîëüêî ðàç íà êëàâèøó - îòêëþ÷èëèñü âñå äðóãèå.. ïîêà îïÿòü æå íå âûêëþ÷èë ñèíò è íå âêëþ÷èë ñíîâà
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 13:49 
ãäå-òî íà þãå àñàøàé
Roland FP-10, CME XKey 37, Ibanez TMB100M, ROLI Lightpad Block,

Ðàçáèðàé. Âåðíûé ïóòü.
Åñëè ó âàñ ãíîéíûé àáñöåññ (íå äàé áîã êîíå÷íî), âñêðûâàòü ê õèðóðãó ïîéäåòå èëè ìîëèòâû ÷èòàòü áóäåòå? :crazy:
Âñå, íàïèñàííîå â ýòîé êíèãå, ìîæåò îêàçàòüñÿ íåïðàâäîé...
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 14:30 

«Think Different»

>Åñëè ó âàñ ãíîéíûé àáñöåññ (íå äàé áîã êîíå÷íî), âñêðûâàòü ê õèðóðãó ïîéäåòå èëè ìîëèòâû ÷èòàòü áóäåòå?)
))

"Íåäàâíî ïðèîáðåë ñåáå â ìàãàçèíå ìåäòåõíèêà ñêàëüïåëü.
Çà íåáîëüøîå âðåìÿ óæå èçðåçàë êîæàíûé äèâàí,è åäâà íå ïðèðåçàë ñâîþ ñîáàêó,è âîò óæå ïîäóìûâàþ íå ñîâìåñòèòü ëè ìíå ïðèÿòíîå ñ ïîëåçíûì.
À èìåííî — ïîðàáîòàòü êàðäèîõèðóðãîì".. :)

Õëîð íå "õèðóðã"...äà è Âû íå "äèàãíîñòèê".
Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî
îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..)
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 14:35 

«Think Different»

Ïîõîæå íà ñèñòåìíûé ãëþê...
Ïåðåóñòàíîâêà ÎÑ?
Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî
îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..)
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 14:36 



Áûâàþò òàêèå õèðóðãè (íå äàé Áîã êîíå÷íî), êîòîðûå âñêðûâàþò íå òàì ãäå áîëèò, à òàì ãäå äîðîæå âñêðûòèå.. ß ñòàëêèâàëñÿ.. Èíîãäà ìîëèòâà -äåéñòâåííåé..
Íó â èî¸ì ñëó÷àå ÿ è õèðóðã, ÿ è ïàöèåíò ìîæíî ñêàçàòü.. Çíàòü áû åù¸, ÷òî îïïåðèðîâàòü..
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
sam.jpg
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 14:40 



liusi - ìàëî òîãî ÷òî ÿ íå õèðóðã, ÿ åù¸ è íå ïåðåóñòàíîâùèê ÎÑ.. áîëåå òîãî, ÿ íå çíàþ íè êàêèõ ÎÑ, êðîìå òåõ ìåëêèõ æóæàùèõ òâàðåé, íà êîòîðûå ó ìåíÿ àëëåðãèÿ.. Âîçâðàò ê çàâîäñêèì íàñòðîéêàì ÿ äåëàë - íå ïîìîãëî.. Åñëè ÎÑ - ýòî ÷òî òî ãëîáàëüíîå, òî ïî÷åìó ãëþ÷èò òîëüêî îò îäíîé êëàâèøè?
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 14:40 

«Think Different»

Èíîãäà áûâàåò ÷òî êàêàÿ-òî êðàéíàÿ êëàâèøà ñèíòà çàâÿçàíà çàâîäîì íà îáùåêîìàíäíîñòü,íà ðåñåò.
Îò êàïðèç å¸ è ìîæåò áûòü ïîëíîå îòêëþ÷åíèå êëàâû...
Îøèáàþñü?
Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî
îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..)
Àâòîð
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 14:47 



Íåò íàâåðíîå..
Âîáùåì íóæåí âñ¸òàêè ìàíóàë íîðìàëüíûé, êàê ÿ ïîíÿë
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
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Òåìà: Re: KORG 01/WFD - ïåðåñòàëà ðàáîòàòü êëàâèøà..
Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 14:49 

«Think Different»

Ïîìíèòñÿ Âàøà òåìà:
http://www.musicforums.ru/klavishnik/1381479356.html#replies=22
 àíãëèéñêîì ìàíóàëå KORG 01/WFD ñòðàíèöà,ãäå ïðî ðåãóëèðîâêó êàæäîé êëàâèøè...
Òóäà çàëåçòü?
Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî
îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..)
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 14:51 



Çàëåçòü..)
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 21:59 



Çàëåç..( :mog:
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
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Âðåìÿ: 02.11.2013 22:01 
ãäå-òî íà þãå àñàøàé
Roland FP-10, CME XKey 37, Ibanez TMB100M, ROLI Lightpad Block,

>Çàëåç..(
×òî óâèäåë?
Âñå, íàïèñàííîå â ýòîé êíèãå, ìîæåò îêàçàòüñÿ íåïðàâäîé...
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Òåìà: Re: KORG 01/WFD - ïåðåñòàëà ðàáîòàòü êëàâèøà..
Âðåìÿ: 03.11.2013 13:34 



Äà íå.. ÿ òî ïîêà íå òðîãàë íè÷åãî.. ýòî liusi õîòåë çàëåçòü.. Íó è çàëåç êóäà òî..
Íî îíè åñòü îíè.. òû åñòü òû.. ÿ åñòü ÿ
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!