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Òåìà: ñåìïëåðû EMU
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2015 17:16 



ìîæíî ëè ñä-äèñêè ñ ñåìïëàìè îò EMU ñ ÑD-ðîìà ñðàçó ïåðåïèñàòü íà âíóòðåííèé, âíåøíèé HDD, áåç çàãðóçêè â RAM ïàìÿòü ñåìïëåðà.
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Òåìà: Re: ñåìïëåðû EMU
Âðåìÿ: 01.02.2015 01:25 
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Kurzo-Strat

Ïîïóëÿðíàÿ ïðîãðàììà êîíâåðòàöèè ñåìïëîâ ðàçíûõ ôîðìàòîâ CDXtract.
Òàì íàïèñàíî ( ñàì íå ïðîáûâàë) :

They are many different sampler formats that CDXtract can read but one important notion to understand is that these formats can be classified as disc formats (proprietary) and file formats:

1. Disc formats:
Some hardware samplers like the Akai S1000/3000, the Roland S-7xx and the EMU III and IV have their own file system that cannot be read by a PC or a MAC. If you try to open an Akai CD in your Windows explorer, it will be displayed as empty and if you insert it in your Mac you will be asked to format or eject the disk.

Akai S1000/3000: Proprietary disc format with a 2 level directory structure made of partitions and volumes.
Roland S-7XX: Proprietary disc format with a 2 level directory structure made of volumes and performances.
EMU III / IV: Proprietary disc format with a 2 level directory structure made of folders and banks.

2. File formats:
Nowadays a lot of musicians are moving to software samplers, these software samplers use standard files to store their banks, programs and samples. Some of these samplers are working on PC and Mac, they may have a common file formats for both platforms or a different file formats for each platform. The samples can be saved in the program itself (Soundfont, Giga, Reaktor) or in separate files (Halion, Pulsar, EXS24...). The samples are usually encoded in a standard format such as Wav or Aif files.

EMU Soundfont: File format with the extension .sf2, one file is a bank and contains all the programs and the samples.
Akai S5000/6000: File format, separate files for the samples, the programs and the banks (called multi)
MESA: File format for the Akai S3000, separate files for the programs (.s3p) and the samples.
Creamware: Pulsar STSFile format, separate files for the programs and the samples.
NI Reaktor: File format with the extension .map, one file is a program and contain all the samples encoded in float 32 bits.
Digidesign SampleCell: File format, separate files for the programs, the samples and the banks.
Emagic EXS24: File format, separate files for the programs and the samples. No banks.

Tascam GigaSampler / GigaStudio: File format with the extension .gig, one file is a bank and contains all the programs and the samples.
VSampler: File format, the bank and its programs are saved in a single file while the samples can be saved in the same file or separate audio files.
Steinberg Halion: File format, the bank and its programs are saved in a single file and the samples are saved in separate audio files. Moreover a program does not have to be saved in a bank, it can exist by itself in a stand-alone file.
NI Kontakt: File format with the extension .nki, one file is a program and the samples are saved in separate wav files.

3. Mixed formats:


Some hardware samplers use a file system that is very close to the DOS file system but not close enough to be fully compatible. Actually if you try to read one of this disks on your PC with the standard Windows Explorer you won't see any files. Moreover it may freeze or crash your system*. This problem happens with the early versions of the Kurzweil systems and with some MPC disks. However this problem doesn't exist on the Mac where these disks are mounted as standard DOS disks.
Kurzweil: Mixed format, one single file for a bank which includes all its programs and samples.
Akai MPC: Mixed format, separate files for the program and the samples. Samples can be saved as standard .wav files or .snd files.
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Òåìà: Re: ñåìïëåðû EMU
Âðåìÿ: 01.02.2015 01:29 
Ìîñêâà
Kurzo-Strat

À ïî ñåìó :
Åñëè Âû õîòåòå èñïîëüçîâàòü "ñåìïëû EMU" ( íà CDROM) d êîvïüþòåðíîì ñåìïëåðå òî Âû äîëæíû ïåðåêîíâåðòèðîâàòü èõ â íóæíûé Âàì âèä.
Íàïðèìåð â ôîðìàò NI Kontakt
Ïðè ýòîì ìjãóò áûòü íåêèå "ïîòåðè", íî âñå ýòî òåðïÿò èëè èñïîëüçóþò "æåëåçÿêó".. :) :) :)
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Òåìà: Re: ñåìïëåðû EMU
Âðåìÿ: 01.02.2015 10:41 



ïîïîíÿòíåé - ìíå íàäî çíàòü,
èìåÿ âíåøíèé scsi cd-rom ïîäêëþ÷åííûé ê ñåìïëåðó EMU -è âíóòðåííèé scsi HDD óñòàíîâëåííûé â ñåìïëåð. ìîæíî ëè êîïèðîâàòü ñåìïëû ñ cd-áîëâàíêè íà æåñòêèé äèñê ñðàçó, ìèíóÿ èõ çàãðóçêè â RAM ïàìÿòü ñåìïëåðà.
Î ïðîãàõ è êîìïå - ÿ çíàþ, ïîýòîìó â äàííîì âîïðîñå èñêëþ÷àþ èõ.
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Òåìà: Re: ñåìïëåðû EMU
Âðåìÿ: 01.02.2015 13:14 
Ìîñêâà
Kurzo-Strat

Btbureau
>èìåÿ âíåøíèé scsi cd-rom ïîäêëþ÷åííûé ê ñåìïëåðó EMU -è âíóòðåííèé scsi HDD óñòàíîâëåííûé â ñåìïëåð. ìîæíî ëè êîïèðîâàòü ñåìïëû ñ cd-áîëâàíêè íà æåñòêèé äèñê ñðàçó, ìèíóÿ èõ çàãðóçêè â RAM ïàìÿòü ñåìïëåðà.
>Î ïðîãàõ è êîìïå - ÿ çíàþ, ïîýòîìó â äàííîì âîïðîñå èñêëþ÷àþ èõ.

:)
Êîëè âû "çíàåòå" , òî íàâåðíî óæå îñîçíàëè ôðàçó íàïèñàíóþ ðàçðàáîò÷èêàìè CDXtract.
Some hardware samplers like the Akai S1000/3000, the Roland S-7xx and the EMU III and IV have their own file system that cannot be read by a PC or a MAC.

Ò.å åñëè âû âîçìåòå CD-EMU è ïîïûòàåòåñü åãî ïðî÷èòàòü â CD-ROMå êîìïà (âíóòðåíèé èëè âíåøíèé - íå âàæíî), ãäàâíîå - îïðåäåëÿåìîãî ÎÑ êîìïüþòåðà) - òî òàì íè÷åíî íå óâèäèòå ( áåç "ñïåö" ïðîãðàììû, ïðî êîòîðûå Âàì ìçâåñíî) .

SCSI ÑD- ROM EMU ñåïëåðà ïðåäíîçíà÷åí äëÿ ðàáîòû òîëüêî ñ ÎÑ EMU. è "ïðîáðîñ" èíôîðèìàöèþ íà êîìï ìèíóÿ ïàìÿòü EMU íàâðÿä ëè ïîëó÷èòñÿ.


È âîïðîñ , à çà÷åì ýòî Âàì ?
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Òåìà: Re: ñåìïëåðû EMU
Âðåìÿ: 01.02.2015 13:23 
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Kurzo-Strat

Äà.... è åñëè Âû ðåøèòå ïîäñîåäèíèòü ê EMU (øëåéôîì) SCSI-ÑDrom è SCSI-HDD òî ïåðåäà÷à èíôîðìàöèè âñå-ðàâíî ïîéäåò ïîä óïðàâäåíèåì OC EMU ( òóò ïðîñòî ïîñìîòðèòå èíñòðóêöèþ íà ñâîé ñåìïëåð) åñòü ëè òàìâîçìîæíñòü.êîïèðîâàíèÿ èíôîðìàöèè ( ñêîðåå âñåãî - íåò).
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Òåìà: Re: ñåìïëåðû EMU
Âðåìÿ: 02.02.2015 09:44 
Ìîñêâà
PC3, TS-10, K2600RS, E4X, JV-2080, WS-SR

>ïîïîíÿòíåé - ìíå íàäî çíàòü,
>èìåÿ âíåøíèé scsi cd-rom ïîäêëþ÷åííûé ê ñåìïëåðó EMU -è âíóòðåííèé scsi HDD óñòàíîâëåííûé â ñåìïëåð. ìîæíî ëè êîïèðîâàòü ñåìïëû ñ cd-áîëâàíêè íà æåñòêèé äèñê ñðàçó, ìèíóÿ èõ çàãðóçêè â RAM ïàìÿòü ñåìïëåðà.
>Î ïðîãàõ è êîìïå - ÿ çíàþ, ïîýòîìó â äàííîì âîïðîñå èñêëþ÷àþ èõ.
Íåò.
Ó E-mu OS ôóíêöèÿ "Backup" åñòü, íî ñ æ¸ñòêîãî äèñêà - íà äðóãîé ÆÄ èëè ÌÎ,
à ñ CD - òîëüêî ãðóçèòü â ïàìÿòü è ñîõðàíÿòü íà ÆÄ èëè ÌÎ.
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!