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Òåìà: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2016 21:34 
Ìîñêâà
C.M.Schroder

Ïðèâåòñòâóþ óâàæàåìîå ìóç. ñîîáùåñòâî è ïðîøó ñîâåòà ïî òàêîìó âîïðîñó.
Ó ñèíòà íå ðàáîòàåò ðåãóëÿòîð ãðîìêîñòè (master) â midi ðåæèìå.  îáû÷íîì
ðåæèìå âñå ðàáîòàåò, åñòåññíî.
Ïðè ýòîì îòëè÷íî ðàáîòàþò êíîïêè òðàíñïîíèðîâàíèÿ, êîëåñî pitch, èíñòðóìåíò
ðåàãèðóåò íà ñêîðîñòü íàæàòèÿ êëàâèø. Ñîôò ïîëüçóþ - Reaper + Kontakt. Èíñòðóìåíò -
Kurzweil pc3Le7.  user manual ïî ýòîìó âîïðîñó òèøèíà, ÷èòàë ðóññêóþ + àíãë. âåðñèè ðóêîâîäñòâà.
 íàñòðîéêàõ master íå íàøåë íè÷åãî ïîõîæåãî, ãäå ìîæíî íàçíà÷àòü
êîíòðîëëåðàì òå èëè èíûå ôóíêöèè. Åùå êîíå÷íî õîòåëîñü áû ðàçáèòü êëàâó íà
çîíû, â ìèäè ðåæèìå, êîíå÷íî.
Äî ýòîãî áûëà m-audio keystation, òàì ãðîìêîñòü ðàáîòàëà ïî óìîë÷àíèþ.
Ïîèñê ïî ôîðóìó ïîäêèíóë âîò ýòó òåìó
http://www.musicforums.ru/klavishnik/full_1408265219.html#N1408415516
èç êîòîðîé ÿ ïîíÿë, ÷òî ðåøåíèå ïðîáëåìû ÍÅ â íàñòðîéêàõ ñèíòà, à â õîñòå.
Âîò òîëüêî ãäå ýòî çàïðÿòàíî â Kontakt-Reaper?
Ïîäñêàæèòå, êóäà êîïàòü.
Ps. Âïîëíå ðàçäåëÿþ âîçìóùåíèå è ñîâåòû
òèïà èñïîëüçîâàòü èíñòðóìåíò â ñòàíäàðòíîì ðåæèìå, íî óæ áîëüíî íåêîòîðûå
ñýìïëû çàïàëè â äóøó è áåç íèõ êàê òî ñêó÷íî.
Çà âûñòóïëåíèÿ ïîä ôîíîãðàììó íóæíî ïëàòèòü êñåðîêîïèÿìè äåíåã. R.J.Dio
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Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2016 21:56 
ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ
õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð

>Ó ñèíòà íå ðàáîòàåò ðåãóëÿòîð ãðîìêîñòè (master) â midi ðåæèìå.
îí è íå äîëæåí ðàáîòàòü :4:
ìèäè ýòî òîëüêî íàáîð êîìàíä :4:
" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2016 21:57 
ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ
õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð

>http://www.musicforums.ru/klavishnik/full_1408265 219.html#N1408415516
>èç êîòîðîé ÿ ïîíÿë, ÷òî ðåøåíèå ïðîáëåìû ÍÅ â íàñòðîéêàõ ñèíòà, à â õîñòå.
>Âîò òîëüêî ãäå ýòî çàïðÿòàíî â Kontakt-Reaper?
â ìèêøåðå ÄÀÂ
" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2016 21:59 
ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ
õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð

>òèïà èñïîëüçîâàòü èíñòðóìåíò â ñòàíäàðòíîì ðåæèìå,
êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà â êàêîì ðåæèìå? :4: íå âèæó ïðîáëåì. Åñëè îí åñòü, èíñòðóìåíò, âàøå ïðàâî èñïîëüçîâàòü åãî êàê äóøå âçäóìàåòñÿ
" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2016 22:35 
Í-ñê
Keyboards

 îòëè÷èå îò ìèäèêëàâèàòóðû, ó ñèíòà åñòü ñîáñòâåííûå çâóêè. È àóäèîâûõîä, ãðîìêîñòü êîòîðîãî è ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ.
Óïðàâëåíèå æå ìèäèãðîìêîñòüþ, âåðîÿòíî, ìîæíî "ïðèâÿçàòü" ê îäíîìó èç íàçíà÷àåìûõ ðåãóëÿòîðîâ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2016 22:50 

«Think Different»

Ìèäè ïëþñ.ìèíóñ äâîéíàÿ ïåäàëü ãðîìêîñòè íóæíà,è ñïåöèàëüíûé ïîðò íà êëàâèøàõ äëÿ íå¸.
Ó ìåíÿ íà ìèäèêîíòðîëëåðå cavagnolo òàêîé ïîðò äëÿ áëîêà èç âîñüìè ïåäàëåé,íà êîòîðûå ìîæíî íàçíà÷èòü êîíòðîëëåðû,ïî öèôðå óïðàâëÿåìûå.
Óæå íå ïîëüçóþñü,íå óñòðàèâàåò ñêîðîñòü ðåãóëèðîâàíèÿ â óïðàâëåíèè.
Êóïèë äëÿ óïðàâëåíèÿ êîíòðîëëåðàìè ñîôò tc-data äëÿ iPAD
http://www.bitshapesoftware.com/instruments/tc-data/
ñì.âèäåî ñ 30-é ñåêóíäû.
Ñ÷èòàþ ýòîò ñîôò ëó÷øèì äëÿ öèôðîâîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ öèôðîâûìè ñèíòàìè... :super:
Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî
îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..)
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Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2016 23:08 

«Think Different»

Äà è...
äëÿ tc-data íóæíà ôóíêöèÿ bluetooth le
Îíà òîëüêî â ÌÀÑ ìàøèíàõ,âûïóùåííûõ ïîñëå 2011 ãîäà.
Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî
îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..)
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Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2016 20:26 
Ìîñêâà
C.M.Schroder

> îòëè÷èå îò ìèäèêëàâèàòóðû, ó ñèíòà åñòü ñîáñòâåííûå çâóêè. È àóäèîâûõîä, ãðîìêîñòü êîòîðîãî è ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ.
>Óïðàâëåíèå æå ìèäèãðîìêîñòüþ, âåðîÿòíî, ìîæíî "ïðèâÿçàòü" ê îäíîìó èç íàçíà÷àåìûõ ðåãóëÿòîðîâ.

Âû ïðàâû, âîò òîëüêî êàê ýòî ñäåëàòü, ÿ ñõîäó íå ïîíÿë, à ïîòîìó îáðàòèëñÿ â îôô. support. È äîâîëüíî áûñòðî ïîëó÷èë îáñòîÿòåëüíûé îòâåò:
KURZWEIL
Operational Tech Support
Hello Alex,
Thank you for your support of the Kurzweil family of musical instruments and pro audio electronics.
To be clear, the front panel master volume slider is a volume control for the PC3LE's own audio output. If you connect audio cables to the L & R outs (or connect headphones to the headphone out) that volume slider will control the level. Please confirm.
That said, the master volume slider is NOT a programmable MIDI controller. So if ultimately you are wanting to use a control on the LE to control your VI's on your PC you will need to assign a knob, pedal or wheel to the task.
For ex:

1) EDIT your setup, (if starting from scratch start with Setup 128 'Default Setup'
2) press CTRLS
3) using the Chan/Zone buttons, select the zone to edit (upper right hand corner of the display shows current zone and total zone count X/Y - if starting with Setup 128 there will only be one zone initially)
4) select the desired controller as the "Controller" (at the top)
- short cut to select- press and hold ENTER while moving/activating the control in question.

So for example, press and hold ENTER then twist the desired Knob.

5) set 'DestType' to "Ctrl"
6) set 'Dest' to the needed MIDI CC that your soft synth needs to receive to activate whatever paramater you are trying to control - cc7 is Volume for instance.
7) press SAVE when done

Those are the basic steps For details on all the parameters here see the LE v2 manual. pg 7-11 thru 7-13.
Please let me know if you need further assistance.
Best Regards,
--
Jean Robert Bellefeuille
Manager of Technical & Customer Support
Kurzweil Music Systems
M-F 8a-5p PST
(310) 355-8052
support@kurzweil.com
www.kurzweil.com

Ïðîäåëàâ âñå âûøåîïèñàííîå ìíå óäàëîñü íàçíà÷èòü íà ðåãóëÿòîðû ãðîìêîñòü, ïàíàðàìó, à íà êîëåñà - èõ ñòàäàðòíûå ôóíêöèè - pitch è modulation.
Âîçìîæíî, âûøåñêàçàííîå áóäåò ïîëåçíî âëàäåëüöàì Kurzweil, êîòîðûå çàõîòÿò ïîèãðàòü â midi ðåæèìå.
PS. Èíòåðåñíî, îòêóäà ïðèøåë îòâåò, òê ó Kurzweil îôôèñû êàê ìèíèìóì â 3-õ ìåñòàõ(Êîðåÿ, øòàòû, ßïîíèÿ).
Çà âûñòóïëåíèÿ ïîä ôîíîãðàììó íóæíî ïëàòèòü êñåðîêîïèÿìè äåíåã. R.J.Dio
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Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2016 21:11 

Õàðä è ñîôò.

>Èíòåðåñíî, îòêóäà ïðèøåë îòâåò
USA, 19060 S Dominguez Hills Dr
Compton, CA 90220
https://www.google.ru/maps/place/A+N+D+Music+Corpo ration/@33.8561102,-118.232657...50e0bf6!6m1!1e1
Professional musician, arranger, sound engineer, sound producer

https://soundcloud.com/user-931212328
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Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2016 07:28 
Odessa
Tyros 2 Korg M3M

Ìîæåò òàêèå âàðèàíòû?
Èëèhttp://www.doepfer.de/home_e.htm http://www.doepfer.de/pf.htm
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Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2016 08:19 

Õàðä è ñîôò.

>Ìîæåò òàêèå âàðèàíòû?
Ìåæäó ïðî÷èì - êë¸âûé âàðèàíò íåäîðîãîé. Ñàì ïîëüçóþ ïàðî÷êó òàêèõ óæå ëåò 5. Î÷åíü óäîáíû â ðàáîòå. Ñîôò ïîíÿòíûé ëàìåðó, ïðîãðàììèðóåòñÿ ïîä ñâîè öåëè è çàäà÷è ëåãêî. Óäîáíî è â ìîáèëüíîé ðàáîòå ñ áóêîì. Õû. - ß äàæå ê Âèðòóàë ÄèÄæåþ ïðèêðó÷èâàë ïîìíèòñÿ. Íà ìåðîïðèÿòèÿõ ðóëèë, áûëî äåëî.
Professional musician, arranger, sound engineer, sound producer

https://soundcloud.com/user-931212328
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Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2016 21:27 
Odessa
Tyros 2 Korg M3M

Äûê ÿ áåç ñàðêàçìà. Íà ïîëíîì ñåðüåçå, óäîáíûé, åìêèé.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 08.05.2016 23:12 
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midi

>Ó ñèíòà íå ðàáîòàåò ðåãóëÿòîð ãðîìêîñòè (master) â midi ðåæèìå.  îáû÷íîì
>ðåæèìå âñå ðàáîòàåò, åñòåññíî.


ðåãóëÿòîð ãðîìêîñòè ïàò÷åé ñèíòà ê ÃÐÎÌÊÎÑÒÈ ÌÈÄÈ ÍÎÒ íèêàêîãî îòíîøåíèÿ íå èìååò
ó ìèäè ãðîìêîñòü ðåãóëèðóåò ñïåöèàëüíûé êîíòðîë¸ð ïîä íîìåðîì 07
òàêæå íåìíîãî ãðîìêîñòè äîáàâëÿåò â ìèäè BREATH (äóõîâîé) êîíòðîë¸ð ïîä íîìåðîì 02

íå çíàþ ìîæíî ëè â âàøåì ñèíòå ñäåëàòü êàêóþ-íèáóäü êðóòèëêó ÌÈÄÈÊÎÍÒÐÎ˨ÐÎÌ 07
íî åñòü âíåøíèå ìèäèêîíòðîë¸ðû-ôèëüòðû, êîòîðûå ïðîïóñêàþò ÷åðåç ñåáÿ ìèäè-ïîòîê, èçìåíÿÿ åãî ñâîèìè êîíòðîë¸ðàìè (òàì åñòü è VOLUME CC=07),
òàê-âîò ìîæíî áûëî â âàøåì ñèíòå îòêëþ÷èòü LOCAL CONTROL (óïðàâëåíèå çâóêîì ñâîèìè ìèäè êîìàíäàìè)
âçÿòü ìèäè-ïîòîê ñ MIDI OUT âàøåãî ñèíòà è ÷åðåç ýòîò ìèäèôèëüòð ïîäàòü åãî îáðàòíî â âàø ñèíò íà MIDI IN
òàê-êàê LOCAL CONTROL â ñèíòå îòêëþ÷åí, òî ðåàãèðîâàòü îí áóäåò òîëüêî íà ìèäè êîìàíäû ïðèõîäÿùèå íà ïîðò MIDI IN.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 10.05.2016 15:45 
Ìîñêâà
C.M.Schroder

>>Ó ñèíòà íå ðàáîòàåò ðåãóëÿòîð ãðîìêîñòè (master) â midi ðåæèìå.  îáû÷íîì
>>ðåæèìå âñå ðàáîòàåò, åñòåññíî.

>òàê-âîò ìîæíî áûëî â âàøåì ñèíòå îòêëþ÷èòü LOCAL CONTROL (óïðàâëåíèå çâóêîì ñâîèìè ìèäè êîìàíäàìè)
>âçÿòü ìèäè-ïîòîê ñ MIDI OUT âàøåãî ñèíòà è ÷åðåç ýòîò ìèäèôèëüòð ïîäàòü åãî îáðàòíî â âàø ñèíò íà MIDI IN
>òàê-êàê LOCAL CONTROL â ñèíòå îòêëþ÷åí, òî ðåàãèðîâàòü îí áóäåò òîëüêî íà ìèäè êîìàíäû ïðèõîäÿùèå íà ïîðò MIDI IN.

Ñïàñèáî çà ñîâåò, íî åñëè Âû ïîñìîòðèòå ìîé ïîñò îò 25.04, òî òàì ñêàçàíî, ÷òî áëàãîäàðÿ ïîäñêàçêå èõ ñàïïîðòà, âñå ïîëó÷èëîñü ïóòåì íàçíà÷åíèÿ íà ðåãóëÿòîðû íóæíûõ ìíå ôóíêöèé íà ñàìîì ñèíòå, áåç
âñÿêèõ âíåøíèõ óñòðîéñòâ, êàê òóò ñîâåòîâàëè âûøå....
Çà âûñòóïëåíèÿ ïîä ôîíîãðàììó íóæíî ïëàòèòü êñåðîêîïèÿìè äåíåã. R.J.Dio
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Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 10.05.2016 17:37 

«Think Different»

>âñÿêèõ âíåøíèõ óñòðîéñòâ, êàê òóò ñîâåòîâàëè âûøå....

À Âû íå çàäóìûâàëèñü,ïî÷åìó ñòàíäàðòíàÿ ïåäàëü ãðîìêîñòè íå öèôðîâàÿ,ïî÷åìó äëÿ íå òîðìîçíîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ ãðîìêîñòüþ ïî öèôðå â ðåàëå íóæíû íå äåø¸âûå öèôðîâûå óñòðîéñòâà?
Ïîèãðàåòå ïî ñâîèì ðåöåïòàì â ðåàëå-ïîéì¸òå.
Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî
îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ðåãóëèðîâêà ãðîìêîñòè ñèíòà â MIDI ðåæèìå
Âðåìÿ: 10.05.2016 22:46 
Ìîñêâà
C.M.Schroder

>À Âû íå çàäóìûâàëèñü,ïî÷åìó ñòàíäàðòíàÿ ïåäàëü ãðîìêîñòè íå öèôðîâàÿ,ïî÷åìó äëÿ íå òîðìîçíîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ ãðîìêîñòüþ ïî öèôðå â ðåàëå íóæíû íå äåø¸âûå öèôðîâûå óñòðîéñòâà?
>Ïîèãðàåòå ïî ñâîèì ðåöåïòàì â ðåàëå-ïîéì¸òå.

Äà, Âû ïðàâû, ïîèãðàë è ïîíÿë, ÷òî ðåãóëèðîâêà íàçíà÷åííûì êíîáîì íèêóäà íå ãîäèòñÿ.
Ãðîìêîñòü ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ, íî î÷åíü íåðàâíîìåðíî. Íà÷àëüíûé ó÷àñòîê êðóòèëêè - òèõî, ïîòîì
ñðàçó ãðîìêî è òàê äî êîíöà ðåãóëÿòîðà. Íè î êàêîé ïëàâíîñòè ðå÷ü íå èäåò.
Ïî÷èòàâ ìàíóàë, âûÿñíèë, ÷òî ïåäàëü ðåãóëèðîâêè ãðîìêîñòè - íå ÷òî èíîå, êàê ïîòåíöèîìåòð íà 10 êîì, ñ ëèíåéíîé õàðàêòåðèñòèêîé è íàç. ïåäàëü íåïðåðûâíîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ.
Âîò òîëüêî âîïðîñ, à áóäåò ýòà øòóêà ðàáîòàòü â ìèäè ðåæèìå,
èëè êîððåêòíàÿ ðàáîòà ãàðàíòèðóåòñÿ òîëüêî â ñòàíäàðòíîì ðåæèìå?
Çà âûñòóïëåíèÿ ïîä ôîíîãðàììó íóæíî ïëàòèòü êñåðîêîïèÿìè äåíåã. R.J.Dio
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!