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Òåìà: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 17.04.2007 18:03 



Ãîñïîäà ìóçûêàíòû!
Íå ìîãëè áû ðàçúÿñíèòü êàê íàùûâàåòñÿ ôèðìåííûé ëèä Äæ. Ðóäåññà èç Äðèì Òåàòð? Ìîæíî ëè êàê-íèáóäü íàñòðîèòü åãî ñàìîìó èëè æå ãäå íèáóäü ñýìïë ñêà÷àòü?
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 17.04.2007 19:46 
Ïèòåð
Kurzweil 2500X, Ibanez RG 570, Pod XT

posted July 25, 2001 10:18 AM
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THe leads that are offered in the 2500 and 2600 are things that I created so Kuzweil users could have a lead sound that is sonically similar to my personal sound.
My sound uses oboe-clarinet-sawtooth, distorted guitar, flute, square waves and sine wave stirred together with some spices thrown in.. It's 7 layers thick.
Some of those layers mentioned are more for the feedback effect when I need it. It's funny because there are some of the layers that are very quiet when you listen to them by themselves, but when put in the whole they add just the right flavor. Welcome to Jordan's kitchen
hour!
Tips:
If you have a kurzweil, try putting the clarinet and oboe/english horn waveforms thru a GAIN stage within the algorhythm. So the algorhythm looks like this.
.Pitch-Lowpass-Gain-Amp
Run the GAIN module up a bit hot and it will add bite to your basic waveform.You will need to compensate and turn down the finalAMP stage!!
Try this with many of the various waveforms I mentioned and then report back!
You will all be rocking soon and coming up with your own very awesome lead.
Don't forget some nice tapped delay-with very little verbage.Basically speaking delay works much better than verb on leads..
have fun,
musically,
Jordan
Ïðîäàì
Kurzweil K2500X 40000ð.
+7-911-9527960
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2007 00:37 
Ìîñêâà
kurzweil kme-61, ôîíî

èíòåðåñíî òîò ïàðåíü ïåðåâåë ýòî
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2007 08:59 



 êóðöàõ åñòü ïàò÷, êîòîðûé íàçûâàåòñÿ Jordan lead, èëè ÷òî-òî â ýòîì äóõå :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2007 09:17 
1-9-9
... è Roland: 700SX, X7, A33, KC550.

Óëûáíèòåñü...

âûâåøåííîå 25-îå èþëÿ 2001 10:18 AM
Ðóêîâîäñòâà ïðåäëîæåíû â 2500 è 2600 áóäóò âåùàìè ÿ ñîçäàë ïîýòîìó ïîòðåáèòåëè Kuzweil ñìîãëè èìåòü çâóê ðóêîâîäñòâà sonically ïîäîáíî ê ìîåìó ëè÷íîìó çâóêó. Ìîé çâóê èñïîëüçóåò oboe-clarinet-sawtooth, ïåðåäåðíóòóþ ãèòàðó, êàííåëþðó, ïðÿìîóãîëüíûå âîëíû è âîëíó ñèíóñà ïîøåâåëåííûå ñîâìåñòíî ïðè íåêîòîðûå ñïåöèè áðîøåííûå cIn. 7 ñëîåâ òîëùèíûõ. Íåêîòîðûå èç òåõ óïîìÿíóòûõ ñëîåâ áîëüøå äëÿ âëèÿíèÿ îáðàòíîé ñâÿçè êîãäà ìíå íóæíî îíî. Îíî funny ïîòîìó ÷òî íåêîòîðûå èç ñëîåâ î÷åíü òèõî êîãäà âû ñëóøàåòå ê èì ñîáîé, íî ïîñëå òîãî êàê ÿ ïîëîæåíû â öåëûé îíè äîáàâëÿþò êàê ðàç ïðàâûé ôëåéâîð. Äîáðî ïîæàëîâàòü ê ÷àñó êóõíè Äæîðäàí! Êîíöû: Åñëè âû èìååòå kurzweil, ïîïûòêó êëàäÿ clarinet è oboe/àíãëèéñêèå ôîðìû âîëíû ðîæî÷êà ÷åðåç ýòàï ÓÂÅËÈ×ÅÍÈß âíóòðè algorhythm. Òàê algorhythm ñìîòðèò êàê ýòî. . Ñîîðóæàòü-Íèçêîïðîõîäí-Ïðèîáðåòàòü-Àìïåð áåæèò ìîäóëü ÓÂÅËÈ×ÅÍÈß ââåðõ ïî áèòó ãîðÿ÷åìó è îí äîáàâèò óêóñ ê âàøåé îñíîâíîé ôîðìå âîëíû. Âàì áóäåò íóæíî êîìïåíñèðîâàòü è ïîâåðíóòü âíèç ýòàï finalAMP!! Ïîïûòàéòåñü ýòî ñ ìíîãî èç ðàçëè÷íûõ ôîðì âîëíû, êîòîð ÿ óïîìÿíóë è ïîñëå ýòîãî ñîîáùàþ íàçàä! Âû âñå áóäåòå òðÿñòè ñêîðî è come up ñ âàøèìè î÷åíü awesome ðóêîâîäñòâî. Íå çàáóäüòå íåêîòîðîå ñëàâíîå âûñòó÷àííîå çàäåðæèâàòü-ñ î÷åíü ìàëåíüêèì verbage. Îñíîâíî ãîâîðèòü çàäåðæèâàåò ðàáîòû î÷åíü áîëåå ëó÷øå ÷åì ãëàãîë íà ðóêîâîäñòâàõ.
èìåéòå ïîòåõó, ìóçûêàëüí, Äæîðäàí

Ïåðåâîä Microsoft Word.
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2007 09:43 

Kurzweil PC4//Roland FP30//Kurzweil PC3 LE6

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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2007 09:43 

Kurzweil PC4//Roland FP30//Kurzweil PC3 LE6

:14:
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2007 14:08 



Âåäåíèå, êîòîðûå ïðåäëàãàþòñÿ â 2500 è 2600, - âåùè, ÷òî ÿ ñîçäàë òàê ïîëüçîâàòåëåé Kuzweil, ìîã èìåòü âåäóùèé çâóê, êîòîðûé ÿâëÿåòñÿ àêóñòè÷åñêè ïîäîáíûì ìîåìó ëè÷íîìó çâóêó. Ìîé çâóê èñïîëüçóåò çóá ïèëû êëàðíåòà-ãîáîÿ, èñêàæåííóþ ãèòàðó, ôëåéòó, êâàäðàòíûå âîëíû è âîëíó ñèíóñà, ðàçìåøèâàåìóþ âìåñòå ñ íåêîòîðûìè äîáàâëåííûìè ñïåöèÿìè.. Åãî 7 òîëñòûõ ñëîåâ. Íåêîòîðûå èç òåõ óïîìÿíóòûõ ñëîåâ - áîëüøå äëÿ ýôôåêòà îáðàòíîé ñâÿçè, êîãäà ÿ íóæäàþñü â ýòîì. Åãî çàáàâíîå, ïîòîìó ÷òî åñòü íåêîòîðûå èç ñëîåâ, êîòîðûå ÿâëÿþòñÿ î÷åíü òèõèìè, êîãäà Âû ñëóøàåòå èõ, íî êîãäà âñòàâëåíî öåëîå, îíè äîáàâëÿþò òîëüêî ïðàâèëüíûé àðîìàò. Äîáðî ïîæàëîâàòü â êóõîííûé ÷àñ Jordans! Ïîäñêàçêè: Åñëè Âû èìååòå kurzweil, ïðîáóéòå ïîìåñòèòü ôîðìû âîëíû ðîæêà êëàðíåòà è ãîáîÿ/àíãëèéñêîãî ÿçûêà ÷åðåç ñòàäèþ ÂÛÃÎÄÛ â ïðåäåëàõ algorhythm. Òàêèì îáðàçîì algorhythm ïîõîæ íà ýòî... Pitch-Lowpass-Gain-Amp Óïðàâëÿþò ìîäóëåì ÂÛÃÎÄÛ, íåìíîãî ãîðÿ÷èì, è ýòî äîáàâèò óêóñ ê âàøåé îñíîâíîé ôîðìå âîëíû. Âû áóäåòå äîëæíû äàòü êîìïåíñàöèþ è âûêëþ÷àòü finalAMP ñòàäèþ!! Ïðîáóéòå ýòî ìíîãèìè èç ðàçëè÷íûõ ôîðì âîëíû, êîòîðûå ÿ óïîìèíàë è çàòåì ñîîáùàòü íàçàä! Âû áóäåòå âñå êà÷àòüñÿ ñêîðî è ïðèäóìûâàòü âàøå ñîáñòâåííîå î÷åíü óäèâèòåëüíîå ëèäåðñòâî. Íå çàáûâàéòå, ÷òî íåêîòîðûå õîðîøèå êðóòèëè äèñê çàäåðæêà - ñ î÷åíü íåáîëüøèì verbage.  îñíîâíîì ðàáîòû çàäåðæêè ðàçãîâîðà íàìíîãî ëó÷øå ÷åì ãëàãîë íà âåäóò.. èìåþò çàáàâó, ìóçûêàëüíî, Èîðäàíèÿ




ïåðåâîä÷èê - PROMT
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2007 14:52 



À òåïåðü ïåðåâåäèòå åãî ýòèì æå ïåðåâîä÷èêîì îáðàòíî íà àíãëèéñêèé, çàòåì ñíîâà íà ðóññêèé, è òàê ìíîãî ðàç.
Áóäåò âåñåëî! :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2007 15:00 
Ñàìàðà
Casio CTK-691, Kurzweil K2000

Èîðäàíèÿ... ûûû:))

À ïðîãðàììû â âèäå ôàéëà krz òàêîé íåò íè ó êîãî?
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2007 15:58 
Ïèòåð
Kurzweil 2500X, Ibanez RG 570, Pod XT

Äà ïîñìîòðè íà åãî ôîðóìå, îíè òàì ïîìîåìó òîëüêî ýòèì è çàíèìàþòñÿ.
Ïðîäàì
Kurzweil K2500X 40000ð.
+7-911-9527960
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 19.04.2007 17:47 

Kurzweil PC4//Roland FP30//Kurzweil PC3 LE6

Îòïðàâëåííûé ïî ïî÷òå 25 èþëÿ 2001 10:18
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Ëèäåðñòâî
, êîòîðîå ïðåäëàãàåòñÿ â 2500 è 2600 - âåùè, êîòîðûå ÿ ñîçäàâàë òàê Kuzweil, ïîëüçîâàòåëè ìîãëè èìåòü âåäóùèé çâóê, ÷òî ÿâëÿåòñÿ sonically ïîäîáíûì ìîåìó ëè÷íîìó çâóêó.
Ìîé çâóêîâîé(íîðìàëüíûé) ãîáîé-êëàðíåò-sawtooth èñïîëüçîâàíèé, èñêàæåííàÿ ãèòàðà, ôëåéòà, êâàäðàòíûå âîëíû è âîëíà ñèíóñà, ðàçìåøèâàåìàÿ âìåñòå ñ íåêîòîðûìè ñïåöèÿìè, áðîøåííûìè â.. Ýòî - 7 òîëñòûõ ñëîåâ.
Íåêîòîðûå èç òåõ óïîìÿíóòûõ ñëîåâ - áîëüøå äëÿ ýôôåêòà îáðàòíîé ñâÿçè, êîãäà ÿ íóæäàþñü â ýòîì. Çàáàâíî, ïîòîìó ÷òî åñòü íåêîòîðûå èç ñëîåâ, êîòîðûå ÿâëÿþòñÿ î÷åíü òèõèìè, êîãäà Âû ñëóøàåòå èõ, íî êîãäà ïîìåùåíî â öåëîå îíè äîáàâëÿþò òîëüêî ïðàâèëüíûé àðîìàò. Äîáðî ïîæàëîâàòü â êóõíþ Èîðäàíèè
×àñ!
Íàêîíå÷íèêè(÷àåâûå):
Åñëè Âû èìååòå kurzweil, ïðîáóåòå ïîìåñòèòü êëàðíåò è ôîðìû âîëíû ðîæêà ãîáîÿ/àíãëèéñêîãî ÿçûêà ÷åðåç ñòàäèþ ÂÛÃÎÄÛ(ÓÂÅËÈ×ÅÍÈß) â ïðåäåëàõ algorhythm. Òàê ÷òî algorhythm íàïîìèíàåò ýòî.
.Pitch-Lowpass-Gain-Amp
Óïðàâëÿéòå ìîäóëåì ÂÛÃÎÄÛ(ÓÂÅËÈ×ÅÍÈß), íåìíîãî ãîðÿ÷èì, è ýòî äîáàâèò óêóñ ê âàøåé îñíîâíîé ôîðìå âîëíû. Âû äîëæíû äàâàòü êîìïåíñàöèþ è îòâåðãíóòü finalAMP ñòàäèþ!!
Ïðîáóéòå ýòî ìíîãèìè èç ðàçëè÷íûõ ôîðì âîëíû, î êîòîðûõ ÿ óïîìÿíóë è çàòåì ñîîáùàòü íàçàä!
Âû áóäåòå âåñü êà÷àòüñÿ ñêîðî è ïðèäóìûâàþùèé âàøå ñîáñòâåííîå î÷åíü óñòðàøàþùåå ëèäåðñòâî.
Íå çàáóäüòå íåêîòîðóþ õîðîøóþ âûÿâëÿåìóþ çàäåðæêó - ñ î÷åíü íåáîëüøèì verbage.  îñíîâíîì ðàçãîâîð çàäåðæêà ðàáîòàåò íàìíîãî ëó÷øå ÷åì ãëàãîë íà ëèäåðñòâå..
Èìåéòå çàáàâó,
Ìóçûêàëüíî,
Èîðäàíèÿ

Ïåðåâåäåíî X-Translator PLATINUM
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 22.04.2007 17:12 
.ιllιlι.ι


"Äîáðî ïîæàëîâàòü â êóõíþ Èîðäàíèè"

:lol:
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 23.04.2007 20:30 
Moscow
Korg M3, Radias-R, Roland V-Synth XT, Gaia, AX-Synth, Blofeld

ãëàãîë íà ëèäåðñòâå...ïðîñòåíüêî,çàòî ñî âêóñîì! :14:
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. Philip K. Dick

FOREST SAVE MY MIND!!!

Destroy, Erase, Improve
Meshuggah
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 23.04.2007 21:16 



à åñëè ñåðü¸çíî - åñòü ëè ëèäû â ôîðìàòå pcg êðîìå Monster Lead ???
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2007 06:18 
Moscow-City
ñêàëüïåëü, çàæèì

ìíå ýòà ôðàçà öåëèêîì íðàâèòñÿ )))
>> ðàçãîâîð çàäåðæêà ðàáîòàåò íàìíîãî ëó÷øå ÷åì ãëàãîë íà ëèäåðñòâå
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2007 10:47 
Ìîñêâà
Ýòíè÷åñêèå

"À ïðîãðàììû â âèäå ôàéëà krz òàêîé íåò íè ó êîãî?"
Ó ìåíÿ èõ öåëûé âàãîí. Ñêîðî îíè ìíå óâû íå ïîíàäîáÿòñÿ...
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2007 22:44 
Ñàìàðà
Casio CTK-691, Kurzweil K2000

R-A-Y,

À äàé ïîæàëñòà:)

À ïî÷åìó íå ïîíàäîáÿòñÿ? Ïðîäà¸øü?
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2007 00:36 



Ìíå ýòîò lead íå î÷åíü íðàâèòñÿ. Îí ñèëüíî ñìàõèâàåò íà äåøåâûé çâóê ãèòàðû â äåøåâûõ ñèíòåçàòîðàõ.
Ïîñëóøàéòå ëó÷øå ñîëî Äýâèäà Ðîçåíòàëÿ íà ìèíèìóãå íà êîíöåðòå Rainbow :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2007 11:17 
Ìîñêâà
Ýòíè÷åñêèå

R-A-Y,
À äàé ïîæàëñòà:)

À ïðèåçæàé â ãîñòè è ïîëó÷è :) Øóäêî. Ëàí òû ìíå íà ìûëî ÷èðêàíè íàïèøè ÷î íàäî êðîìå ëèäîâ ÿ òåáå ÷îíèòü ïîäáåðó èç ñâîåé êîëëåêöèè.

À ïî÷åìó íå ïîíàäîáÿòñÿ? Ïðîäà¸øü?
Óæå ïðîäàë.

Ìíå ýòîò lead íå î÷åíü íðàâèòñÿ. Îí ñèëüíî ñìàõèâàåò íà äåøåâûé çâóê ãèòàðû â äåøåâûõ ñèíòåçàòîðàõ.
Ïîñëóøàéòå ëó÷øå ñîëî Äýâèäà Ðîçåíòàëÿ íà ìèíèìóãå íà êîíöåðòå Rainbow

Íà çâóê è ñâåò òîâàðèùà íåò(ñ)
Âêóñîâùèíà-ÿâëåíèå åñòåñòâåííîå(ñ)
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 28.04.2007 11:41 



gene. Ïðàâ êëàâèøíèê Rainbow ðóëèò
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 28.04.2007 11:47 
Ìîñêâà


Ìóã è êåðç íå ñðàâíèâàéòå!
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2007 21:04 



Òàê åñòü ó êàâî íèáóäü ÷òîíèáóäü?
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 05.07.2007 00:05 

PC3X, G2 Engine, Ti2, TR-Rack, JD-990

>Òàê åñòü ó êàâî íèáóäü ÷òîíèáóäü?

Âîò ññûëêà, è âðÿä ëè ê íåé ÷òî-ëèáî ìîæíî äîáàâèòü.

http://www.progsounds.com/forum/lead_sculpting_jordan_rudess_liquid_t_lead-t3813.0.html
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 05.07.2007 06:40 



Íî ó ìåíÿ íåòó K2600
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 05.07.2007 21:50 

PC3X, G2 Engine, Ti2, TR-Rack, JD-990

>Íî ó ìåíÿ íåòó K2600
À âû òî÷íî äàëüøå ïåðâîãî ýêðàíà ñòàòüþ ÷èòàëè? :)
À åøå òàì íåñêîëüêî ñòðàíèö êîììåíòîâ.
À åùå ìîæíî ñîîáðàçèòü, ÷òî íåñìîòðÿ íà òî, ÷òî ïðèìåðû òàì ïðèâîäÿòñÿ äëÿ êîíêðåòíûõ ñèíòåçàòîðîâ, èñïîëüçîâàòü îáîçíà÷åííûå â ñòàòüå êîíöåïöèè ìîæíî ïðàêòè÷åñêè íà ÷åì óãîäíî.
Íó è, åñòåñòâåííî, íóæíî âîîáùå íåìíîãî ñîîáðàæàòü, èìåòü íåêîòîðûé îïûò sound-design'à, ïðÿìûå ðóêè è êó÷ó âðåìåíè. Áåç ýòîãî âñåãî âàì íè÷åãîøåíüêè íå ñâåòèò :) À íà áëþäå÷êå ãîòîâûé ïðåñåò âàì òîæå íèêòî íå ïîäàðèò.
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Òåìà: Re: LEAD from Jordan Rudess
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2007 12:41 
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