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Ñóòü ïðîáëåìû â ñëåäóþùåì: åñòü êîìïëåêò àïïàðàòóðû ìèêøåð-óñèëîê-ìèêðîôîíû-ìóçûêàëüíûå èíñòðóìåíòû-ïîðòàëû-ìîíèòîðû. Êîãäà çâóê èäåò èç íîóòáóêà â ìèêøåð, íà ìîíèòîðû è êîëîíêè îí âûâîäèòñÿ íà îáå. êîãäà êòî-òî ãîâîðèò â ìèêðîôîí, ïîñðåäñòâîì ïàíîðàìû ðàáîòàåò òîëüêî ïðàâàÿ êîëîíêà, â ëåâóþ çâóê íå èäåò... êîãäà áåðåì äðóãîé ìèêðîôîí, î ÷óäî! èäåò çâóê â äðóãóþ êîëîíêó. áåðåì òðåòèé ìèêðîôîí- íå èäåò çâóê áåðåì ãèòàðó- íå èäåò çâóê íà îáå êîëîíêè, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî íå èäåò è íà ìîíèòîðû. Ïî÷åìó òàê ïîëó÷àåòñÿ? Ï.ñ óñèëèòåëÿ äâà, äëÿ ìîíèòîðîâ îòäåëüíî è äëÿ ïîðòàëîâ òîæå. |
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Ñìîòðèòå êîììóòàöèþ... Ïðè ïðîòèâîôàçå çâóê âðÿä ëè ïîëíîñòüþ áû ãàñèëñÿ | |
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-- Ïñèõóøêà. Ïðîòèâîôàçà òî÷íî íå ïðè ÷¸ì. ×òî çà øèçîèäíûé ìèêøåð? |
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åñëè ÷òî, ïðîòèâîôàçà áûëà íàïèñàíà ðàäè ïðèâëå÷åíèÿ âíèìàíèÿ ïîñåòèòåëåé ôîðóìà) | |
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Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü 
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>YAMAHA MG-24/14 FX AlexBassMan , êàê âû ïàíîðàìèðóåòå äîðîæêè? |
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Ìåíÿ ïóòåí îáûäëèë, ÿ ïîýòîìó â ïîäúåçäå ññó (Âåïðü)
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Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü
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>à êîììóòàöèÿ...÷òî òàì ñìîòðåòü? â êàêèå âõîäû ïîäêëþ÷àåòåñü, íàïðèìåð? |
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ïàíàðàìèðóþ ñ ïîìîùüþ ðåãóëÿòîðà, åñòü äâà èõ BAL & PAN, ñ ïîìîùüþ PAN. ïî÷èòàë â ìàíóàëå ìèêøåðà è âîò ÷òî íàøåë. íå çíàþ, âëèÿåò ëè îíî. Ïîäêëþ÷àþñü â ìóëüòèêîð, à îí ñîîòâåòñòâåííî â ìèêøåð, â ìîíî êàíàë. ìèñòèêà â òîì, ÷òî îäèí ìèêðîôîí èç 3-õ ñëûøåí â îáîèõ ïîðòàëàõ ïðè ïàíàðàìèðîâàíèè, à íà ìîíèòîð âòîðîé íå âûâîäèòüñÿ. Âñå ðàâíî íå ïîíèìàþ, ïî÷åìó íå âûâîäèòñÿ çâóê íà âòîðîé ìîíèòîð(ìóçûêà èç íîóòáóêà âûâîäèòüñÿ íà îáà), Áîã ñ òåìè ïîðòàëàìè.. |
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AlexBassMan , â êàêîì âû ãîðîäå? Óæ î÷åíü õî÷åòñÿ íà ÷óäî ïîñìîòðåòü! |
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Îòëè÷íàÿ òåìà, ïîäïèñàëñÿ. 
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Stand and fight, live by your heart, always one more try!(c) Manowar.
I want it all and i want it now!(c) Queen. Òîëüêî âïåð¸ä!(ñ)  |
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Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê(Äíåïð), Óêðàèíà. | |
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>Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê(Äíåïð), Óêðàèíà. Äðÿìñ. |
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Stand and fight, live by your heart, always one more try!(c) Manowar.
I want it all and i want it now!(c) Queen. Òîëüêî âïåð¸ä!(ñ) |
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>Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê(Äíåïð), Óêðàèíà. -- Íå äîåõàòü... À æàëü! |
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Ðàñïàéêè XLR ñðàâíèòå. Ðàçáåðèòå èëè ïðîçâîíèòå. | |
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-- Íèêàêèå âõîäíûå ðàñïàéêè ìîíî-ÿ÷åéêè íèêàê íå âëèÿþò íà ïàíîðàìèðîâàíèå. | |
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>-- Íèêàêèå âõîäíûå ðàñïàéêè ìîíî-ÿ÷åéêè íèêàê íå âëèÿþò íà ïàíîðàìèðîâàíèå. ìäý.. .. ïðèìåð: ïóëüò, íà âõîäå êàíàëà - XLR (ñòåðåî), à ïîäàþò ðàñïàÿííûé ñ "ïóñòûì" 3-èì èëè 1-ûì øòûð¸ì (ñ TS äæýêà). âîïðîñ: â ýòîì ñëó÷àå ÷åì ðóëèò ïàíîðàìà?! äîïóñêàåì, ÷òî êíîïàðü mono/stereo íà âõîäíîì XLR-å ëèáî îòñóòñòâóåò, ëèáî íå ðàáîòàåò (×ÑÕ). ñîáñíî: > Ñìîòðèòå êîììóòàöèþ... > Ðàñïàéêè XLR ñðàâíèòå. Ðàçáåðèòå èëè ïðîçâîíèòå. 
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> ïóëüò, íà âõîäå êàíàëà - XLR (ñòåðåî) -- Ïðèìåð ÑÒÅÐÅÎ ñòàíäàðòíîãî 3-õ êîíòàêòíîãî XLR - â ñòóäèþ, ïëç! |
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>>> -- Íèêàêèå âõîäíûå ðàñïàéêè ìîíî-ÿ÷åéêè íèêàê íå âëèÿþò íà ïàíîðàìèðîâàíèå. >> ïóëüò, íà âõîäå êàíàëà - XLR (ñòåðåî) >-- Ïðèìåð ÑÒÅÐÅÎ ñòàíäàðòíîãî 3-õ êîíòàêòíîãî XLR - â ñòóäèþ, ïëç! .. íå ïîíåë èäåþ, äà? ïè÷àëüêî.. íèêòî æ íå â êóðñå, ÷òî XLR3 âðîäå êàê íè ðàçó íå "ñòåðåî" ïî RS-297-A è ïðî÷åé ìàêóëàòóðå..  è ÷òî àìåðû íà 3-êó "+" âûâîäèëè òîæ íèêòî íå çíàåò.. óäèâëÿåò, ÷òî ïðî ôàíòîìêó åù¸ íå âñïîìíèë  à ÷òî ðàñïàé êîììóòàöèîííûõ øíóðîâ íà ïàíîðàìêó íå âëèÿåò - òû óæå äîëîæèë, ìîëîööà, "ïåøè èøøî"(ö) 
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-- sda_ , ýòîò "ïîòîê ñîçíàíèÿ" - è íå ïîíÿë, è íå ñîáèðàþñü ðàçáèðàòüñÿ. Åñëè åñòü ÷òî ñêàçàòü ïî äåëó - òî ïèøèòå ÂÍßÒÍÎ. |
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ÿ î÷åíü ðàä, ÷òî âàñ òàê çàõâàòèëà òåìà, íî âîò ïî ñóùåñòâó: | |
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áûëà ïðîâåðåííà ðàñïàéêà, âñå îäèíàêîâî âåçäå ðàñïàÿíî. çàìåòèë åùå îäíèí ìîìåíò, çâóê êîòîðûé èäåò íà îáà ìîíèòîðà è ïîðòàëà èç íîóòáóêà èäåò ÷åðåç òþëüïàíû íà ìèêøåðå(à êîãäà ÷åðåç XLR-Minijack, êîòîðûé âîòêíóò â ìóëüòèêîð, âñå ðàâíî òîëüêî íà 1 ìîíèòîð è 1 ïîðòàë), ÷åðåç âñå îñòàëüíûå âõîäû XLR èäåò çâóê òîëüêî íà 1 ìîíèòîð(aux 1 -âûâîäèò, aux-2 -íå âûâîäèò.), à ïðè ïîíàðàìèðîâàíèè òîëüêî íà 1 ïîðòàë. | |
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sda_ , Âàñ ïðîñèëè: >Ïðèìåð ÑÒÅÐÅÎ ñòàíäàðòíîãî 3-õ êîíòàêòíîãî XLR - â ñòóäèþ/ Âìîñòî îòâåòà - î÷åðåäíàÿ ïîðöèÿ áðåäà. Åñëè Âû àáñîëþòíî íè÷åãî íå ñìûñëèòå íè â òåìå, íè â àïïàðàòóðå âîîáùå - òî âàëèòå îòñþäà íàõðåí, è íå ïîçîðüòå íè ñåáÿ (õîòÿ ýòî Âàøå ëè÷íîå äåëî - âûãëÿäåòü èäèîòîì), íè ÔÎÐÓÌ Â ÖÅËÎÌ. AlexBassMan , íå ìîãó ñêàçàòü, ÷òî òàê óæ çàõâàòèëà - ïðîñòî íåïîíÿòíî, ÷òî òàì ó âàñ âîîáùå ïðîèñõîäèò. Î÷åíü æàëü, ÷òî Âû äàëåêî! |
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À èíäèêàòîðû ÷òî ïîêàçûâàþò? Òîæå îäèí êàíàë? | |
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>à êîãäà ÷åðåç XLR-Minijack À êàê ýòî âñå ðàñïàÿíî? |
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>À èíäèêàòîðû ÷òî ïîêàçûâàþò? Òîæå îäèí êàíàë? Èíäèêàòîðû ïîêàçûâàþò ñòåðåî, âñå îêåé.(è çâó÷èò îíî ïî÷òè êàê ñòåðåî, òîëüêî ëåâûé òèøå, à ïðàâûé ãðîì÷å, íî ïðè ïàíîðàìå â îäíîì íåòó çâóêà, â äðóãîì åñòü.) >>à êîãäà ÷åðåç XLR-Minijack >À êàê ýòî âñå ðàñïàÿíî? - âîò òàê âñå ðàñïàÿíî. |
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Ïîñûëû íà âûõîäû ïðàâèëüíî íàñòðîåíû? | |
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-- Âîò ðîóòèíã ìîíîêàíàëà Âàøåãî ïóëüòà, âñ¸ äîëæíî ðàáîòàòü! | |
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AlexBassMan , íàäåþñü - Âû âñ¸ ïîäà¸òå â ÌÎÍÎ êàíàëû (ñ 1 ïî 24), è ïóëüò äî Âàñ íèêòî ïîä ñåáÿ íå ïåðåïàõèâàë? |
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>Ïîñûëû íà âûõîäû ïðàâèëüíî íàñòðîåíû? ×òî âû èìååòå ââèäó? ïåðâàÿ ãðóïêà àóêñîâ ýòî 1 è 2, â ìèêøåð âîòêíóò ìóëüòèêîð â ýòè ãíåçäà, à â ìóëüòèêîð óñèëîê âîòêíóò. Åñëè ÿ íå òóïëþ, òî âñå ïðàâèëüíî âêëþ÷åíî. >AlexBassMan , íàäåþñü - Âû âñ¸ ïîäà¸òå â ÌÎÍÎ êàíàëû (ñ 1 ïî 24), >è ïóëüò äî Âàñ íèêòî ïîä ñåáÿ íå ïåðåïàõèâàë? ß òîæå î÷åíü íà ýòî íàäåþñü, íî íå ìîãó áûòü óâåðåííûì, íî ÿ óâåðåí â òîì, ÷òî áóêâàëüíî ãîä èëè äâà íàçàä, âñå ðàáîòàëî êàê íóæíî, à âîò ñ "íåäàâíèõ" ïîð íà÷àëàñü ìàãèÿ. Ìîãó ñôîòîãðàôèðîâàòü âñå ýòî äåëî, êàê îíî êîììóòèðîâàííî. È âû ïîñìîòðèòå, ìîæåò ÿ ÷åãî-òî íåäîëÿäåë. |
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Íèæíèé Íîâãîðîä Óäàðíàÿ óñòàíîâêà
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>ïóëüò äî Âàñ íèêòî ïîä ñåáÿ íå ïåðåïàõèâàë? âîò ñ ýòîé ìûñë¸é ÿ è ñïðîñèë ïðî ðàñïàéêè ðàçú¸ìîâ. Èáî, èç èñõîäíîãî îïèñàíèÿ "îäèí ìèêð - â îäíîì êàíàëå, äðóãîé - â äðóãîì" èìåííî òàêîå ïîäîçðåíèå è çàêðàëîñü. AlexBassMan , ãðóáî ãîâîðÿ, ïîäêëþ÷èëè ìèêðîôîí â XLP-input ïåðâîãî êàíàëà, à íà ïàíåëè óïðàâëåíèÿ AUX1 è AUX2 ñòîÿò â îäèíàêîâîì ïîëîæåíèè, íå íà ìèíèìóìå? Âîïðîñ, êîíå÷íî, ñîâñåì íóáñêèé, íî âñ¸ æå. |
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Âðåìÿ: 17.07.2016 20:03 |
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Íèæíèé Íîâãîðîä Óäàðíàÿ óñòàíîâêà
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À åñëè ïîìåíÿòü ìåñòàìè âõîäíûå ðàçúåìû óñèëèòåëÿ, ÷òî ïîëó÷èòñÿ? | |
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Âðåìÿ: 17.07.2016 22:21 |
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Moscow
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AlexBassMan , äàâàéòå íà÷í¸ì ñ ñàìîãî íà÷àëà: Îòêëþ÷èòå îò ïóëüòà âñ¸ âîîáùå. ÏÐßÌÎ Â ÑÀÌ ÏÓËÜÒ, ÂÎ ÂÕÎÄ 1, ÂÊËÞ×ÈÒÅ ÌÈÊÐÎÔÎÍ. Ïðîâåðüòå, êàê ðàáîòàþò ðåãóëÿòîðû è ãäå åñòü çâóê. Ïðîâåðÿåòñÿ âñ¸ î÷åíü ïðîñòî è áåç óñèëèòåëÿ - ïðîñòî âñòàâëÿåòå íàóøíèêè â èíòåðåñóþùåå âàñ ãíåçäî âûõîäà, è ñëóøàåòå. Íè÷åãî íå ñãîðèò, íå áîéòåñü. |
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WELCOME!
WWW.LONG.RU WWW.SOUNDINFO.ORG/FORUM/ |
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Âðåìÿ: 17.07.2016 23:35 |
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Õàðä è ñîôò. 
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Áîãàòàÿ òåìà. Äàâíî òàêîãî äóðäîìà íå áûëî.  Ïîäïèñàëñÿ ïîðæàòü. |
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Professional musician, arranger, sound engineer, sound producer
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Âðåìÿ: 18.07.2016 01:16 |
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Moscow
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-- sda_ , Âàì íðàâèòñÿ ôëåéìèòü íè î ÷¸ì? Íó, äàâàéòå, ïîêàçûâàéòå ñâîþ äóðîñòü, äà ïîáîëüøå - âäðóã êòî-òî Âàñ åù¸ íå çíàåò. Íà âîïðîñû íå îòâå÷àòü - òîæå Âàøå ñâîéñòâî, è òîæå çàìåòíîå. -- ÚÚ , ìíå âñòðå÷àëèñü ïóëüòû ÍÀÑÒÎËÜÊÎ ïåðåïàõàííûå, ÷òî íå ñòîëêíèñü ñàì - ðàññêàçàì î ïîäîáíîì ïðîñòî íå ïîâåðèë áû! Íàïðèìåð, ïóëüò â ÌÎÍÎ, è ñ ÎÄÍÈÌ âõîäîì íà ÄÂÅ ÿ÷åéêè... |
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WELCOME!
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Âðåìÿ: 18.07.2016 01:24 |
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Fender jazz bass japan 93''
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>AlexBassMan , äàâàéòå íà÷í¸ì ñ ñàìîãî íà÷àëà: >Îòêëþ÷èòå îò ïóëüòà âñ¸ âîîáùå. >ÏÐßÌÎ Â ÑÀÌ ÏÓËÜÒ, ÂÎ ÂÕÎÄ 1, ÂÊËÞ×ÈÒÅ ÌÈÊÐÎÔÎÍ. >Ïðîâåðüòå, êàê ðàáîòàþò ðåãóëÿòîðû è ãäå åñòü çâóê. >Ïðîâåðÿåòñÿ âñ¸ î÷åíü ïðîñòî è áåç óñèëèòåëÿ - ïðîñòî âñòàâëÿåòå íàóøíèêè >â èíòåðåñóþùåå âàñ ãíåçäî âûõîäà, è ñëóøàåòå. >Íè÷åãî íå ñãîðèò, íå áîéòåñü. âî, òàê è ñäåëàþ, ïîòîì ðàññêàæó. |
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