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Òåìà: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 23.10.2003 12:30 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 25.10.2003 16:08 |
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Hey brother!Welcome to the Silverburst-Club!;) | |
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Òåìà: re: silverburst-club
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2003 10:41 |
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Thanks Daniel! I've seen the pictures of your's, its very nice looking. I also read your review on Harmony Central, and needless to say, this guitar will also be an Adam Jones Tribute Model (I've been a huge Tool fan for many years now). I noticed you have a Marshall Mode 4, how is that thing? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2003 12:08 |
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Yeah Adam Jones is GOD.Needless to say that you´ll be pleased by your Shamray. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2003 14:17 |
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here is the artwork for the headstock inlay (the real pearl will look even better!) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2003 14:22 |
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shop pics... from last week, the roughed out neck lams and body blank | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2003 14:40 |
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closer look at the neck lams... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2003 14:43 |
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the body, now roughed out a little... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2003 20:12 |
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oooh, a Diezel....aaaaaghhhhh (drooling). I'm just a few weeks away from getting a VHT, don't know if I'll go Ultra-Lead or CLX tho. If I had the dough I would sure as hell get a VH4. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2003 22:49 |
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Like you know,i live in the "homeland" of the Diezels |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2003 22:54 |
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All 4 in 1: Adam "God" Jones,Silverburst,Enochian Board and Diezel VH-4:) | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 30.10.2003 02:21 |
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Wow, seems that Shamray is a gathering for Tool fans! My Silverburst is hopefully gonna be CS0012, and thanks to Daniel posting about his, otherwise I wouldn't have ever found this place. I have a funny story about how I first met the legendary Silverburst, but I'll save that for another time... |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 30.10.2003 08:35 |
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Seeing Tool live a few times this past tour was actually what inspired the inlay design. They had a giant septagram as a backdrop for all of 'Reflection-Triad' and 'Lateralus'. The ouroboros is something they played on those huge video screens during 'H'. There is a still shot of the actual image they used on www.chetzar.com, but it is too complex I think for an inlay. Unfortunately, I never saw them on the Aenima tours, but I think I recall Danny having some sort of Enochian board in front of his set at each of the shows I attended. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 30.10.2003 18:43 |
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speaking of 'Septagrams'.... when I showed Shamray the artwork for Matt's headstock inlay, he countered with some artwork of his own (the tattoo on his shoulder...) | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 30.10.2003 19:35 |
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cool. dig it. Hey Michael, what is your opinion of Tool? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 30.10.2003 22:34 |
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I havent listened to enough Tool to have a real 'opinion'. The tunes I have heard (here and there) have showed some influences like Floyd and Zeppelin, and other rather likeable stuff. Basically it sounds like "Rock and Roll" to me, they do remind me of a couple of bands I produced records for in Vancouver (back in the mid-90s...) Tool seems to be more than holding their own aganst the many other acts working that genre - I think their rather vigorous sales figures worldwide pretty much speak for themselves! 
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 31.10.2003 00:47 |
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Yeah,you can´t even put Tool in a musical category.The whole "Tool-Thing" is even more than just simple "music" to me. Btw:I will get the "third eye inlay" for my next Shamray "Cremona" also tattooed soon... | ||
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 31.10.2003 12:45 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 31.10.2003 12:47 |
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I dig that inlay Daniel, I believe it is The Eye of Horus. BTW...webmasters should probably put the pic I just posted as a link...I guess I was thinking bandwidth grows on trees. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 31.10.2003 16:05 |
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Hey Matt,did you read the recent Tool-Newsletter? THE NEW TOOL DVD I didn’t get a single e-mail today asking me when it was coming out. Now that’s scary (if you’re in Tool, that is). Nevertheless, I FINALLY do have some information about the release date which is now scheduled for … FUCK!:fou: | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 31.10.2003 19:19 |
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yea, Bliar can be such a wanker. Hey, are you in Tool Army? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 31.10.2003 23:20 |
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today's pics... shot of truss rod being installed, and you can see the new black headstock facing too! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 31.10.2003 23:31 |
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here is a good look at "the mother of all neck tenons"... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 01.11.2003 03:41 |
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Holy.... why the XXXXL neck tenon? What bearing does it have on playing/tone/whatever? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 01.11.2003 15:00 |
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A "long neck tenon" gives a bigger glueing surface, and with our special proprietary Russian fish hide glue creating an organic bond at the molecular level - that translates to more integration of vibrations, so the whole guitar resonates better. The 'super-jumbo XXXL neck tenon' on CS-0009 is just to increase the neck mass a little bit to compensate for the special carved neck heel. (styled after the picture below) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 01.11.2003 18:42 |
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@matt Nope,i think "Toolarmy" is mostly crap | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 06.11.2003 00:57 |
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Wow, that neck joint looks awesome...I've been looking for something like that in a les Paul....are there any angled/side shots of that to see what fret that goes up to??? I have another thread looking to a get a 24 fret Les Paul made possibly....this would help that design so much. Another solution in combination would be to move the bridge up a quarter of an inch or so...the neck would stick out a little more but it would help that upper fret access bigtime!! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 06.11.2003 03:29 |
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On an LP, the cutaway joins the body at about the 20th fret, so that's also the limit of the neck heel cutaway, without modifying up the natural 'LP cutaway curvature'... From the back, the contoured heel cutaway corresponds to the area under the 16th to 21st frets! (see heel pic above) You can see the future heel carve marked sort of as an "X-ray line" in this picture.. which shows top carving just getting underway! The end of the fretboard and the XXXL neck tenon are also roughly penciled in for illustration... |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 06.11.2003 07:28 |
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What's up fellow tool fans... and fellow silverburst fans.. first... thanks to you Daniel for your post on HarmonyCentral about your silverburst.. I read that and had to check out the Shamray site... I own a 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom Silverburst.. and I love it! One of my favorite out of my 12 Les Pauls.. definitely a tone all to itself... but now after seeing your guitar and other Les Paul models.. I myself.. think in the near future I am going to custom order a Les Paul model from Shamray... but of course with the Red LED's.. Have you gotten a chance Daniel to play a Gibson Silverburst? And if so how do you think it compares in playability and tone to the Shamray? Just curious... Also check out my band if you guys could..... www.mp3.com.au/flydust We're a rock band from Colorado, USA... Take care guys.. talk to you all soon.... peace |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 06.11.2003 11:48 |
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@Michael No,i haven´t played a Original Silverburst so far coz they are VERY RARE in here in Germany.I only found one one guy here who has one,but he lives in the other corner of Germany,so there is no chance to play it |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 06.11.2003 12:21 |
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@Michael, |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 07.11.2003 06:12 |
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Yes the tone story is true.... there is a dark tone to these guitars with the original pickups... I was lucky to find a 1980 Silverburst from Guitar Center in Hollywood, CA one night searching the net.. cost me a pretty penny though $2,800 but well worth it.. all original.. slight buckle rash..... but my silver is still silver.. which you know is rare.. mine has not greened at all... VERY RARE..!! Hence the high price tag....and in awesome condition..... I love it! Daniel.. how much are the VH4's in Germany? I have 2 Dual Rectifiers I play through..but would love a vh4..... if you could let me know how much you can get em for i'd appreciate it.... Did you guys check out my bands mp3 site? www.mp3.com.au/flydust TTYL |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 07.11.2003 06:17 |
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Oh .. forgot to ask what your price quote for your silverburst was Matt? I wanna order a Les Paul.. .. similiar to .. the weight of a custom and design wise the same but a different finish.... and a custom inlay on the neck and headstock.... just curious what your silverburst is running you since I am from CO, USA.... thanks | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 07.11.2003 11:09 |
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@ Michael, My LP Silverburst is costing me $2200, but that is with shipping, shipping insurance, and an extra pickup that I am going to put in my SG. Shamray offers so many upgrades for such reasonable prices, it is definately the best deal I could find for a Silverburst, and much more personalized as well. What do you think of your MESAs? I am going to purchase a new amp soon, but I am stuck between the MESA Road King and a VHT UL or CLX. I am hoping of getting another guitar from Shamray in the next year, and while I hope the best for their business, I also hope their prices don't change much. Maybe a sort of first-order-first-serve system is in order? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 07.11.2003 13:59 |
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A new VH-4 (Mono) Head cost 2450? = $2805. Hopefully i will get it next week.There is a very long "wait loop" even here in Germany... |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 08.11.2003 04:56 |
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Matt.... I love my Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifiers... awesome tone.... I am actually looking into getting a Mesa Road King amp head here soon .. and selling one of my dual rec's toward it.... You'll have to let me know how the guitar is Matt after you get it... do you or Dan.. own any Gibson Les Pauls? If so you'll have to tell me how it is in comparison to them.. with Shamray's great reviews.. I am definitely wanting a custom Les Paul model guitar for myself now.... TTY all soon |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 17.11.2003 11:10 |
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@ whoever reads these while Michael Walker is on vacation, I have a query regarding the Silverburst finish you guys use. Does it age and 'green' as on the original Gibson's? Or is it more permanent? I was wondering if it would be possible to use a finish that will 'green' over time. If it isn't, I think I will opt for a similiar finish to the one Spike is getting on his LP. Let me know and I will find a picture or two of the color I would like. peace, Matt Brawner |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 17.11.2003 12:22 |
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From what Michael has told me, the finish will not change once applied... the risk you take with a finish that will green over time is that it will become the horrible snot-yellowburst unless you keep it in certain conditions. Another thing you might want to take into consideration is how wide you want the burst to be - 1979 models had a wider, more gradual burst, and the 1980 onwards had a much quicker burst with more black around the edges. If you're interested I can send you my little archive of Silverburst pictures, which include some that Michael sent me. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 17.11.2003 18:52 |
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hi! just checking in from a web-cafe in Bangkok... (weather here is 33 degrees celsius, and very humid)  As Spike says, the finish will not green over time, it will stay the basically the same color for the next 100 years or so, as long as you dont leave it out in the sun a lot (strong ultraviolet will fade any pigment over time...) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0009 - Shamray Custom Shop "SILVERBURST CUSTOM" for Matt Brawner (Washington, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 17.11.2003 23:21 |
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Thanks Spike. That'd be cool if you wanted to send me some of your silverburst archives, I have a decent one goin myself. I think I may go with this color. (yellow case)As for the burst shape...I found an example of an 80's style burst with more 'fade-in' than most. Too bad the angle isn't that great in the pic. |
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