CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland) (страница 1)

Время: 21.04.2005 21:02
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Congratulations Ben, on the birth of your new Shamray Custom Shop instrument (serial number CS 0059)!
We will post pictures of it's construction-in-progress from time to time here in this thread.

For the curious, here are the specs on CS 0059:

LPStandard “1959 Burst” dimensions - Faded Cherry/TeaBurst finish as per BOTB “9-1901”
(Body Back, Side Of Body, Back of Neck & Headstock to be usual LP standard red pore filler / clear lacquer.)

Body & neck: Lightweight Honduras mahogany. 1-piece body and 1-piece neck. (neck is quartersawn '50s honduran mahogany )
Neck profile: 59 spec, Long neck tenon.
Top wood: Mild-flame maple
Fretboard: 1950s BRAZILIAN rosewood with “vintage-style” PERLOID trapezoid inlays, TORTOISE side dots
Headstock: Hand-painted Shamray script logo. Blank vintage-style TR cover
Binding: cream binding- single layer “NIBS” (vintage-style) on fretboard, single-layer on front of body, thin in cutaway (maple "window")

Hardware: nickel tune-o-matic (ABR) bridge & nickel ALUMINUM tailpiece, nickel “vintage-style” Kluson machine heads. Nickel strap buttons. Cream plastic pickup rings, cream rectangular jackplate, cream toggle washer, matte black plastic control cavity covers, and cream "LP" pickguard. Aged (vintage amber) toggle switch top.
Electronics: 50's LP standard wiring; toggle switch, 2 volume, 2 tone. US pots, US toggle, US jack, Oil-in-paper caps,
NO CAVITY SHIELDING, but vintage style braided wiring throughout.
Knobs: 4 "hat knobs" (plastic, amber color) with nickle “pointers”
Pickups: Chernishev custom wound replica PAF with “vintage 59 winding” - Zebra bobbins, Nickle covers.
Case: Deluxe LP case.
Strings: TO BE DECIDED

Время: 25.04.2005 14:30
Автор: Ben Pook
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Thanks Michael for your help in getting this project off
the ground. Looking forward to starting the build!
Ben

Время: 10.05.2005 16:15
Автор: CreationSeries
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Время: 21.05.2005 22:36
Автор: CreationSeries
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Время: 24.05.2005 18:17
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

UPDATE: top wood was bookmatched today

Время: 26.05.2005 19:40
Автор: CreationSeries
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Время: 26.05.2005 20:20
Автор: Orpheo
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

this is really going to be a '59 reissue, isn't it?

Время: 27.05.2005 00:45
Автор: Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Hand crafted

Время: 27.05.2005 01:10
Автор: Orpheo
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

if I have the money (i hope: somewhere around september) i will
place my first order here. also for R9 but now with a thicker neck
and a compound radius neck, and some other gimmicks:D:D a
hell of a lot cheaper than gibsons....(no offence against
gibson...)

Время: 27.05.2005 01:31
Автор: Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

This guitar should be closer to an original '59 than any
"reissue". R9s are simply copies themselves, and not
entirely accurate ones either. I'm hoping this guitar will
get me as close as possible to a NOS '59 (but of course
without the "G" word on the headstock)

Время: 03.06.2005 14:26
Автор: CreationSeries
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Время: 03.06.2005 18:17
Автор: Insonicum

Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

whos the crafter on this project
love the fretboard wood. cant wait to see it finished.

Время: 03.06.2005 23:31
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

The crafter is Pavel Bashmokov!

Время: 07.06.2005 13:50
Автор: CreationSeries
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Время: 07.06.2005 13:50
Автор: CreationSeries
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Время: 06.07.2005 21:12
Автор: D.Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

My first attempt at posting a few pics:

Время: 06.07.2005 21:25
Автор: Orpheo
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

oh lord....this thing is gorgeous...and FAST.......love to see it
completed!!

btw: the fingeboard, is rosewood isnt it?

Время: 06.07.2005 21:38
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Yes, its very old (more than 50 years old!) Brazilian Rosewood. It will look quite a bit darker after its been oiled...

Время: 06.07.2005 22:21
Автор: D.Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

The guitar is looking VERY nice indeed.
Pasha is a mastercraftsman, without a doubt!
I'm not too keen on the fingerboard colour as it is in the pics, so I'm REALLY hoping to see it darken after the oiling. Keeping my fingers crossed...

Время: 06.07.2005 23:31
Автор: Orpheo
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Ben, I agree. its very nice. but the fingerboard has to be a bit
darker

michael, does brazilian rosewood sound different from normal
indian/rio rosewood? or feel...?

Время: 07.07.2005 00:50
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

no, "Brazilian' rosewood doesnt sound or feel any different.

Oftentimes it doesnt even LOOK any different, although most of it does have characteristic orange/yellow stripes alternating with black veins. I have seen about ten different shades so far, ranging from almost black, to very pale.

Its been prized over the years for its dramatic figureing, though it got a lot of use in the early part of the last century simply because it was cheap, readily available, and easily exploited (to the point where it was nearly EXTINCT, and harvesting for export was banned )

Время: 07.07.2005 00:56
Автор: Orpheo
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

ok. so, as I see it now, its being used nowadays, " just for the
name" right? and if i have a really nice piece of rio-rosewood,it
wouldn't make a difference? (except for YOUR wallet?

)

Время: 07.07.2005 01:00
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Yes, many people want it for the 'bragging rights', to some extent... plus a lot of people just want to have some rare, old wood on their guitar

Время: 07.07.2005 01:18
Автор: Orpheo
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

ok....

well, i prefer rare old wood in my guitars too. but only some nice
mahogony and nice maple. i don't care too much about old
rosewood. but i do care about old mahogony, strange twist in
my mind, perhaps (very likely

) but i do like it....dont know
why.

Время: 07.07.2005 01:31
Автор: D.Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

There is debate whether a braz board has any sonic difference to Indian, with strong opinions on either side of the argument (I guess we know where Michael stands

). I don't know anyone who has taken their fretboard off and replaced it with the other to document the difference! The major reason people use it on replica guitars is that it is vinage correct.
Brazilian has a distinctive smell to it, and the braz-equipped guitars I've played have a waxy feel that indian rosewood doesn't have. They are very difficult to distunguish from each other -- the pores on braz tend to be longer than indian, but it can be tricky. Colour is too varied to be reliable.

Время: 08.07.2005 06:27
Автор: D.Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

More pics to share:

Время: 08.07.2005 15:08
Автор: Orpheo
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

man, i love that burst!! gorgeous

Время: 09.07.2005 02:01
Автор: D.Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

I'm getting the hang of posting these photos...
Here are a few of the latest pics:
(Still needs to be polished)

Время: 09.07.2005 03:35
Автор: Orpheo
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

damn......

ben, dont torment me this much with this axe...not " even"
polished?? damn..it looks great, even without polishing.

btw: what kinda pups do you want, and i am not refering to
wounds, but looks. in the neck nickel cover and at the bridge a
zebrahum? (black-white bobbin)

Время: 09.07.2005 03:53
Автор: D.Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Orpheo,
Thanks for your compliments on the guitar! Bashmakov and the rest of the Shamray crew deserve the utmost praise. Hopefully I'll get a photo of Pavel with CS-0059 (the artist with his art )...
Re pickups:
I decided to give the Chernishevs a try -- Seems like a cool idea to put russian hand-made pickups in a russian hand-made guitar!
Both will have nickel covers, but I specified to have the bobbins zebra (black on adjustable pole pieces side, cream on the slug side) just in case I feel like uncovering the pups later on.
I think zebra pups on a burst are superb...

Время: 11.07.2005 03:59
Автор: steve hill
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Ben your LP is looking awesome. Really like the color. The brazillian will sound different because of the type of oil that occurs in it natuarally. The density is also different. Age and how it was stored too. I know a guy who sells a boatload of Real deal Braz thats 50 plus old and there is not much he doesn't know about fingerboards. www.colonialtonewoods.com His name is Steve Roberson great person to deal with.

Время: 11.07.2005 07:14
Автор: D.Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Steve,
Thanks for the compliments on the guitar! (Yours is not too shabby either

)
Re Steve Robertson:
Hmmm... I'm not too happy now that I know I could have picked out a darker braz board for 1/4 the price! :sweat:

Время: 11.07.2005 07:44
Автор: steve hill
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

The board will darken up with oil and from the finger sweat. Your finger board looks great don't sweat it. I am 41 and was not able to see a real 58-59 when new. I would imagine that all the fingerbaords like Michael said come in mant different colors and darknesses. Steve Deals in very huge quantities so the price would be a lot different. Again he deals in just wood supplies. A guitar maker does not have the liberty to have 1000 Braz boards laying around. People got to get paid.

Время: 11.07.2005 08:40
Автор: D.Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

"Your finger board looks great don't sweat it."

-- But won't that make it darker? :lol:

Время: 11.07.2005 16:26
Автор: steve hill
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Damb straight. Aaeight!!! :lol:

Just a little early 90's humor

What part of Ireland are you from Ben. My grand parents are from Denmark.

Время: 11.07.2005 19:13
Автор: D.Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

I'm actually Canadian .
I am currently studying in Dublin, Ireland, and was on the "green isle" when I placed my Shamray order, so I guess that's why Michael noted "Ireland" in my guitar title.

Время: 14.07.2005 22:00
Автор: D.Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

A couple more pics:

Время: 15.07.2005 00:24
Автор: Orpheo
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

lovely maple cap dude!!

some flame, but also some grain. great.

Время: 15.07.2005 00:35
Автор: D.Ben
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

Yes, I think it looks very authentic. Not too overpowering, and has some nice "action".
I'm a big fan of how the figuring changes depending on the viewing angle -- very cool!

Время: 15.07.2005 06:30
Автор: Steven C. Hill
Тема: Re: CS 0059 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘POOK-BURST” for Ben Pook (Ireland)

IT'S REALLY COOL TO SEE THE PROGRESS ON THE NITRO. Really brings out the wood grain. Awesome Ben. :lol:

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