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Òåìà: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 10:46 
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

Âñåì ïðèâåò)))
Ïîñîâåòóéòå ïëèç ïðîöåññîð ýôôåêòîâ äî 50òð
Ñêëîíÿþñü ê âûáîðó Lexicon mpx1 á/ó çà 20òð.
Ìîæåò ÷òî òî ïîëó÷øå åñòü?
Çàðàíåå ñïàñèáî.

Êñòàòè, íîâûå Lexicon mx 300 è mx 400 êòî íèáóäü ïðîáîâàë?
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 11:07 
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

mpx1 õâàëÿò â ñåòè, íî îòïóãèâàåò, òî ÷òî îí àíîíñèðîâàí 1996 ãîäó...
à ñîâðåìåííûå Ëåêñû ñåðèè mx ðóãàþò, ìîæåò ýòî êàê ñ âèíäîóâñ 7 ïîñëå õð - íîâîå, íå ïðèâû÷íîå âîò è ðóãàþò...
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 11:12 
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

Óïñ, çàáûë ñêàçàòü, ÷òî íóæíà äëÿ âîêàëà, òàêàÿ ïëîòíàÿ, êîðîòêàÿ øèïÿùàÿ ðåâåðáåðàöèÿ, êàê ó áîëüøèíñòâà ñîâðåìåííûõ ïåñåí.
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 11:21 
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

Àïïàðàòíàÿ íóæíà, hardware.
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 14:06 
Moscow


-- 400-é ÿ ïðîäàë ìíîãî ëåò íàçàä, à äîâîëåí ýòèì - äî ñèõ ïîð.
WELCOME!
WWW.LONG.RU
WWW.SOUNDINFO.ORG/FORUM/
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 14:29 
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

>-- 400-é ÿ ïðîäàë ìíîãî ëåò íàçàä, à äîâîëåí ýòèì - äî ñèõ ïîð.

Âû íå óêàçàëè êàêèì?
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 15:17 
Pey whiskey
Love siski

>>-- 400-é ÿ ïðîäàë ìíîãî ëåò íàçàä, à äîâîëåí ýòèì - äî ñèõ ïîð.
>Âû íå óêàçàëè êàêèì?
Ëîíã äîâîëåí òåì, ÷òî ïðîäàë 400-é.
>ñpaòü ñåë, è âûëåòåëî âñ¸ èç ãîëîâû (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî

>ÿ ñïåðâà ïîìíèë, à ïîòîì ïåðåñòàë (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 18:02 
Í-ñê
Keyboards

>Óïñ, çàáûë ñêàçàòü, ÷òî íóæíà äëÿ âîêàëà, òàêàÿ ïëîòíàÿ, êîðîòêàÿ øèïÿùàÿ ðåâåðáåðàöèÿ, êàê ó áîëüøèíñòâà ñîâðåìåííûõ ïåñåí.

Îäèí ñöûëü íà þòþá, íàïðèìåð...

À òàê, â êà÷åñòâå ðåâåðà, õâàëèëè Áðèêàñòè Ì7.
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 19:00 
spb
midi

>Lexicon vs. TC Electronics

TC Electronics (ê ïðèìåðó M2000M3000) ëó÷øèé àïïàðàò äëÿ èìèòàöèé ðàçíûõ ïîìåùåíèé, ïîýòîìó åãî ëþáÿò êèíîøíèêè
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 19:49 
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

TC Electronics âçÿë ïîïðîáîâàë - íå ìóç äåâàéñ âîîáùå, òî÷íî êèíîøíûé...
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 19:53 
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

>>
>Îäèí ñöûëü íà þòþá, íàïðèìåð...
>
Äà ïîëíî... âîò íàïðèìåð ñàìûé ÿðêî-øèïÿùèé âîêàë:

https://youtu.be/EBEirN5_jo8
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 23:14 
Saint-Petersburg


Íàñòîÿùèå æåëåçêè íà ðåâåðáåðàöèè

Lexicon 480
Lexicon 300
NuVerb
Lexicon PCM70
Lexicon MPX-1

Ýòî ìîé ëè÷íèé ðåéòèíã (íè íà ÷òî íå ïðåòåíäóþ), â êîòîðûé âêëþ÷åíû èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî ïðèáîðû, êîòîðûìè äîâåëîñü ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ â ðåàëüíîé ðàáîòå.
Áóäó ðàä, åñëè ýòî ïîìîæåò îïðåäåëèòüñÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 23:22 
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

Ñïàñèáî dess, à êîìïðåññîð åù¸ íå ïîñîâåòóåòå?
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 01:44 
spb
midi

>TC Electronics âçÿë ïîïðîáîâàë - íå ìóç äåâàéñ âîîáùå, òî÷íî êèíîøíûé...

íî ñàì çâóê ñàìûé êà÷åñòâåííûé èç âñåãî â ýòîì äèàïàçîíå
äëèííûå âûñîêî÷àñòîòíûå õâîñòû ðåâåðáåðàöèè áåç âñÿêîãî ÃÐßÇÍÎÃÎ ÏÅÑÊÀ â îòëè÷èè îò êîíêóðåíòîâ
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 02:10 
Saint-Petersburg


>Ñïàñèáî dess, à êîìïðåññîð åù¸ íå ïîñîâåòóåòå?
Ýòî ãîðàçäî ñëîæíåå. Î÷åíü ìíîãî çàâèñèò îò òîãî, ÷òî è êàê Âû ñîáèðàåòåñü êîìïðåññèðîâàòü, à òàê æå îò áþäæåòà, ñòèëÿ/æàíðà/íàïðàâëåíèÿ ìóçûêè è ëè÷íîãî âêóñà.
Ëè÷íî ÿ â ðàçíûõ óñëîâèÿõ ïîëüçóþñü ËÞÁÛÌ äîñòóïíûì/èìåþùåìñÿ çäåñü è ñåé÷àñ.
Ëþáèìûé — êëîí vari-mu îò Âëàäèìèðà Ïåòðîâà. Íà ðàáîòå èñïîëüçóþ íîâîäåëüíûé Universal Audio 2-1176 Twin.
Ïîêàçàëñÿ ìíå èíòåðåñíûì Stereochannel îò óâàæàåìîãî Long'à, íî ó ìåíÿ íåò ñâîåãî, óâû...
Èç ðàñïðîñòðàí¸ííûõ ìíå ÑÊÎÐÅÅ ÍÅ íðàâèòñÿ (èëè íå ïîêàçàëîñü) — Symetrix 501 è dbx 1066.

Íî ïðèçûâàþ Âàñ íå ñëèøêîì îïèðàòüñÿ íà ìîé (è ÷åé-ëèáî åù¸!) îïûò, à ïûòàòüñÿ íàðàáàòûâàòü ñâîé.
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 02:12 
Saint-Petersburg


Êñòàòè, ðåâåðáåðàòîðû TC Elåctronics ìíå íå ïîíðàâèëèñü. Ó íèõ ìíå ïîêàçàëèñü èíòåðåñíûìè õîðóñû, à ïðîñòðàíñòâà òèïà "hall" — íà ìîé âêóñ ñëèøêîì ìàòåìàòè÷íû. À ÿ ëþáëþ ìóçûêó âìåñòî ÷èñòûõ ñèíóñîâ.
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 03:23 
Moscow


>mpx1 õâàëÿò â ñåòè, íî îòïóãèâàåò, òî ÷òî îí àíîíñèðîâàí 1996 ãîäó...

-- Íå ïóãàéòåñü. 480-é âîîáùå â 1986 áûë âûïóùåí, àí - è ïîíûíå îäèí èç ëó÷øèõ ðåâåðîâ.
Âîò ñîâðåìåííûå ëåêñû - ëó÷øå íå íàäî. Áÿêà... :)
WELCOME!
WWW.LONG.RU
WWW.SOUNDINFO.ORG/FORUM/
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 09:18 
Ìîñêâà


Ñòàðûå äèãèòå÷è ïîñìîòðèòå... Òîò æå ëåêñèêîí òîëüêî ñáîêó
Àëåêñ
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 12:10 
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

Âñåì ñïàñèáî íà÷íó ñâîé ïóòü ñ ìðõ1.
À èç êîìïðåññîðîâ âûáîð ïàë íà dbx160 èëè 160À
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 13:25 
Moscow


>èç êîìïðåññîðîâ âûáîð ïàë íà dbx160 èëè 160À

-- À âîò ýòî - çðÿ. Äè÷àéøèé îâåðïðàéñ, êàê ìèíèìóì. (Ïðî "êàê÷åñòâî" ñîâðåìåííûõ äáõ - ãîâîðèòü, ïîëàãàþ, íå íàäî?)
Íóæåí õîðîøèé êîìïðåññîð è íå äîðîãî - ñìîòðèòå â ñòîðîíó 3630 ñ íàøåé ïåðåäåëêîé.
Ýòî ÷óòü ëè íå âòðîå äåøåâëå 160À, òîëüêî áóäóò ÄÂÀ êàíàëà, è ÕÎÐÎØÈÕ.
WELCOME!
WWW.LONG.RU
WWW.SOUNDINFO.ORG/FORUM/
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 14:55 
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

Long ñïñ, íóæíî ïðîìîíèòîðèòü.


ß òóò ñ Mpx1 ìóäîõàþñü.... êàê íàñòðîèòü ðåâåðá äëÿ âîêàëà?
Òðè âîïðîñà:
1) ÷òî ëó÷øå âûáðàòü: vocal plate, hall, chamber ( small, medium, large, rich) è òä
2) êàêîé óñòàíîâèòü Pre-delay
3) êàêîé äëèíû Decay

Äîïóñòèì, ïîïñà, ðèòì òðåêà 120 óäàðîâ â ìèíóòó...
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 22:56 
Saint-Petersburg


>Long ñïñ, íóæíî ïðîìîíèòîðèòü.
>ß òóò ñ Mpx1 ìóäîõàþñü.... êàê íàñòðîèòü ðåâåðá äëÿ âîêàëà?
>Òðè âîïðîñà:
>1) ÷òî ëó÷øå âûáðàòü: vocal plate, hall, chamber ( small, medium, large, rich) è òä
>2) êàêîé óñòàíîâèòü Pre-delay
>3) êàêîé äëèíû Decay
>Äîïóñòèì, ïîïñà, ðèòì òðåêà 120 óäàðîâ â ìèíóòó...


ÎÒÂÅÒÈË â "ëè÷êó"
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2016 09:17 
Ìîñêâà
Roland XP-80, Main Stage, Logic Pro

>ß òóò ñ Mpx1 ìóäîõàþñü.... êàê íàñòðîèòü ðåâåðá äëÿ âîêàëà?

Êóïèë òóò ñêðèïêó Ãâàðíåðè. Íà ôîðóìàõ ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî Ñòðàäèâàðè êðóòî, íî äîðîãî. À íà Ãâàðíåðè òèïà Ïàãàíèíè èãðàë è òîæå íîðìàëüíî áûëî. Âîò òåïåðü ñ íåé ìóäîõàþñü.

×òî íà íåé èãðàòü, ÷òîá êðóòî çâó÷àëî è äåíåã äàëè? (ïåðâûé òàíåö æåíèõà è íåâåñòû)

Òàïêàìè íå êèäàéòåñü, - â æèçíè íà ñêðèïêå íå èãðàë. :dance1:
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2016 10:11 
Ìîñêâà
Roland XP-80, Main Stage, Logic Pro

>Äà ïîëíî... âîò íàïðèìåð ñàìûé ÿðêî-øèïÿùèé âîêàë:
>https://youtu.be/EBEirN5_jo8

Âîò áóäåò ïðèêîë, åñëè òàì íà ñàìîì äåëå êàêîé-íèáóäü Space Designer :)
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2016 10:24 
Í-ñê
Keyboards

>>Äà ïîëíî... âîò íàïðèìåð ñàìûé ÿðêî-øèïÿùèé âîêàë:
>>https://youtu.be/EBEirN5_jo8
> Âîò áóäåò ïðèêîë, åñëè òàì íà ñàìîì äåëå êàêîé-íèáóäü Space Designer

À ÿ ÷òî-òî íå óâåðåí, ÷òî ðåâåð ïðèâíîñèò "øèïåíèå". Ñêëîíåí äóìàòü, ÷òî íåò. Çà "øèïåíèå" îòâå÷àåò íå ðåâåð.
Âïðî÷åì, ìîæíî îòûñêàòü ñòàðûé àíàëîãîâûé — âîò òàì ñîáñòâåííûé "øèï" è åù¸ è ìåòàëëè÷åñêèé ïðèçâóê, — è ãîòîâî î÷åðåäíîå ìîäíîå çâó÷àíèå )
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2016 16:51 



Lexicon vs. TC Electronics

Ñðâíèâàòü íåò ñìûñëà. Ýòî ëèäåðû ðåâåðîñòðîåíèÿ.
Ðàçíûå êîíöåïöèè, ðàçíûå àëãîðèòìû.
Øèðîêî èñïîëüçóåþòñÿ âî âñåõ òîïîâûõ ñòóäèÿõ ìèðà.
Ìîè ëþáèìûå - TC M 6000, Lexicon 224XL
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2016 21:21 
×åáóðàøêè
ó êîòîðîãî íå áûëî äðóçåé

>TC Electronics âçÿë ïîïðîáîâàë - íå ìóç äåâàéñ âîîáùå, òî÷íî êèíîøíûé...

îøèáàåòåñü. âïîëíå ñåáå ðàáî÷èå ëîøàäêè. 6000/4000 - î÷åíü õîðîøèå. âîïðåêè áûòóþùåìó ìíåíèþ, ìíå íðàâèòñÿ è 5000, õîðóñû òàì çàìå÷àòåëüíûå. êîãäà â 2009 óñëûøàë Bricasti M7 - ñðàçó êóïèë. è âîò ïî÷åìó - ÿ òùàòåëüíî ýêâàëèçîâàë è êîìïðåññèðîâàë õâîñòû Lexicon 300/480, âêëþ÷èë M7 è óñëûøàë ðîâíî òî, ÷òî õîòåë. áåçî âñÿêèõ òàíöåâ ñ áóáíàìè. â êà÷åñòâå ðåçþìå - ìîè ëè÷íûå ôàâîðèòû - Bricasti M7, AMS RMX16, Yamaha SPX90, Lexicon PCM70 è tc6000. â êà÷åñòâå ýôôåêò-ïðîöåññîðîâ - Eventide DSP4000/H8000FW, tc FireworX.
"I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation." Martin Luther King, Jr
https://soundcloud.com/andrew-klyushnikov
http://vk.com/akmix
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 01:05 



>Bricasti M7, AMS RMX16, Yamaha SPX90, Lexicon PCM70 è tc6000. â êà÷åñòâå ýôôåêò-ïðîöåññîðîâ - Eventide DSP4000/H8000FW, tc FireworX.
Ïðàâèëüíûé âûáîð, òîëüêî 70-é øóìíîâàò, ïîýòîìó ó ìåíÿ 81-é.
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 02:53 

Electric Guitar

You can try TC Electronics Flashback, bro.
I bought it, and im really glad i did! The looper is no longer the prime use of this pedal as i intended, i didnt tought that the delay effects would sound this nice. :super:
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 09:36 
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

>>Äà ïîëíî... âîò íàïðèìåð ñàìûé ÿðêî-øèïÿùèé âîêàë:
>>https://youtu.be/EBEirN5_jo8
>Âîò áóäåò ïðèêîë, åñëè òàì íà ñàìîì äåëå êàêîé-íèáóäü Space Designer

Ìíå êàæåòñÿ ýòî êà÷åñòâåííûé ðåâåð òàêèå êîñìè÷åñêèå òøèèèè - òøèèèè ))
øèïåíèÿ âûäà¸ò, ó äåø¸âîãî ðåâåðà, åñëè ââåðõ çàäðàòü, òî ìåòàëëè÷åñêèé çâóê áóäåò.
Âîò åù¸ ïðèìåð õîðîøî ñëûøíî íà æåíñêîì âîêàëå:

https://youtu.be/SKyFklhWe70
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 09:48 
Ìîñêâà
Fender Am Deluxe ProTools12

bumpup , ýòî ÷òî çà ñàòàíèçì?
Film-Post production. Music production. https://vk.com/dygai_band
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 12:02 
Ìîñêâà
Roland XP-80, Main Stage, Logic Pro

>îáû÷íî âåðõ ðåæóò âðîäå)

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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 13:36 
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Bricasti M7, tc6000.... ìå÷òà!
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 15:47 
Moscow


>Âîò åù¸ ïðèìåð õîðîøî ñëûøíî íà æåíñêîì âîêàëå:
> https://youtu.be/SKyFklhWe70

-- ×òî, íà ÝÒÎÌ ÷òî-òî îöåíèâàòü???????
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-- Ýý.... Àïïàðàòû, íå èìåþùèå íè÷åãî îáùåãî ìåæäó ñîáîé.
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 17:51 



>Ãàðìîíè÷åñêèé ýíõàíñåð
Ãàðìîíèêè ñïåêòðà, ýòî íå ãàðìîíèÿ ñäåëàííàÿ ïèò÷ øèôòåðîì...
ìåíüøå ÷èòàéòå âñÿêèå âèêèïåäèè, à òî áóäåò ãîðìîíè÷åñêîå ïåðåâîçáóæäåíèå:-)
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 18:08 



Ó÷èòåëÿ, ïîäè êàæäûé ìåñÿö íàâåùàåòå â ìàâçîëåå ?:-)
Õîòèòå ñîáðàíèå ñî÷èíåíèé âîæäÿ ?
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 18:21 



Õîðîøî. Îòñêàíèðóþ. Áóäåò ïðèìåðíî 32 òåðàáàéòà.
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 18:39 



Âñ¸, ïîø¸ë æàòü... Íî èìåéòå ââèäó, åñëè ó âàñ íå òî÷íî 220v, òî íè÷åãî íå ïîëó÷èòå.
Ìû ðàáîòàåì òîëüêî ñ ñåðòèôèöèðîâàííûìè ïîòðåáèòåëÿìè !
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 20:28 
Moscow


>íåìîãó! Â.È.Ë., Çàâåùàë ÷èòàòü!

-- Óãó. ÙÀÇÇÇ!
«Ó÷èòüñÿ, ó÷èòüñÿ è ó÷èòüñÿ» ÏÑÑ, ò. 45.
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