| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 12:38 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Èìååòñÿ âîò òàêîé íàáîð æåëåçîê êîòîðûå ñòîÿò ïðîñòî òàê óæå 2 ãîä, èç çà íåêîìïåòåíòíîñòè èíñòàëÿöèîííîé ôèðìû (ôèðìà â Ìîñêâå à ìû â ÕÌÀÎ-Þãðå òàê ÷òî âîò êàê òî òàê) DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD 3 ACCEL (1 ïëàòà HD Ñore + 2 ïëàòû HD Accel Process ), DIGIDESIGN CONTROL 24, DIGIDESIGN 192 I/O - 2 ïðèáîðà , DIGIDESIGN SYNC I/O, DIGIDESIGN MIDI I/O +++++++++++++++++++++ Apple [MA356] Mac Pro 2.66GHz Õîñò-ïëàòà DIGIDESIGN Host PCIe Øàññè ðàñøèðåíèÿ DIGIDESIGN Expansion|HD Expansion Chassis Õîñò-ïëàòà EXPRESSPCI UL5D DUAL-CHANNEL, ULTRA320, PCIe SCSI ïëþñ ñàìî ÏÎ Êàê âñ¸ ýòî çàïóñòèòü è â êàêîì ïîðÿäêå âñ¸ ýòî çàïóñêàòü? Ïîòîìó ÷òî íà ìîñêâè÷åé íàäåæäû íåò (íå â îáèäó) êîììóòàöèþ ïðîâåëè ñîãëàñíî äîêóìåíòàöèè, çàïóñê ïðîèçâîäèëè òîæå ïî èíñòðóêöèè íî pro tools çàïóñêàòüñÿ íå õî÷åò. áóäòå òàê äîáðû îáúÿñíèòå íà ïàëüöàõ |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 12:46 |
|
|---|---|---|
Ìîñêâà 
|
Êàêàÿ âåðñèÿ ÌàêÎÑ è êàêàÿ ÏðîÒóëç? | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 13:20 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
íèæíåâàðòîâñê Soundcraft MH4  
|
Mac OS 10.4.8 PT 7.6 | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 15:39 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà
|
õì... íè ðàçó ñ òàêîé âåðñèåé ïðîòóëçà íå âñòðå÷àëñÿ.. à ÷åëîâåêà "âûïèñàòü" ÷òîá îí âàì íàñòðîèë ñèñòåìó... íå ðàññìàòðèâàëè òàêîé âàðèàíò? |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 15:41 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
íèæíåâàðòîâñê Soundcraft MH4
|
Date/Time: 2009-12-03 17:49:06.296 +0500 OS Version: 10.4.11 (Build 8S2167) Report Version: 4 Command: Pro Tools HD Path: /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD Parent: WindowServer [63] Rosetta: Yes Version: 7.2 (7.2f146) PID: 235 Thread: Unknown Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000 Thread 0: 0 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb80a5308 0xb8000000 + 676616 1 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb809fb15 0xb8000000 + 654101 2 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb80bd72e 0xb8000000 + 775982 3 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb811eb4e spin_lock_wrapper + 3852 Thread 1: 0 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb822fa6b strchr + 72 1 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb81cb487 pthread_cond_wait + 3114 2 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb816765e catch_exception_raise_state_identity + 318 3 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb8166b9a CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 177124 4 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb8166a91 CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 176859 5 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb816775c catch_exception_raise_state_identity + 572 6 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb8200c00 pthread_create + 1124 Thread 2: 0 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb813431a spin_lock_wrapper + 91864 1 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb814d4b8 CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 72962 2 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb80c805c 0xb8000000 + 819292 Thread 3: 0 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb813431a spin_lock_wrapper + 91864 1 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb814d4b8 CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 72962 2 com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 0xb80c805c 0xb8000000 + 819292 Unknown thread crashed with i386 Thread State: eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0xb809f7ee ecx:0x00000000 edx: 0x00000000 edi: 0x80d1ad0c esi: 0x8200cf80 ebp:0xb7fff9f8 esp: 0xb7fff9f0 ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010246 eip:0xb80a5308 cs: 0x00000017 ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs:0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037 Binary Images Description: 0x1000 - 0x13f6fff com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 7.2 (7.2f146) /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD 0x1eac000 - 0x1ed0fff com.digidesign.framework.CFD 7.2 (7.2f146) /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/Frameworks/CFD.framework/Versions/A/CFD 0x1ee5000 - 0x1eedfff com.digidesign.framework.DMC 7.2 (7.2f146) /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/Frameworks/DMC.framework/Versions/A/DMC 0x1ef9000 - 0x1fb2fff com.digidesign.framework.DSI 7.2 (7.2f146) /Library/Frameworks/DSI.framework/Versions/A/DSI 0x1ff4000 - 0x1ff5fff libFicClockComponent.dylib /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/Frameworks/libFicClockComponent.dylib 0x2808000 - 0x28e2fff libOMFToolkit.dylib /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/Frameworks/libOMFToolkit.dylib 0x2a05000 - 0x2b0afff com.digidesign.framework.CoreFoundation 7.2 (7.2f146) /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/Frameworks/CFnd.framework/Versions/A/CFnd 0x2b90000 - 0x2d41fff com.digidesign.framework.DFW 7.2 (7.2f146) /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/Frameworks/DFW.framework/Versions/A/DFW 0x2e3a000 - 0x31f8fff com.digidesign.framework.FileFormat 7.2 (7.2f146) /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/Frameworks/FFmt.framework/Versions/A/FFmt 0x3621000 - 0x39eafff com.digidesign.framework.DAE 7.2 (7.2f146) /Library/Frameworks/DAE.framework/Versions/A/DAE 0x3d92000 - 0x3f23fff com.digidesign.framework.DHS 7.2 (7.2f146) /Library/Frameworks/DHS.framework/Versions/A/DHS 0x3f72000 - 0x42a3fff libNeoAccessPro.dylib /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/Frameworks/libNeoAccessPro.dylib 0x4368000 - 0x43c7fff com.digidesign.framework.DirectIO 7.2 (7.2f146) /Library/Frameworks/DirectIO.framework/Versions/A/DirectIO 0x46be000 - 0x46d6fff com.digidesign.framework.PlatformSupport 7.2 (7.2f146) /Library/Frameworks/DigiPlatformSupport.framework/Versions/A/DigiPlatformSupport 0x46e7000 - 0x5160fff libil.dylib /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/Frameworks/libil.dylib 0x7b36000 - 0x7b8afff com.digidesign.framework.DUI 7.2 (7.2f146) /Library/Frameworks/DUI.framework/Versions/A/DUI 0x7b9e000 - 0x7becfff com.digidesign.framework.DSPManager 7.2 (7.2f146) /Library/Frameworks/DSPManager.framework/Versions/A/DSPManager 0x8808000 - 0x88a1fff [Unknown Bundle] [Unknown Bundle] 0x8a95000 - 0x8b2efff [Unknown Bundle] [Unknown Bundle] 0x18f65000 - 0x18ffefff [Unknown Bundle] [Unknown Bundle] 0x19582000 - 0x1961bfff [Unknown Bundle] [Unknown Bundle] 0x1bb6e000 - 0x1bb78fff com.apple.iokit.IOUSBLib 2.7.5 /System/Library/Extensions/IOUSBFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle/Contents/MacOS/IOUSBLib 0x8fc00000 - 0x8fc50fff dyld 46.16 /usr/lib/dyld 0x8fe00000 - 0x8fe4afff dyld 46.16 /usr/lib/dyld 0x90000000 - 0x901c0fff libSystem.B.dylib /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib 0x90218000 - 0x9021dfff libmathCommon.A.dylib /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib 0x9021f000 - 0x90261fff com.apple.CoreText 1.1.3 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText 0x90289000 - 0x9036dfff ATS /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS 0x90396000 - 0x90758fff com.apple.CoreGraphics 1.258.85 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics 0x907e7000 - 0x908befff com.apple.CoreFoundation 6.4.11 (368.35) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation 0x90905000 - 0x90905fff com.apple.CoreServices 10.4 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices 0x90907000 - 0x90a10fff libicucore.A.dylib /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib 0x90a61000 - 0x90ae4fff libobjc.A.dylib /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib 0x90b0d000 - 0x90b7ffff libstdc++.6.dylib /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib 0x90bf2000 - 0x90bfdfff libgcc_s.1.dylib /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib 0x90c02000 - 0x90c77fff com.apple.framework.IOKit 1.4.8 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit 0x90c8d000 - 0x90ca1fff libauto.dylib /usr/lib/libauto.dylib 0x90ca7000 - 0x90f72fff com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 682.31 (682.32) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore 0x90fcf000 - 0x91048fff com.apple.CoreServices.OSServices 4.1 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices 0x9108b000 - 0x910ccfff com.apple.CFNetwork 129.24 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork 0x910e0000 - 0x910f4fff com.apple.WebServices 1.1.3 (1.1.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/WebServicesCore.framework/Versions/A/WebServicesCore 0x91100000 - 0x91192fff com.apple.SearchKit 1.0.8 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit 0x911ce000 - 0x911eefff com.apple.Metadata 10.4.4 (121.36) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata 0x911fb000 - 0x9120afff libz.1.dylib /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib 0x9120d000 - 0x913c2fff com.apple.security 4.5.2 (29774) /System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/Security 0x914bf000 - 0x914c8fff com.apple.DiskArbitration 2.1.2 /System/Library/Frameworks/DiskArbitration.framework/Versions/A/DiskArbitration 0x914cf000 - 0x914d7fff libbsm.dylib /usr/lib/libbsm.dylib 0x914db000 - 0x91503fff com.apple.SystemConfiguration 1.8.6 /System/Library/Frameworks/SystemConfiguration.framework/Versions/A/SystemConfiguration 0x91515000 - 0x9158efff com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 3.0.5 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/A/CoreAudio 0x915d8000 - 0x915d8fff com.apple.ApplicationServices 10.4 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices 0x915da000 - 0x9160dfff com.apple.AE 316.3 /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE 0x91623000 - 0x91700fff com.apple.ColorSync 4.4.13 /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync 0x9173f000 - 0x917c0fff com.apple.print.framework.PrintCore 4.6 (177.13) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore 0x917fd000 - 0x918affff com.apple.QD 3.10.28 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD 0x918e4000 - 0x9193afff com.apple.HIServices 1.5.2 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices 0x91962000 - 0x9197cfff com.apple.LangAnalysis 1.6.3 /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis 0x9198a000 - 0x919aafff com.apple.FindByContent 1.5 /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FindByContent.framework/Versions/A/FindByContent 0x919b7000 - 0x919f3fff com.apple.LaunchServices 183.1 /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices 0x91a0b000 - 0x91a19fff com.apple.speech.synthesis.framework 3.5 /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis 0x91a21000 - 0x91a60fff com.apple.ImageIO.framework 1.5.9 /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO 0x91a75000 - 0x91b38fff libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib 0x91b83000 - 0x91b98fff libcups.2.dylib /usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib 0x91b9d000 - 0x91bbdfff libJPEG.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libJPEG.dylib 0x91bc2000 - 0x91c22fff libJP2.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libJP2.dylib 0x91c34000 - 0x91c38fff libGIF.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libGIF.dylib 0x91c3a000 - 0x91ca7fff libRaw.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libRaw.dylib 0x91cac000 - 0x91cc8fff libPng.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libPng.dylib 0x91ccd000 - 0x91ccffff libRadiance.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libRadiance.dylib 0x91cd1000 - 0x91dbffff libxml2.2.dylib /usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib 0x91dde000 - 0x91e1ffff libTIFF.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libTIFF.dylib 0x91e25000 - 0x91e25fff com.apple.Accelerate 1.3.1 (Accelerate 1.3.1) /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Accelerate 0x91e27000 - 0x91f0dfff com.apple.vImage 2.5 /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vImage.framework/Versions/A/vImage 0x91f15000 - 0x91f34fff com.apple.Accelerate.vecLib 3.3.1 (vecLib 3.3.1) /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/vecLib 0x91fa0000 - 0x9202cfff libvMisc.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libvMisc.dylib 0x92038000 - 0x920cffff libvDSP.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libvDSP.dylib 0x920e8000 - 0x92695fff libBLAS.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libBLAS.dylib 0x926c8000 - 0x929f3fff libLAPACK.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libLAPACK.dylib 0x92a23000 - 0x92b12fff libiconv.2.dylib /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib 0x92b15000 - 0x92b9bfff com.apple.DesktopServices 1.3.7 /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/DesktopServicesPriv 0x92bdd000 - 0x92e19fff com.apple.Foundation 6.4.12 (567.42) /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation 0x92f42000 - 0x92f62fff libGL.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGL.dylib 0x92f6d000 - 0x92fc9fff libGLU.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGLU.dylib 0x92fdf000 - 0x92fdffff com.apple.Carbon 10.4 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon 0x92fe1000 - 0x92ff6fff com.apple.ImageCapture 3.0.4 /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture 0x93007000 - 0x93012fff com.apple.speech.recognition.framework 3.6 /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition 0x9301a000 - 0x93023fff com.apple.securityhi 2.0.1 (24742) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI 0x9302b000 - 0x930befff com.apple.ink.framework 101.2.1 (71) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink 0x930d3000 - 0x930d8fff com.apple.help 1.0.3 (32.1) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help 0x930dc000 - 0x930fefff com.apple.openscripting 1.2.7 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting 0x93112000 - 0x9311afff com.apple.print.framework.Print 5.2 (192.4) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print 0x93121000 - 0x9318afff com.apple.htmlrendering 66.1 (1.1.3) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HTMLRendering.framework/Versions/A/HTMLRendering 0x931b3000 - 0x931fbfff com.apple.NavigationServices 3.4.4 (3.4.3) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/NavigationServices.framework/Versions/A/NavigationServices 0x93225000 - 0x93236fff com.apple.audio.SoundManager 3.9.1 /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonSound.framework/Versions/A/CarbonSound 0x9323f000 - 0x93246fff com.apple.CommonPanels 1.2.3 (73) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels 0x9324c000 - 0x93573fff com.apple.HIToolbox 1.4.10 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox 0x936a8000 - 0x936b5fff com.apple.opengl 1.4.16 /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/OpenGL 0x94119000 - 0x9418dfff com.apple.CoreData 91 (92.1) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData 0x941c7000 - 0x94286fff com.apple.audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 1.4.7 /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/Versions/A/AudioToolbox 0x942ca000 - 0x942cafff com.apple.audio.units.AudioUnit 1.4.2 /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioUnit.framework/Versions/A/AudioUnit 0x942cc000 - 0x9447ffff com.apple.QuartzCore 1.4.12 /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/Versions/A/QuartzCore 0x944c8000 - 0x94508fff libsqlite3.0.dylib /usr/lib/libsqlite3.0.dylib 0x94510000 - 0x94554fff libGLImage.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGLImage.dylib 0x9455b000 - 0x94574fff com.apple.CoreVideo 1.4.2 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreVideo.framework/Versions/A/CoreVideo 0x9470e000 - 0x9471ffff libCGATS.A.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libCGATS.A.dylib 0x94726000 - 0x94733fff libCSync.A.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libCSync.A.dylib 0x94783000 - 0x9479dfff libRIP.A.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libRIP.A.dylib 0x947a4000 - 0x94ad7fff com.apple.QuickTime 7.6.4 (1327.73) /System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Versions/A/QuickTime 0x95a23000 - 0x95a24fff libCyrillicConverter.dylib /System/Library/CoreServices/Encodings/libCyrillicConverter.dylib 0x95fda000 - 0x96013fff com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 1.5.1 (41) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMIDI.framework/Versions/A/CoreMIDI 0x963f5000 - 0x96414fff com.apple.vecLib 3.3.1 (vecLib 3.3.1) /System/Library/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/vecLib 0x96bc6000 - 0x96bd3fff com.apple.agl 2.5.9 (AGL-2.5.9) /System/Library/Frameworks/AGL.framework/Versions/A/AGL 0x97ffc000 - 0x98c35fff com.apple.QuickTimeComponents.component 7.6.4 (1327.73) /System/Library/QuickTime/QuickTimeComponents.component/Contents/MacOS/QuickTimeComponents 0x9a180000 - 0x9a208fff com.tcltk.tcllibrary 8.4.7 a /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Tcl 0x9b6d9000 - 0x9b6dbfff Interposers.dylib /usr/libexec/oah/Shims/Interposers.dylib 0x9ff40000 - 0x9ffe2fff com.apple.QuickTimeImporters.component 7.6.4 (1327.73) /System/Library/QuickTime/QuickTimeImporters.component/Contents/MacOS/QuickTimeImporters 0xb8000000 - 0xb82d6fff com.digidesign.ProToolsHD 7.2 (7.2f146) /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD Translated Code Information: Rosetta Version: 17.26 Args: /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD -psn_0_3801089 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Thread 0: Crashed (0xb7fff9f0, 0xb80a5308) 0x02c751bc: @executable_path/../Frameworks/DFW.framework/Versions/A/DFW : __ZN12TApplication31GetApplicationVersionComponentsEP14Cmn_PolyVectorIlE + 0x4c 0x00880504: /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD : ___darwin_gcc3_preregister_frame_info + 0x87d684 0x00881978: /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD : ___darwin_gcc3_preregister_frame_info + 0x87eaf8 0x00d70114: /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD : ___darwin_gcc3_preregister_frame_info + 0xd6d294 0x000027b8: /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD : start + 0x198 0x0000265c: /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD : start + 0x3c 0x0c0700b8: No symbol PPC Thread State srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x00000000 vrsave: 0x00000000 cr: 0xXXXXXXXX xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x02c751bc ctr: 0x90003460 r00: 0x02c751bc r01: 0xbffff120 r02: 0x0000029d r03: 0x00000000 r04: 0x0000002e r05: 0x00000000 r06: 0xa07ead58 r07: 0x73696f6e r08: 0x73696f6e r09: 0x07c09c84 r10: 0x00000000 r11: 0x42008028 r12: 0x90003460 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000 r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0xbffff282 r23: 0x01430000 r24: 0x032c92d4 r25: 0xa0b1bd9c r26: 0x1cd1a320 r27: 0xbffff1e8 r28: 0xbffff2d0 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0xbffff1e8 r31: 0x02c75180 Thread 1: (0xb011adf0, 0xb813431a) 0x9007238c: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib : _pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 0x1ec 0x90d15970: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore : _TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 0xbc 0x90d214a4: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore : _DeferredTaskThread + 0x44 0x9002c768: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib : __pthread_body + 0x60 0x00000000: /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD : + 0x0 PPC Thread State srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x00000000 vrsave: 0x00000000 cr: 0xXXXXXXXX xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x900723c8 ctr: 0x900553c0 r00: 0xffffffd9 r01: 0xf0101ce0 r02: 0xa0001fc4 r03: 0x00002e03 r04: 0x00003203 r05: 0x0000003c r06: 0x00000000 r07: 0x005b8d80 r08: 0xc871efbc r09: 0x00000001 r10: 0xf0101df8 r11: 0xa0006b5c r12: 0x900553c0 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000 r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000 r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0xa00021b4 r26: 0xa0ca7af0 r27: 0xa0ca7b24 r28: 0xf0101df8 r29: 0xa0001fc4 r30: 0xa0001fc4 r31: 0x900721b4 Thread 2: (0xb0099df0, 0xb813431a) 0x9007238c: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib : _pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 0x1ec 0x90d15970: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore : _TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 0xbc 0x90d1d620: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore : _TimerThread + 0x48 0x9002c768: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib : __pthread_body + 0x60 0x00000000: /Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools HD.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools HD : + 0x0 PPC Thread State srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x00000000 vrsave: 0x00000000 cr: 0xXXXXXXXX xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x900723c8 ctr: 0x900553c0 r00: 0xffffffd9 r01: 0xf0080cb0 r02: 0xa0001fc4 r03: 0x00002f03 r04: 0x00003003 r05: 0x0000003c r06: 0x00000000 r07: 0xc816bbb9 r08: 0x00000000 r09: 0x00000001 r10: 0xf0080dc8 r11: 0xa0006b5c r12: 0x900553c0 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000 r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0xa0cad5e8 r23: 0xa0ca7b50 r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0xa00021b4 r26: 0xa0ca7b84 r27: 0xa0ca7bb8 r28: 0xf0080dc8 r29: 0xa0001fc4 r30: 0xa0001fc4 r31: 0x900721b4 Model: MacPro1,1, BootROM MP11.005C.B08, 4 processors, Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 2.66 GHz, 1 GB Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT, NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT, PCIe, 256 MB Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 1, 512 MB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 667 MHz Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 2, 512 MB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 667 MHz Network Service: Âñòðîåííûé Ethernet 1, Ethernet, en0 Network Service: Âñòðîåííûé Ethernet 2, Ethernet, en1 PCI Card: pci-bridge, sppci_pci2pcibridge, Slot-4 PCI Card: pci-bridge, sppci_pci2pcibridge, Slot-4 PCI Card: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT, Display, Slot-1 Serial ATA Device: WDC WD2500JS-41SGB0, 232.89 GB Parallel ATA Device: OPTIARC DVD RW AD-7170A USB Device: Hub, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA USB Device: Apple Cinema HD Display, Apple Computer, Inc., Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA USB Device: Digidesign USB MIDI Device, Digidesign, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA USB Device: Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA USB Device: Apple Optical USB Mouse, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 100 mA USB Device: Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 250 mA USB Device: iLok, iLok, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 500 mA FireWire Device: built-in_hub, unknown_value, Unknown FireWire Device: unknown_device, unknown_value, Unknown 
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 15:44 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
íèæíåâàðòîâñê Soundcraft MH4
|
ýòî ïðè âûêëþ÷åííîì æåëåçå | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 15:59 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñåâàñòîïîëü 
|
îé-éî... | |
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZWRxTCIH2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGje6mctCXc https://www.realmusic.ru/albums/32323 |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 16:25 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà
|
>OS Version: 10.4.11 Ïðîòóëç ïîñâåæåå ïîñòàâüòå..... |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 16:34 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà
|
||
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 18:30 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
íèæíåâàðòîâñê Soundcraft MH4
|
Ó íàñ äàæå ýòîò íå çàïóñòèëñÿ íè ðàçó,âîò òàê ñòîèò æåëåçî ïûëü ñîáèðàåò. à ïî ñâåæåå ýòî ìîæíî è îáíîâèòü à åñòü òåëåôîí ôèðìû èëè ÷åëîâåêà êîòîðûé â ýòîì øàðèò?? |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 18:38 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Moscow
|
iLok çàðåãèñòèðèðîâàí, âêëþ÷åí? Ëèöåíçèè â ilok ïðîïèñàíû? | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 18:40 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà
|
ïèøèòå â ëè÷êó.. | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2009 21:34 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
íèæíåâàðòîâñê Soundcraft MH4
|
îòïèñàëñÿ | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 04.12.2009 15:46 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
íèæíåâàðòîâñê Soundcraft MH4
|
à êîíñîëü íàäî çàâîäèòü â ìàñ èëè â EXRANSION HD | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 04.12.2009 20:51 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Áàëàøèõà Protools11, çâóêîðåæèññóðà, áàñ, âèîëîí÷åëü.
|
Ïîèãðàéñÿ ñ ñî÷åòàíèÿìè âåðñèè ñèñòåìû è âåðñèè ÏÒ. Ó ìåíÿ íà ðàáîòå 7.4 HD îòëè÷íî ðàáîòàåò. Âîò èíôî ñ ñàéòà äèãèäåçèãí: Pro Tools|HD & Pro Tools|HD Accel Systems Pro Tools HD 7.4 is officially supported on Mac OS X 10.4.9 for PowerPC & Intel-based Macs Pro Tools HD 7.3 is officially supported on Mac OS X 10.4.8 and 10.4.9 for PowerPC & Intel-based Macs Pro Tools HD 7.2.1 is officially supported on Mac OS X 10.4.7 and 10.4.8 for Intel-based Macs Pro Tools HD 7.2 is officially supported on Mac OS X 10.4.6, 10.4.7, and 10.4.8 for PowerPC-based Macs |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 04.12.2009 21:43 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñåâàñòîïîëü
|
ïðîòóëç - êàéô... | |
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZWRxTCIH2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGje6mctCXc https://www.realmusic.ru/albums/32323 |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 03:07 |
|
|---|---|---|
Saint-Petersburg
|
Îãî ÷åãî ïî áàíàëüíîìó ïîèñêó íàøëîñü! | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 03:08 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Saint-Petersburg
|
Êòî-íèáóäü çíàåò, ÷åì äåëî çàêîí÷èëîñü? | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 07:53 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêî õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð 
|
>ïðîòóëç - êàéô... ".... è áûë ñëàùå ìåäà, ïüÿíåå, ÷åì âèíî...." (Ñ) â ÷åì êàéô òî?  ó ìåíÿ íà õàêå ÏÒ 8 ðàáîòàë êðÿêíóòûé - íèêàêîãî êàéôà ÏÒ - ýòî òîëüêî äåíüãè, äåíüãè è äåíüãè ÷òîáû áîëåå ìåíåå âñå çâó÷àëî è äåëàëîñÿ 
|
|
|
" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 11:26 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ 
|
> à êîíñîëü íàäî çàâîäèòü â ìàñ èëè â EXRANSION HD Êîíñîëü ñòàíäàðòíûì ñåòåâûì (êàê ó èíòåðíåòà) ïðîâîäà íàäî âòûêàòü ïðÿìî â ìàê. À íàñ÷åò îñòàëüíîãî - ñêîðåå âñåãî êàêàÿ-òî ïðîñòàÿ îøèáêà - èáî íè÷åãî ñëîæíîãî â ïîäêëþ÷åíèè ïðîòóëçà íåò, íåíàìíîãî ñëîæíåå, ÷åì ëþáóþ äðóãóþ âíóòðåííþþ çâóêîâóþ êàðòó: 1. Âñòàâèòü ïëàòû âíóòðü êîìïüþòåðà (ýêñïàíøí ÷àñèñ âàì ïîêà ìîæíî íå òðîãàòü, òðè ðàçúåìà â ìàê ïðî åñòü) 2. Ñîåäèíèòü èõ øòàòíûìè êîðîòåíüêèìè ïðîâîä î÷êàìè-øèíàìè âíóòðè êîìïà 3. Ñîåäèíèòü ÷åðíûì ðîäíûì ïðîòóëçîâñêèì ïðîâîäîì ðàçúåì ñçàäè ïëàòû Core äëÿ íà÷àëà îäèí ñèíèé âíåøíèé áëîê (192 êîòîðûé, êîãäà çàðàáîòàåò îäèí, ïîäêëþ÷èòå âòîðîé òàê æå). Îøèáèòüñÿ íåâîçìîæíî, èáî ïðîâîä âîòêíåòñÿ òîëüêî òóäà, êóäà ìîæíî. 4. Ïîñòàâèòü ïðîãðàììó. Äåëàë ýòî íåñêîëüêî ðàç - íè ðàçó íèêàêèõ ïðîáëåì íå áûëî. Ñåìåðêà ïðåêðàñíî ðàáîòàëà. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 14:33 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
7êà ðàáîòàåò ïèïåö êàê ñòàáèëüíî)))) 
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 19:44 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
> ÏÒ - ýòî òîëüêî äåíüãè, äåíüãè è äåíüãè ÷òîáû áîëåå ìåíåå âñå çâó÷àëî è äåëàëîñÿ ÏÒ - ëó÷øàÿ ïðîãðàììà. Î÷åíü óäîáíàÿ, çâó÷èò ëó÷øå âñåõ îñòàëüíûõ èç ïîïóëÿðíûõ. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 19:59 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Íå õî÷ó áûòü äâîðÿíêîé ñòîëáîâîé, à õî÷ó áûòü öàðèöåþ ìîðñêîé! | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 20:05 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêî õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð
|
>> ÏÒ - ýòî òîëüêî äåíüãè, äåíüãè è äåíüãè ÷òîáû áîëåå ìåíåå âñå çâó÷àëî è äåëàëîñÿ >ÏÒ - ëó÷øàÿ ïðîãðàììà. Î÷åíü óäîáíàÿ, çâó÷èò ëó÷øå âñåõ îñòàëüíûõ èç ïîïóëÿðíûõ. Åñëè ÏÒ - ëó÷øàÿ ïðîãà, òî çíà÷èò åñòü è õóäøèå? >Íå õî÷ó áûòü äâîðÿíêîé ñòîëáîâîé, à õî÷ó áûòü öàðèöåþ ìîðñêîé! ôèãóøêè, ôèãóøêè, ôèãóøêè 
|
|
|
" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 20:16 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
>Åñëè ÏÒ - ëó÷øàÿ ïðîãà, òî çíà÷èò åñòü è õóäøèå? Áîëåå ëó÷øàÿ. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 22:03 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
ùàñ ïîõîäó îïÿòü íà÷íåòñÿ) íå... ïî óäîáñòâó íå ñàìàÿ óäîáíàÿ. Ïðîâåðåííî))) |
|
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 23:23 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêî õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð
|
>>Åñëè ÏÒ - ëó÷øàÿ ïðîãà, òî çíà÷èò åñòü è õóäøèå? >Áîëåå ëó÷øàÿ. Ýòî êàê îñåòðèíà ïåðâîé è âòîðîé ñâåæåñòè. Âñå ïðîãè õîðîøè, "áûâàþò ëèøü ìóæ÷èíû òàê ñåáå" (Ñ) >ùàñ ïîõîäó îïÿòü íà÷íåòñÿ) >íå... ïî óäîáñòâó íå ñàìàÿ óäîáíàÿ. Ïðîâåðåííî))) Åñëè êîìó óäîáíî, ïæëñòà ðàáîòàéòå. Íî âåäü íåëüçÿ ãîâîðèòü, ÷òî óäîáíî âñåì. 
|
|
|
" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2012 23:27 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñåâàñòîïîëü
|
ß íà ñòîðîíå Âèíäû,åñè÷î 
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZWRxTCIH2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGje6mctCXc https://www.realmusic.ru/albums/32323 |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 01:01 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
>ß íà ñòîðîíå Âèíäû,åñè÷î À ÿ çà Íåìöîâà. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 01:02 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
íå íó òåìà æå ãëóïûå âîïðîñûû))) | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 01:04 |
|
|---|---|---|
Ìîñêâà
|
>>ß íà ñòîðîíå Âèíäû,åñè÷î > À ÿ çà Íåìöîâà. >íå íó òåìà æå ãëóïûå âîïðîñûû))) âîâî! )) à íå ãëóïûå îòâåòû )))) |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 01:09 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
>ùàñ ïîõîäó îïÿòü íà÷íåòñÿ) < > íå... ïî óäîáñòâó íå ñàìàÿ óäîáíàÿ. Ïðîâåðåííî)))< êñòàòè à êàêàÿ ñàìàÿ ñàìàÿ??? |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 01:18 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
>êàêàÿ ñàìàÿ Íó, îáúåêòèâíî åñëè, òî Êóáýéñ (ÿ áåç øóòîê). |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 01:21 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
>êñòàòè à êàêàÿ ñàìàÿ ñàìàÿ??? Êñòàòè, à â Êóáå åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü êàê â Ïðîòóëçå ïëàãèíû êàê ïÿòíàøêè ïåðåäâèãàòü è êîïèðîâàòü âíóòðè êàíàëà ñ ìåñòà íà ìåñòî è ìåæäó êàíàëàìè, øèíàìè è ò.ï. Î÷åíü óäîáíàÿ øòóêà. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 01:30 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà keyboards, piano, ProTools 
|
>Êñòàòè, à â Êóáå åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü êàê â Ïðîòóëçå ïëàãèíû êàê ïÿòíàøêè ïåðåäâèãàòü è êîïèðîâàòü âíóòðè êàíàëà ñ ìåñòà íà ìåñòî è ìåæäó êàíàëàìè, øèíàìè è ò.ï. Î÷åíü óäîáíàÿ øòóêà. Íà÷èíàÿ ñ 4-é âåðñèè - ìîæíî. |
|
|
ÇÐ ñòóäèè Â. Îñèíñêîãî
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 01:35 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
à â êóáå ìîæíî àóäèî òðåêè ïðèâÿçàòü ê òåìïî òðåêó è âñå òðåêè îäíîâðåìåííî çàìåäëÿòü èëè óáûñòðÿòü òèïà äàâàòü äâèæèíèå òèïà æèâàãî ))) íó êàê ñ ìèäè òîëüêî ñ àóäèî??)) |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 01:43 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
åñëè ÷î òî ÿ ñïðàøèâàë)))?? 
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 02:54 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà keyboards, piano, ProTools
|
Ïî èäåå ìîæíî, åñëè â àóäèîôàéëàõ òåìï âûñòàâèòü, íî ñàì íå ïðîâåðÿë. Â StudioOne ïðîäåëûâàë òàêóþ îïåðàöèþ - êàê-òî íóæíî áûëî ôèãóðèñòàì ïëàâíî ðàçîãíàòü ôîíîãðàììó åäèíèö íà 10. | |
|
ÇÐ ñòóäèè Â. Îñèíñêîãî
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 09:35 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
çíà÷èò íå ñàìàÿ?) ïðîâåðåíî?))
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 11:07 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
Ñàìàÿ óäîáíàÿ, ýòî êîíå÷íîæå Excel. ß òîëüêî òàì ñ ìèäè ðàáîòàþ)) Íó à òàê, ñîíàð. íó ýòî â ñðàâíåíèè ñ êóáåéñîì è ïò. åñëè ÷èñòî ïî APC áðàòü ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå. êóü íà âòîðîì, ïò íà òðåòüåì â ýòîé òðîéêå. áûëàá âîçìîæíîñòü â ïò êñòîìàéçèòü êëàâèøè, âîçìîæíî îíà áûëà áû áîëåå äåìîêðàòè÷íåå êóáà. íî ñ îäíîé ñòîðîíû õîðîøî, ÷òî â ïò ïðèâÿçêà êëàâèøü ñîõðàíÿòñÿ èç ïîêîëåíèÿ â ïîêîëåíèå, àâòîðèòàðèçì ïðèçíàê ëèäåðñòâà)) |
|
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 12:27 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
äà íà âêóñ è öâåò))))
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 12:58 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
>äà íà âêóñ è öâåò)))) À íà ñëóõ?
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 14:04 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
à íà ñëóõ îáúåêòèâíî îöåíèèòü ïîìîåìó àíðèàëüíî. äà è ýòî âàùå òóïîñòü ïî-ìîåìó. åäèíñòâåííîå ðåïðåçåíòàòèâíîå ñîðåâíîâàíèå ïðîãðàìì ýòî ñâîäêà îäíîãî è òîãîæå ìàòåðèàëà â íåñêîëüêèõ æàíðîâ è ðàíæèðîâàíèå, ïðè÷åì ðàíæèðîâàíèå ãåíåðàëüíîé âûáîðêè íå ìåíåå 70-80% äàñò îáúåêòèâíûé îòâåò êòî "ïî ñëóõó" ëó÷øèé. íî âñå òàêèå òåñòû êîí÷àëèñü ñïîðàìè â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå, ïî-ìîåìó =) îíî è ëîãè÷íî. Ìóçûêà è ëþäè. | |
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 18:29 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
> à íà ñëóõ îáúåêòèâíî îöåíèèòü ïîìîåìó àíðèàëüíî Ïîëîâèíà ìîèõ çíàêîìûõ çâóêîðåæèññåðîâ è ïîëîâèíà ãèàðñëàòñà ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ïðîòóëç ÕÄ ìåíüøå ïîðòèò çâóê, ÷åì îñòàëüíûå èç ïîïóëÿðíûõ. Äàæå íà ýòîì ôîðóìå íåñêîëüêî ó÷àñòíèêîâ òàê æå ñ÷èòàþò. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 18:42 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
moscow mouse
|
>Ïîëîâèíà ìîèõ çíàêîìûõ çâóêîðåæèññåðîâ è ïîëîâèíà ãèàðñëàòñà ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ïðîòóëç ÕÄ ìåíüøå ïîðòèò çâóê, ÷åì îñòàëüíûå èç ïîïóëÿðíûõ. Äàæå íà ýòîì ôîðóìå íåñêîëüêî ó÷àñòíèêîâ òàê æå ñ÷èòàþò. èíòåðåñíî ÷òî äåëàåò â ýòîò ìîìåíò(â òîò ìîìåíòà êîãäà ïîëîâèíà ãîâîðèò ïðî ïîð÷ó çâóêà) îñòàëüíàÿ ïîëîâèíà Âàøèõ çíàêîìûõ çâóêîðåæèññåðîâ è îñòàëüíàÿ ïîëâèíà ãèàðñëàòçà??? ) Äóìàþ - òóïî ðàáîòàþò è äóìàþ, òóïî íà äîñòóïíîì õîñòå - èáî èòîãîâîâûé ðåçóëüòàò îïðåäåëÿåò òî, ÷òî ñòîÈò äî ìèêðîôîíà è íåìíîãî òî ÷òî ñîåäèíÿåò îáøèâêó ñòóëà ñ êðóòèëêîé ãðîìêîñòè ìîíèòîðîâ |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 18:48 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
Íó "äèñòîðøí" êàê áû òîæå ïîðòèò çâóê,îñîáåííî ó òåõ êòî èãðàòü íå óìååò))à â ýëåêòðîííîé ìóçûêå íàïðèìåð,êàê çâóê èñïîðòèòü,âåäü åãî äàæå â ïðèðîäå íå ñóùåñòâóåò èíîãäà.âñå ðóëèò ÷åë.íî ïò áåçóñëîâíî ëèäåð ïî ïîíÿòíûì ïðè÷èíàì. | |
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 18:57 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
moscow mouse
|
>Íó "äèñòîðøí" êàê áû òîæå ïîðòèò çâóê,îñîáåííî ó òåõ êòî èãðàòü íå óìååò))à â ýëåêòðîííîé ìóçûêå íàïðèìåð,êàê çâóê èñïîðòèòü,âåäü åãî äàæå â ïðèðîäå íå ñóùåñòâóåò èíîãäà.âñå ðóëèò ÷åë.íî ïò áåçóñëîâíî ëèäåð ïî ïîíÿòíûì ïðè÷èíàì. à îáúÿñíèå - êàêèå ïðè÷èíû ïîíÿòíûå? ß âîò íàïðèìåð çíàþ ÷òî ëèäåð ïî çàïèñè õîðîøåé ìóçûêè äî ñèõ ïîð ìàãíèòîôîí ìíîãîäîðîæå÷íûé â êëàññè÷åñêóþ ýïîõó - ýòî íå êîãäà ðàäè çâóêà òóäà ïèñàëè - à êîãà âàðèàíòà öèôðû è íå áûëî ïî ñóòè. Òàê âîò òîò ñàìûé ìàãíèòîôîí ïðîñëàâëåííûé èìåë î÷åíü ïëîõèå â ñðàâíåíèè ñ öèôðîé íîìèíàëüíûå òåõíè÷åñêèå õàðàêåðèñòèòêè - îäíàêî æå ìóçàöèÿ âàëèëà âîâñþ. Ê ÷åìó ÿ ýòî? Íåò, ÿ íå ïðèçûâàþ çàïèñûâàòü íà ìàãíèòîôîí(îõ îí ìåíÿ ïîðÿäêîì äîñòàë), íî êàêáå íàìåêàþ ÷òî è ïðè ãîðàçäî áîëåå ñêîðìíûõ òåõíè÷åñêèõ âîçìîæíîñòÿõ(ïîìíèòå åùå îãðàíè÷åííîå êîëè÷åñòâî êàíàëîâ, îñûïàþùóþñÿ ëåíòó, øóì, íåîâîçìîæíîñòü ìíîãîêðàòíîãî îáúåäèíåíèÿ êàíàëîâ ñ öåëüþ âûñâîáîæäåíèÿ äîðîã áåç ïîð÷è òåõíè÷åñêî çâóêà è îãðîìíîå íåóäîáñòâî â ìîíòàæå) óäàëîñü çàïèñàòü âñþ êëàññèêó ìóçûêè, äî êîòîðîé îëüøèíñòâó ñîâðåìåííûõ çàïèñåé ñëîæíî äîòÿíóòüñÿ â ñèëó ïðàâäà îòíþäü íå òåõíè÷åñêèõ ïðè÷èí, íî ÷àñòî ýòîò ðàçðûâ êîñâåííî ñâÿçàí èìåííî ñ ðàçâèòèåì òåõíîëîãèé äëÿ êðèâîðó÷åê è ëåíòÿåâ |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 20:52 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
Ëèäåð ïî çàïèñè õîðîøåé ìóçûêè,ýòî îïÿòü æå ÷åëîâåê.âåäü íåîñïîðèìî òî,÷òî çàïèñàâ íà ìàãíèòîôîí áåçäàðÿ õîðîøåé ìóçûêè ìû íå óñëûøèì.ïò õîðîøî âæèëñÿ â ýðó âûñîêèõ òåõíîëîãèé.ýòî öåëîå ðåøåíèå,à íå ýëåìåíò.ìàãíèòîôîí æå êàêèì áû îí íè áûë îñòàíåòñÿ ëèøü ýëåìåíòîì â ïðîåêöèè çâóêîçàïèñè è âîñïðîèçâåäåíèÿ. | |
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 22:13 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
moscow mouse
|
>Ëèäåð ïî çàïèñè õîðîøåé ìóçûêè,ýòî îïÿòü æå ÷åëîâåê.âåäü íåîñïîðèìî òî,÷òî çàïèñàâ íà ìàãíèòîôîí áåçäàðÿ õîðîøåé ìóçûêè ìû íå óñëûøèì.ïò õîðîøî âæèëñÿ â ýðó âûñîêèõ òåõíîëîãèé.ýòî öåëîå ðåøåíèå,à íå ýëåìåíò.ìàãíèòîôîí æå êàêèì áû îí íè áûë îñòàíåòñÿ ëèøü ýëåìåíòîì â ïðîåêöèè çâóêîçàïèñè è âîñïðîèçâåäåíèÿ. òîãäà îáúÿñíèòå, ïî÷åìó íà âñåãî ëèøü ýëåìåíòå ðåçóëüàòò ëó÷øå(â îáúåêèâíîì à íå òåõíè÷åñêîì ñìûñëå) íà öåëîì êîìïëåêñå.) |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 23:06 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
> òîãäà îáúÿñíèòå, ïî÷åìó íà âñåãî ëèøü ýëåìåíòå ðåçóëüàòò ëó÷øå(â îáúåêèâíîì à íå òåõíè÷åñêîì ñìûñëå) íà öåëîì êîìïëåêñå.) Åñòü íåñêîëüêî òåîðèé, ùàñ âñïîìíþ ïàðî÷êó: 1.  ñåìèäåñÿòûå ìóçûêà øëà "ñíèçó", îò äóøè, íå áûëî ïðîäþñåðîâ (áûëè ìåíåäæåðû, ïîìîãàâøèå íèçîâûì òàëàíòàì ðàñêðóòèòüñÿ). À òåïåðü - ìóçûêà èäåò îò ïðîäþñåðîâ, ñâåðõó. 2. Ïèðàòñòâî. Íåò äåíåã îò ïðîäàæ äèñêîâ - è òàëàíòëèâûå è àìáèöèîçíûå ëþäè íå íàïðÿãàþòñÿ ðàäè ãðîøåé, ïëþñ íå ïðèâëåêàåòñÿ îãðîìíîå êîëè÷åñòâî äîðîãèõ ðåñóðñîâ äëÿ ñîçäàíèÿ ìóçûêè (òèïà çàïåðåòüñÿ â òîïîâîé ñòóäèè íà ïîëãîäà). 3. Ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèå äåøåâûõ öèôðîâûõ òåõíîëîãèé çàïèñè. È îòñþäà áåçóìíûé âàë øèòà, â êîòîðîì õîðîøåå ïðîñòî òîíåò â ðåçóëüòàòå îáùåé äåâàëüâàöèè öåííîñòè ìóçûêè (ìóçûêà ñòàëà íà 90 ïðîöåíòîâ øèòîì â ñîçíàíèè ïîòðåáèòåëåé è ïîòåðÿëà ñâîþ ñàêðàëüíóþ öåííîñòü). 4. Äèâåðñèôèêàöèÿ ðàçâëå÷åíèé (3ä êèíî è òï) - ñíèæåíèå öåííîñòè ìóçûêè â îáùåé ìàññå ïðåäëàãàåìûõ ñïîñîáîâ îòäîõíóòü. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2012 23:18 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
"ëó÷øèé" - ÷òî ýòî çíà÷èò? îò ÷åãî îòòàëêèâàòüñÿ â ñóæäåíèè? | |
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 01:13 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
moscow mouse
|
íå ëó÷øèé, à ëó÷øå. Ñóäèòü èç òîãî ñêîëüêî ñëóøàþò òó ìóçûêó è ñêîëüêî ïðîñëóøàþò ñîâðåìåííóþ(áåç ôèí ïîääðåæêè) |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 02:50 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
íó ïî òîìó ÷òî áîëüøå âñåãî ñëóøþò îïàñíî ñóäèòü î ïðåèìóùåñòâàõ èìåííî óñòðîéñòâà çàõâàòà çâóêà. ùàñ âîí ÷óìà÷å÷íàÿ âåñíà èç êàæäîãî âòîðîãî îêíà. | |
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 03:00 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
moscow mouse
|
>íó ïî òîìó ÷òî áîëüøå âñåãî ñëóøþò îïàñíî ñóäèòü î ïðåèìóùåñòâàõ èìåííî óñòðîéñòâà çàõâàòà çâóêà. ùàñ âîí ÷óìà÷å÷íàÿ âåñíà èç êàæäîãî âòîðîãî îêíà. à âû ñòàòèñòèêó ïîêóïîê ïëàñòèíîê ïîñìîòðèòå, èëè îáåå îöåíî÷íîå ÷èñëî ïðîñëóøèâàíèé. À ëó÷øå ïîñïðà øèâàöòå ñðàçíûõ ëþäåé ðàçíûõ ñòðàí è âîçðàñòîâ - êàêèå ïåñíè îíè "Ëþáÿò", íå "ñëóøàþò ñåé÷àñ",à "ëþáÿò âöåëîì". |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 03:25 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
ñòàòèñòèêó ñêà÷èâàíèé, ïðîñëóøèâàíèé è ïðîñìîòðîâ ðîëèêîâ åñëè îöåíèâàòü, òî íè îäíà ïëàñòèíêà è äèñê ðÿäîì íå âñòàíóò. à ëþáîâü îíà íèêàê ñ ìàãíèòîôîíàìè íå ñâÿçàííà. ïðîñòî ñàìà ìóçûêà åùå áûëà ñûðàÿ è íåïîâòîðèìàÿ. ñàìè ëþäè áûëè íå èñêóøåíû ïîòîêàìè èíôîðìàöèè. è ýòî íîðìàëüíî, ÷òî ýðà óøëà, ÷òî åñòü êàíîíè÷åñêèå âåùè. à ìàãíèòîôîí îòûãðàë ñâîþ ðîëü. ñåé÷àñ îí íîñèò ÷èñòî ðàðèòåòíî-íîñòàëüãè÷åñêèé õàðàêòåð. è ïî òîé æå ñòàòèñòèêå åñëè âçÿòü âñåõ ëþäåé, êîòîðûå äåëàþò èëè æåëàþò äåëàòü ìóçûêó, òî ìåíüøèíñòâî èç íèõ çàõî÷åò âçÿòü êàê îñíîâíîå äëÿ çàõâàòà çâóêà ëåíòó è òï. ÿ íå ãîâîðþ óæ î òîì, ÷òî â ñîïóòñòâèå ñ äàííûì îòêàçàòüñÿ îò êîìïüþòåðà è èíòåðíåòà. ýòî êîíå÷íîæå ìîå îáîáùåííîå è ëè÷íîå ìíåíèå, êîòîðîå ïëÿøåò îò òîãî, ÷òî îñíîâíàÿ ìàññà òàê è äåëàåò. íó à âîîáùå, ÿ ñàì ëþáëþ òî ñòàðîå. íî ïóñòü îíî âñå-òàêè îñòàåòñÿ "òàì", íåòðîíóòûì è íåèçâðàùåííûì. à ìû ïîéäåì äàëüøå, ÷òîá ïîòîì î íàñ òàê ãîâîðèëè "ìîë íà êîìïüþòåðàõ îòöû ìóçûêó åùå äåëàëè, íàäîæå... ìîæåò òîæå ïîïðîáóåì, ÷òîá òðó áûëî?" |
|
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 03:52 |
|
|---|---|---|
Moscow
|
> è ñêîëüêî ïðîñëóøàþò ñîâðåìåííóþ(áåç ôèí ïîääåðæêè) -- Íåäîëãî....
|
|
|
WELCOME!
WWW.LONG.RU WWW.SOUNDINFO.ORG/FORUM/ |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 04:05 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
moscow mouse
|
>ñòàòèñòèêó ñêà÷èâàíèé, ïðîñëóøèâàíèé è ïðîñìîòðîâ ðîëèêîâ åñëè îöåíèâàòü, òî íè îäíà ïëàñòèíêà è äèñê ðÿäîì íå âñòàíóò. à ëþáîâü îíà íèêàê ñ ìàãíèòîôîíàìè íå ñâÿçàííà. ïðîñòî ñàìà ìóçûêà åùå áûëà ñûðàÿ è íåïîâòîðèìàÿ. ñàìè ëþäè áûëè íå èñêóøåíû ïîòîêàìè èíôîðìàöèè. è ýòî íîðìàëüíî, ÷òî ýðà óøëà, ÷òî åñòü êàíîíè÷åñêèå âåùè. à ìàãíèòîôîí îòûãðàë ñâîþ ðîëü. ñåé÷àñ îí íîñèò ÷èñòî ðàðèòåòíî-íîñòàëüãè÷åñêèé õàðàêòåð. è ïî òîé æå ñòàòèñòèêå åñëè âçÿòü âñåõ ëþäåé, êîòîðûå äåëàþò èëè æåëàþò äåëàòü ìóçûêó, òî ìåíüøèíñòâî èç íèõ çàõî÷åò âçÿòü êàê îñíîâíîå äëÿ çàõâàòà çâóêà ëåíòó è òï. ÿ íå ãîâîðþ óæ î òîì, ÷òî â ñîïóòñòâèå ñ äàííûì îòêàçàòüñÿ îò êîìïüþòåðà è èíòåðíåòà. ýòî êîíå÷íîæå ìîå îáîáùåííîå è ëè÷íîå ìíåíèå, êîòîðîå ïëÿøåò îò òîãî, ÷òî îñíîâíàÿ ìàññà òàê è äåëàåò. >íó à âîîáùå, ÿ ñàì ëþáëþ òî ñòàðîå. íî ïóñòü îíî âñå-òàêè îñòàåòñÿ "òàì", íåòðîíóòûì è íåèçâðàùåííûì. à ìû ïîéäåì äàëüøå, ÷òîá ïîòîì î íàñ òàê ãîâîðèëè "ìîë íà êîìïüþòåðàõ îòöû ìóçûêó åùå äåëàëè, íàäîæå... ìîæåò òîæå ïîïðîáóåì, ÷òîá òðó áûëî?" Òàê ïîëó÷àåòñÿ âû èñêðåííå ñ÷èòàåòå - ÷òî ñ ïåðåõîäîì îò ìàãíèòîôîíà ê öèôðå èíäóñòðèÿ çâóêîçàïèñè ( â ãëîáàëüíîì ìûñëå,à íå â ÷èñòî òåõíè÷åñêîì) ñäåëàëà øàã âïåðåä? Íó äà - âåäü òåïåðü êàæäûé äåáèë óìåþùèé äâèãàòü ìøêî çà îïðåäåëåííîå êîëè÷åñòâî äâèæåíèé è ïîòðà÷åííûå ÷àñîâ ÍÀ ÇÀÏÈÑÈ ìîæåò èãðàòü è ïåòü êàê íàñòîÿùèé ìóçûêàíò. Æàëü òîëüêî ÷òî ïîíèìàíèå äîñòóïíîñòè ïðîèçâîäñòâà íå ïðèíîñèò çàîäíî ìûñëü î òùàòåëüíîì îòáîðå êîíòåíòà äëÿ çàïèñè. Æàëü ÷òî òåõíè÷åñêèå íîâøåñòâà ïîçâîëÿþò ëþäÿì âìåñòî âûâåðåíèÿ àðàíæèðîâîê íà ðåïåòèöèÿõ èëè(î óæàñ) â íîòàõ ìåñÿöàìè äâèãàòü êâàäðàòèêè â ðåëàêòîðå âû÷åñûâàÿ äî ïðîòèâíîãî áëåñêà ñâîè ÷óîä-òâîðåíèÿ. >ëþáîâü îíà íèêàê ñ ìàãíèòîôîíàìè íå ñâÿçàííà. ïðîñòî ñàìà ìóçûêà åùå áûëà ñûðàÿ è íåïîâòîðèìàÿ. íó äà èìåííî ìóçûêà âåäü çàðîäèëàñü â 20 âåêå à íå êóëüòóðà âíåäðåíèÿ ìóçûêè â ìàññû íå ïî ñðåäñòâàì êîíöåðòîâ,à ïî ñðåäñòâàì ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèÿ è òðàíñëèðîâàíèÿ çàïèñåé |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 10:38 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
Ñ÷èòàþ è ðàñöåíèâàþ,÷òî äà.Íî ÿ ðàçäåëÿþ ïîíÿòèÿ "èíäóñòðèÿ çâóêîçàïèñè" è "ìóçûêà". | |
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 10:42 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
À ëþäè ñ íåäîñòàòî÷íîé "ìóçûêàëüíîñòüþ" ïî ïðåæíåìó,äàæå ñ êîìïüþòåðàìè ñîçäàþò ïëîõóþ ìóçûêó(íå áåðó â ðàñ÷åò ýëåêòðîííóþ ìóçûêó). | |
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 12:29 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
>À ëþäè ñ íåäîñòàòî÷íîé "ìóçûêàëüíîñòüþ" ïî ïðåæíåìó,äàæå ñ êîìïüþòåðàìè ñîçäàþò ïëîõóþ ìóçûêó Ðàçíèöà â òîì, ÷òî òåïåðü îíè âñå ýòîò øèò èçäàþò. È òîïÿò â ýòîì ïîòîêå âñ¸ õîðîøåå. À êîãäà áûë áàðüåð â âèäå ñëîæíîñòè ïðîáèòüñÿ â äîðîãóþ àíàëîãîâóþ ñòóäèþ - äî èçäàíèÿ äîõîäèëî òîëüêî òî, çà ÷òî ñòîèëî áèòüñÿ. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 13:18 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà
|
>> òîãäà îáúÿñíèòå, ïî÷åìó íà âñåãî ëèøü ýëåìåíòå ðåçóëüàòò ëó÷øå(â îáúåêèâíîì à íå òåõíè÷åñêîì ñìûñëå) íà öåëîì êîìïëåêñå.) >Åñòü íåñêîëüêî òåîðèé, ùàñ âñïîìíþ ïàðî÷êó: >1.  ñåìèäåñÿòûå ìóçûêà øëà "ñíèçó", îò äóøè, íå áûëî ïðîäþñåðîâ (áûëè ìåíåäæåðû, ïîìîãàâøèå íèçîâûì òàëàíòàì ðàñêðóòèòüñÿ). À òåïåðü - ìóçûêà èäåò îò ïðîäþñåðîâ, ñâåðõó. 2 êîïåéêè: ýòî ÍÅ òàê. Áèòëç - âïîëíå ñåáå ïðîäþñåðñêèé ïðîåêò. Ñóêñ Ïèñòîëç - ïðîñòî áîéç áýíä, íàáðàíûé Ìàêëàðåíîì ïî êàñòèíãó. ïðîñòî âñå óñóãóáèëîñü |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 13:24 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà
|
> äâèãàòü êâàäðàòèêè â ðåëàêòîðå âû÷åñûâàÿ äî ïðîòèâíîãî áëåñêà ñâîè ÷óîä-òâîðåíèÿ. ÷óäíûé íåîëîãèçì ))) |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 13:40 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
moscow mouse
|
äàóø - äâèãàòü â ðåàêòîðå êâàäðàòèêè | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 13:41 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Moscow
|
>Áèòëç - âïîëíå ñåáå ïðîäþñåðñêèé ïðîåêò -- Îòðîäÿñü òàêèì íå áûë. Âîîáùå, íàñêîëüêî ïîìíþ, ïåðâûé â ìèðå ïðîäþñåðñêèé ïðîåêò - ýòî òàêè Monkeys. |
|
|
WELCOME!
WWW.LONG.RU WWW.SOUNDINFO.ORG/FORUM/ |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 13:42 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
>ýòî ÍÅ òàê. Áèòëç - âïîëíå ñåáå ïðîäþñåðñêèé ïðîåêò. Ñóêñ Ïèñòîëç - ïðîñòî áîéç áýíä, íàáðàíûé Ìàêëàðåíîì ïî êàñòèíãó. >ïðîñòî âñå óñóãóáèëîñü Äâà êîíòðïðèìåðà îáùóþ òåíäåíöèþ íå îïðîâåðãàþò. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 13:46 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
>Ðàçíèöà â òîì, ÷òî òåïåðü îíè âñå ýòîò øèò èçäàþò. È òîïÿò â ýòîì ïîòîêå âñ¸ õîðîøåå. À êîãäà áûë áàðüåð â âèäå ñëîæíîñòè ïðîáèòüñÿ â äîðîãóþ àíàëîãîâóþ ñòóäèþ - äî èçäàíèÿ äîõîäèëî òîëüêî òî, çà ÷òî ñòîèëî áèòüñÿ. Êñòàòè, äåøåâûå ñòóäèè òîæå áûëè - òèïà Òàñêàì, Ôîñòåêñ 8-êàíàëüíûé, ïóëüò Ýëåêòðîíèêà. Ìîæíî áûëî ñêèíóòüñÿ è ïðîïèñàòüñÿ òàëàíòàì. Íî ïîòîê øêîëüíîãî øèò-ðýïà ïðè òîé ñèñòåìå îòñåèâàëñÿ. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 14.02.2012 14:46 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
Íó âî-ïåðâûõ,ýòî õîðîøî,÷òî ìíîãî íå êà÷åñòâåííîãî ñòàëî âûëåçàòü íàðóæó.áîëüøå ïëþñîâ ÷åì ìèíóñîâ.íó à âî-âòîðûõ øèòà âñåãäà õâàòàëî,ýòî ñâèäåòåëüñòâîâàëè ñòàðûå áàáèíû íàéäåííûå ìíîþ ïàðó ëåò íàçàä â îäíîé êëàäîâêå))òàê ÷òî âñå íîðì.ïñ.ìíå êàæåòñÿ àäåêâàòíîå îòíîøåíèå ê øèòó ýòî ïóòü ê èñòèííîìó ïðîôåññèîíàëèçìó. | |
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 15.02.2012 01:20 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Êóáýéñ, ãèòàðà, áàðàáàíû, áàñ
|
>øèòà âñåãäà õâàòàëî,ýòî ñâèäåòåëüñòâîâàëè ñòàðûå áàáèíû íàéäåííûå ìíîþ ïàðó ëåò íàçàä â îäíîé êëàäîâêå)) Äàâàéòå ïîñïîðèì, ÷òî òàì íåñðàâíèìî áîëåå êà÷åñòâåííàÿ ìóçûêà, ÷åì â ñëó÷àéíîì ïëåéëèñòå âêîíòàêòå ó ñðåäíåñòàòèñòè÷åñêîãî ïîäðîñòêà. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 15.02.2012 01:30 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà
|
>>ýòî ÍÅ òàê. Áèòëç - âïîëíå ñåáå ïðîäþñåðñêèé ïðîåêò. Ñóêñ Ïèñòîëç - ïðîñòî áîéç áýíä, íàáðàíûé Ìàêëàðåíîì ïî êàñòèíãó. >>ïðîñòî âñå óñóãóáèëîñü >Äâà êîíòðïðèìåðà îáùóþ òåíäåíöèþ íå îïðîâåðãàþò. êòî-òî îòëè÷íóþ ñòàòüþ ïèñàë ïðî òî, ÷òî ïðîñòî ïðèøëè ðåáÿòà ñ óîëë-ñòðèòà â ìóçáèçíåñ. âîò è âñå.. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 15.02.2012 10:32 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
ÿ íå áóäó è íå ìîãó ñïîðèòü íà ýòó òåìó. " íåñðàâíèìî áîëåå êà÷åñòâåííàÿ ìóçûêà, ÷åì â ñëó÷àéíîì ïëåéëèñòå âêîíòàêòå" ïî íåêîòîðûì ïðè÷èíàì. íàäåþñü, ìíîãèå ïîíèìàþò ïî÷åìó íà ýòó òåìó ñïîðèòü íåðàçóìíî. | |
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 15.02.2012 11:15 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Saint-Petersburg
|
À íà êàêóþ òåìó ðàçóìíî ñïîðèòü? | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 15.02.2012 13:05 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
õîòÿáû íà òó, ó êîòîðîé åñòü ÷åòêèå è îáúåêòèâíûå äîìèíàíòû â îïðåäååíèè. "êà÷åñòâåííàÿ ìóçûêà" â êîíòåêñòå äàííîãî òîïèêà óæå êàê-ìèíèìóì â 3 àñïåêòàõ ñàìîãî ïîíÿòèÿ ðàçëîæåíà, ïðè÷åì êàê "êà÷åñòâåííàÿ", òàê è "ìóçûêà". | |
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 15.02.2012 15:22 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Saint-Petersburg
|
Îáúåêòèâíûå? Â ìèëëèìåòðàõ? Èëè â ìèëëèãðàììàõ? Äëÿ êîãî-òî è ïðåñëîâóòûå ýÍýÑêè — ìîíèòîðû.... È ÷òî? Íàñêîëüêî ýòî îáúåêòèâíî? |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 15.02.2012 18:15 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Êàçàíü
|
Óòðèðóåòå | |
|
***
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: _=Ãëóïûå âîïðîñû ïðî DIGIDESIGN PRO TOOLS HD=_
Âðåìÿ: 15.02.2012 18:53 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
moscow mouse
|
íñ-êè íè÷åãî òàê ìîíèòîðû, íå â ìîíèòîðàõ âåäü äåëî, äà è íå â ðåêîðäåðå - ó êîãî â ðåêîðäåðå è ìîíèòîðàõ - òåì ïî ôàêòó ñëîæíåå.. îíè èùóò ñáîêó îò ñóòè ïðîôåññèè | |
|
|
||