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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè  
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Òóò ëþäè ñïðàøèâàëè. Îòâå÷àþ, ÿ íàêîíåö íàïèñàë ïåðâóþ âåðñèþ. Ìíîãèì èç ìåñòíûõ ìàòåðûõ âîêàëèñòèùåé îíà êàê áû è íå íóæíà, îíè è òàê â íîòû ïîïàäàþò. À âîò ìíå îíà ñèëüíî ïîìîãàåò. Ëåæèò òóò. Ïðîáóéòå ïîæàëóéñòà! Äîêóìåíòàöèÿ åùå íå ãîòîâà.  ðàáîòå. Íî òàì âñ¸ äîâîëüíî èíòóèòèâíî ïîíÿòíî. Åñëè ÷å, çàäàâàéòå âîïðîñû ñþäà èëè ïî åìýéëó support@precisetone.com Ðóñèôèöèðîâàòü åå ìîæíî ïîñòàâèâ Main.locale.language=ru â ôàéëå precisetone.properties |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 02.01.2010 21:41 |
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Ïîøòîâà ïëîùà ôóíèêóë¸ð 
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ñïàñèáî, ñåé÷àñ áóäó íà÷èíàòü ðàçâèâàòüñÿ 
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òî, ÷òî ÿ ïðèíèìàë çà èìïåäàíñ, îêàçàëîñü àñòìîé...
ïîêèíóë ôîðóì, â ëè÷êó íå ïèñàòü |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 02.01.2010 21:45 |
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îîî, êàê âñ¸ ìîùíî 
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òî, ÷òî ÿ ïðèíèìàë çà èìïåäàíñ, îêàçàëîñü àñòìîé...
ïîêèíóë ôîðóì, â ëè÷êó íå ïèñàòü |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 02.01.2010 22:11 |
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Ìîñêâà Ïðàéä ëüâèö è òóøêà àíòèëîïû
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íà æàâå ïèñàòü ïðîãðàììû - ïðèçíàê ïëîõîãî òîíà...
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 02.01.2010 22:17 |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>íà æàâå ïèñàòü ïðîãðàììû - ïðèçíàê ïëîõîãî òîíà... íà ÷åì ÿ òîëüêî â æèçíè ñâîåé íå ïèñàë, òàê ÷òî ìíå òàêèå ñíîáèñòñêèå óðáàí ëåäæåíç ïîôèãó.  È ïî÷åìó áû íå íà äæàâå? Ïåðôîðìàíñà õâàòàåò. Ðàáîòàåò âåçäå, íà Ìàêå è íà Ëèíóêñå. Ñàì ÿçûê ñòðîéíûé, êîíöåïòóàëüíî ïðîäóìàííûé, ïèñàòü ïðèÿòíî. 
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 03:05 |
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çà÷åì íàì ìîçã? âîò è ÿ ãîâîðþ 
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Äåëî áëàãîå, êðóò. Äæàâà - òðó. Êðîññïëàòôîðìåííî è ýíòåðïðàéçíî. Âîò òîëüêî ñàéò ñàì ïî ñåáå äîâîëüíî áåñòîëêîâ. Øàáëîí íåóäà÷åí, íåêðàñèâ è ìàëîèíôîðìàòèâåí. Ëó÷øå á ñìåíèòü íà ÷òî-íèáóäü ïîñîâðåìåííåé. Äà è íàä íàïîëíåíèåì áû ïîðàáîòàòü - êðàñî÷íîå è äåòàëüíîå îïèñàíèå, ñêðèíû, ñêðèíêàñòû. Êðàòêî è îäíîçíà÷íî îáúÿñíèòü óñëîâèÿ ëèöåíçèðîâàíèÿ. Shareware âåäü? Íå íàø¸ë äëèíó òðèàëüíîãî ïåðèîäà, íó è öåíà äîâîëüíî ñòðàííàÿ - íàñêîëüêî ÿ çíàþ, êóäà áîëåå òÿæåëîâåñíûå (íå â ñìûñëå îáú¸ìà ôàéëà, ðàçóìååòñÿ, à â ñìûñëå ôóíêöèîíàëüíîñòè è ïîïóëÿðíîñòè) òèïà Earmaster èëè Guitar Pro ñòîÿò êóäà äåøåâëå. Ïëþñ, äëÿ ïðîäàæè íåïëîõî áû ïîðàáîòàòü íàä äèçàéíîì - ìàêîâîäû ïðîãðàììó ñ òàêèì âèäîì íå êóïÿò, ëèíóêñîèäû ñèëüíî çàäóìàþòñÿ, ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì âèíäû æå áåç ðàçíèöû - âñ¸ ðàâíî ïðàêòè÷åñêè íè÷åãî íå ïîêóïàþò. Çàòåì, íàäî áóäåò â öåëÿõ ïèàðà äîáèòüñÿ å¸ âêëþ÷åíèÿ â êàêîé-íèáóäü ñêèäî÷íûé áàíäë äëÿ ìàêà - ãîâîðÿò, íåïëîõî ïîäûìàåò ïîïóëÿðíîñòü. Íó è âîîáùå, òåîðåòè÷åñêè, íåïëîõèì ìîã áû áûòü òàêîé âàðèàíò: áàçîâàÿ áåñïëàòíàÿ âåðñèÿ ïîä GPL è ïëàòíàÿ çàêðûòàÿ ñ ãëàìóðíûì äèçàéíîì è âñÿ÷åñêèìè ïëþñàìè. Òàê è äîïîëíèòåëüíûé íàðîä ìîæíî ïðèâëå÷ü äëÿ ðàçâèòèÿ è ñîçäàíèÿ êîììüþíèòè, è, îïÿòü-òàêè, ñêàçàòü î ñåáå è çàõâàòèòü ðûíîê. Âîò, êàê-òî òàê. Ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì ïîòåñòèë áû ïðîãðàììó, äà â ìîé ÏÊ ìèêðîôîí íå âîòêíóòü. |
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What you feel doesn't matter to me All these words, and still there is nothing to hear |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
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èíòåðåñíî áûëî áû ïîñëóøàòü çàïèñè òèïà áèôî/àôòåð èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ïðîãðàììû. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 03:48 |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 03:57 |
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õì, ïîìîùü íåðàáîòàåò... âñå íàñòðîèë - êàê ñäåëàòü ÷òîá îòîáðàæàëî ìèìîíîòèÿ ? |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 07:42 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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Õýëï ãîòîâëþ. Íà ðóññêîì è íà àíãëèéñêîì. >êàê ñäåëàòü ÷òîá îòîáðàæàëî ìèìîíîòèÿ ? íó, äëÿ ýòîãî íàäî èõ ñïåòü. Ó ìåíÿ èõ ìíîãî îòîáðàæàåò. >lakevostok, ñïàñèáî çà äåëüíûå ñîâåòû. ïîñìîòðèì êàê ïîéäåò. Íàä ñàéòîì òîëüêî íà÷àë ðàáîòàòü. Ïðîñòî âçÿë ãîòîâûé øàáëîí ó ïðîâàéäåðà. Êîíòåíò áóäó äîáàâëÿòü. Ïîêà íà ñàéòå ïî áîëüøîìó ñ÷åòó òîëüêî äàóíëîàä òðèàëà. Äàòà îêîí÷àíèÿ òðèàëà ïîêàçàíà â ëèöåíçèîííîé ïàíåëè. Ìåíþ Help-License. Earmaster è Guitar Pro íàâåðíîå ìîãóò ñåáå ïîçâîëèòü ñòîèòü äåøåâëå. Îíè òûñÿ÷àìè ïðîäàþòñÿ. Âèíäîâç âîò, ñóïåðñëîæíûé íàáîð ïðîãðàìì ñòîèò ñîòíþ-äâå. ß òåáå êàê ïðèìåð ìîãó ïðèâåñòè è äðóãèå ïðîãè Finale - ñòîèò îêîëî 6 ñîòåí. Íîòíûé ðåäàêòîð. Ñåëåìîíè Ìåëîäèí - äâå ñ ëèøíèì ñîòíè ìèíèìóì. Ðûíîê ìîåé ïðîãè íå òàê øèðîê - íà÷èíàþùèå ìóçûêàíòû. ß ïîêà äóìàþ âûïóñòèòü åùå óñå÷åííóþ ðåäàêöèþ äëÿ ó÷åíèêîâ, íåäîðîãóþ. À â ýòó ðåäàêöèþ äîáàâèòü åùå ôè÷. Àêêîìïàíåìåíò èç ÌÈÄÈ èëè àóäèîôàéëà. Çàïèñü íàïåòîãî çâóêà â ôàéë, ñ ïîñëåäóþùèì êîíòðîëüíûì âîñïðîèçâåäåíèåì. Ïîêàç íîò â ìóçûêàëüíîé íîòàöèè. Êîðî÷å, áóäó ðàçâèâàòü. Ýòî ïîêà òîëüêî ïåðâàÿ âåðñèÿ. Äèçàéí, äà, ïðîñòåöêèé. ÿ ïîêà ñîñðåäîòî÷èëñÿ íà ôóíêöèîíàëüíîñòè. Äèçàéí ïîêà íàðî÷èòî ìèíèìàëèñòñêèé. Òàê, êñòàòè, ìåíåå èãðóøå÷íî âûãëÿäèò. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 08:36 |
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à õìì êàêîé äîëæåí áûòü óðîâåíü âõîäíîãî çâóêà ÷òîáû ïðîãà óëîâèëà çâóê? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 16:30 |
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Èíòåðåñíàÿ ïðîãðàììêà. Ñêà÷àë ïîïðîáîâàë. Òîëüêî åñòü îäíî íî. Îíà ïîêàçûâàåò òîò òîí, êîòîðûé ÿ ïîþ, áóäòî áû îí íà îêòàâó íèæå. Íàïðèìåð, ÿ âûáðàë ãàììó â ìàëîé îêòàâå, ïîþ åå, à îí ðèñóåò ãðàôèê, êàê áóäòî ÿ ïîþ â áîëüøîé îêòàâå. |
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Âû ìíå ïèñàëè. Íå îòïèðàéòåñü...
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>à õìì êàêîé äîëæåí áûòü óðîâåíü âõîäíîãî çâóêà ÷òîáû ïðîãà óëîâèëà çâóê? Ïðîãà ñàìà íå óëàâëèâàåò çâóê, îíà áåðåò åãî èç äðàéâåðà. Íî â ïðîãå åñòü ïîðîã, ÷òîáû îíà íå ïûòàëàñü îïðåäåëÿòü òîí øóìà. Çíà÷åíèå ýòîãî ïîðîãà ïîêà çàøèòî â êîäå.  ñëåäóþùåé ïîäâåðñèè ÿ âûíåñó åãî â íàñòðîéêè. ß òåñòèðîâàë íà íåñêîëüêèõ êîìïüþòåðàõ. Óðîâåíü çàâèñèò îò çâóêîâîé êàðòû. Ïî÷òè äëÿ âñåõ ìíå ïðèõîäèëîñü âêëþ÷àòü Microphone boost â êîíòðîëüíîé ïàíåëè Âèíäîâç. Ïðîâåðü òàì. Êàê ìèê ðàáîòàåò â äðóãèõ ïðîãðàììàõ?  Âèíäîâç Ñàóíä Ðåêîðäåðå? Åñëè âåçäå ðàáîòàåò íîðìàëüíî. Òî â PreciseTone âûáåðè â ìåíþ Settings->Audio Capture Settings. Îáû÷íî âñå äîëæíî ðàáîòàòü íîðìàëüíî ñ óñòðîéñòâîì Primary Sound Capture Driver. Íàæìè êíîïêó òåñò, ïîãîâîðè â ìèê. Èíäèêàòîð äîëæåí ïîêàçûâàòü çåëåíóþ ïîëîñêó óðîâíÿ çâóêà. Åñëè åå íåò, ïîïðîáóé äðóãîå óñòðîéñòâî. È åùå, ASIO íå ïîääåðæèâàòñÿ â Äæàâå. Åñëè òû ïûòàåøüñÿ ïîäêëþ÷èòüñÿ ê óñòðîéñòâó ÀÑÈÎ, òî íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ. Ìîæåò â ñëåäóþùåé âåðñèè ìíå óäàñòñÿ ïîäêëþ÷èòü ÀÑÈÎ. >ïîêàçûâàåò òîò òîí, êîòîðûé ÿ ïîþ, áóäòî áû îí íà îêòàâó íèæå. Íàïðèìåð, ÿ âûáðàë ãàììó â ìàëîé îêòàâå, ïîþ åå, à îí ðèñóåò ãðàôèê, êàê áóäòî ÿ ïîþ â áîëüøîé îêòàâå. Ýòà ïðîãðàììà çàòî÷åíà îïðåäåëÿòü ñàìûé íèçêèé òîí, äîñòàòî÷íî ãðîìêèé ïî óðîâíþ - òàê íàçûâàåìûé ôóíäàìåíòàëüíûé òîí. Ò.ê. òû áàðèòîí, òî ó òåáÿ íàâåðíîå ñèëüíûå ñóáãàðìîíèêè. Èõ-òî íàâåðíîå ïðîãðàììà è áåðåò çà ôóíäàìåíòàëüíûé òîí. Ïîêà, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, àëãîðèòì íå íàñòîëüêî ñîâåðøåíåí, íàñêîëüêî ñîâåðøåííà ñèñòåìà, ñîñòîÿùàÿ èç óõà è ìîçãà ó ÷åëîâåêà. Ïîýòîìó îíà ìîæåò âîñïðèíèìàòü çâóê íå òàê êàê óõî-ìîçã. Êñòàòè, ÿ ÷èòàë, ÷òî äàæå ðàçíûå ëþäè ñëûøàò ñëîæíûé çâóê ïî-ðàçíîìó. Íàïðèìåð, â òâîåì ñëó÷àå, êòî íèáóäü, íàâåðíîå, òàê áû è óñëûøàë, ÷òî òû ïîåøü íà îêòàâó íèæå. ß ïîñòîÿííî äóìàþ íàä óñîâåðøåíñòâîâàíèåì àëãîðèòìà îïðåäåëåíèÿ òîíà. Âîçìîæíî â áóäóþùåì ýòî áóäåò îáó÷åííàÿ íåéðîííàÿ ñåòü. Íî ïîêà âèæó òîëüêî îäíî ðåøåíèå, ïðîñòî ïîêàçûâàòü òðè ñîñòàâëÿþùèõ çâóê òîíà - îäèí ñàìûé ãðîìêèé - öåíòðàëüíûé, åùå îäèí âûøå, è òðåòèé íèæå. Êàê òû äóìàåøü, òàêîå áûëî-áû ïîëåçíî? |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 18:49 |
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Äîíåöê âîêàë/áàðèòîí
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Òåáå íàäî îïðåäåëÿòü íå òîëüêî ôóíäàìåíòàëüíûé òîí, à è ãàðìîíèêè. Õîòÿ áû ïåðâóþ ãàðìîíèêó, êîòîðàÿ èäåò ÷åðåç îêòàâó. Íî åùå ëó÷øå áóäåò, åñëè îïðåäåëèòü òàêæå è êâèíòîâóþ ãàðìîíèêó, òîãäà áóäåò 100% ðåçóëüòàò, ïîòîìó ÷òî òîëüêî îêòàâíîé ìîæåò íå õâàòèòü, íàïðèìåð â ñèòóàöèè, êîãäà ñèëüíû 1-ÿ (îêòàâíàÿ) è 3-ÿ (êâàðòîâàÿ ãàðìîíèêà), à 2-ÿ ãàðìîíèêà ïî êàêîé-òî ïðè÷èíå îòñóòñòâîâàòü, ò.å. ìîæåò âûäàòü ðåçóëüòàò íàîáîðîò íà îêòàâó âûøå. Ïåðâûå 2 ãàðìîíèêè (îêòàâíàÿ è êâèíòîâàÿ) äîâîëüíî òî÷íî îïðåäåëÿþò íîòó . Ìîæåò áûòü, êîíå÷íî, òàêîé ýêçîòè÷åñêèé âàðèàíò, êîãäà ñèëüíû 1-ÿ, 3-ÿ, 4-ÿ è 5-ÿ, êîòîðûå òîæå â ñóììå äàäóò îêòàâó+êâèíòó, è òîãäà ðåçóëüòàò òîæå áóäåò íåâåðíûì. Íî âåðîÿòíîñòü ïîÿâëåíèÿ òàêîãî ñèãíàëà, èçäàâàåìîãî ÷åëîâå÷åñêèì ãîëîñîì, êðàéíå ìàëà. |
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Âû ìíå ïèñàëè. Íå îòïèðàéòåñü...
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 19:02 |
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Äîíåöê âîêàë/áàðèòîí
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Âñå-òàêè, èìõî, ëó÷øå áóäåò, åñëè 3 ãàðìîíèêè: îêòàâíàÿ, êâèíòîâàÿ è êâàðòîâàÿ. Òî åñòü, ê ïðèìåðó, îñíîâíîé òîí Ëÿ ìàëîé - 220 Ãö, 1-ÿ ãàðìîíèêà - 440 Ãö, 2-ÿ 659, 3-ÿ - 880 Ãö. | |
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Âû ìíå ïèñàëè. Íå îòïèðàéòåñü...
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 19:27 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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ÈÌÕÎ â ãîëîñå ìîãóò áûòü íàìåøàíû íå òîëüêî ãàðìîíèêè. Êàæäàÿ êàìåðà ãðóäè, ãîëîâû, èëè ó÷àñòîê ãîëîñîâîãî ðóïîðà èìåþò ñâîé ðåçîíàíñ. Èç íèõ è ñêëàäûâàåòñÿ òåìáð, êàê íàáîð ÷àñòîò. È ýòîò íàáîð ÷àñòîò íå îáÿçàòåëüíî ãàðìîíè÷åñêè ïðàâèëüíûé. Îí çàâèñèò îò êîíôèãóðàöèè ðóïîðà è àíàòîìè÷åñêèõ ôàêòîðîâ. È äàæå îò âíåøíåé àêóñòèêè. Ïëþñ ê ýòèì ÷àñòîòàì åùå äîáàâëÿþòñÿ èõ ãàðìîíèêè. Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî â êàæäûé ìîìåíò âðåìåíè èìååòñÿ íåñêîëüêî íàèáîëåå âûðàæåííûõ ÷àñòîò ñî ñâîèìè àìïëèòóäàìè. Âîïðîñ â òîì, êàêóþ èç íèõ âûáðàòü è ïîêàçàòü íà ýêðàíå. ß äóìàë ïîêàçàòü íåñêîëüêî, 2-3 ñàìûõ ñèëüíûõ. |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 19:40 |
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Äîíåöê âîêàë/áàðèòîí
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Ãàðìîíèêè âûäåëÿþòñÿ â ãîëîñå î÷åíü ÿâíî. Åñòü êó÷à ðàçëè÷íûõ àëãîðèòìîâ. Âîò, íàïðèìåð, íîòà ìè 1-é îêòàâû  Ýòî frequency analysis â Adobe Audition 2.0 Êàê âèäèøü âñå ãàðìîíèêè âèäíû î÷åíü ÷åòêî. Òàì åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü âûáðàòü àëãîðèòì, ñ ïîìîùüþ êîòîðîãî ïðîèçâåñòè àíàëèç. Äàæå ñàìûé ïðîñòîé èç íèõ äàåò ïðèåìëåìûé ðåçóëüòàò. Àíàëèç ìîæåò ïðîèçâîäèòüñÿ è íà ëåòó. Îäíàêî, åñëè ïåòü íå â ãîëîñ, à íàïåâàÿ, òî òîãäà íå áóäåò ÂÏÔ, ò.å. ïîäúåìà â îáëàñòè 2,8 êÃö, íî âñå ðàâíî ïåðâûå íåñêîëüêî ãàðìîíèê ïðèñóòñòâîâàòü áóäóò, ÷òî äîñòàòî÷íî äëÿ îïðåäåëåíèÿ íîòû. |
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Âû ìíå ïèñàëè. Íå îòïèðàéòåñü...
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 19:44 |
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Äîíåöê âîêàë/áàðèòîí
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Èìõî, òâîÿ ïðîãðàììà ðåàãèðóåò íå íà îñíîâíîé òîí, à íà óíòåðòîí, êîòîðûé ðàñïîëàãàåòñÿ íà îêòàâó íèæå îñíîâíîãî òîíà. Â ïðèâåäåííîì âûøå ïðèìåðå, ýòî ìàëåíüêèé òàêîé áóãîðîê ñëåâà îò îñíîâíîãî òîíà (ïåðâîãî âûñîêîãî ïèêà). | |
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Âû ìíå ïèñàëè. Íå îòïèðàéòåñü...
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 20:56 |
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çà÷åì íàì ìîçã? âîò è ÿ ãîâîðþ
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>Äàòà îêîí÷àíèÿ òðèàëà ïîêàçàíà â ëèöåíçèîííîé ïàíåëè. Ìåíþ Help-License. Íà ñàéòå òîæå ñòîèëî áû äëèòåëüíîñòü óêàçàòü. >Îíè òûñÿ÷àìè ïðîäàþòñÿ. Ðûíîê íå òàê è óçîê, íà÷èíàþùèõ ìóçûêàíòîâ âñåãäà õâàòàåò. Íè÷òî íå ìåøàåò è òåáå òûñÿ÷àìè ïðîäàâàòüñÿ. >Äèçàéí ïîêà íàðî÷èòî ìèíèìàëèñòñêèé. Òàê, êñòàòè, ìåíåå èãðóøå÷íî âûãëÿäèò. Ìíå ñàìîìó ìèíèìàëèçì, â îáùåì-òî, áëèæå. Íî ãëàâíûé ðûíîê äëÿ shareware ñåé÷àñ - ìàêîñü, à òàì ê äèçàéíó òðåáîâàíèÿ îõ êàê âåëèêè. Ïðîãðàììà äîëæíà õîðîøî âïèñûâàòüñÿ â îáùóþ âèçóàëüíóþ êîíöåïöèþ ñèñòåìû. Íàâåðíîå, ïðèä¸òñÿ âêëàäûâàòüñÿ â äèçàéí ïðîãðàììû è ñàéòà. À âîîáùå, ÿ áû åù¸ ïðèñìîòðåëñÿ ê ìîáèëüíîìó ðûíêó. Íà Android è iPhone ëþäè äåëàþò áîëüøèå äåíüãè. Òåì áîëåå, íà Android òà æå äæàâà. |
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I loathe everything I see
What you feel doesn't matter to me All these words, and still there is nothing to hear |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 21:26 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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Õì. Ïðîãà äîëæíà îïðåäåëÿòü ïðàâèëüíî. ß ïðîâåðÿë ìåòîäîì ôèäáàêà. 1. Ñîçäàâàë ãàììó - ìåíþ Tools->Scale Generator, ãàììà CEG1-15-2-80 â âûïàäàëêå 2. Ñòàâèë ìàëîêîëîðèòíûé èíñòðóìåíò - íàïðèìåð Ôëåéòó èç íàáîðà Microsoft GS Wavetable. 2. Âêëþ÷àë êîïüþòåðíûå êîëîíêè è ïîäñòàâëÿë ìèê ê êîëîíêå. 3. Çàïóñêàë Çàïèñü - Sing Back Äåëàë ýòî è íà ñàáâóôåðå è íà ïèùàëêàõ. Íà ñàáâóôåðå 99% äåòåêòèðîâàíèå áûëî òî÷íûì. Íà ïèùàëêàõ ïðûãàëî íà îêòàâó âûøå èççà Â× ãàðìîíèê. Îñîáåííî íà àòàêàõ. Ïîïðîáóé ìîé ýêñïåðèìåíò ñ ôèäáàêîì. Íî ÿ ïîíÿë ïðîáëåìó, íà íåêîòîðûõ ãîëîñàõ äåòåêòèðîâàíèå èäåò ñ îøèáêàìè. Áóäó äóìàòü. |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 03.01.2010 21:30 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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lakevostok, ñïàñèáî òåáå. ß òîëüêî íà÷àë. Åñëè ðóäà ïîéäåò, òî áóäó ðàçâèâàòü. Êàê áóðæóè ãîâîðÿò, start to go baby steps. | |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 04.01.2010 08:58 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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Äîáàâèë äèàëîã óñòàíîâîê äåòåêòèðîâàíèÿ. Ïðîáóéòå. |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 04.01.2010 16:35 |
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Ìîñêâà Ïðàéä ëüâèö è òóøêà àíòèëîïû
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>È ïî÷åìó áû íå íà äæàâå? ïîéìè, ÿ íè÷åãî ïðîòèâ äæàâû íå èìåþ... ïðîñòî ñìûñë øàðåâàðíîñòè ñðàçó òåðÿåòñÿ, èç çà áîëüøîãî êîëè÷åñòâà ôàéëîâ/êàòàëîãîâ, ïðîñòîòû ïîëó÷åíèÿ èñõîäíîãî êîäà (â ñðàâíåíèè ñ PE-ôîðìàòîì), è íåîáõîäèìîñòè èñïîëüçîâàòü ôðåéìâîðê... êñòàòè î øàðåâàðíîñòè, èñïîëüçîâàë ýòó ñèñòåìó äëÿ ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèÿ íåñêîëüêèõ ïðîãðàìì, äîâîëüíî óäîáíî... ïðîñòî ùåëêíè ïî áàííåðó è çàöåíè: ---- âûðåçàíî ìîäåðàòîðîì --- |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2010 09:02 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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Êà÷àéòå ñ îáíîâëåíèÿìè! - Óëó÷øåí àëãîðèòì äåòåêòèðîâàíèÿ. - Äîáàâëåí þçåð-ìàíóàë è õåëï, ïîêà íà àíãëèéñêîì. - Ïîä÷èùåíû íåêîòîðûå ìåëêèå áàãè. - Ñåé÷àñ òàê æå çàïóñêàåòñÿ íà Ëèíóêñå è íà Ìàêå. |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2010 11:27 |
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óðîâåíü âõîäíîãî ñèãíàëà - áîëüøîé íàæèìóþ èãðàòü è àêòèâ - íè÷åãî íå âûðèñîâûâàåòñÿ |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2010 14:52 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>óðîâåíü âõîäíîãî ñèãíàëà - áîëüøîé >íàæèìóþ èãðàòü è àêòèâ - íè÷åãî íå âûðèñîâûâàåòñÿ óðîâåíü áîëüøîé âñå âðåìÿ èëè êîãäà ãîâîðèøü/ïîåøü â ìèê? äîëæåí áûòü êîãäà ãîâîðèøü/ïîåøü. Êàêèå åñòü óñòðîéñòâà â ñïèñêå Âõîäíûõ Àóäèî Óñòðîéñòâ? Êàêîå ó òåáÿ ñòîèò? Êàêàÿ çâóêîâàÿ êàðòà? Êîãäà íàæèìàåøü Òåñò, â ñòàòóñå ÎÊ èëè îøèáêà? Åñëè îøèáêà, òî êàêàÿ? Åñòü-ëè îøèáêè â ôàéëå precisetone.log? åñëè äà òî âûøëè. ñïàñèáî! |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2010 18:28 |
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Ãîðîä ïîä îáëàêàìè... Ìîå òåëî... 
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Ñîëüôåäæèî ïðèäóìàëè äëÿ âàñ... êàêèå íàêóé ïðîãè áëåòü... 
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Ìîÿ âîêàëüíàÿ äåìî íàðåçêà â ðàçíûõ ñòèëÿõ https://yadi.sk/d/JaQmgTi5acxEG
Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ" |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2010 19:47 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>Ñîëüôåäæèî ïðèäóìàëè äëÿ âàñ... êàêèå íàêóé ïðîãè áëåòü... Ñîëüôåäæèî ïðèäóìàëè äëÿ âàñ... êàêèå íàêóé ïèàíèíû? Ïîéòå òàê, áåç ïèàíèíû. Ñ ïèàíèíîé è îëåíü ñïîåò áëåòü. |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 12.01.2010 02:44 |
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Ãîðîä ïîä îáëàêàìè... Ìîå òåëî...
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ß íè÷åãî íå ïîíÿë ÷å òû íàïèñàë... ïðè÷åì òóò ïèàíèíî... Ñàáæ íå ÷èòàë è äàæå íå êà÷àë...  Ìíå òî âîîáùå íè ñîëüôåäæèî íè ïðîãè íå íóæíû... ó ìåíÿ îò ïðèðîäû îòëè÷íûé ñëóõ. Ïðîñòî ñîëüôåäæèî... òàêîé ïðåäìåò... ãäå ñëóõ ðàçâèâàåòñÿ âî âñåõ íàïðàâëåíèÿõ... à êàêèå òî ïðîãè äëÿ îïðåäåëåíèÿ íîò ýòî ïîòåðÿ âðåìåíè, ýòî íå ðàçâèâàåò íè ðàçó. |
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Ìîÿ âîêàëüíàÿ äåìî íàðåçêà â ðàçíûõ ñòèëÿõ https://yadi.sk/d/JaQmgTi5acxEG
Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ" |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 12.01.2010 04:49 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>ß íè÷åãî íå ïîíÿë ÷å òû íàïèñàë... ïðè÷åì òóò ïèàíèíî... Íó ïðè òîì, ÷òî çà÷åì ó÷åíèêè ó÷àòñÿ îïðåäåëÿòü íîòû è ïåòü ïîä ïèàíèíî? Ïèàíèíî äîâîëüíî ñîâðåìåííûé ñëîæíûé èíñòðóìåíò. Ëåò 500 âñåãî. Çà÷åì òàêèå íîâøåñòâà? Ïóñòü áû òàê áåç ïèàíèíî è ïåëè, êàê äðåâíèå ãðåêè. Îò ïèàíèíî òîëüêî ñëóõ ïîðòèòñÿ. >Ñàáæ íå ÷èòàë è äàæå íå êà÷àë... Ýòî òàê åñòåñòâåííî - Íå ÷èòàë, íå êà÷àë, íî îñóæäàþ. >Ìíå òî âîîáùå íè ñîëüôåäæèî íè ïðîãè íå íóæíû... ó ìåíÿ îò ïðèðîäû îòëè÷íûé ñëóõ. ß ðàä çà òåáÿ. ß âîáùåì è ïèñàë, ÷òî êðóòûì âîêàëèñòàì, êàê íàïðèìåð òåáå, îíî áåç íàäîáíîñòè. Êàê áåç íàäîáíîñòè ìåòðîíîì áàðàáàíùèêó The Tool.  >Ïðîñòî ñîëüôåäæèî... òàêîé ïðåäìåò... ãäå ñëóõ ðàçâèâàåòñÿ âî âñåõ íàïðàâëåíèÿõ... ß êàê áû è íå îòðèöàë. È íå ïðîòèâîïîñòàâëÿë ïðîãðàììó ïîëíîöåííîìó îáó÷åíèþ. >à êàêèå òî ïðîãè äëÿ îïðåäåëåíèÿ íîò ýòî ïîòåðÿ âðåìåíè, ýòî íå ðàçâèâàåò íè ðàçó. Âîò òóò ÿ ñ òîáîé íå ñîãëàøóñü. ß óæå îòâå÷àë â äðóãîì ôîðóìå, êîïèïýéñòíó îòòóäà. >Æåñòÿíùèê, îíî êîíå÷íî ìûñëü áëàãàÿ, íî áîþñü ÷òî èäåÿ ýòà ìîæåò îêàçàòüñÿ ìåäâåæüåé óñëóãîé, âðÿä ëè ïîìîæåò. Ïðè òàêîé ìåòîäèêå ìîòîðèêà ñëóõà íå íàðàáîòàåòñÿ. Âèçóàëüíûé êîíòðîëü áèåíèé ñëóõ íå ðàçîâüåò. Ìíå êàæåòñÿ âïóñòóþ òû âðåìÿ ïîòðàòèë íà ýòó ïðîãó. ÈÌÕÎ. Ïåðåä òåì êàê íà÷àòü äåëàòü, ÿ òîæå äóìàë èìåííî îá ýòîì. Íî ïîòîì ðåøèë, âåäü ìåòðîíîì-æå íå ïîäàâëÿåò ó ìóçûêàíòà ÷óâñòâà ðèòìà. Åñëè èì ïðàâèëüíî ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ. Çàíèìàòüñÿ òîæå íàäî ñ óìîì, ïîïåë ãëÿäÿ íà êðèâóþ ñâîåãî òîíà, ãîðëî ïðèâûêëî êàê íàäî, óõî ïðèâûêëî. Íàâûê íåìíîãî çàêðåïèëñÿ. Íà÷èíàé ïåòü íå ãëÿäÿ. Íà ñëóõ. À ãëÿäè óæå ïîñëå òîãî êàê ñïåë. Äëÿ ïðîâåðêè. Åñëè åñòü îòêëîíåíèÿ, íà÷èíàé ñíà÷àëà. ß ñàì èìåííî òàê çàíèìàþñü. Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî ñëóõîâîé ñàìîêîíòðîëü ïðèòóïëÿåòñÿ ñî âðåìåíåì. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ó ìåíÿ. Ïîñëå 20 ìèíóò êðèâîãî ïåíèÿ ñëóõ ïðèâûêàåò ê îøèáêàì ãîëîñà, è íà÷èíàåò êàçàòüñÿ, ÷òî ñïåë âñå ïðàâèëüíî. À çðåíèåì òû ñðàçó âèäèøü ëàæó, è íå äàåøü ñëóõó ê íåé ïðèâûêíóòü. Íåñîìíåííî, ïðîãðàììà íå çàìåíÿåò ó÷èòåëÿ, êàê íå ìîæåò åãî çàìåíèòü ìåòðîíîì. Íî ó÷èòåëü ïóñòü ñòàâèò ãîëîñ, çâó÷àíèå, ìóçûêàëüíîñòü, âûðàçèòåëüíîñòü è ïðî÷èå òîíêèå âåùè. À ïðîñòî ïîïàäàòü â íîòû, çà÷åì äëÿ ýòîãî òðàòèòü äîðîãîå âðåìÿ ñ ïðåïîäîì? Ïîýòîìó, ÈÌÕÎ, ýòî î÷åíü ïîëåçíàÿ ïðîãà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
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>>óðîâåíü âõîäíîãî ñèãíàëà - áîëüøîé >>íàæèìóþ èãðàòü è àêòèâ - íè÷åãî íå âûðèñîâûâàåòñÿ > >óðîâåíü áîëüøîé âñå âðåìÿ èëè êîãäà ãîâîðèøü/ïîåøü â ìèê? >äîëæåí áûòü êîãäà ãîâîðèøü/ïîåøü. > >Êàêèå åñòü óñòðîéñòâà â ñïèñêå Âõîäíûõ Àóäèî Óñòðîéñòâ? >Êàêîå ó òåáÿ ñòîèò? >Êàêàÿ çâóêîâàÿ êàðòà? >Êîãäà íàæèìàåøü Òåñò, â ñòàòóñå ÎÊ èëè îøèáêà? Åñëè îøèáêà, òî êàêàÿ? >Åñòü-ëè îøèáêè â ôàéëå precisetone.log? åñëè äà òî âûøëè. > >ñïàñèáî!
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 12.01.2010 09:44 |
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Äåìîêðàò, íó ìîã áû, ¸ïò, ëîã â ëè÷êó âûñëàòü. Íàôèãà íàì òóò ýòîò áàã òðåéñèíã íà ôîðóìå âîêàëèñòîâ-òî? | |
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Âû ìíå ïèñàëè. Íå îòïèðàéòåñü...
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 12.01.2010 18:13 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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Äåìîêðàò, ÿ îòïðàâèë îòâåò â ëè÷êó. | |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 18.01.2010 05:27 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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Âûïóùåíà íîâàÿ ïîäâåðñèÿ 1.1.2 - Äîáàâëåíà ïîääåðæêà ðàçëè÷íûõ ðåéòîâ ñýìïëèðîâàíèÿ, íå òîëüêî 44100 êàê ðàíüøå. (Ýòî èç-çà ÷åãî ó Äåìîêðàòà íå ðàáîòàëî) - Äîáàâëåí âûáîð ïîðòîâ ââîäà íåïîñðåäñòâåííî â óñòàíîâêàõ ïðîãðàììû. - Äîáàâëåíà åõå ñòàðòîâàëêà äëÿ Âèíäîâç - "Ïèàíèíî" èìååò áîëåå ðåàëèñòè÷íûé îòêëèê. - Ñäåëàíû ðàçëè÷íûå âèçóàëüíûå óëó÷øåíèÿ èíòåðôåéñà - ïî÷èùåíû íåêîòîðûå áàãè Êà÷àåì êàê âñåãäà îòñþäà Ñëåäóþùèå óëó÷øåíèÿ - ðàáîòàþ íàä àëãîðèòìîì äåòåêòèðîâàíèÿ - äîáàâëþ òðåê àóäèî èëè ìèäè àêêîìïàíåìåíòà - äîáàâëþ ëåíòó ñ íîòíûì ñòàíîì è íîòàìè - äîáàâëþ íîòíûé ðåäàêòîð â ãåíåðàòîð ãàìì - äîáàâëþ çàïèñü íàïåòîãî àóäèî òðåêà - ìîæåò åùå ÷åãî äîáàâëþ... - äóìàþ îá óïðîùåííîé ðåäàêöèè äëÿ äåòåé. |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 18.01.2010 09:38 |
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Âû ìíå ïèñàëè. Íå îòïèðàéòåñü...
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 18.01.2010 13:46 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Áàñ-ãèòàðà
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 23.01.2010 01:31 |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîãà äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè èíòîíèðîâàíèÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 24.01.2010 03:07 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Âîêàë 
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   >- äóìàþ îá óïðîùåííîé ðåäàêöèè äëÿ äåòåé. 
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