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Øêîëà ðàçíèòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî áàðèòîí äîëæåí óäåðæèâàòü ãðóäíîé çâóê íà ïðîòÿæåíèè âñåãî äèàïàçîíà, à òåíîðû íà ñâîèõ êðàéíèõ âåðõàõ ïîëíîñòüþ óõîäÿò â ãîëîâó. È â Àêàäåìå, è â ýñòðàäå. Åñëè áàðèòîí áóäåò ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ òåíîðîâîé, ìèêñòîâîé òåõíèêîé, òî îí òîæå çàëåçåò â 2-îêòàâó, íî ìåíåå óáåäèòåëüíî. Òîæå ìîãó ïîäòâåðäèòü ïðèìåðàìè.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHFY8khqF9M - Áàðèòîí ïî¸ò 2-îêòàâó óäåðæèâàÿ çâóê â ãîëîâå è ìèêñòóÿ ñ ãðóäíûì ðåçîíàíñîì.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPC2Fp7IT7o - Áàðèòîí äàâèò ñâîè êðàéíèå âåðõà íà çàæèìàõ íå ïîïàäàÿ â ãîëîâó. Ëÿ â ïðèïåâå.
Áàðèòîí ïîþùèé â çàäðàíîé ïîçèöèè ïðàêòè÷åñêè íå èñïîëüçóþùèé ãðóäíîé ðåçîíàíñ, ïðåäïî÷òèòåëüíî çâó÷àùèé â ãîëîâå. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDhh3DfbiCo

Ïðèìåðà òåíîðîâ íå âëàäåþùèõ ãîëîâîé ÿ ëè÷íî íå çíàþ, åñëè íàéä¸òå ýòî áóäåò ðåä÷àéøåå èñêëþ÷åíèå.
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Äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ïîíÿòü êàðäèíàëüíîå ðàçëè÷èå ìåæäó áàðèòîíîâîé è òåíîðîâîé øêîëîé íàäî ñòîëêíóòüñÿ ñ ãîëîñîì ãðàíè÷àùèì ìåæäó íèìè. Òî áèøü, íèçêèì òåíîðîì èëè âûñîêèì áàðèòîíîì. È ñðàçó ïîéì¸øü, ÷òî øêîëû è ïîäõîä ðàçíûå.
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Serj Anto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHFY8khqF9M - Áàðèòîí ïî¸ò 2-îêòàâó óäåðæèâàÿ çâóê â ãîëîâå è ìèêñòóÿ ñ ãðóäíûì ðåçîíàíñîì.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPC2Fp7IT7o - Áàðèòîí äàâèò ñâîè êðàéíèå âåðõà íà çàæèìàõ íå ïîïàäàÿ â ãîëîâó. Ëÿ â ïðèïåâå.
Áàðèòîí ïîþùèé â çàäðàíîé ïîçèöèè ïðàêòè÷åñêè íå èñïîëüçóþùèé ãðóäíîé ðåçîíàíñ, ïðåäïî÷òèòåëüíî çâó÷àùèé â ãîëîâå. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDhh3DfbiCo


Áðî, òû òàê íàïèñàë ïðî íèõ - "äàâèò âåðõà", "â çàäðàííîé ïîçèöèè" . Çâó÷èò íåãàòèâíî, íàðîä åùå ïîäóìàåò, ÷òî ýòî îé êàê ïëîõî, ÷òî íå íàäî òàê äåëàòü. Íàäî óïîìÿíóòü, ÷òî âñå íîðìàëüíî, ÷òî òàêîå ïåíèå íå ìåøàåò ëþäÿì äîáèâàòüñÿ ìèðîâîé èçâåñòíîñòè è ñîáèàðòü äåñÿòêè ìèëëèîíîâ ïðîñìîòðîâ íà þòüþáå. Ýñòðàäà æ :4:
"Íè óñïåõ, íè ïîðàæåíèå íå èìåþò çíà÷åíèÿ òàì, ãäå ðå÷ü èäåò îá èñòèííîì ïðèçâàíèè"
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>Áðî, òû òàê íàïèñàë ïðî íèõ - "äàâèò âåðõà", "â çàäðàííîé ïîçèöèè" . Çâó÷èò íåãàòèâíî, íàðîä åùå ïîäóìàåò, ÷òî ýòî îé êàê ïëîõî, ÷òî íå íàäî òàê äåëàòü. Íàäî óïîìÿíóòü, ÷òî âñå íîðìàëüíî, ÷òî òàêîå ïåíèå íå ìåøàåò ëþäÿì äîáèâàòüñÿ ìèðîâîé èçâåñòíîñòè è ñîáèàðòü äåñÿòêè ìèëëèîíîâ ïðîñìîòðîâ íà þòüþáå. Ýñòðàäà æ
Íååå, êîíå÷íî âñå ïåðå÷èñëåíûå ìíîþ î÷åíü êðóòû è ÿ ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì èõ ñëóøàþ. Ïðîñòî êîíñòàòèðóþ ôàêòû. :sm1:
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ß ñàì â ñàáæåâîé çàïèñè ####åö êàê äàâëþ âåðõà, õîòÿ ìîãó ñïåòü èõ ïîëó-àêàäåìè÷íî))) Âñ¸ â ðàìêàõ æàíðà)
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>áàðèòîí äîëæåí óäåðæèâàòü ãðóäíîé çâóê íà ïðîòÿæåíèè âñåãî äèàïàçîíà
Îòêóäà âñå ýòî áåðåòñÿ? Ýòî âû ñàìè ïðèäóìàëè.
>Åñëè áàðèòîí áóäåò ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ òåíîðîâîé, ìèêñòîâîé òåõíèêîé, òî îí òîæå çàëåçåò â 2-îêòàâó, íî ìåíåå óáåäèòåëüíî.
Õç êó÷à áàðèòîíîâ ïîþò âî âòîðîé îêòàâå óáåäèòåëüíî.
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>>áàðèòîí äîëæåí óäåðæèâàòü ãðóäíîé çâóê íà ïðîòÿæåíèè âñåãî äèàïàçîíà
>Îòêóäà âñå ýòî áåðåòñÿ? Ýòî âû ñàìè ïðèäóìàëè.
Åñëè âû ýòî îòðèöàåòå, âû â ïðèíöèïå íå ïîíèìàåòå, â ÷¸ì îòëè÷èå áàðèòîíà îò òåíîðà äëÿ âàñ è òå, è äðóãèå îäíî###ñòâåííû. Ñóäÿ ïî âàøèì ðàññóæäåíèÿì ó âàñ âîîáùå íåòó îïûòà îáùåíèÿ ñ ïðåäñòàâèòåëÿìè îáåèõ òèïîâ ñðåäè ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûõ âîêàëèñòîâ.

>Õç êó÷à áàðèòîíîâ ïîþò âî âòîðîé îêòàâå óáåäèòåëüíî.
Åñëè âû áóäåòå âíèìàòåëüíåå ÷èòàòü, òî óâèäèòå, ÷òî ÿ ñêàçàë, "ìåíåå óáåäèòåëüíî", à íå "íå óáåäèòåëüíî"

ÏÑ. Î÷åíü ãëóïàÿ ìàíåðà îáùåíèÿ âñ¸ ïîäðÿä îòðèöàòü, íå ïîäêðåïëÿÿ ñåáÿ ôàêòàìè è àðãóìåíòàìè.
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×òîáû ïîíÿòü â ÷¸ì ðàçíèöà øêîë ó áàðèòîíà è òåíîð äîñòàòî÷íî óâèäåòü 2 âèäåî.
Äðàìàòè÷åñêèé òåíîð - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzb9uwfgD1w
Ëèðè÷åñêèé áàðèòîí - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba2upsOPnWU&list=P LzckWWrxDv9LDGaVs7tNQFd0WrxIA8...tNQFd0WrxIA8soW
Õîðîøî ñëûøíî, ÷òî Êîðåëëè (äðàìòåíîð) î÷åíü ñèëüíî âûçâó÷èâàåò ãîëîâó, îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå íà õàðàêòåðíûé "ïðèñâèñò" â ãîëîñå. Íà ìèìêó âîêàëèñòà, êîòîðàÿ ïîäñêàçûâàåò íàì, ÷òî îí äåëàåò. ×åëþñòü îïóùåíà â ìåðó, ðàáîòà å¸ äîñòàòî÷íî ñòàòíàÿ, êðîòêàÿ.

Õýìïñîí (ëèðè÷åñêèé áàðèòîí) íàñòîëüêî ñèëüíî ãîëîâó íå âûçâó÷èâàåò, çàòî ó íåãî õàðàêòåðíûé ãðóäíîé ôîí â ãîëîñå (Áóä-òî ñêîâü âàòó çâó÷èò ãîëîñ), çà ñ÷¸ò î÷åíü ãëóáîêî óòîïëåííîé, âûïàâøåé ÷åëþñòè è îïóùåííîìó ðå÷åâîìó àïïàðàòó.

À ôàêòè÷åñêàÿ ðàçíèöà â øêîëàõ, òàê êàê ëèð áàðèòîí è äðàì òåíîð, îò ïðèðîäû áëèçêè äðóã-äðóãó, äàæå çà÷àñòóþ ìàëî îòëè÷àåìû îò ïðèðîäû.
Äóìàéòå ñàìè äàëåå.
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Øêîëà ðàçíèòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî áàðèòîí äîëæåí óäåðæèâàòü ãðóäíîé çâóê íà ïðîòÿæåíèè âñåãî äèàïàçîíà, à òåíîðû íà ñâîèõ êðàéíèõ âåðõàõ ïîëíîñòüþ óõîäÿò â ãîëîâó. È â Àêàäåìå, è â ýñòðàäå. Åñëè áàðèòîí áóäåò ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ òåíîðîâîé, ìèêñòîâîé òåõíèêîé, òî îí òîæå çàëåçåò â 2-îêòàâó, íî ìåíåå óáåäèòåëüíî. Òîæå ìîãó ïîäòâåðäèòü ïðèìåðàìè.

Âèäèìî òû ïëîõî ïîíèìàåøü, ïîêà åùå, î ÷åì ãîâîðèøü.
Áàñ-áàðèòîí http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE9S5Q_2tg4, îí æå http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wj3qlOZRDE
Áàðèòîí http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUKp-uwCbqg, îí æå ñ 1.20 òîëüêî âàêàë http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi6wT5m7PJ4
Âñå åùå äóìàåøü, ÷òî òèïû ãîëîñîâ ÷òî òî çíà÷àò? Ïðàâèëüíî, çíà÷àò - à èìåííî òî, ÷òî ÷åì íèæå òâîé ãîëîñ, òåì êðó÷å òû áóäåøü çâó÷àòü íà âåðõàõ ïðè ïðàâèëüíîé òåõíèêå ìèêñò. Òàê ÷òî íàðîä, çàêàí÷èâàéòå ñ ýòèì îáñàñûâàíèåì òèïîâ è èäèòå çàíèìàòüñÿ.
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Êðèñ Êîðíåëë 100% ëèðè÷åñêèé áàðèòîí è âñåãäà èì áûë, è âåçäå çâó÷èò êàê ëèðè÷åñêèé áàðèòîí. ß çíàþ âñ¸ åãî òâîð÷åñòâî íà 100% ïðîöåíòîâ)) Ïðî åãî óíèêàëüíóþ óáåäèòåëüíîñòü âî 2-îé îêòàâå íè÷åãî ãîâîðèòü íå íàäî. ß çíàþ)

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Êðèñ Êîðíåëë 100% ëèðè÷åñêèé áàðèòîí è âñåãäà èì áûë, è âåçäå çâó÷èò êàê ëèðè÷åñêèé áàðèòîí. ß çíàþ âñ¸ åãî òâîð÷åñòâî íà 100% ïðîöåíòîâ)) Ïðî åãî óíèêàëüíóþ óáåäèòåëüíîñòü âî 2-îé îêòàâå íè÷åãî ãîâîðèòü íå íàäî. ß çíàþ)

Òû ÷å ñëåïîé? ß òåáå ñêèíóë âèäåî 2-õ ðàçíûõ ëþäåé, îäèí èç êîòîðûõ - áàñ-áàðèòîí. Ïïö.
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>÷òî ÷åì íèæå òâîé ãîëîñ, òåì êðó÷å òû áóäåøü çâó÷àòü íà âåðõàõ ïðè ïðàâèëüíîé òåõíèêå ìèêñò
×åì âûøå òâîé ãîëîñ, òåì áîëåå ýòî áóäåò ïîõîæå íà ãîëîñ ïîëíîöåííûé
×åì íèæå, òåì áîëåå ÿñíî áóäåò, ÷òî ýòî ìèêñò.
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>Òû ÷å ñëåïîé? ß òåáå ñêèíóë âèäåî 2-õ ðàçíûõ ëþäåé, îäèí èç êîòîðûõ - áàñ-áàðèòîí. Ïïö.
Õàõàõ! ×óâàê, ïðîâåðü ñâîè ññûëêè. Îíè âñå íà âîêàë Êîðíåëëà. Òàì íåò íè îäíîãî áàñ áàðèòîíà ïî ññûëêàì, òîò âèäîñ, ãäå ÷óâàê îòêðûâàåò ðîò ïîä àêàïåëëó Êîðíåëëà, ýòî ïîä ïëþñ è âûðåçàíûì îñòàëüíûì ìèíóñîì ïðîòèâîôàçîé))) Ýòî ÿ òåáå êàê çâóêîðåæèññ¸ð-ïðîôåññèîíàë ãîâîðþ. Âî âñåõ âèäîñàõ çâó÷èò êðîíåëë.
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È äàæå åñëè âäðóã ýòî íå êîðíåëëîâñêàÿ àêàïåëëà, à ðåàëüíî ÷åë ñ íàñòîëüêî èäåíòè÷íûì ãîëîñîì ÷óâàê íà âèäîñå íè êàêèì õðåíîì íå áàñ-áàðèòîí. Òàêîé æå ëèðè÷åñêèé áàðèòîí.
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×åì âûøå òâîé ãîëîñ, òåì áîëåå ýòî áóäåò ïîõîæå íà ãîëîñ ïîëíîöåííûé
×åì íèæå, òåì áîëåå ÿñíî áóäåò, ÷òî ýòî ìèêñò.

Òû ýòî Êåíó Òåìïëèíó ñêàæè)) Êîòîðûé êñòàòè òîæå áàðèòîí) È ê òîìó æå, ñëóøàòåëþ ïîõåðó, ÷òî ýòî ìèêñò èëè íå ìèêñò. Ôàêò îñòàåòñÿ ôàêòîì. Íèçêèå ãîëîñà ìîãóò çâó÷àòü ãîðàçäî ìîùíåå íà âûñîêèõ íîòàõ, ïîëüçóÿñü ïðàâèëüíîé òåõíèêîé. À âñå îñòàëüíîå - ïóñòàÿ áîëòîâíÿ. À êîãäà òû òàì ïåðåõîäèøü íà ìèêñò, íà ëÿ èëè íà ñè èëè íà ôà - çíà÷åíèÿ íå èìååò.
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:06 



Õàõàõ! ×óâàê, ïðîâåðü ñâîè ññûëêè. Îíè âñå íà âîêàë Êîðíåëëà. Òàì íåò íè îäíîãî áàñ áàðèòîíà ïî ññûëêàì, òîò âèäîñ, ãäå ÷óâàê îòêðûâàåò ðîò ïîä àêàïåëëó Êîðíåëëà, ýòî ïîä ïëþñ è âûðåçàíûì îñòàëüíûì ìèíóñîì ïðîòèâîôàçîé))) Ýòî ÿ òåáå êàê çâóêîðåæèññ¸ð-ïðîôåññèîíàë ãîâîðþ. Âî âñåõ âèäîñàõ çâó÷èò êðîíåëë.

Õðåíà, òû åùå è áåñòîëêîâûé çâóêàðü çíà÷èò, êîòîðûé íå ìîæåò äàæå äâà ãîëîñà îòëè÷èòü))) Âîò íàì òàêîé íåäàâíî òåëåãó ñâåë - ïïö äåðüìîâî!) Ýòî áûë òû íàâåðíî))
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:06 

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>èçêèå ãîëîñà ìîãóò çâó÷àòü ãîðàçäî ìîùíåå íà âûñîêèõ íîòàõ, ïîëüçóÿñü ïðàâèëüíîé òåõíèêîé.
Ñ ýòèì ÿ íå ñïîðèë, ÿ ãîâîðèë èìåííî ïðî òî, ÷òî ýòî áóäåò çâó÷àòü êàê áîëåå ÿâíûé ìèêñò. À ïðî ñèëó çâóêà ÿ íèêîãäà íå ãîâîðèë, ñèëà çâóêà âñåãäà ó íèçêèõ ãîëîñîâ ñèëüíåå.
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:08 

Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...

>Õðåíà, òû åùå è áåñòîëêîâûé çâóêàðü çíà÷èò, êîòîðûé íå ìîæåò äàæå äâà ãîëîñà îòëè÷èòü))) Âîò íàì òàêîé íåäàâíî òåëåãó ñâåë - ïïö äåðüìîâî!) Ýòî áûë òû íàâåðíî))
Ó âàñ ïðîñòî ìóçîí òàêîå#######ñêîðåå âñåãî, ÷òî åãî íèêòî ñâîäèòü íîðìàëüíî íå ñòàíåò. ;-)
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:09 

Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...

SNikolayP , Åñëè òû íàçâàë ýòîãî ÷óâàêà áàñ-áàðèòîíîì, òû ãîðàçäî ñèëüíåå îáëàæàëñÿ, ÷åì ÿ, åñëè äàæå ÿ íå ïðàâ ïðî àêàïåëëó.
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:12 



SNikolayP , Åñëè òû íàçâàë ýòîãî ÷óâàêà áàñ-áàðèòîíîì, òû ãîðàçäî ñèëüíåå îáëàæàëñÿ, ÷åì ÿ, åñëè äàæå ÿ íå ïðàâ ïðî àêàïåëëó.
ß ñ íèì îáùàëñÿ ïî ïîâîäó âîêàëà, ïîâåðü, ÿ çíàþ î ÷åì ãîâîðþ. À ëèðè÷åñêèì áàðèòîíîì òóò è íå ïàõíåò.
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:12 

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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:13 

Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...

>ß ñ íèì îáùàëñÿ ïî ïîâîäó âîêàëà, ïîâåðü, ÿ çíàþ î ÷åì ãîâîðþ. À ëèðè÷åñêèì áàðèòîíîì òóò è íå ïàõíåò.
Íå âàæíî, îáùàëñÿ òû, èëè íåò ñ íèì. Áàñ áàðèòîíîì îí íå ñòàë îò ýòîãî)))
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:27 

Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...

PS Áàñ-áàðèòîí ñïåë-áû Ðå áîëüøîé îêòàâû, êîòîðàÿ â ýòîé ïåñíå) Ýòîò ÷óâàê å¸ äàæå íå ñìîã å¸ âûçâó÷èòü íèêàê, â èòîãå ïîõóæå Êîðíåëëà)
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:31 



Íå âàæíî, îáùàëñÿ òû, èëè íåò ñ íèì. Áàñ áàðèòîíîì îí íå ñòàë îò ýòîãî)))
Î÷åíü êðóòîé àðãóìåíò. Êîðî÷å ìíå ñèòóàöèÿ âïîëíå ÿñíà. Âèäèìî òû íà÷èòàëñÿ ãäå-òî ñîìíèòåëüíîé ëèòåðàòóðû, èëè íàñèäåëñÿ íà ôîðóìå, à òåïåðü ÷òî òî ïûòàåøüñÿ äîêàçàòü.  îáùåì ðàçãîâîð íå î ÷åì, äóìàþ íà ýòîì ñòîèò åãî è çàâåðøèòü, íó à òû ìîæåøü ñ÷èòàòü êîãî óãîäíî òåíîðîì, áàðèòîíîì èëè áàñîì, ýòî òâîå ëè÷íîå âîñïðèÿòèå ðåàëüíîñòè. Êàêàÿ òåáå êëàññèôèêàöèÿ ãîëîñà, êîãäà òû äàæå íå ïîíÿë, ÷òî ðàçíûå ëþäè íà âèäîñàõ ïîþò))) Òàê ÷òî âðåìÿ òðàòèòü íà äîêàçûâàíèå î÷åâèäíîãî ìíå íå õî÷åòñÿ. Ãëàâíîå ÿ ñêèíóë ïðèìåðû áàðèòîíîâ, êîòîðûå íà âåðõàõ çâó÷àò ìîùíåå òåíîðîâ, íàäåþñü ýòî ìîòèâèðóåò çàíèìàòüñÿ è íå íûòü, ÷òî "ÿ íå òåíîð, ÿ òàê âûñîêî íå ñìîãó".
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:35 

Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...

SNikolayP , Òû ëó÷øå ïîêàçàë áû çàïèñü, êàê òû çâó÷èøü, ïðåæäå, ÷åì âûñîêîìåðíè÷àòü, îíà áû ìîæåò áûòü íàñ è ðàññóäèëà. ×åì ìèçäàáîëèòü è ïûòàòüñÿ óëè÷àòü ìåíÿ â òîì, ÷åãî ñàì íå çíàåøü â ïîìèíå è çàíèìàòü ïîçèöèþ èíòåëëåêòóàëüíîé æåðòâû)))
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:38 

Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...

×óâàê èç âèäåî òàê ïëîõî èíòîíèðóåò â íèçàõ, ÷òî åãî ãîëîñ èäåíòèôèöèðîâàòü íåâîçìîæíî, ê òîìó æå îí íå ïî¸ò íèãäå ñåðåäèíó. Ëþáîé ïðîôåññèîíàë òåáå ñêàæåò, ÷òî òåìáð ãîëîñà ïîçíà¸òñÿ ïî ïåâ÷åñêîé ñåðåäèíå, à íå ïî ìèêñòó è áóáíåíèþ íåçâó÷àùèõ íèçîâ)))
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 11:43 

Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...

>Êàêàÿ òåáå êëàññèôèêàöèÿ ãîëîñà, êîãäà òû äàæå íå ïîíÿë, ÷òî ðàçíûå ëþäè íà âèäîñàõ ïîþò)))
Òû áû ñàì íå îòëè÷èë, åñëè áû íå çíàë çàðàíåå... òàê ÷òî íå íàäî ####åòü. Òåì áîëåå ÷óâàê î÷åíü ñèëüíî êîñèò ïîä Êîðíåëëà, âïëîòü äî äèêöèè.
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Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2014 12:02 

Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...

SNikolayP ,
Ïîñëóøàë åãî ëåíòó, âíèìàòåëüíî, íàø¸ë, ãäå îí ïî¸ò íîðìàëüíóþ ñåðåäèíó. Ñîãëàñåí, íèçêèé áàðèòîí, áåðó ñâîè ñëîâà îáðàòíî íàñ÷¸ò ëèðè÷åñêîãî.  îñòàëüíîì ìî¸ ìíåíèå â ñèëå.
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