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Òåìà: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 27.01.2007 18:01 



ARCH ENEMY Frontwoman Offers 'Screaming' Tips - Aug. 2, 2006

ARCH ENEMY frontwoman Angela Gossow has posted the following message on her MySpace page:

"This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..

"My short-cut vocal advice:

"Get some singing teaching/vocal coaching for the basics. i.e. breathing techniques, warm-ups. You have to use diaphragm breathing and rip-cage/back breathing. No chest-breathing and raised shoulders please!

"If you can't afford lessons, go and buy the DVD 'The Zen Of Screaming' from Melissa Cross. It's ram-packed with info, tips, explanations and artist features. You can order it at www.melissacross.com.

"Screaming/growling involves the vocal cords, but also the false cords. Make sure you got good control over them. Do plenty of exercise, which should also include melodic singing.

"Keep you body and your voice healthy. Smoking is not a good idea and so is drinking alcohol in large amounts. It eventually makes your vocal cords more vulnerable. Do sports (great for stamina and lung function) and eat healthy. Very spicy, fried or sugary food irritates the throat, causes acid reflux (number one cause for voice disorders!) and weakens your muscles. And vocal cords are muscles!

"Find out your range. If you are a soprano, don't try to sound like Chris Barnes. If you are an alto, approach those black metal screams with care.

"Get a good P.A. for the rehearsal room. Screaming is loud. Yes, I do not believe in muted screaming! But if you scream too hard you strain your throat unnecessarily and you will likely get sore. Or you start to bleed. Then run to the doctor. You have a hemorrhage on your chords!

"If you are sick, try not to scream. If you have to anyway (playing a show), try to avoid talking during the day and warm up your voice properly. Drink plenty of warm water with honey. It soothes the inflammation. If you get really bad, get a steroid shot to reduce the swelling on the cords and antibiotics to stop the inflammation. This is a last resort though this stuff is really, really bad for your health!

"If you suffer from allergies and asthma (like I do), make sure you are on the right medication. Some asthma sprays make you hoarse and more prone to colds, irritations etc. Try out a few, until you find the right one. Take antihistamines if you suffer from airborne allergies and have to perform outside or in a very dusty environment. Avoid passive smoking.

"Enjoy what you do, scream out your frustration, anger, whatever but always stay controlled. Never push too hard, especially live. I do it plenty though, its so much fun. I try to restrict it to the last shows of a tour, where I am allowed to blow my voice out a little, hehe. But only if I know I have a two-week break after that and plenty of time for voice recovery!

"Go to an ENT once a year and have your vocal cords and larynx checked. If you are constantly hoarse or you suddenly lose your upper range, you are very likely developing nodules. Stop immediately with the screaming and seek professional advice: first a doctor, then a vocal coach. You are doing something wrong. Maybe it's not the way you sing/scream, but more the way you talk!

"Stay metal! Boyish singing in the chorus is for emo kids. I love clean vocals but only the raw metal style. Rob Halford is one of my faves.

"These are just tips and no 'must-dos.' You can do whatever you like, really. These tips are interesting, if you are just starting out or you are experience trouble with your voice."




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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 27.01.2007 18:06 



ïîëåçíàÿ èíôà
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âîêàëèñò îáÿçàí âñå ýòî çíàòü
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 28.01.2007 16:30 



:idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 28.01.2007 21:23 
Ìîñêâà
bass, wind, chords

"Enjoy what you do, scream out your frustration, anger, whatever but always stay controlled. Never push too hard, especially live"

- Èíîãäà íå òåðÿòü êîíòðîëü òðóäíî :) Ïðîñòî íàñòîëüêî âñ¸ ýòî çàõâàòûâàåò :) è åù¸ êîãäà âèäèøü ðåàêöèþ ñëóøàòåëåé... òîãäà ïîíèìàåøü, ÷òî.. âîò îíî! :D È ðàäè íèõ ìîæíî ðèñêóíòü çäîðîâüåì :)))

Äåìîêðàò, ýòó ñòàòüþ ïåðåâåñòè áû è âûëîæèòü â ÔÀÊ'å, êàê äóìàåøü?

ß âîîáùå-òî ìîãó ïåðåâåñòè, ìíå íå òðóäíî. Åñëè êîìó íàäî... :)
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 28.01.2007 22:21 

Vox,Keys

Alien
ìíå íðàâèòñÿ òâîÿ èäåÿ.äóìàþ ìíîãèì ýòî ïîìîæåò íå âñå çíàþò àíãëèéñêèé
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Âðåìÿ: 28.01.2007 23:19 

Vocal

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Óãó. À òåïåðü âûíèìàéòå.
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 05:21 
guest



Ëþáîïûíî óçíàòü î ÷åì ãîâîðèò èíîñòðàíåö?
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 18:15 
Ìîñêâà
bass, wind, chords

Î, âîçðàäóéòåñü, ëþäè :) Ñòàòüÿ ïåðåâåäåíà è áóäåò âûëîæåíà â ÔÀÊå. Õâàëà Áîãàì :D
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 19:36 

Vox,Keys

Alien
à ãäå ôàê íàéòè???
ÿ òàêîãî ðàçäåëà íå íàøåë
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 20:30 
Ìîñêâà
bass, wind, chords

Àêýíäæåë, ëîâè http://www.musicforums.ru/vocal/browse_thread.php?bn=mfor_vocal&thread=1144606942&replies=6
Óñïåøíîãî îñâîåíèÿ :)
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 20:42 

Vox,Keys

ñïàñèáî)
ÿ äóìàë ýòî êàêàÿ-òî âåòêà òèïà Êëàâèøè áåñåäû.ãèòàðà êóïëþ ïðîäàì)
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2007 17:22 



âûêëàäûâàé êîíå÷íî!
ìíîãèì ýòî áóäåò ïîëåçíî ( â òîì ÷èñëå è ìíå)
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Âðåìÿ: 01.02.2007 16:57 
Ìîñêâà
bass, wind, chords

Ñâåòëàíå íàïèñàëà, îíà ìîë÷èò. À åñëè ÿ ñåé÷àñ çàéäó â ÔÀÊ è ïðÿìî òàì îòïèøóñü, ïî øàïêå ïîëó÷ó, äà? :D Ëàäíî, êîðî÷å, îòïèñûâàþñü ÿ òàì, âñåì ÷èòàòü :)
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 01.02.2007 17:22 
Ìîñêâà
bass, wind, chords

Àíæåëëà Ãîññîó (ôðîíòâóìýí ãðóïïû Àð÷ Ýíåìè):

"Ýòà ñòàòüÿ-îòâåò äëÿ âñåõ òåõ, êòî ïèøåò ìíå ñ ïðîñüáîé ðàññêàçàòü î ñåêðåòàõ ìîåãî ïåíèÿ ñêðèìîì. Íàäåþñü, Âû íàéä¸òå íåêóþ ïîëåçíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ çäåñü...

Èòàê, ìîé ñîâåò:

Ïîëó÷èòå áàçîâóþ òåõíèêó ïåíèÿ clean vocals, èìååòñÿ â âèäó äûõàòåëüíûå óïðàæíåíèÿ è ðàñïåâêè. Âû äîëæíû íàó÷èòüñÿ èñïîëüçîâàòü äèàôðàãìåíòàëüíîå è ñïèííîå äûõàíèå. Âû íå äîëæíû äûøàòü ãðóäüþ ïðè ïåíèè ñ ðàñùåïëåíèåì, Âàøè ïëå÷è íå äîëæíû ïîäíèìàòüñÿ ââåðõ.

Åñëè ó Âàñ íåò âîçìîæíîñòè áðàòü óðîêè ó ïðåïîäîâàòåëÿ, êóïèòå ÄÂÄ 'The Zen Of Screaming' îò Ìåëëèñû Êðîññ. Íà ýòîì äèñêå Âû íàéä¸òå èíôîðìàöèþ ïî òåõíèêå ðàñùåïëåíèÿ, ïîäñêàçêè, îáúÿñíåíèÿ. Âû ìîæåòå çàêàçàòü ýòî çäåñü www.melissacross.com.

 ðàñùåïëåíèè ó÷àñòâóþò ãîëîñîâûå ñâÿçêè, íî òàêæå è ëîæíûå. Óäîñòîâåðüòåñü, ÷òî Âû õîðîøî êîíòðîëèðóåòå è òå, è äðóãèå. Ïåðåä ïåíèåì ñêðèìîì/ãðîóëèíãîì ïðîäåëûâàéòå ðàçëè÷íûå âîêàëüíûå óïðàæíåíèÿ, êîòîðûå òàê æå äîëæíû âêëþ÷àòü â ñåáÿ è ïåíèå ÷èñòûì ãîëîñîì.

Ñòàðàéòåñü ñîõðàíÿòü ñâî¸ òåëî è ñâîé ãîëîñ çäîðîâûìè. Êóðåíèå âðåäèò ãîëîñîâîìó àïïàðàòó, òî æå âîçäåéñòâèå îêàçûâàåò è óïîòðåáëåíèå àëêîãîëÿ â áîëüøèõ êîëëè÷åñòâàõ. Ýòî äåëàåò Âàøè ñâÿçêè áîëåå óÿçâèòåëüíûìè. Çàíèìàéòåñü ñïîðòîì (ýòî ïîâûñèò Âàøó âûíîñëèâîñòü è óëó÷øèò ôóíêöèîíèðîâàíèå ë¸ãêèõ) è åøüòå çäîðîâóþ ïèùó. Î÷åíü îñòðàÿ, æèðíàÿ è ñëàäêàÿ ïèùà ðàçäðàæàåò ãîðòàíü, âûçûâàåò áîëüøåå âûäåëåíèå æåëóäî÷íîãî ñîêà è ðàññëàáëÿåò ìûøöû. À ãîëîñîâûå ñâÿçêè - ýòî òîæå ìûøöû!

Îïðåäåëèòå ñâîé äèàïàçîí è òèï ãîëîñà. åñëè Âû - ñîïðàíî, íå ïûòàéòåñü äîáèòüñÿ ãðîóëèíãà, êàê ó Êðèñà Áàðíñà. È åñëè Âû - àëüò, áóäüòå îñòîðîæíåå ñî ñêðèìîì.

Ïîäáåðèòå ðåïåòèöèîííîå ïîìåùåíèå ñ õîðîøåé àêóñòèêîé. Ñêðèì çâó÷èò î÷åíü ãðîìêî. Äà, ÿ íå âåðþ â ïðèãëóø¸ííûé ñêðèì. Íî åñëè Âû ïûòàåòåñü ïåòü ñëèøêîì ãðîìêî, ïåðåíàïðÿãàåòåñü, Âû ìîæåòå ïî÷óâñòâîâàòü ÷òî ñ Âàøèì ãîëîñîì ÷òî-òî íå òàê, âîçíèêàåò òàêîå îùóùåíèå ÷òî Âû ïðîñòóæåíû. Èëè ó Âàñ îòêðîåòñÿ êðîâîòå÷åíèå. Íåìåäëåííî îáðàòèòåñü ê äîêòîðó.

Åñëè Âû ïðîñòóæåíû ñòàðàéòåñü íå ïåòü. Åñëè æå Âû äîëæíû ïåòü âî ÷òî áû òî íè ñòàëî (ó Âàñ, ê ïðèìåðó, êîíöåðò), ñòàðàéòåñü â òå÷åíèå äíÿ íå ðàçãîâàðèâàòü è õîðîøî ðàçîãðåòüñÿ ïåðåä êîíöåðòîì. Ïåéòå ïîáîëüøå ò¸ïëîé âîäû ñ ì¸äîì. Ýòî ñìÿã÷èò ãîðëî. Åñëè æå Âû ÷óâñòâóåòå ñåáÿ ñîâñåì ïëîõî, òî âîñïîëüçóéòåñü àíòèáèîòèêàìè, ýòî ñíèìåò âîñïàëåíèå. Ýòî ïîñëåäíåå ñðåäñòâî, íî ýòî î÷åíü ïëîõî îòðàçèòñÿ íà Âàøåì çäîðîâüå, áóäüòå îñòîðîæíû!

Åñë Âû ñòðàäàåòå àëëåðãèåé èëè àñòìîé (êàê ÿ), óäîñòîâåðüòåñü â òîì, ÷òî Âû èñïîëüçóåòå ïðàâèëüíûå ìåäèêàìåíòû. Ïîñëå èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ íåêîòîðûõ ñïðýåâ, ïðåäîòâðàùàþùèõ ïðèñòóïû àñòìû, Âû ìîæåòå îõðèïíóòü, ëåãêî ïðîñòûòü, ýòî ìîæåò îêàçàòü ðàçäðàæàþùèé ýôôåêò íà ñëèçèñòóþ îáîëî÷êó íîñîãëîòêè. Ïðîáóéòå íîâîå ñðåäñòâî ïîíåìíîãó, ïîêà íå íàéä¸òå ïîäõîäÿùåå èìåííî Âàì. Âîñïîëüçóéòåñü àíòèãèñòàìèííûìè ñðåäñòâàìèþ åñëè ó Âàñ èìååòñÿ àëëåðãèÿ íà ïûëü è Âàì ïðèõîäèòñÿ âûñòóïàòü â î÷åíü ïûëüíîé îáñòàíîâêå. Îñòåðåãàéòåñü ïàññèâíîãî êóðåíèÿ.

Ëþáèòå òî, ÷òî Âû äåëàåòå, â êðèêå ñòàðàéòåñü âûðàçèòü ñâî¸ ðàçî÷àðîâàíèå, ãíåâ, áîëü, íî íå òåðÿéòå êîíòðîëü íàä ïåíèåì. Íå ïåðåíàïðÿãàéòåñü, îñîáåííî íà æèâûõ âûñòóïëåíèÿõ. Èíîãäà ÿ ñëèøêîì ýìîöèîíàëüíî ïîþ, ýòî òàê çäîðîâî. Íî ÿ ñòàðàþñü îñòàâèòü âñ¸ ýòî äî ïîñëåäíåãî âûñòóïëåíèÿ â òóðå, òîãäà ÿ ìîãó ïîçâîëèòü ñåáå è ïðîñòî ïîêðè÷àòü, õå-õå :-) . Íî ÿ ïîçâîëÿþ ñåáå ýòî, åñëè òîëüêî óâåðåíà â òîì, ÷òî ïîñëå ýòîãî âûñòóïëåíèÿ ó ìåíÿ áóäåò 2-3 íåäåëüíûõ îòäûõ è ìíîãî âðåìåíè íà âîññòàíîâëåíèå ãîëîñà.

Ïîñåùàéòå ïîëèêëèííèêó ðàç â ãîä, ÷òîáû ïðîâåðèòü ñîñòîÿíèå ñâÿçîê è ãîðòàíè. Åñëè ïîñëå ðåïåòèöèé Âàø ãîëîñ õðèïíåò èëè Âû íåîæèäàííî òåðÿåòå ãîëîñ, òî ýòî ïîâîä äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû ïîñåòèòü âðà÷à. Íåìåäëåííî ïðåêðàùàéòå ñâîè çàíÿòèÿ ñêðèìîì è ñëåäóéòå ïðîôåññèîíàëüíîìó ñîâåòó: ñïåðâà äîêòîð, à çàòåì âîêàëüíûå óïðàæíåíèÿ ñ ïåäàãîãîì. Âû äåëàåòå ÷òî-òî íå òàê.

Îñòàâàéòåñü âåðíûìè ñâîåìó ñòèëþ. Ïåíèå ñ çàêîñîì ïîä ïàðíÿ â ïðèïåâàõ - ýòî äëÿ ýìî! ß ëþáëþ ÷èñòîå ïåíèå, íî òîëüêî â òàêîì ñûðîì ìåòàë-ñòèëå. Ðîá Õàëôîðä îäèí èç ìîèõ ëþáèìûõ âîêàëèñòîâ.

Ýòî âñåãî ëèøü ñîâåòû-ïîäñêàçêè, à íå òî ÷òî Âû îáÿçàòåëüíî äîëæíû äåëàòü. Âû ìîæåòå ïîñòóïàòü, êàê õîòèòå. Âñ¸ îïèñàííîå áóäåò èíòåðåñíî Âàì, åñëè Âû òîëüêî íà÷èíàåòå îñâàèâàòü ýòó òåõíèêó èëè åñëè ó Âàñ óæå åñòü íåóäà÷íûé îïûò â îñâîåíèè ñêðèìà.
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 01.02.2007 17:32 



ñïñ
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 26.02.2007 18:17 
Îò ìåíÿ Ðåâîëüò ñáåæàë
è ìèêðîôîí

:)
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Òåìà: Re: "This is for everybody who is sending me the 'screaming advice' requests. I hope you find some useful info here..
Âðåìÿ: 27.02.2007 12:57 
Ìîñêâà
drums

ãóóä
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!