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Òåìà: Ãðîìêîñòü
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Êèåâ ãèòàðà, âîêàë 
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Òàêîé âîïðîñ:ïîþ íà ðåïå-çâó÷èò òèõî...ïðèõîäèòüñÿ ãàñèòü ðåáÿòàì çâóê, ÷å á áîëåå-ìåíåå ìíó ñëûøíî áûëî... ÷åì ïðîáëåìà?Îïîðà?Äûõàíèå?Ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà! |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 25.10.2008 23:45 |
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ïîêà ÷òî - ñòàâü êîìïðåññèíã)) à êàê ñòàâèòü ãîëîñ - ýòî ê ïðîôåññèîíàëàì. ÿ ñàìîó÷êà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 25.10.2008 23:48 |
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Äîíåöê âîêàë/áàðèòîí
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Íó ýý, ìèêðîôîí, óñèëèòåëü íå ïðîáîâàë? Èëè òû áàðàáàíû ñ ãèòàðíûì ìîíèòîðîì ïåðåãîëîñèòü õî÷åøü? ×àé íå îïåðà  |
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Âû ìíå ïèñàëè. Íå îòïèðàéòåñü...
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 26.10.2008 12:15 |
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Ìîñêâà
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íåò, ïðîñòî ñèëû â ãîëîñå íå õâàòàò) õîòÿ ìîæåò è îáîðóäîâàíèå ïðîñòî ïëîõîå) åùå ìîæåò áûòü ÷òî òû ïî¸øü íà ÷àñòîòàõ, êîòîðûå ñëèâàþòñÿ ñ ãèòàðàìè - ïîêðóòè ýêâàëàéçåð - äîáàâü ñåðåäèíû - åñëè íå ïîìîæåò -óáåðè íåìíîãî ñåðåäèíû è äîáàâü âûñîêèõ (íó òóò îò ãîëîñà çàâèñèò). P/S: ðàíüøå ìåíÿ íà ïîëíóþ ãðîìêîñòü áûëî ïëîõî ñëûøíî, à òåïåðü íà ñðåäíåé ãðîìêîñòè çà ìíîé ìîæåò áûòü íå ñëûøíîî ìíîãèõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ)))) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 26.10.2008 13:39 |
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Ïîñòàðàéñÿ çàèìåòü ìîíèòîð âáëèçè, áàëàíñ âîîáùå ïðîáëåìàòè÷íàÿ òåìà, îñîáåííî íà ãàëèìûõ ðåïòî÷êàõ... Ñîâåò ìîãó äàòü îäèí - íå èãðàéòå íà ðåïåòèöèÿõ ãðîìêî... Ëó÷øå ïîæåðòâîâàòü äðàéâîì âî èìÿ õîðîøåãî áàëàíñà... |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 26.10.2008 17:32 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè 
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>Ñîâåò ìîãó äàòü îäèí - íå èãðàéòå íà ðåïåòèöèÿõ ãðîìêî... Ëó÷øå ïîæåðòâîâàòü äðàéâîì âî èìÿ õîðîøåãî áàëàíñà... àãà, ïîäè, óäåðæè âîøåäøåãî áàðàáàíåðà... äàæå ñ äåìïôèðîâàíûìè áàðàáàíàìè. à ïîä íåãî ãèòàðþãè ñòàâÿò ãðîìêîñòü òàê, ÷òî âîîáøå... à êîìïðåññîð ìîæåò âûçâàòü ôèäáàê. |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 26.10.2008 18:05 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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âîøåäøåãî â ðàæ áàðàáàíåðà. |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 27.10.2008 10:07 |
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Äîíåöê âîêàë/áàðèòîí
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Ñìîòðèì âòîðóþ ïîçèöèþ â ñïèñêå  |
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Âû ìíå ïèñàëè. Íå îòïèðàéòåñü...
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 27.10.2008 10:07 |
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Äîíåöê âîêàë/áàðèòîí
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Îé, íå ñþäà... |
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Âû ìíå ïèñàëè. Íå îòïèðàéòåñü...
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 27.10.2008 10:32 |
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Ìîñêâà Ïðàéä ëüâèö è òóøêà àíòèëîïû
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ïî ñàáæó: êóïèòü è ïîñòàâèòü â òàêîì ïîðÿäêå - ïîäàâèòåëü îáðàòíîé ñâÿçè, ëàìïîâûé ïðåàìï, êîìïðåññîð...  |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 27.10.2008 12:45 |
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>âîøåäøåãî â ðàæ áàðàáàíåðà. Íó òàäà íå êóé æàëîâàöà ) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 27.10.2008 14:40 |
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Ïðåõîäè â áàðäû. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 27.10.2008 17:31 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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À êàêîé âû ðåêîìåíäóåòå ïîäàâèòåëü ôèäáàêà? ÈÌÕÎ ïðàâèëüíûé ìèê íàäî. Ó ìåíÿ áûë êàêîé-òî íåäîðîãîé ñî âñåíàïðàâëåííîé äèàãðàììîé. Öåïëÿë âñå íà ñåáÿ. Åñëè êîìïðåññîðà ÷óòú äîáàâèò - âîîáùå òðóáà, âñå ñâèñòèò. Ïåòü áûëî íåâîçìîæíî. Îðåø, ðâåøñÿ, íî âñå ðàâíî íèêòî íå ñëûøèò. Ïîòîì ÿ âçÿë Øóð 58 Áåòà (ñóïåðêàðäèîèä). Ñòàëî ëó÷øå. Ôèäáàê îòîøåë, ñòàëî õîòü ñëûøíî. Íåäàâíî âçÿë Àóäèêñ ÎÌ5 (ãèïåðêàðäèîèä). Åùå íå ïðîáîâàë. À ôèäáàê-ïîäàâèòåëè ðåáÿòà ïðîáîâàëè, ñäàëè íàçàä. Íåïîíðàâèëîñü. Äà è ïðåäñòàâü, åñëè â ïîìåùåíèè ñ äåñÿòîê äðóãîé ðåçîíàíñíûõ ÷àñòîò, è âñå èõ ïîëîñêàìè âûðåçàòú èç ìèêðîôîííîãî êàíàëà, èç ãîëîñà ýòè ÷àñòîòû òîæå óáåðóòñÿ. Ò.å åñëè ñïåòü ëåãàòî, òî â À×Õ áóäóò äûðêè, ïðîâàëû. Îíî êîíå÷íî íåêðèòè÷íî, íî çà÷åì, åñëè ìîæíî ïðîñòî âçÿòü ìèê, êîòîðûé íå öåïëÿåò ïîñòîðîííèå çâóêè. È â ñóììå äåøåâëå. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 27.10.2008 19:33 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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åñëè ñïåòü ëåãàòî - ãëèññàíäî, áëèí.
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 27.10.2008 21:00 |
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Ó ìåíÿ òîæå 58 Áåòà, îòëè÷íûé ìèêðîôîí... À çà÷åì îðàòü, íå ïîíèìàþ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 27.10.2008 21:46 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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Íó êàê çà÷åì îðàòü? Ðîê æû ïî¸ì. Äà è ëþáëþ ÿ ïîîðàòü. Åñëè ïî òåìå, òî îðàòü íà÷èíàåøü àâòîìàòè÷åñêè, êîãäà íå ñëûøèøü ñåáÿ èççà ãðîõîòà. À íåñëûøèøü, îòòãî, ÷òî ãýéí ïîñòàâëåí íèçêî. À ãýéí ïîñòàâëåí íèçêî îòòîãî, ÷òî åñëè åãî ïîäíÿòú, òî íà÷èíàåò ôèäáà÷èòü. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 28.10.2008 21:01 |
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Îòñòðîèòüñÿ íàäî, ïðåæäå ÷åì èãðàòü. Ñíà÷àëà áàðàáàíû, ïîòîì áàñ íàñòðîèòü ïîä áî÷êó, ÷òîáû îíà åãî íå çàáèâàëà è îí åå íå ïåðåêðûâàë. Ïîòîì ïîä íèõ íàñòðàèâàåòñÿ ðèòì ãèòàðà è êëàâèøíûå. Ïîñëåäíèì íàñòðàèâàåòñÿ ìèêðîôîí âîêàëèñòà è äóõîâûå (åñëè îíè åñòü, êîíå÷íî). Ýòî ñòàíäàðòíàÿ ñõåìà, êîòîðîé ìîæíî ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ â 90% ñëó÷àåâ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 28.10.2008 21:42 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>Ïîñëåäíèì íàñòðàèâàåòñÿ ìèêðîôîí âîêàëèñòà âî-âî. È ÷å äåëàòü, êîãäà åùå íå äîñòèãíóâ æåëàåìîãî óðîâíÿ îí íà÷èíàåò ñâèñòåòü? |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 28.10.2008 22:26 |
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À åñëè ìèêðîôîí íà÷èíàåò ñâèñòåòü, çíà÷èò îí çàâîäèòñÿ, è äåëî ýòî íå â ìèêðîôîíå, à â îêðóæàþùåé ñðåäå. Êðîìå òîãî èãðàåò íåìàëîâàæíóþ ðîëü êðèâèçíà ðóê çâóêîðåæà. Ïîýòîìó æåëàòåëüíî ðàñïîëîæèòüñÿ òàê, ÷òîáû ìåìáðàíà ìèêðîôîíà (ñ ó÷åòîì âñåõ ôàêòîðîâ ñàìîãî ìèêðîôîíà) áûëà îïòèìàëüíî íàñòðîåíà è íàïðàâëåíà íà ïîëó÷åíèÿ çâóêà òîëüêî è òîëüêî îò âîêàëèñòà. Âåäü åñëè ñâèñòèò, çíà÷èò èäåò îáðàòíàÿ ñâÿçü, íàñëîåíèå, ïðè÷åì ñ êàæäîé ñåêóíäîé âñå áîëåå ñèëüíîå, ïîòîìó ÷òî âîçíèêàåò öèêë êàñêàäà çâóêà, òàê è àïïàðàòóðó çàæàðèòü ìîæíî. Êñòàòè, îïòèìàëüíûé âàðèàíò äëÿ ìíîãèõ - àêóñòè÷åñêèå ðåïåòèöèè 
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 28.10.2008 23:01 |
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Ìîñêâà Ïðàéä ëüâèö è òóøêà àíòèëîïû
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>íåìàëîâàæíóþ ðîëü êðèâèçíà ðóê çâóêîðåæà âîò êñòàòè îáû÷íî íåìàëîâàæíóþ ðîëü èãðàåò êðèâèçíà ðóê ìóçûêàíòîâ, êîòîðûå â ïîñëåäñòâèè íàãîâàðèâàþò íà ðóêè çâóêîðåæèññ¸ðà... èç ãàâíà êîíôåòêó íå ñäåëàåøü, êàê ìèíèìóì ïàõíóòü áóäåò òàê æå...
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 28.10.2008 23:08 |
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>âîò êñòàòè îáû÷íî íåìàëîâàæíóþ ðîëü èãðàåò êðèâèçíà ðóê ìóçûêàíòîâ, êîòîðûå â ïîñëåäñòâèè íàãîâàðèâàþò íà ðóêè çâóêîðåæèññ¸ðà... èç ãàâíà êîíôåòêó íå ñäåëàåøü, êàê ìèíèìóì ïàõíóòü áóäåò òàê æå... ñîãëàñåí ñ ýòèì óòâåðæäåíèåì, íî æåëàòåëüíî èñõîäèòü èç èäåàëüíîé ñèòóàöèè, êîãäà ìóçûêàíòû ïåðåñòàëè åäèíîëè÷íè÷àòü è äðóæíî âçÿëèñü çà äåëî, òîãäà ïîñëåäíåå ñëîâî áóäåò ãîâîðèòü çâóêîðåæ. Áëèí, âîò æå ëþäè óäèâëÿþò, ìû óìóäðÿëèñü â êàìîðêå 4 íà 4 ìåòðà ñ êèëîâàòîì çâóêà ðåïåòèðîâàòü, è íè÷åãî íå çàïèðàëîñü, íå ñâèñòåëî íå ïåðäåëî. Òîëüêî ãîëîâû êâàäðàòíûå ñòàíîâèëèñü
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>À åñëè ìèêðîôîí íà÷èíàåò ñâèñòåòü, çíà÷èò îí çàâîäèòñÿ, è äåëî ýòî íå â ìèêðîôîíå, à â îêðóæàþùåé ñðåäå. äà, äà... à êàê òîãäà ñ îäíèì çàâîäèööà à ñ äðóãèì íåò? Òû ÷å íèáóäü ïðî äèàãðàììû íàïðàâëåííîñòè ìèêðîôîíîâ çíàåøü? Ïðî íàïðàâèòú-òî òû ïðàâèëüíî ãîâîðèøü. Òîëüêî íàïðàâèòü ìîæíî ìèêðîôîí, êîòîðûé èìååò íàïðàâëåííóþ äèàãðàììó íàïðàâëåííîñòè. Êóäà òû íàïðàâèøü þíèäèðåêøûíàë ìèê? òàê øòî äåëî â ìèêðîôîíå. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2008 15:05 |
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>Íó êàê çà÷åì îðàòü? >Ðîê æû ïî¸ì. Äà è ëþáëþ ÿ ïîîðàòü. >Åñëè ïî òåìå, òî îðàòü íà÷èíàåøü àâòîìàòè÷åñêè, êîãäà íå ñëûøèøü ñåáÿ èççà ãðîõîòà. À íåñëûøèøü, îòòãî, ÷òî ãýéí ïîñòàâëåí íèçêî. À ãýéí ïîñòàâëåí íèçêî îòòîãî, ÷òî åñëè åãî ïîäíÿòú, òî íà÷èíàåò ôèäáà÷èòü. Òÿæåëîå äåöòâî? ) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ãðîìêîñòü
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2008 16:56 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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ìàëü÷èê, òåáÿ êàê çîâóò? à? ìàëü÷èê, òû òîðìîç? Âàñÿ. |
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