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Çàäàòü íîâóþ òåìó
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õîòåëîñü áû óçíàòü êàêèå îíè áûâàþò è ãäå èõ ìîæíî êóïèòü
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>õîòåëîñü áû óçíàòü êàêèå îíè áûâàþò è ãäå èõ ìîæíî êóïèòü

â àïòåêó ïðèõîäèøü è ïîêóïàåøü.
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Òàëëèíí


Áûâàþò ðàçíûå. Ëè÷íî ÿ èñïîëüçóþ èç ïðîçðà÷íîãî ñèëèêîíà. Ïî êîíñèñòåíöèè îíè êàê ïëàñòèëèí. Ðàçðûâàåøü íà äâà êóñî÷êà, ñêàòûâàåøü - ÷ïîêñ è ãîòîâî. Äîñòîèíñòâî â òîì, ÷òî ÷åðåç íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ ïåðñòà¸øü èõ ÷óâñòâîâàòü, ïîòîìó ÷òî îíè ïðèíèìàþò íóæíóþ ôîðìó. Çâóêîèçîëÿöèÿ òîæå âåñüìà ïðèëè÷íàÿ. Íåäîñòàòîê - óøè "íå äûøàò".
Âîêàë äëÿ íà÷èíàþùèõ - vokalistu.blogspot.com
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► Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
► ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫

à çà÷åì îíè âîîáùå?
ÿ ñëåæó çà òîáîé :da:
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Ìîñêâà
Âåíñêèé Ñèìôîíè÷åñêèé, Êëàâà, Ñòðóíû, Ñâÿçêè ( òîæå Áðóíàí-Äæè)

>à çà÷åì îíè âîîáùå?


ñðàçó âèäíî íå áûë ÷åëîâåê â ìîñêîâñêèõ êëóáàõ ;-)
Ìàíèÿ âåëè÷èÿ, Ãàëþöèîíàöèè, Íåêîíòðîëèðóåìûå âñïûøêè ýìîöèé...
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Âðåìÿ: 04.11.2008 10:59 



Åñëè åñòü çàâÿçêè â ìåíòîâñêèõ òèðàõ, âîçüìè ó íèõ íàêëàäíûå áåðóøè - êàê íàóøíèêè âûãëÿäÿò. Åñëè íåò, ïîêóïàé â àïòåêå, òîëüêî â àïòåêàõ îíè, òàê ñêàçàòü, äëÿ âíóòðåííåãî ïðèìåíåíèÿ ;)
Ñêðó÷èâàåøü è â óøè çàñîâûâàåøü :)
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Âðåìÿ: 04.11.2008 11:07 
► Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
► ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫

>ñðàçó âèäíî íå áûë ÷åëîâåê â ìîñêîâñêèõ êëóáàõ
áûâàë. íî íå âûñòóïàë
ÿ ñëåæó çà òîáîé :da:
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Ìîñêâà
Âåíñêèé Ñèìôîíè÷åñêèé, Êëàâà, Ñòðóíû, Ñâÿçêè ( òîæå Áðóíàí-Äæè)

íó íèçíàþ êàê òû... à ÿ ïîòóñîâàëñÿ íåìàëî è çâóê â äåøîâûõ êëóáàõ îòñòîéíûé... óøè òîëüêî ÷åðåç ñóòêè ïðèõîäÿò â íîðìó... êàðî÷å ÿ åñëè èäó â êëóá òèïà Ïëàí Á èëè ðåëàêñ áåðóøè àáçàòåëüíà ñ ñîáîé áåðó ;-)
Ìàíèÿ âåëè÷èÿ, Ãàëþöèîíàöèè, Íåêîíòðîëèðóåìûå âñïûøêè ýìîöèé...
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► Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
► ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫

íó ïðîñòî ÷àñòî âûñîêèõ ìíîãîâàòî äàþò, ïî óøàì ðåæåò
ÿ ñëåæó çà òîáîé :da:
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Âðåìÿ: 05.11.2008 00:40 



âñåì ñïàñèáî. Â àïòåêå êóïèë)
à ñïåöèàëüíûå äëÿ ìóçûêàíòîâ ãäå ïðîäàþòñÿ ìîæåò êòî-íèáóäü çíàåò?
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Âðåìÿ: 05.11.2008 01:13 
Ìîñêâà
âîêàë, ôîðòåïèàíî, êîìïîçèöèÿ

Ëó÷øå âñåãî ñèëèêîíîâûå. À åù¸ ëó÷øå âîñêîâûå (íà ñåáå ïðîâåðåíî)! Òîæå ïðèíèìàþò ôîðìó óõà, íî â îòëè÷èå îò ñèëèêîíà äûøàò. Ìîæíî âîîáùå ñ íèìè â óøàõ æèòü. Òîëüêî èõ ó íàñ íå êóïèøü. Íàäî âåçòè èç Åâðîïû. À ñïåöèàëüíî â ìóçûêàëüíîì ìàãàçèíå ïîêóïàëà (êàê áû áåðóøè äëÿ ìóçûêàíòîâ àìåðèêàíñêèå), îêàçàëîñü äåðüìî èç êàêîé-òî íåïðèÿòíîé ñèíòåòèêè, ñêðèïÿò â óøàõ.
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Åñëè êòî áóäåò â Ïîëüøå, íàïðèìåð, òàì îíè íàçûâàþòñÿ ñòîïïåðû, áåðóøè òåðìèí ÷èñòî ñîâêîâûé.  àïòåêàõ ïî÷òè âñåãäà åñòü, íàäî ïðîñèòü âîñêîâûå ñòîïïåðû, - ýòî ñàìûå ëó÷øèå. Åñëè êòî ðÿäîì õðàïèò - òîæå ïîìîãàåò, èëè åñëè ïëîõî çàñûïàåòå, â ïîåçäå è ò.ä. :fan:
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âîêàë/áàðèòîí

>áåðóøè òåðìèí ÷èñòî ñîâêîâûé

óäèâèòåëüíî, äà? à òåáÿ íå ñìóùàåò, ÷òî òû ïèøåøü íà ÷èñòî ðóññêîì?
Âû ìíå ïèñàëè. Íå îòïèðàéòåñü...
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áåðóøè áåðóøè áåðóøè áåðóøè áåðóøè áåðóøè
Ìîÿ âîêàëüíàÿ äåìî íàðåçêà â ðàçíûõ ñòèëÿõ https://yadi.sk/d/JaQmgTi5acxEG
Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ"
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6 ðàç ìîãó :7:
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Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ"
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7 ñëîâ íå îòñûëàåòñÿ
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Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ"
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ÿ ïðîñòî â àêóå :7: :sm10: :7:
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Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ"
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âèíäó ñíåñ áåñïîëåçíî
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Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ"
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÷å äåëàòü éîáàíà :7:
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Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ"
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ìåäèòèðîâàòü! :idea2:
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âîêàë, ôîðòåïèàíî, êîìïîçèöèÿ

À äðóãèõ ñòðàííîñòåé íåò â ðàáîòå êîìïà? Ìîæåò âèðóñû?
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Âîêàë

luciano
À_åñëè âîò_òàêèì_ñïîñîáîì_ïèñàòü?
Èëè_äåëî_íå_â_ïðîáåëàõ??
Õîòÿ ýòî âñå ðàâíî òàêîé ïåíçäåö, ÷òî ïïö :7:
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âîêàë, ôîðòåïèàíî, êîìïîçèöèÿ

Ëó÷àíî, ïîïðîáóé çàéòè ñ äðóãîãî êîìïà. ß òàê ïîíÿëà, ðàç ñ ýòîãî íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ íè ãîñòåì, íè ñ äðóãèì íèêîì, çíà÷èò äåëî íå â ðàáîòå ôîðóìà.
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X-Dave íå ïîëó÷àåòñÎ :7:
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Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ"
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Âîêàë

:1_6:
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utta , ß ñíåñ âèíäó
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Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ"
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êóäà óæ áîëåå
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Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ"
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http://www.myspac...

Çàêàæè äðóçüÿì MacBookPro èç-çà ãðàíèöû, òàì ä¸øåâî, äîñòóïíî äëÿ ëþäåé è ðàáîòàé ñåáå áåç ïðîáëåì.
Æèçíü çàêëþ÷àåòñÿ íå â òîì, ÷òîáû æäàòü, êîãäà ïðîéäåò áóðÿ, à â òîì, ÷òîáû íàó÷èòüñÿ òàíöåâàòü ïîä äîæäåì è ñóìåòü ïîëó÷èòü îò ýòîãî ðàäîñòü!
ìåëîäèÿ ìîåé ëþáâè http://webfile.ru/4628914
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Âîêàë

Ýýýì
ß íå ïîìíþ, à ó òåáÿ òîëüêî ñ ýòèì ôîðóìîì òàêèå ïðîáëåìû, èëè åùå ÷òî?
Ìîæåò ïðîâàéäåðó ïîçâîíèòü?
È êàê îíè íå îòïðàâëÿþòñÿ?
×òî íà ýêðàíå ïðîèñõîäèò?
Îãðàíè÷åíû ëè ïîñëàíèÿ êîë-âîì ñèìâîëîâ?
Èëè êîë-âîì áèòîâ?
Èëè ëþáûõ îáúåêòîâ?
Òèïà ñêîëüêî ìîæåøü ñìàéëèêîâ èëè âñòàâëåííûõ êàðòèíîê îòïðàâëÿòü?
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Âîêàë

×òîá íå ñîâñåì íàãëûì áûòü, ñêàæó, ÷òî áåðóøè âåùü ïîëåçíàÿ, íî âòûêàòü èõ êàæäûé ðàç â óøè íàñòîëüêî ëåíü, ÷òî â èòîãå ÿ îò íèõ îòêàçàëñÿ :)
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âîêàë, ôîðòåïèàíî, êîìïîçèöèÿ

Ëó÷àíî, ñì.ëè÷êó!
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Ìîñêâà


áåðóøè â ñàìîëåòàõ äàâàëè, ñ òåõ ïîð îñòàëèñü... ñèëèêîíîâûå, ïðàâäà êèñëîòíî-æåëòûå, ÿ êàê ïðåäñòàâèëà êàê â íèõ áóäó íà êîíöåðòå ïîä óô ëàìïàìè... è ÷åãî òî â îáùåì ÿ èìè íå ïîëüçóþñü :pardon:
Äîáðûé äîêòîð Àéáîëèò çà êîìïüþòåðîì ñèäèò.
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òåñò òåñò òåñò òåñò òåñòòåñòòåñòòåñò òåñò
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âñåðàâíî íå èäåò
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Óøåë ñ ôîðóìà "âîêàëèñòîâ"
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6.
Seven Blows of the Dragon (Shui hu zhuan) AKA Water Margin (Sui ...
- [ Ïåðåâåñòè ýòó ñòðàíèöó ]
Fast Seven Blows of the Dragon (Shui hu zhuan) AKA Water Margin (Sui woo juen) subtitles can be directly accessed here. Show more Seven Blows of the Dragon ...
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7.
App Shopper: Shui Hu Zhuan (Outlaws of the Marsh) (Books)
- [ Ïåðåâåñòè ýòó ñòðàíèöó ]
iPhone and iPod touch app store listings, news, and price drops.
appshopper.com/books/shui-hu-zhuan-outlaws-of-the-marsh - 9k - Ñîõðàíåíî â êýøå - Ïîõîæèå ñòðàíèöû
8.
EMU-Russia - Áàçà èãð - Nintendo Entertainment System/Famicom ...
Áàçà èãð - Nintendo Entertainment System/Famicom/Dendy - Shui Hu Zhuan ... Êàðòèíêà èç Shui Hu Zhuan, Êèòàéñêàÿ ñòðàòåãè÷åñêàÿ èãðóøêà. ...
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9.

Suikoden (Shui Hu Zhuan)幻想水滸伝

的にビットレートをあげてうpしました。 ... Suikoden 幻想水滸 ...
14 ìèí.
www.dailymotion.com/video/x690bp_suikoden-shui-hu-zhuan_music
10.
Shui Hu Zhuan (Outlaws of the… | Ñêà÷àòü Shui Hu Zhuan (Outlaws of ...
iClassix, bringing classical literary works to your iPhone. Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland is a work of children’s literature by the English.
iphoneapptracker.ru/app/15963 - 14k - Ñîõðàíåíî â êýøå - Ïîõîæèå ñòðàíèöû

Âîçìîæíî, âû èñêàëè: Shuihu Zhuan
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à áÿëë âàîûë âàîëûã âðàûâàðîëðû âðà ûâðàîûâðîà ðûîâ ðàîðûâ àîûðøàãâùûãâ àãûøãàûâàðîâðîðû îðàûâðîà ûâîàðîûâàðîðûâîûâðàûî ðâîàð âðîðûâàøùãùûãà ûð âîàøûâãàûãøãûøàãøãû ãûøûãû ãâ øàãûø ãøûøûãâàøûø ûøãâàøûãø ãû ø àâãøû øûâãà øûãøûøã ãàéçùéøâ Ôëàëûâàë ûëûàî
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à áÿëë âàîûë âàîëûã âðàûâàðîëðû âðà ûâðàîûâðîà ðûîâ ðàîðûâ àîûðøàãâùûãâ àãûøãàûâàðîâðîðû îðàûâðîà ûâîàðîûâàðîðûâîûâðàûî ðâîàð âðîðûâàøùãùûãà ûð âîàøûâãàûãøãûøàãøãû ãûøûãû ãâ øàãûø ãøûøûãâàøûø ûøãâàøûãø ãû ø àâãøû øûâãà øûãøûøã ãàéçùéøâ Ôëàëûâàë ûëûàî
à áÿëë âàîûë âàîëûã âðàûâàðîëðû âðà ûâðàîûâðîà ðûîâ ðàîðûâ àîûðøàãâùûãâ àãûøãàûâàðîâðîðû îðàûâðîà ûâîàðîûâàðîðûâîûâðàûî ðâîàð âðîðûâàøùãùûãà ûð âîàøûâãàûãøãûøàãøãû ãûøûãû ãâ øàãûø ãøûøûãâàøûø ûøãâàøûãø ãû ø àâãøû øûâãà øûãøûøã ãàéçùéøâ Ôëàëûâàë ûëûàî
à áÿëë âàîûë âàîëûã âðàûâàðîëðû âðà ûâðàîûâðîà ðûîâ ðàîðûâ àîûðøàãâùûãâ àãûøãàûâàðîâðîðû îðàûâðîà ûâîàðîûâàðîðûâîûâðàûî ðâîàð âðîðûâàøùãùûãà ûð âîàøûâãàûãøãûøàãøãû ãûøûãû ãâ øàãûø ãøûøûãâàøûø ûøãâàøûãø ãû ø àâãøû øûâãà øûãøûøã ãàéçùéøâ Ôëàëûâàë ûëûàî
à áÿëë âàîûë âàîëûã âðàûâàðîëðû âðà ûâðàîûâðîà ðûîâ ðàîðûâ àîûðøàãâùûãâ àãûøãàûâàðîâðîðû îðàûâðîà ûâîàðîûâàðîðûâîûâðàûî ðâîàð âðîðûâàøùãùûãà ûð âîàøûâãàûãøãûøàãøãû ãûøûãû ãâ øàãûø ãøûøûãâàøûø ûøãâàøûãø ãû ø àâãøû øûâãà øûãøûøã ãàéçùéøâ Ôëàëûâàë ûëûàî
à áÿëë âàîûë âàîëûã âðàûâàðîëðû âðà ûâðàîûâðîà ðûîâ ðàîðûâ àîûðøàãâùûãâ àãûøãàûâàðîâðîðû îðàûâðîà ûâîàðîûâàðîðûâîûâðàûî ðâîàð âðîðûâàøùãùûãà ûð âîàøûâãàûãøãûøàãøãû ãûøûãû ãâ øàãûø ãøûøûãâàøûø ûøãâàøûãø ãû ø àâãøû øûâãà øûãøûøã ãàéçùéøâ Ôëàëûâàë ûëûàî
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