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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 17:00 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

>>Êîìïðåññèÿ ñîçäàåò âïå÷àòëåíèå áîëåå ðîâíîãî çâó÷àíèÿ, íå çàâèñèìî îò èãðû èñïîëíèòåëÿ, íî ïðè ýòîì äåëàåò çâóê âàòíûì, ÷òî îñîáåííî çàìåòíî íà ñåìïëàõ ñ ìàëîé äèíàìèêîé.<<

ëàìïû è êîìïðåñèÿ î÷åíü çàèíòåðåñîâàëî - åòî óæå PRO!
à ñåìïëàõ ñ ìàëîé äèíàìèêîé ñïåðâà íàäî `âëþáèòñÿ`! è èãðàòü íà òåæ¸ëîé-ðîÿëíîé 88 êë. òîãäà çâóê áóäåò íå âàòòíûé à òîèíñòâåííûé :) à ïî-åêñïðåñèâíåå çâóêè - êàê ñþðïðèç(ïîäàðîê óøàì)..ñëîâîì - åêñïðåñèâíûé çâóê âðîäå äåôèöèòíûé! ïîìîåìî åòî - ïðîôåñèîíàëíû ïîäõîä ê çâóêó. èíà÷å - çà÷åì íóæíû ìîëîòî÷íûå êë.!!!)
íî âñ¸ åòî ìîæíî áûñòðî-âóëüãàðíî óíè÷òîæèòü ñ ïîï`ôèëîñîôèåé`..
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 17:24 
1-9-9
... è Roland: 700SX, X7, A33, KC550.

2Gene
<Èãðàë ÿ íà Ðîëàíäå 700sx. Ïèàíèíî ñ 4ìÿ óðîâíÿìè äèíàìèêè...>
Âû ïîäçàáûëè. Âñåãî 5-òü óðîâíåé íà 700sx.
- Super Light
- Light
- Medium
- Heavy
- Super Heavy
:)
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 17:52 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

Roland RD 700SX - ñóïåð àïàðàò :icon14: - åñëè áûë íå äæîéñòèê à `ïè÷. è ìîä.` à åù¸ íå â êîíöå êë. à âûøå êëàâèø è âëåçëà â ôîðä-ïðîáå íà çàäíþþ ñèäåíü(êàê ôàòàð èëè PC88)âñ¸ áû ïðîäàë ïî äåøâêå .. :) è æåíèëñÿáû íà 700sx......
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 18:05 
1-9-9
... è Roland: 700SX, X7, A33, KC550.

:) Óõ, îïàñíàÿ ýòà êëàâà. Ìíå êðûøó ñîðâàëà îêîí÷àòåëüíî.
Äóìàþ, êàê áû âûïóòàòüñÿ. Âîò ïîäáèðàþ êóðö â ðåêîâîì èñïîëíåíèè.
À òóò òàêîå. Íó â ÷åì ñïàñåíèå?
:)
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 18:27 



À åùå ßìàõè íåïëîõî çâó÷àò ïî ÷àñòè ïèàíî.
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 18:30 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

ñïàñåíèè íåò! :crazy:
íåçíàþ ÷åâî íèõâàòàåò â 700ñõ(ïîëèôîíèÿ îãðîìíàÿ ïîëíûé êîìïëåêò çâóêîâ...) íî åñëè øòî ÌÅ-1 îäèí(ïåðâûé H1)áðàññ òî÷íî ïîðàäóåò íà ñâîáîäíîé çîíå(layer) ðîëàíäà :)
à ìîæåò è P;EP...
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 18:40 
1-9-9
... è Roland: 700SX, X7, A33, KC550.

Äà, ñïàñèáî, ÿ çíàþ. Ýòî ïåðâàÿ ëþáîâü. :) Äî ñèõ ïîð â óøàõ çâó÷èò.
:)
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 18:41 
1-9-9
... è Roland: 700SX, X7, A33, KC550.

ß ïðî ÿìàõó...
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 18:41 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

`Yamaha S-90ES` çâó÷èò!! 53ÌB new PIANO(3äèí.ñëîéíûé).
íî çâó÷èò ïîäðóãîìó ÷åì new kurzweil piano. åñëè êóðç - `old traditional steinway grand piano`, òî yamaha - contemporary-ìîäíûé îòëè÷íûé ñîâðåìåííûé çâóê.
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 18:51 



Ïðîäàéòå ñâîè ïèàíèíû è êóïèòå ñîíè ïëýéñòýéøí. Äà ïðåáóäåò ñ âàìè ÑÈËÀ!
:)
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 18:53 
1-9-9
... è Roland: 700SX, X7, A33, KC550.

Íó äà, òåõíîëîãèÿ Motif ES. Òóò ïðîäàâàë êòî-òî ðåêîâûé âàðèàíò. Åëå ñäåðæàëñÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 21:49 



äëÿ ñðàâíåíèé
http://www.playivorys.com/modules.php?name=Piano_compare
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 22:47 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

ñïàñèáî óâàæ. êàðë
íàêîíåö ïðèøëè ê Galaxy Steinway 5.1, EastWest Bosendorfer 290.
ïîêà ïðîñëóøàë òîëüî íàøè ðîäíûå PC2X;EXTREME;FANTOM,MOTIF...
fantom âïå÷àòëèë íî PC2X ïîêà ìíå äëÿ äóøè áëèæå.
íî åù¸ íåäîøåë ê ãëàâíîìó!!. ñïàñèáî..............
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 07.04.2007 17:35 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

ìíå ïî âêóñó:
1.William Coakley's Perfect Piano D359
2.Synthogy's Ivory Steinway
3.PianoTeq Modeled Piano(8MB!?)
4.Steinberg Grand 2
...
ðîëàíäû õîðîøèå..à extreme íèêàê íåâïèñûâàåòñÿ..motif - ïîñëåäíèé :)
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2007 11:02 
Ìîñêâà
Ýòíè÷åñêèå

Ìåíÿ Êàâàé ïðîïåð àöêî, ÷óìîâîå ïèàíî èìõî.
Æàëü, ÷òî íè÷åãî ëó÷øå íå ïðèäóìàíî äëÿ óäàëåííîãî çíàêîìñòâà è èíñòðóìåíòàìè è èõ ñðàâíåíèÿ
Äëÿ óäàëåííîãî-äà. À òàê ëó÷øå âñåãî íåïîñðåäñòâåííî îïðîáîâàòü èíñòðóìåíò â ìàãàçèíå èëè ó âëàäåëüöà. Õîòÿ äëÿ ïîëíîãî âïå÷àòëåíèÿ íàäî á åùå â ìèêñ âñòàâèòü è íà ðåïáàçå ïîèãðàòü ñ ãðóïïîé.
Íå, îí íå ÷èòàë
À äàâàé òû áóäåøü çà ñåáÿ ïèñàòü, îê?
Ìîæåò áûòü, ïîðà óæå ïèñàòü çà ñåáÿ, à íå çà àáñòðàêòíîå "ñîîáùåñòâî"?
Ýòî ïî÷åìó àáñòðàêòíîå??? Âïîëíå êîíêðåòíûå ëþäè îòïèñûâàëèñü, â ò÷ ñòîëü óâàæàåìûé âñåìè Ðîñòèê, Ðÿáöåâ, Êðîø è äðóãèå. ×òî êàñàåòñÿ ìåíÿ, òî ÿ ïîääåðæèâàþ ìíåíèå ýòîãî "àáñòðàêòíîãî" ñîîáùåñòâà.
À åùå ßìàõè íåïëîõî çâó÷àò ïî ÷àñòè ïèàíî
À êàêèå êîíêðåòíî ÿìàõè?
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2007 13:25 
Ðèãà
Korg TR-76, Karma

> Ìåíÿ Êàâàé ïðîïåð àöêî, ÷óìîâîå ïèàíî èìõî.

Âîò è ìåíÿ òîæå.
ß òóò ó íàñ â ãîðîäå çàâèñ â èõ ñàëîíå íà íåñêîëüêî ÷àñîâ.
Ãîä íàçàä. Äî ñèõ ïîð ïîä âïå÷àòëåíèåì.
Äàæå ýññå íàïèñàë.
Ñîáðàëñÿ â ïîåçäêó? Íàïèøè ñåáå http://www.SpisokVDorogu.ru
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2007 14:23 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

2Vive le Roland
Ìîñêâà

...
<Èãðàë ÿ íà Ðîëàíäå 700sx. Ïèàíèíî ñ 4ìÿ óðîâíÿìè äèíàìèêè...>
Âû ïîäçàáûëè. Âñåãî 5-òü óðîâíåé íà 700sx.
- Super Light
- Light
- Medium
- Heavy
- Super Heavy

...
ýòî-æå ïÿòü óðîâíåé êëàâåàòóðû, à ðàçãîâðð ø¸ë ïðî êîìáèíèðîâàííûõ ñëîÿõ PIANO-ñýìïëà(RD700SX new grand piano-4äèí.ñëîÿ).

íàïèñàë íå âòåìó,ïðîñòî äëÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêè ..
...
à åñëè â òåìó , -caìûé ñàìûé(GRAND PIANO) ïîêà `EastWest Bosendorfer 290`:
http://www.musicforums.ru/klavishnik/browse_thread.php?bn=mfor_klavishnik&thread=1175769121&cpag=2

èëè `Galaxy Steinway 5.1`:
http://www.soundsonline.com/Galaxy-Steinway-5.1-pr-BS-384.html
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2007 14:29 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

áëèí, âîò Áîñåíäîðôåð:
http://www.soundsonline.com/EASTWEST-PMI-Bosendorfer-290-pr-EW-157.html

èçâèíÿþñü...
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2007 16:46 
1-9-9
... è Roland: 700SX, X7, A33, KC550.

<à ðàçãîâðð ø¸ë ïðî êîìáèíèðîâàííûõ ñëîÿõ PIANO-ñýìïëà(RD700SX new grand piano-4äèí.ñëîÿ).>
ß äóìàë, äóìàë... :)
À ÷òî ýòî òàêîå: êîìáèíèðîâàííûé, ÷åòûðåõñëîéíûé, äèíàìè÷åñêèé ñýìïë?
Åñëè õîòèòå, òî ñîçäàéòå òåìó: "Âîïðîñû ïî RD 700 sx", îòâå÷ó íà âñå, åñëè ñìîãó, êîíå÷íî æå.
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2007 17:25 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

ê ïðèìåðó:
íà ìî¸ì StudioLogic-880(fatar) - 8(âîñåìü) äèí. óðîðîâíåé,
a PIANO-ñýìïë (Kurzwei ME-1) `triple strike` òð¸õ ñëîéíûé(ïî äèíàìèêè).
_
Roland RD700SX superrior grand - ÷åòûðåõñëîéíûé!!!à êëàâà êàê óæå ïèñàë - 5 ïÿòü äèí.óðîâíåé.
íàäî äîãîâîðèòñÿ î íàçâàíèÿõ - íî çòî íåñóäü áåñåäû..
:)
-
Synthogy's Ivory - 10 äèí.ñëî¸â(This is a German Steinway D sampled at 10 layers) ïîòîìó 12GB!!!
à new Roland superrior grand piano - 64MB. ME-1 åù¸ ìåíøå. Yamaha S-90SE new piano 53MB(òð¸õ ñëîéíûé).
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2007 18:05 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

ðàíøå PIANO-ñýìïë áûë îäíîñëîéíûé è ìîíî(òîëüêî ñòåðåî ïàíîðàìíûé) íàïð. ñòàðûé Kurzweil PS88.
ïîòîì - óæå ÷èñòî ñòåðåî(íàïð. Kurzweil K2600).
ïîòîì íà÷ëèñü äèí.ñëîÿ!!!+ñòåðåî(à ïî-ìîåìó K2500R purgatory creek - ÌÎÍÎ).
ïîòîì ïðèäóìàëè îòüäåëüíî ñýìïëèðîâàòü çâóê ïðè íàæàòèè ñóñòåéí ïåäàëà. è òä.. - ïðî îáåðòîíû åù¸ - íåóñâîèë.
-
íåêîòîðûå óäà÷íûå PIANO ñåìïëû - ñ íåáîëüøîé öûôðîâîé ïàìåòüþ!!!(ïàïð. PIANO TEQ.. èëè òîò-æå Kurzweil PC88=4MB!). - íåïîíåìàþ!?
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2007 21:17 



Óãó, ÿ åùå âèäåë âîëãà ìåðñåäåñ îáîãíàëà îäíàæäû! ;-)))
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2007 23:30 
Ìîñêâà
ñèíòåçàòîðû

> íåêîòîðûå óäà÷íûå PIANO ñåìïëû - ñ íåáîëüøîé öûôðîâîé ïàìåòüþ!!!(ïàïð. PIANO TEQ.. èëè òîò-æå Kurzweil PC88=4MB!). - íåïîíåìàþ!?

â Pianoteq íåò ñýìïëîâ
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2007 00:10 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

"â Pianoteq íåò ñýìïëîâ"

http://www.playivorys.com/modules.php?name=Piano_compare
à ÷òî ýòè 8MB îçíà÷àþò íà PianoTeq (Fourth generation modeling piano)?
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2007 10:32 
Ìîñêâà
ñèíòåçàòîðû

rollland, 8 ÌÁ íà äèñêå çàíèìàåò dll-ôàéë ïëàãèíà.
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2007 13:00 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

biko, ñïàñèáî
à ÷òî íà dll-ôàéë ïëàãèíå íàõîäèòñÿ? - çâóê ïèàíî?(ïðî VST ìàëî-÷åâî çíàþ..)
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 22.05.2007 10:49 
Ðÿçàíü
Nord, Moog, DSI

Ïîäîçðåâàþ, ÷òî ýìóëÿòîð ðàáîòû ïèàíî, íî íèêàê íå çâóê...
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 22.05.2007 10:53 
Ðÿçàíü
Nord, Moog, DSI

 ñìûñëå, PIANO TEQ, ïî õîäó - ìîäåëèðóþùàÿ ïðîãðàììêà... íî ëè÷íî ñ íåé íå çíàêîì(... ïóñòü biko ïîïðàâèò, åñëè ÷òî.

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 05.06.2007 15:09 
Ìîñêâà
Kronos Main stage

Êñòàòè, ðàç óæ çàøåë ðàçãîâîð î ïèàíàõ ßìàõè, íå ìîãó ìîë÷àòü:)


Yamaha s90, p90, p120, ìîòèôû (à, ïðåäïîëàãàþ, è îñòàëüíûå òîæå(?) èìåþò îäíó ÍÅÏÐÈßÒÍÅÉØÓÞ îîáåííîñòü (õîòÿ, íàäî ñêàçàòü, îíà ïðîÿâëÿåòñÿ â äîâîëüíî ðåäêîé ñèòóàöèè)

Ïîïðîáóéòå èãðàòü ðåïåòèöèè â íåáûñòðîì òåìïå, íà÷èíàÿ pp è òàê äî f.
 îïð. ìîìåíò áóäåò ñëûøíû ùåë÷êè (âåðîÿòíî ïðè çàìåíå ñåìïëîâ ðàçíîé äèíàìèêè) èëè õ.ç. îò÷åãî. Ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ âñåãäà. (Ðàçóìååòñÿ, ýòî íàäî ñëóøàòü íà õîðîøèõ ìîíèòîðíûõ íàóøíèêàõ, íèêàê íå íèæå fostex t7.)


Âîîáùå, åñëè àáñòðàãèðîâàòüñÿ, òî 88-ÿ êëàâà è çâóê ÿìàõ çàìå÷àòåëüíûé (åñëè áû íå ýòà íåïðèÿòíîñòü)

Íî ó òåõ æå kurzweil, roland íè÷åãî òàêîãî îòìå÷åíî íå áûëî.

Íå äîëæåí ñåáå ïîçâîëÿòü òàêîãî êëàññà ïðèîçâîäèòåëü êàê ÿìàõà, â èíñòðóìåíòàõ çà 2-3 Êèëîáàêñà òàêèå ëÿïû. íåõîðîøî.
life is cool
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 05.06.2007 16:08 
Ìîñêâà
ñèíòåçàòîðû

Ó ìåíÿ ñåé÷àñ Motif ES ñòîèò, íè÷åãî òàêîãî íå çàìå÷àþ.
Ìîæåò, ó ìåíÿ óøè çàñîðèëèñü èëè èãðàòü íå óìåþ. :-(
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 05.06.2007 16:15 
Ìîñêâà
Kronos Main stage

ýòî íàäî ñïåöèàëüíî ñëóøàòü.

îäíà èç ïðè÷èí, îòâåðíóâøèõ ìåíÿ îò s90 êàê îñíîâíîé 88-êëàâû.

õîòÿ, â ïðèíöèïå çâóêè îòëè÷íûå è êëàâèàòóðà íà 5+. ìîæåò âîçüìó â äîïîëíåíèå...
life is cool
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 05.06.2007 17:50 

Kurzweil PC4//Roland FP30//Kurzweil PC3 LE6

Èíòåðåñíî áóäåò ïîèãðàòü íà íîâîì MOTIF XS. Çâóê íà äåìêàõ, êîòîðûå ÿ ñëûøàë-ïðîñòî ïîòðÿñàþùèé.
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Òåìà: Re: K2500 Acoustic Piano - ÓÆÎÑ!
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2007 15:11 
Äîíåöê
Nord Electro 2 73, Korg MS2000

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io, www.keyptown.com
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