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ÏÐÅÄÈÑËÎÂÈÅ Àâòîðû ïåñíè - "Handsome Family", Brett and Rennie, íà çàïèñè "æèâîãî" âûñòóïëåíèÿ ðàññêàçûâàëè èñòîðèþ å¸ è îáúÿñíÿëè ñìûñë òàê: "..à åùå ìû áûëè â ïóñòûíå. Òàì åñòü ðàñòåíèå ñ ëèñòüÿìè-øèïàìè, è åñëè òû ïîäîéäåøü áëèçêî, îíî âûñòðåëèâàåò øèïîì. Åñëè îí ïîïàäåò òåáå â óõî, òî òû îñëåïíåøü. À åùå â ïóñòûíå åñòü êàêòóñ. Îí öâåòåò îäèí ðàç â òûñÿ÷ó ëåò. Íà åãî öâåòîê íåëüçÿ ñìîòðåòü, òîò, êòî öâåòîê óâèäèò, ñðàçó óìðåò. Âîò î ÷åì ýòà ïåñíÿ." ÄÎÁÀÂËÞ ÒÎËÜÊÎ ÎÒ ÑÅÁß - îäèí òåëåñåðèàë çà êðóòèçíó âûáðàë å¸ çàãëàâíîé ïåñíåé ñåðèàëà, è ñ òåõ ïîð å¸ çíàþò è ïîþò âñå. Íî äî ñèõ ïîð ãîâîðÿùèå íà ðóññêîì íå ïîäîçðåâàëè íàñêîëüêî êðóò å¸ òåñêò. Òåïåðü ÿ èñïðàâèë ýòó îøèáêó. -----------ÏÅÐÅÂÎÄ--------------- --1-- /ìóæñêîé ãîëîñ/ Òàì â ïûëè ïóñòûíè | òåíü öâåòêà ðàñò¸ò ïî øèïàì ñî÷èòñÿ | ÿäîâèòûé êðåîçîò âûòÿãèâàåò èãëû | íàâåðõ â ïàëÿùèé çíîé à åñëè ïðèêîñíåøüñÿ, | òå÷åò èç ðàíû ãíîé õîîî-õîéééé --2-- /æåíñêèé/ ïîä ëóíîé ðàñïóõøåé, | ïîä äóøíûé íåáîñâîä ñìîòðåòü ïðèøåë(øëà) ÿ ñ âåòðîì | êàê êàêòóñ çàöâåòåò /îáà/ È ñðåäè âèäåíèé çàïëÿñàâøèõ è òåíåé ÿ óïàë â òåðíèñòûé êóñò | ÷òî ðîñ ñðåäè êàìíåé õîî-ýééé --3-- /ì/ Æàð ÑÎËÍöà óòðîì ðàçâåðíåò | âñåõ ñïÿùèõ â êîëüöàõ çìåé /æ/ è íå îñòàâÿò ïóìû ñ ãîð | ñëåäà ìîèõ êîñòåé /îáà/ Âçëåòåëè â âå÷íîñòü ìû, | âíèçó ïóñòûíè ïîëîñà /æ/ èç âåòðà ìîè ðóêè, /ì/ èç çâåçä òâîè ãëàçà Õîî-ààà, õîî-àààà. --------------ÎÐÈÃÈÍÀË----------------- From the dusty mesa, her looming shadow grows Hidden in the branches of the poison creosote She twines her spines up slowly towards the boiling sun And when I touched her skin, my fingers ran with blood In the hushing dusk, under a swollen silver moon I came walking with the wind to watch the cactus bloom A strange hunger haunted me; the looming shadows danced I fell down to the thorny brush and felt a trembling hand When the last light warms the rocks and the rattlesnakes unfold Mountain cats will come to drag away your bones And rise with me forever across the silent sand And the stars will be your eyes and the wind will be my hands |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2017 21:39 |
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>Åñëè îí ïîïàäåò òåáå â óõî, >òî òû îñëåïíåøü. Êðóòî. À åñëè â íîãó ? >õîîî-õîéééé >õîî-ýééé >Õîî-ààà, õîî-àààà. Âîò ýòî ìîæíî îñòàâèòü, à îñòàëüíîå ëó÷øå ïåðåäåëàòü. |
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http://home.onego.ru/~bav9/index-mus.html http://www.musicforums.ru/lirics/userpost.php?bn=mfor_lirics&userid=lehavika&forum=mfor_lirics&dt=365&type=1 |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2017 21:53 |
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ne lyublyu imbecilov prihodyastchih v kommentarii sovsem ne lyublyu ne nravitsya - predlozhi svoj variant - no ty N_I_K_O_G_D_A ego ne predlozhish. Potomu chto prishel posrat v kommentariyah a ne pogovorit kak razumnyj chelovek |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2017 22:19 |
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bav9 , ÿ âîò âñåãäà çíàëà ÷òî òû íåäîáðûé | |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2017 22:29 |
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.. îí íå "íåäîáðûé" à ãëóïûé è ïîäðîñòêîâî-ýêñòðåìàëüíûé â ñâîèõ ðåàêöèÿõ Òîëüêî î÷åíü ãëóïûé ÷åëîâåê ïðèõîäèò ñàìîóòâåðæäàòüñÿ ñî ñëîâàìè "ó âàñ òóò âñå ãîâíî, âû âñå ãîâíî". ×åëîâåê óìíûé - äàæå åñëè åìó ÷òî-òî íå íðàâèòñÿ - èìååò äîñòàòî÷íî ìîçãà ÷òîáû ïîíÿòü ÷òî è ñóìåòü ïåðåäàòü ñâîå ïîíèìàíèå äðóãîìó. À ïðèøåäøèé ïåðâûé êîììåíòàòîð ïðîñòî ñ ïåðâûõ ñëîâ ïîñòàâèë ñåáÿ âíå ðàçãîâîðà. Íå îò óìà, îäíàêî |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2017 22:33 |
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>subharmonic äà ëàí òåáå...ïðîñòî òóò íàõðåí íèêîìó íå ñäàëèñü ïåðåâîäû-----ýòî òû õîòÿ áû ìîæåøü ïîíÿòü?// àõ äà------îðèãèíàë òàêîå æå ãîôôíî êàê ïåðåâîä) |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2017 22:40 |
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à ìíå ïîíðàâèëñÿ îðèãèíàë | |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
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>à ìíå ïîíðàâèëñÿ îðèãèíàë êàæäîìó ñâîå)) |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2017 22:51 |
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>çíàëà ÷òî òû íåäîáðûé Dobryi ja ! 8-) >ñî ñëîâàìè "ó âàñ òóò âñå ãîâíî, âû âñå ãîâíî". Èíòåðåñíî, êòî òàêîå òóò ñêàçàë ? Íàâåðíî ÷åé-òî òîï ñêðûëè óæ.. Ýõõ, íå ïðî÷èòàëë.. >íèêîìó íå ñäàëèñü ïåðåâîäû Òîëêîâûå ïåðåâîäû ìîãóò èìåòü ìåñòî áûòü. Íî êîãäà ïåðåâîä ïîõîæ íà "ðûáó" - êòî æ òàêîå ïåòü-òî áóäåò. ß òîæ â ñâî¸ âðåìÿ ïåðåâîäîì óâë¸êñÿ, íî ó ìåíÿ ñ íåãî óõõ.. êàê ïîëó÷èëîñÿ !  Òîêà ÿ íå ñ êàêîãî-òî òàì áóñóðìàíñêîãî, à ñ äðåâíåéøåãî ïèêòîãðàìñêîãî ïåðåâîäèë.  Âî - |
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http://home.onego.ru/~bav9/index-mus.html http://www.musicforums.ru/lirics/userpost.php?bn=mfor_lirics&userid=lehavika&forum=mfor_lirics&dt=365&type=1 |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2017 23:06 |
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Ïåðåâîäû ïåñåííûõ òåêñòîâ - âàùåòî äîâîëüíî ñëîæíîå çàíÿòèå. Â ðèòì, èñïîëüçóÿ ðóññêèå ñëîâà - òîëêîì íå ïîïàñòü, ñìûñë, íå çíàÿ âñåõ òîíêîñòåé ÿçûêà - íå óëîâèòü, ôîíåòèêó, íå ëîìàÿ ðèòì è ñìûñë - íå ñîáëþñòè.. Â èòîãå - ïðîùå, èñïîëüçóÿ îðèãèíàë êàê ðûáó, ïîëíîñòüþ ñâîé òåêñò íàïèñàòü. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
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àãà, íó íà ÷ëåíîðàçäåëüíîå âîçðàæåíèå ìîãó îòâåòèòü òàê: -à- ÿ ïîëîâèíó âçðîñëîé æèçíè ïðîæèë â àíãëîÿçû÷íîé ñòðàíå è ïî-àíãëèéñêè ÷èòàþ, ïèøó, áîëòàþ, ïîíèìàþ êàê îáðàçîâàííûé íîñèòåëü, ïðèìåðíî -á- àâòîðû ïåñíè íàïèñàëè å¸ "ïî ïðèêîëó", ÿñíîå äåëî, è èñòîðèÿ âíà÷àëå - íå âñåðü¸ç Êîãäà ïåñíþ âûáðàëè äëÿ òåëåñåðèàëà True Detective, òîæå ïûøóøåãî êðóòèçíîé íà ðîâíîì ìåñòå, îíà ïðîñëàâèëàñü -â- ëåãêî ïðîãîâîðèòü òåêñò è óâèäåòü, ÷òî îí ïîïàäàåò â ðèòì ïåñíè.  îðèãèíàëå íåò äàæå ðèôìû, êñòàòè: |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2017 23:44 |
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Íó äûê òîãäà äåëî õîçÿéñêîå. Åæåëü ïåñíÿ â ïåðåâîäå ïðîñëàâèòñÿ - íå çàáóäü ïîõâàñòàòüñÿ 8-) |
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http://home.onego.ru/~bav9/index-mus.html http://www.musicforums.ru/lirics/userpost.php?bn=mfor_lirics&userid=lehavika&forum=mfor_lirics&dt=365&type=1 |
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Òåìà: ÂÅÐÑÈß ÄÂÀ, åùå ëó÷øå
Âðåìÿ: 14.04.2017 11:08 |
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.. â îðèãèíàëå àâòîðû íåâíÿòíû â ñìûñëàõ è àáñòðàêòíû â ñëîâàõ (è ëèøü ðàññêàç íà êîíöåðòå äàåò ïîíÿòü î ÷åì áåëèáåðäà òåêñòà áûëà íàïèñàíà)  ýòîì âàðèàíòå ÿ âëîæèë èñòîðèþ â òåêñò ïåñíè: ------------------- --1-- /ìóæñêîé ãîëîñ/ Ïîñðåäè ïóñòûíè | êóñò â ïûëè ðàñòåò ïî øèïàì ñî÷èòñÿ | ÿäîâèòûé êðåîçîò âûòÿãèâàåò èãëû | íàâåðõ â ïàëÿùèé çíîé à åñëè ïðèêîñíåøüñÿ, | òå÷åò èç ðàíû ãíîé îîî-õîéééé --2-- /æåíñêèé/ ïîä ëóíîé ðàñïóõøåé, | /ì/ ïîä çàêàòíûé íåáîñâîä /æ/ ìû ïðèøëè ñìîòðåòü êàê êàêòóñ | ðàç â ñòî ëåò öâåòåò /îáà/ Íî ñòðàííûå âèäåíüÿ ñðåäè ïëÿøóùèõ òåíåé ïðîíåñëèñü | è ÿ óïàë | íà êóñò ñðåäè êàìíåé õîî-õýééé --3-- /ì/ Æàð ñ`îëíöà óòðîì ðàçâåðíåò | âñåõ ñïÿùèõ â êîëüöàõ çìåé /æ/ è íå îñòàâÿò ïóìû ñ ãîð | ñëåäà ìîèõ êîñòåé /îáà/ íàä âå÷íîñòüþ ïóñòûíè íàñ äóõ öâåòêà âîçí¸ñ èç âåòðà ìîè ðóêè, òâîè ãëàçà èç çâ¸çä îî-õîîî |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
Âðåìÿ: 14.04.2017 19:47 |
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Âî, óæå áîëüøå ïîõîæå íà ïåñíþ. >è ÿ óïàë | íà êóñò ñðåäè êàìíåé Òóò ëó÷øå ïåðåìåíÿòü íà "â êóñòû..", áîëåå ïîïðàâèëüíîìó áóäåò. |
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http://home.onego.ru/~bav9/index-mus.html http://www.musicforums.ru/lirics/userpost.php?bn=mfor_lirics&userid=lehavika&forum=mfor_lirics&dt=365&type=1 |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
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>Íî äî ñèõ ïîð ãîâîðÿùèå íà ðóññêîì íå ïîäîçðåâàëè >íàñêîëüêî êðóò å¸ òåñêò. Òåïåðü ÿ èñïðàâèë ýòó îøèáêó. Ðóññêèå íå ïîäîçðåâàëè íàñêîëüêî êðóò ýòîò òåêñò, ïîòîìó ÷òî îíè ÷èòàëè, íàïðèìåð, ýòî:  ïóñòûíå ÷àõëîé è ñêóïîé, Íà ïî÷âå, çíîåì ðàñêàëåííîé, Àí÷àð, êàê ãðîçíûé ÷àñîâîé, Ñòîèò — îäèí âî âñåé âñåëåííîé. Ïðèðîäà æàæäóùèõ ñòåïåé Åãî â äåíü ãíåâà ïîðîäèëà È çåëåíü ìåðòâóþ âåòâåé È êîðíè ÿäîì íàïîèëà. ßä êàïëåò ñêâîçü åãî êîðó, Ê ïîëóäíþ ðàñòîïÿñü îò çíîþ, È çàñòûâàåò ââå÷åðó Ãóñòîé ïðîçðà÷íîþ ñìîëîþ. Ê íåìó è ïòèöà íå ëåòèò È òèãð íåéäåò — ëèøü âèõîðü ÷åðíûé Íà äðåâî ñìåðòè íàáåæèò È ì÷èòñÿ ïðî÷ü, óæå òëåòâîðíûé. È åñëè òó÷à îðîñèò, Áëóæäàÿ, ëèñò åãî äðåìó÷èé, Ñ åãî âåòâåé, óæ ÿäîâèò, Ñòåêàåò äîæäü â ïåñîê ãîðþ÷èé. Íî ÷åëîâåêà ÷åëîâåê Ïîñëàë ê àí÷àðó âëàñòíûì âçãëÿäîì: È òîò ïîñëóøíî â ïóòü ïîòåê È ê óòðó âîçâðàòèëñÿ ñ ÿäîì. Ïðèíåñ îí ñìåðòíóþ ñìîëó Äà âåòâü ñ óâÿäøèìè ëèñòàìè, È ïîò ïî áëåäíîìó ÷åëó Ñòðóèëñÿ õëàäíûìè ðó÷üÿìè; Ïðèíåñ — è îñëàáåë è ëåã Ïîä ñâîäîì øàëàøà íà ëûêè, È óìåð áåäíûé ðàá ó íîã Íåïîáåäèìîãî âëàäûêè. À êíÿçü òåì ÿäîì íàïèòàë Ñâîè ïîñëóøëèâûå ñòðåëû È ñ íèìè ãèáåëü ðàçîñëàë Ê ñîñåäàì â ÷óæäûå ïðåäåëû. |
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Òåìà: Re: Far from any road (ïåðåâîä, Handsome Family)
Âðåìÿ: 14.04.2017 21:32 |
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"Ðóññêèå íå ïîäîçðåâàëè íàñêîëüêî êðóò ýòîò òåêñò, ..." Sorry, ÿ çàáûë íàðèñîâàòü [èðîíèÿ] âîêðóã ìîåãî ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ ïåñíè[/èðîíèÿ] Ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî îòòÿíóëèñü è àâòîðû, è íå ìåíåå - òå, êòî âûáðàë ïåñíþ äëÿ ñåðèàëà "íàñòîÿùèé äåòåêòèâ" (True Detective), îí âåñü áåññìûññëåííûé, íî î÷åíü êðóòîé â êàæäîé ñöåíå è ðåïëèêå Íó à åñëè â Ðîññèè óäàåòñÿ íàìàçàòü òðåòèé ñëîé èðîíèè íà áóòåðáðîò, òî ýòî íàì òîëüêî â ïëþñ, ïðàâäà? |
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